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messence of 4jie 


E. V. R. 

rn : 17-9 -1878 
ad ; 24-12-1973 

9 A September, 1978. a Single Copy 80 P A Annual Subscription Ks. 9 

pjfijman was ibe Fiist Sly Brgueihat met the Fust fool — Vcltaiw 





1 isb I had said it/' These word* 
of Oscar WjMc came into my mind as I 
read Mr. R. Lakshminarayanan's aptly tilled 
article "Achillei* iieet of the Rationalist'" 

i ive no hesitation to describe it ai 
one of the lioest articles that have appeared 
in I RETHOUGHT and can agree with 
him 100% He has touched upon a serious 
shortcom ; ngv Perhaps the only one) of brilliant 
intellectuals like Dr. A T. Kovoor and others 
who for this reason are looked upon by the 
leftists in (his country with sceptic reser- 

long study of marxism and ration- 
alism has convinced me that without 
marxism, rationalism can only add up to 
y a mental exercise and arm-chair 
chit - chat. •_ 

Well said. Mr. R.JC. You have spoken 
for many. 

■Nelson Gomez, Cochin 


The readers owe a debt of gratitude 
he publication of the thought provo- 
articleAc'ii'les" Heel of the Rationalist. 
it exposed the Inherent weakness-lack of 
scientific analysis of the society-of many 
popular rationalist They believe that 
nalhm can flourish divorced from Mar- 
Does it not tantamount to superstl- 
r .? Don't we see that atheism reigns 
supreme in socialist countries while the 
lalist movements bereft of socialistic 
v register one step forward and two 

Rationalism minus marxism is but 
talfst nihilism. I do not know why the 
--rationalists close their eyes to the 
fact that is nourished by capital- 

ism and thai indi ectTy feed ihe 

m by Ignoring the signilicant role, 
c militant tn 

I once again (hank you for having 
published the article which is eye-opener 
for many 

- A.Sivalingam, Tiruchlrapaili 



ider of 

I : m a regular buyer and rea 
FREETHOUGHT. It influenced me a lot. 
The cartoon on the cover page of July 
78 issue is marvellous. 

-T.S. Sr#enivasa Rao, Kaklnada 



in the July issue |. 


"Sisyphus " published in the July 
of FREE-THOUGHT is not mint, but j s 
printed in such a way that it looks as if 
I am the author. I had only sent a copy of 
it on a separate sheet of p^pcr without 
my name or signature 

I request you to be good enough to 
publish a note In the very next issue of 
FREETHOUGHT and save me from the 
blame of plagirising. 

— Q. K. Nettar, Maagalore 
(The arror ii very much regretted -Editor) 


I am very glad to know that th 
Rationalist Endowment Fund has been 
launched. I hope there will be a good 
response from Rationalists from all over 
India. I am sure the fund will give the 
IRA a sense of financial stability however 
modest the amount of the fund may be. i 
It will grow steadily a? time passes. 

I am glad to see the improvement In *, 
the printing of the July issue or \ 
FREETHOUGHT. I think it is v«ry - , 
important to further improve the printing 
of the journal and use a little better 
quality paper even if it co^ts a little more 
money. It is important for the impression 
it makes and the image of the movement 
abroad and In India. 

A. SoJomon Brussels iBelaium) 



'Periyau is not merely a person, but a 
phenomenon' ... C N. Annadurai 

Vol. VIII September, 1978 

No 9 



Editorial 259 
The Vacuum Argument - Myth, 
Mystery or Fact? 

-P-K. Narayanan 161 

God check mated 263 

Possession by spirits 271 of Caste system in Society S. L. Bnarathi 275 
Hypn sis and Its 

Possibilities - N.K. Sabapathy 278 

News and Notes 279 

Readers' Forum 282 

Bojk Review 284 

Test for Reison 2W 

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A giant among rationalists and the 
most forceful and effective among them 
all. Pcriyar E. V. Ramaswamy was ('escribed 
by Mr. K. M. Balasubramaniam thus: 

"Socratic In his hatred of superstition. 
Shavian In his crusade against shams. 
Voltalrean in his vendetta against the 
vindictive, Tolstoyan in his touching rural 
simplicity? and Jinaayan in his subtle grcatn- 

That a lowering Perlyar had to stride 
the length and breadth of South India, 
particularly Ta-nil Nadu, for nearly half 
a century typifies the magnitude and 
importance of his mission. Ho at once 
signified anti-brahmlnism. danger of cas- 
teism and Irrelevance of religion and goc"* 
Instead of ignoring or ridiculing Pesiyar. 
If the leaders had implemented his pro- 
grammes seriously, we would not witness 
today atrocities agains' Harijjns" incidents 
such as in Villupuram. communal tension 
and resurgence of Brahminism. In fact, 
if the Indian National Congress had liste- 
ned to him' the party vould not h%\e 
passed into the hands of reactionary 
opportunist politicians. A social revolu- 
tion would have been ushered In and the 
nation would bo reaping the benefits of 
20th century progress. 

In his own inimitable forthright man- 
ner, he used to tell the so-called intellectual 
was proverbial and he knew ihe educated 
hyprocrltcs every piogressivo move of the 


piano and the soul the musician who 
extracts from bis piano any melodies he 
liked. They have divided their being into 
two hikes. "The siuful Body and the 
immortal Soul." For them tbe;efore, 
knowledge of the eternal Soul wafl 
pernicious ! Any attempt to understand 
the subject was forbidden ! 

These were tha results of dualism in 
the field of Natural science. For years, 
human mind was a prisoner of idealism 
and to the idealists the mind was 
mysterious. Mysterious mind should not 
be disclosed to Natural Science They 
therefore, accommodated it as an unkno- 
wable precious mvstery. 

This stage formed a great retar- 
ding force in the study of human mind 
and intelligtncc. It blocked the way of 
truth In Natural Science. Neurologists of 
the past were mostly under the influence 
of this mystic cloud which prevent them 
from handling the problem of mind in 
reil objective spirit. History of Sciences 
of even the 19th and 20ih centuries is 
Missing field of psychology. 

Lack of objectivism and empirical evalu- 
tion led these Scientists to| formulate a halo 
of romantic hypothesis about mind, soul 
and god. They degraded into a stage no 
better th-.n that of religious men of delusions 


How beautiful are the early morning 
hours : The sun has not yet appeared, 
the eastern horizon is red and purple ; 
the sky above wears enchanting colours 
Tree tops peep Into the farfiung morning 
glow: Birds hidden In the thick leaves, 
sittiug on the twigs cry out at their throats 
length, nay sing tlKir beautiful songs. 

How superb, how enchanting, ..refreshing 
refreshing and enlivening scenario. Indeed I 


Supdosing an Idealist attributing all these 
to the glory of the God Almighty He 
declares non chalantly. " The birds arc 
praying to the God. They are praisiog th c 
glory of Almighty!" 

Goodness < What proof is there that 
the birds are praying to the Ood? That 
they t are praising the glory of the Almighty? 
In this pretty glittering morning hours 

What proof |s there that the birds 
are aware of a God, a creation of man? 

No proof absolujely. That is exactly 
what the Idealists do not need at all 

They are guided by their faith, their 
beliefs In non-existent things and pow;»s. 
Objectivism is foreign* to their intellect 
Their senses are in the misty shadow of 
rocklike subjectvism. They can't visualise 
anything beyond thc subjective Images 
already established by their faith and 
pursuits They are simply helpless. 

After resting peacefully over thc night, 
the birds wake up with full of energy 
and vigour. They are ready to go for 
another day's battle, battle for food, fo r 
satisfying the procreational urges. When 
dawu approaches, they cry out. jumping 
ram twigs* getting ready for the day 
The colleciiveness in their choral singing 
enthuses as stimulus Their conditioned 
bebavioui foi generations has formed a 
sort of, instinctive (i e. an unconditioned 
reflex, about which more details are given 
in thc chapters to follow) habit ia themj 
to wake up at a particular time to move 
about and to cry till the light of the day 
spreads clearly and evenly everwhere. It 
is vital for their safety, aod success. 
It is not a question of God. created by 
man. It is a question of existence and 
adaptability in the material world which 
is very much here on this Earth. 

(tobecont. in next Issue) 




f*. JCarnaih and -ft. CJunianarmtjanan 


Most bclleveri believe thai an unbeliever's disbelief is also a blind belief just like 
their own belief. For, moat believers would not have met any un-believer forthesimpls 
reason that the latter are so few- On the other har.d an un-believer daily meets scores 
of believers since he lives in the society of believers. That is bow a Rationalist knows 
the line of thinking of the believers and their weak points, but a believer hardly 
knows the logic of a Rationalist. 

You may be amazed that we are trying to question the very existence of 
God Arc you afraid of being a party to it? Do you think that even to suspect 
the existence of god is a Sin t Even taking for granted God exists, as com- 
pared with other antl-rellglous. anti-social, un-ethical and un-lawful atrocities like 
cheating, bribing, gambling, smuggling, black-marketing, lying, raping, etc., thinking 
h not a sin. In fact it Is a virtue. 

The theists can ba broadly classified Into two categorlcs-the tirst Is the priestly 
class and the other (la their followers. The former would have already gone into 
details of theology and unless their minds are completely closed and they lost their 
entire thinking faculties, a majority of them would be knowing at least in their 
heart of hearts the fallacies in their beliefs and preachings. For professional and other 
reasons they have however to maintain their beliefs. This cotegory is incorrigible. 

The second category consists of innocent people who are led to entertain all sorts 
of blind beliefs- Given an opportunity they are prepared to resort to introspection and 
retrospection and stand corrected, if necessary. While the professional} believers as well 
a» the confirmed Rationalists are far and few between, these un-commitlcd people 
form more than 90% cf the populatioo. They however appear to be committed to 
some religion or other and some cult or other because of the psychological aod 
physical proximity to the particular cult. They are not exposed to the other 
Religions or schools of thought. Once he Is given an opportunity of being exposed 
to the Rationatists. spate of questions, he would realize that none of his beliefs can 
stand the test of science, logic, reason or even commonsense. The Rationalist jj 
capable of questioning anything - even If it is accepted by millions of people and 
even If It is beiived for thousands of years. 

SEPTEMBER 1971 263 

Though there are hundreds and thousands of questions, if all (he questions have 
to be listed we need huge volumes. We have therefore restricted them to less lhan 1 :0 
mere impor ant questions which occur to many a Rationalist but to very few believers. 
The purpose of this questionnaire is mainly to arouse thinking among the believers. 
Though it is hoped that many believers, would immediately after reading this 
questionnaire, would be convinced of the tenets of rationalism, even if they start 
thinking or rethinking on the subject of God. the purpose of this questionnaire 
will have been achieved. 

Though the discussions and debates between believers and rationalists arc going 
on for centuries, the oral discussions between the two-groups tend to go off the 
track resulting in dead-locks and stalemates. So this queitionnairc will help both the 
groups to discuss various relevant issues in a methodical and logical sequence. 

Briefly, the following would be the shortcomings of oral dlscuslons 

1. The number of rationalists is negligible as compared with the believers 

2. Want of leisure time which would be convenient to both 

3. The more aggressive man tends to suppress the weaker man though the 
latter has stronger points, 

4. The older person, or a person in a better status stands at an advantage. 

5. The person who loses an argument feels insulted. 

6. It is difficult to stick to a track and proceed in a sequence. 

7. The presence of mind of th« persons arguing would be limited 

8. The two persons would be using different terms in different senses. 

9. The contradictions in one's arguments cannot be apparent. 

10. There would be no record of discussions and results, if any. 

Some questions as also some of the suggested answers may appear to be 
sarcastic and satirical, but they are not meant to hurt the feelings of anyone. 
Since the questionnaire is intended for different peopll of different standards, al 
possible answers have been suggested. So is the case with such questions. 

To sum up this questionnaire has been prepared to make people think and 
get convinced of the principles of rationalism and not to ridicule the believers. 

As this is an unique attempt, there is lot of scop for further improving this 
questionnaire in the subsequent editions. Suggestions in this regard are therefore 
invited from Rationalist Sympathisers. 



Please note the following points carefully before you proceed to 
answer the questions 

1. This exercise Is not necessary for you, 
if you are not a believer. If you arc a ration- 
alist, you may however use this question- 
naire for nne of your believer friends to 
bring out the fallacies In their argumetns. 
Even if you are a believer but admit that 
your belief in god is only a blind faith 
or you feel god is inexplicable you need 
not care to fill it up. This questionnaire 
Is Intended only for those who go all out 
in defeas* of god. 

2 If you art a believer, try to answer 
all the questions seriatim, just by ticking 
the appropprlate suggested answers and 
striking off whatever is not applicable. 
You may tick two or more answers also 
as long as they are not contradictory to 
each other. Where no answers are sug- 
gested you may write down the answers 
as briefly as possible and as unambiguously 
as possible. 

3 While answering subsqucnt questions, 
if you so desiie you may come back to 
any or more of the earlier questions and 
change your answers any number of times. 
We therefore suggest that you may use a 
pencil and an eraser- 

4 You have to however complete answer- 
ing all the questions, ensuring that your 

own answers are not contradictory to each 

5. There is no time limit for complctting 
the questionnaire. You may take even a 
year or two but our only request Is that 
till such time that you arc able to answer 
these simple questions please do not try 
to argue in defence of god. 

6. For answering these questions you 
are welcome to refer any books of any 
religion and consult any number of your 
friends including your high priests. 

7 If you finally give up your attempt, 
you are then one of us. You can help 
your other friends to see the light. 

8 You need not feel ashamed even if 
you are unable to answer this question- 
naire. No one could do It so far. 

9- Most of the present day rationalists 
were all believers in yester-years. There 
Is therefore nothing wrong in today's 
believers becoming to-morrow's rationalists 
What we expect is that every one must 
think, think and think and then act. 

10 The first person who answers All the 
questions without Any Contrcdfctions or 
vague, ambignous or irrelevant replies will de 
givena reward of Rs. 1000/- 





Do you believe god exists t 

(a) Y« 

(b) No 'c) Not sure 

(If yes, proceed further) 

1 • 2 . 1. 

Do you think your belief In god stands 
lo reason ? 

(If yes, proceed further) 

(a) Yes 

(b) No (c) Not sure 


In your opinion, what exactly is maant 

(a) Allah 

(m) Mother 

by the word god ? 

_(b) Brahmah (n) Nature 

(c) Christ 

(o) Om 

(d) Duty 

(pt Perfection 

(e) Energy 

(qt Queen 

(f) Fire 

(r) Righteousness 

(g) Goodness Sound 

(h) Humanltarl- (t; Truth 

anlsm fu) Uilverse 

(I) Idols (v) Life 

(j) Justice (w) Light 

(k) Knowledge (\ ■ People 
(1) Love (y) Atom 

(z) " Super human being worshipped 
as having power ,vcr nature and 
human fortunes". (Dictionary 

f If your iinswer is from d to y no one denies the existence of the same and 
you are as good (or as bad !) as a Rationalist and the queitionnnatre is not 
for you. Only if your answer is a, b, c, or / proceed further sticking 
to the same meanings. 



you think that god is 







1 .4. S. 


1 . 5 . 1. How many gods are there ? 

(a) Yet 

(b) No 

(a) Yea 

(b) No 

(a) Yes 

{b) No 

(a; Yes 

(b) No 

(a) Y«s 

(b) No 

(a) One 

(b) Two 

<c) Three 

(d) Thrae crorci 



(If your answer it two or more gods 
the questionnaire may 'be construed 
as reference to two or more gods) 

1.4.1. Where does god exist ? 

1 , 4 2 If (a ) to question 1.6.1 where exactly 

does he exist 1 
I . 4 3. If (b) to question 1-4.1 where exactly 

does he exist ? 
1.4.4 If (c)to question 1.6.1 where does he 


1.7.1. If go* exists In all Men what exactly is 
meant by ' Incarnation ' 7 

1.7.1. Why should the prophets be held In 
great esteem ? 

1 . ? . 3. How arc the " High priests w superior 
to ordinary people * 

1 . t . 1. Whether god had a beginning t 

1.8.2. If yes, when was he born t 

1.8.3. Why was he born ? 

1.8.4. How was ha born ? 

1.9.1. If god preceded the Universe where 
was bo before the Universe came Into 
being 7 

1 . 9.1. If the Universe preceded god, where 
from did he come into the Universe f 

(a) Somewhere within the Universe 

(b) Outside the Universe 

(c) All pervading 

(d) Heaven 

(a) Banaras (b) Mecca (c) Roma 
(d) Moon (•) Sun (0 — 

(a) In all men 

(b) In all living creatures 

(cj in all living and non-living thlnga 
Including air and space 

(a) they are more knowledge able 

(b) they are pious 

(c) they have supernatural powers 

(d) they conquer death 

(e) they do not feel hungry 

(f) they observe celibacy 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a) Before creation of Universo 

;b) Along with the Universe 

(c) After the creation of the Universe 

(a) To save human beings 

(b) To save all creatures 
(c> Just for fun (Leela) 

(a) He was created by himself 

(b) Created by man 



1 . 10 . 1. Do you think god has a form ? 
I . 10 . 2, If yes what sort of form ? 

1 . 10 . 3. What woula be the size of the form ? 

1.10.4. What is the sex of god f 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a) Human form 

fb) animal form 

(a) Bigger than Universe 

(b) Smaller than Universe 

fc) Equal to the size of universe 
(d) Something like an idol 

(a) Male 

(c) hermaphrodite 

(b) Fen, ale 
(d) Neuter 

1.11.1. Do you think that these forms are 

capable of btlng changed 
from time to time f 

1.11.2. from place to place f 

1 . 11 . 1. from rallgioi to religion ? 

Ca) Yei 

lb) No 

(a) Y« 

<b) No 

(a) Yaa 

<b; Ne> 

1 . it . ]. What do you think of the pawers of 
tha god with a form ? 

i , 12 . 2- Do you think that Its powers would 
be more intensive at places closa to 
the form ? 

1 , 12 . 3. Can the form recognise the people 
approaching it ? 

1.12-4. Does it have more love or affection 
for the people praying? 

(b; Yai (b) No 

(a) Yes 

(a) Yes 

(b) No 

(b) No 

1 . 13 . 1. How did you coma to believe god 

(a) Because majority believe in it 

(b) My elders told me 

(c) I learnt from religious scripture; 

(d) I saw him in temples 

(e) I got an enlightenment 

1. 14.1. After answering all the above ques- 
tions do you still think your belief 
io God stands to reason? 

(If yes, proceed to the next section) 

(a) Yes (b< No 




2.1 . 1. Do you practise idol worship ? 

Of 'yes.* proceed further and if no 
straightaway go to ihe next section) 

2.2-2. What is the object of idol worship ? 



2 .5.1 


, 5 

. 2. 




2 . 




, * 



, 7 

. 1. 




2 . % . 2. 

Is idol worship necessary for man alone? 
If so, how are other animals, birds and 
other creatures able to seek god's help ? 

Did you ever find any material benefits 
derived because of prayers alone and without 
self-effort or sheer chance? 

Di« the idols in the temples derive powers 
from devotees* concentration ? 
If so. cm we make use of that power ? 
Ifweuscit will it not get exhausted ? 

Are the idols in places like Benaras, Thiru- 
mala. Rome having more powers ? 
Do you go to pilgrim centres ? 

Do you think god knows only some 
languages t 

Do you require a priest to plead your case 
to god ? 

Do >ou go to priests, Clergymen etc.? 
Do you think your priest will be getting 
more benefits than you from god since he 
is nearer or dearer to god ? 
Do you think Idol worship is only the first 
step to realize god ? 
Do you alio belong to the same group f 

How should god be worshipped ? 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a) Material happiness in this 

(b) Spiritual happiness lo this 

(c) Mental peace 

(d) Occult powers can be attained 

(at Yes (b) No 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a) Yes- (b> N» 

(a) Yes 
(a) Yes 

(a) Yes 

(b) No 
(b) No 

(b) No 

(a) Yes 
(a) Yes 

(b) No 
(b) No 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a; Yes 
(a J Yes 

(b) No 
(b) No 

(a) Yes <b) No 

(a) Yes <b) No 

(a) As stipulated in scriptures 

(b) As per the current practices 

(c) Ai per the directives of priest 

(d) As per one's own wishes 



1 , 10 . I. If you pray to god for your mental peace or 
to show your gratitude why should you not 
pray at noma instead of going to temple, etc 

2.11. I, Why do you offer food (prasadam) to god ? 



2. U • 6. 


2. 12. 1. 

2. U. 2. 




13. |. 


13 .2. 


13 3. 

2 . 

14 . 1. 

2 .15. 1. 
1. 15 .1 

Do you tblnk god expects gratitude t 
Do you think god likes to be praised ? 
Do you think the food offered to god and 
ordinary food have difference in value f 
Id your opinion in what way will eating 
prasadam help people ? 

Do you think people would offer food to 
god if be really eats sway whatever is 
offered ? 

What would happen If poisonous food s 
offered to god and the ' prasadam ' is 
eaten by innocent people ? 

(a) To show gratitude 

(b) Otherwise god will die 
(a) Yes (b) No 

(a Yes (b) No 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(ai They will be healthy 

(b) They will be prosperous 
(cj They will go to heaven 
(d) No useful purpose 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a) Those who offer such food 

will die Immediately 

(b) Those who eat such food will 
die Immediately 

CO god will die immediately 
(d) All the three will be safe 

What sort of powers can be attained by 

using holy ash and the like distributed at 

temples etc. 

Do you think that It will not work unless 

we have faith in It ? 

If so. do you have such Implicit faith? 

If no, why do you use such ashes ? 

Po you think you resort to prayer on your 
own accord ? 

If so, are you Independent of god's 
control ? 
If not. why do only some people worship god t 

If your answer Is 'c' to 1 . 6 . 4, how do 
you explain the strange phenomenon of 
some parts of god existing In men (devotees > 
worshipping some other parts of god 

exsiting in stones, metals, paper etc. (Idols, 

pictures etc ) 

After answering all the above questions do you 
still think : 

paryers are necessary ? 

Your belief in god stands to reason ? 

(If your answer is * yes ' proceed to the next 


(a) Material powers 

(b) spiritual powers 

(c) No powers 

(a) Yes (b y No 

(a) Yes (b) No 

(a) It may help 

(b) It will not harm 

(a) Yes (b) No 
(a) Yes (b) No 

fa) Yes 
(a) Yes 

(b) No 
(b) No 



Possession By Spirit 


.&. Si 


Madhupur, Bihar 

I have heard and read ia the past 
many instances of persons having been 
possessed by spirits. But I have alway* 
dismissed them as cases of mental illu- 
ions or cases of hallucinations- But the 
ease that took place In our office preraists 
in June TS. and witnessed by all the 
members of our office. 
had been a waking 
experience badly shak- 
ing my earlier notions 
about the spirits. 

employee used to occupy a small room on 
the Northern side of the building attached 
to compound wall. Gouda aged 25 years 
belongs to Ganjam district of Orissa state. 

On 15-6-78 Gouda was seen by the 
guard on duty Mr. Sarju Ram. returning 

from the market 

This case whose 
details 1 am going to 
give in the following 
pages occurcd within 
the premises of office 
of Survey of India, 
Patharchapti, Madhu- 
pur. S. P. Bihar, India 
on 15th June 78 and 
kept us all in tension 
till 22*4* Our office 
}s a double storeyed 
(old) building known 
locally at Madhupur as 
"Lai Kothi". Our office 
was shifted into this 
building in November 
*76 from Bhubaneshwar. 
The office functions 
in the greater part 
of the ground floor and 
three families stay in the first employees 
floor and two fa the ground floor. Some 
reside in the out-bouses attached to the 
compound j wall. Mr. B. B, Gouda, an 

with a bag in hand 
areund 7 pm. The 
guard during his 
roundiaround 9-30 
p. m noticed ihat 
the door of Gou- 
da's room wa_ 
open and that 
Gouda was lying 
in an unconscious 
state with head 
portion of his 
body Iving under 
the cot He called 

Mr. Bh a g i ra t h 
Singh. Head Clerk 
who was working 
in his room and 
woke up Mr. 
Swamy, Surveyor 
and myself resid- 
ing in the first 
floor. We all 
went to tho 
re ooi of Gouda 
and on examnation found that Gouda was 
breathing but was unconscious On seeing the 
body of Gouda in that state we immediately 
rushed him to the residence of Dr. S. S 

This is the report sent 
by the author Mr. G. S. Kumar, 
B.B. (Civil), AM. I.E., A. M I.S., 
Dip. Aer. Phot. (I T C), who 
is an admirer of Rationalists, on a 
recent incident that took place in 
his presence. According to him. 
he had discussions about this with 
a few persons In the field and also 
met and discussed with persons who 
were possessed by spirits and were 
treated. Since he was unable to find 
logical explantions for some 
unusual aspects. he seeks the com- 
ments and explanations by any 
member of I.R.A. Readers are 
therefore requested to send their 
reactions and explanations Dr. 
A. T. Kovoor has already been 
requested to give his own comments. 

— Editor 



Daruka, Asst. Civil Surgeon, Madhupur.. 
It was about 10-45 p. m. After seeing the 
condition of Gouda, Dr. Daruka accom- 
panied us to D. C. Hospital Madhupur. 
Assisted by us and the compounder a 
rubber tube for vomitting was forcibly 
inserted (because of clenched teeth) in the 
mouth of Gouda. Dilute permanganate 
solution was poured into the stomach 
through the tube resulting in vomitting. 
Physical examination of the vomitted liquid 
did not indicate presence of food or any 
other odour. Vomittiog was done suspec- 
ting this to be a poison case. After this, 
intravenous feeding of saline water and 
seme injections were given. Upto 17-6 78 
he was mote or less unconscious with 
occasional signs of Improvement. 

Injection and saline water continued. 
A lew spoonfulls of Glucose water and 
milk preparation were consumed by him 
but with great pain in the throat while 
swallowing. At times he used to murmur 
names of persons with whom he was 
familiar. On 18th morning he experienced 
lesser pain in swallowing water/liquid. On 
18th evening when some of us were stand- 
ing near his bed around 5 O'CIock. his 
condition deteriorated so badly within a 
few minutes that it appeared that death 
was imminent. The doctor was immediately 
brought and saline water and injections 
were given. After about half-;<n-bour 
some physical recovery wis visible though 
he was unable to speak. Same sltuttioa 
continued the next day also. He was able 
to swallow little water/liquid with great 
difficulty. On I9ih evening also there was 
similar deterioration in his condition At. 
tnat time the doct r and compounder 
were also present. With saline injec- 
tions there was some improvement. On 
20th and 21st June, his condi- 
tion was fairly better. He could consume 

liquid food with lesser difficulty and there 
were signs of recognising persons known 
to him though he was still not able to 
express himself. It will be relevant to 
mention here that an expenditure of about 
Rs. 300/- was incurred so far on injections, 
saline bottles etc 

According to the two persons attending 
on him, on the midnight of 21/22 6-71 
(around 2 p. m.) they suddenly heard 
Gouda shouting with violent physical joutbur- 
sts. One of them rushed a id brought the- 
compounder ( with in'about 1 5 minutes) who 
stays ncarby.By that time, the Patient calmed 
down into sl;ep. The compounder check- 
ed and found pulse to be normal and went 
back with the idea of examining him in 
the morning. On 22a I naming as usual 
1 went to the hospital at about 7a.m. 
We were unsuccessful in waking up Gouda 
though bis respiration appeared normal 
He opened his eyes whicn had distant looks 
and a stony gaze. His senses were not 
functioning at all. liven scratching on his 
feet produced no reaction in him. The 
compounder was called He examined and 
said that decision about further course of 
action can] bo taken after the doctor comes 
a little later. Just at that time Kajkumar, 
driver, Electricity Board, an acquaintance 
of ours happened to be there. He suggested 
that the patient be shiwnto a "Maulvi" 
nearby who is good at tickling cases of 
persons possessed by "spirits'*. More in 
desperation titan hope, I agreed. Within 
a few minutes. Rajkumar brought 
Maulvi who had a careful look at the 
lifeless body* of Gouda. He asked us the 
patient's name and did some calculations 
on a small piece of paper and drew a 
diagram on another paper and put it 
and poured water in it. As directed by him 
we managed to make Gouda swallow one 



tea-spoonful of water 
from the glass After 
making sure that the 
water poured into his 
moutb hnsgonet hrough 
the throat by raising 
the head slightly, the 
Maulvi made some 
reigious chantings and 
bl.w air into each of 
the ears of Gouda. 
Sudden!y to our great 
surprise we noticed 
stiffening in his body 
accompanied with sound 
The Maulvi confirmed 
the presence of evil 
"spirit" inside him 
and set out on fuither 
course of action. 
Besides myself, Maulvi. 
Rajkumar three more 

MOULVI maki. 
violently to get 

Nayeem and 
e Chaman Lai- 
Charles, Ghakkan Ram (Survey of India) 
and the compounder were also present. 
As directed by the Maulvi we made Gouda 
sit on (he cot with our support, Maulvi 
lit a candle and wanted mustard oil which 
was made available. On another piece of 
paper he wrote something and rolled the 
paper and covereJ it with cotton. He 
then poured the mustard oil after some 
chantiog into both the ea s of Gouda- 
Nayeem was holding the head of Gouda 
aDd blocked the cars by inserting the fincer.s 
After this the Maulvi asked all of us to 
hold Gouda firmly as he is likely to become 
violent in a few seconds. Then the Mauvj 
took the rolled paper with cotton and igni- 
ted it in the candle flame- He extinguished 
the burning roll and brought it near the 
nose of Gouda As soon as the smoke was 
inhaled, Gouda became violent and was 
trying to get out of our hold. The Maulvi 
warned us not to loosen the hold. Tho- 
ugh all the o of us were able bodied it 

g Gouda iiihilc the smoko while Gouda tries 
out of t^c hold of the persons holding him. 

was a tough job to hold him. Evtrytimc 
the extinguished paper roll was brought 
near the nose. Gouda was shouting with 
violent movement. Each time Maulvi was 
asking "Who are you? What is your name'? 
At the fourth time. Gouda spoke, "1 will 
tell you. I will tell you- Oon't kill me." 
Thus the process of questions and ans- 
wer was set. For extracting answer to 
each question the Maulvi would make 
him inhale some smoke. The gist of answers 
that came out of Gouda in about 2o 
minutes are given beK'w: 

"lam from Arrah. My name is Suraj* 
I am not an enemy of Gouda He was my friend 
He did so much rome If wanted to take him 
with me. I caught him on the necke* Now I 
will leave him t will not come to him again 1 
will not come to anybody in that compound, 

# Sun) Ban. Ram wai ua driver in our oflie* balanginj 
to a plat* called Arrah m Bihar who di»d In a j«*p KcMsnt 
on 26-12-77 near Tatanagar 

tW This •KpUiot 'or <h« tarrlble pun cxptn<< 

Goudi 'n i»»tlow,"i avan t oontulli of watvr. 



At this stage he spoke to say that he was 
hiicgry fordavs. There was some milk 
prep 'ration in a small container which was 
offered to him; When it was taken near 
Gouda, he grabbed it and drank it in a 
couple of seconds followed by gulping a 
glass of water. This was watched by all 
of us w i l h greatsstonishment because 
till last night Gouda was able to take 
only spoonbills that too with pain while 
swallowing: The Maulvi explained that 
the food given has been consumed by the 
spirit inside and not Gouda and that it 
wiil consume huge quantities If fed fur- 
ther. He continued with his questions 
which brought forth following replies : 

" 1 will go, I will go. I want the 
blood of a fowl. The blood may be put 
in an earthern pot and left below the 
Neem tree in front of the office. Make 
way for me I will go away *'■ 

The Maulvi cleared way and asked 
Neyeein to remove the fingers from tht 
ears. Gouda fell down exhausted. Maulvi 
sprinkled some water. Gouda opened his 
eyes after a few seconds and started 
recognising us all He could sit on his 
own. He ale bread and egg without any 
p,iin in s val lowing. It was like a miracle 
to see the change that came in him within 
about lulf-an-hour. The compounder of 
the hospital was a witness to all this. 

G uda was then brought back to the 
office from the hospital He was weak 
but could consume food- By evening, his 

looks again became blank and was not 
able to rccog-ise anyone Maulvi was 
called who confirmed that the spirit hu 
again come on him. This time the entire 
staff and some family members were also 
watching. The Maulvi repeated the ritual 
of the morning. This lime at ihc very 

first inhalation of the smoke. Gouda starte d 
pleading that he will go away. Maulvi 
questioned why he had come again after 
promising to leave in tha morning. The 
voice said, " It was a mistaka for which 
punishment has been received". The 
Maulvi then cancelled the agreement made 
in the morning to offer a fowl. The 
spirit agreed to It. Finally It left- Alter 
a few seconds Gouda started recognising 
all of us. When enquired about his condi. 
tion, he replied that he feels as if " a 
heavy stone is on his head ". The Maulvi 
chanted for a few seconds and tied a 
" Taveez " (charm). Thereupon, Gouda 
informed that he was all right. We 
kept him under special watch and care 
for a few days. 

On 24-4-71* I asked Gouda some 
searching questions about the various 
happenings. The gist of his answers are 
given below : 

I was lying on bed on 15-6-1978. [ 
don't reraemler what happened to me 
after that. The first time, I started 
recognising my surroundings was on the 
eveniog of 22-6-78. Later some of the 
persons in the office told me about the 
tieatment given to me at the hospital and 
the Miulvi's treatment 1 don't remember 
all this, i remember very vaguely one 
scene I am lying on a cot to a grave- 
yard. 1 am surrounded by fearful appear- 
ances with swords in hands and demanding 
various things (I don't remember exactly 
what they were demanding from me) I 
am assuring them that 1 will bring those 
things for them. I also remember that at 
times 1 had the vision of Goddess in the 
temple In my home town '. 


Within 3 days, Gouda recovered 
completely and was able to attend to all 
(Cont. on page No. 285) 



Influence of 
Caste system 
in Indian 

and technology are not given their due an d 
rightful place. We see an attendant or clerk 
usually trealing with disrespect a prosperous 
farmer or artisan. This cultural nversion was 
pointedly condemned by the author of 
Tirnkural t.vo thousand years back, and 
Gandhi Uday. 

1 was surprised when I read recently 
h'>\v Brdhaminism introduced the fine caste 

— 8. L. Bharathi 

(Vice President of I. R. A) 

[This is the key paper presented at 
a session of the 1 th Convention of 
Indian Rationalists in Palghat —Ed) 

The influence of caste system Is all perv- 
asive in Indian society adversely affecting 
all aspects of its life. It is causing immen- 
se injury and havoc dominating the vital 
fields of politics and religion. Througout 
Indian history it has teen bclstering aggre- 
ossion, ignorance and- Injustice. It prves 
to pe a stumbling block to all progressive 
social changes. Whatever claimi it may 
put up towards conserving traditions and 
culture, being bssically Irrational, It was 
functionally negative even from the start and 
came to be a continuous residu of all the ab- 
surdities of social behaviour. It is a standing 
proof of successive defeats and degra- 
dation of the Indian society at the hands 
of every invader and newcomer. 

The greatest barm that the caste system 
causes to Indian society is to perpetuate 
a dichotomy between intellect or technology 
and work or labour, It has thereby degraded 
all vitally important producive occupations 
such as agriculture and industries to the 
lowest scale of values, going to the extent 
of dubbing some of them as even sinful 
worthy of segregation. This cultural per- 
version persists even today in that science 

system including that of untouchable Parlas 
in the distant east like the countries in 
Indo-china and the island of Bali (Hindu- 
Ism and Buddhism 3 volmc by Sir Char- 
les Elliot The casteism priests. Innumera- 
ble of gods and goddesses and even Sati 
are the visible marks of the fused but 
not synthesised Mahayanism and Brahmi- 
nism left any countries like Combog and 
Champa under the aegis of Sanskrltscd 
chola and pallava dynasties "The Brahm- 
ins " observes Sir ^Charles Fllol "Indeed 
ne^er ceased to give their sacrificial system 
their theoretical and when possible their 
practical approval, for it embodies a principle 
most dear to them, namely the other 
castes can obtain success and heaven only 
under the guidance of Brahmins and by 
rites which only Brahmins on perform. 
The guiding principle of Brahmins has 
always been whatever nny be the creed, 
they must be its minister " 'page 70, vol I 
and 191 vol. II) 

If you start at the bottom knelling 
the death of uatouchability, you will enJ 
by striking at Brahminsim and if you 
start at the summit of knocking out Brah- 
minism you will succeed in eradicating 
untouchability. The meet of these two 
movements will be the nodal centre at 
wh'ch caste ceases to exist. 



Ganahi commenced bis campaign cau- 
tiously from one end pnd E. V. Ramasamt 
from the other end. But befeore the two 
would meet, Brahminism *woke and 
assasioated Gandhi and countered effectively 
the Pcriar EVR. Both arc as usual adopted 
an Kalivuga avatars in the cause of 
Sanatanic Hinduism, and shrines and 
st«lul«s are installed in plenty. Brahminism 
indeed stoops so low only to conquer. 

Both the Harijan Scvak Sang and self 
Respect Movement had their origin In 
the inescapable necessities of the situation 
context. The psuedo-nation.iism of the 
Congress set out only to free India from 
the rule of the white Paring!, came io 
collision with the problem of depressed 
classes Gandhi had to undertake an epic 
fast auto deuth to annul the British Prime 
Ministers award of separate representation 
and Dr. Ambedkar yielded when a solemn 
pledge was given by caste Hindu leaders 
to eradicate untouchabilty within (en years 
under the Pune Pact Gandhi formed the 
Harijan Seva Sang to do the task. To 
coax the believers he invented the formula 
Sarva Dharni Samanatva as an elixir but 
It proved to ha\e no better efficacy than 
his charisma. EVR the General Secretary 
of the TNCC sought in vain to aid the 
bud of caste virus that raised its head in 
the Shermadevi Gurukola founded as a 
national Institution by the late V.V.S l>er 
but late, learnt to bis cost that he had 
thereby only stirred a hornets nest. For- 
U led to the wholesale resignation of 
Brahmin leaders under Rajaji from the 
congress under the pretext that what was 
sanctioned by religion cannot be inter- 
fered with by the congress. Though he had 
the support of Gandhi on this is^ue, the 
Vaiko here realised soon that swaraj without 
communal justice meant only Brahmin 
raj of dharma sastras- Failing in his efforts 
he walked out of the congress at Conjee- 

. aram with his followers like Ramanatban. 
He started the Self Respect Movement and 
rejected Hinduism in favour of Atheism 
The erstwhile Justice party merged into 
Lis Dravidi KiizhiL-am and we have now 
the offshoots of DMK and AIADMK 
capturing power successively assuring comm- 
unal justice, progressive social reforms, 
fighting Hindi Imposition and striving for 
stale autonomy. For a student of socio- 
logy carefully scanning the still extant 
parts of ancient Tamil literature, it is not 
baid to trace the gradual superimposition 
of the c*ste system on a people who extolled- 
the principle of univcral brotherhood and 

The constitution and the laws make 
untouc-hability an offence on paper but 
untouchabillty and caste are now posing 
a soeic-ecoDomic threat to our peace and 
unity. Violent caste conflicts as in Bihar are 
becoming the order of the day. Even In 
the South the NDP of tha Nair commu- 
nity warns that Bihar will be repeated 
in Kerala. JP, awakening like Rip Van- 
winkle after a prolonged withdrawal from 
the public scene could neither spell tut 
clearly his total revolution nor enlist 
sufficient youth force to bring it about 
Th« President, the PM and the VVIPs with 
mental reservations make their pilgrimages 
to the sage who sit idle in Paumar like the 
oracle in Delphi. They look to, 
Rameswaras, A\yappas -nd Durghas in vain. 

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Unlike avatars godmens are appearing in 
abundance- In Tamilnadu, though the Archa- 
kas Act was held valid by the supreme court 
U is not implemented on th« pretext of 
certain observations of one of the judges, 
a brahmin that agamas are to be followed. 
Tbc Brahmin is still holding on to his last 
vestige of superhuman symbolism and 
asserts his powers by mustering all strength 
around temples yagnas and asthik organiza- 
tions. Eminent scientists and judges are 
flocking around them net to speak of 
our governors and ministers 

Politics and religion possess very many 
similarities in enjoying and reaping benefits 
and privileges inkoving the cult of loyalty 
and bakthi. Both claim today omnipresence. 
omniscience and omnipotency. Bothasscrt 
absolute sovereingty and demand "varagathi, 
from all. Bothroly on the strength of a hlerar- 
chial bureaucracy armed wlthrc wardsand 
punishments .Both freely exploit the instir.cis 
and emotions to hold in leash the gullible 
public. A hierarchial bureaucracy found 
in all sectors of state exhibit to day its 
callous away providing both the Parkinson's 
law of growth and the Peter's principle, 
of the employee tending to rise to his level 
of the employee tending to rise to his 
level of incompetence in a hierarchy 

Among that great religions of ihe 
world there is none which countneac s 
many hystorical immoral and cruel rites 
as Brahminisrn, observes Sir charles Eliot^ 
The social corruptions and convulsions 
we see today are omlneus and portant 
The Indian society is placed in a state 
of lawless violence today «n account of 
its being caste ridden and guardians of laws. 
The constitution has been shattered by 
repeated questionable amendments and 
beattn out of shape by the congress in 
power for thirty years The Parliament alone 
can ntver claim full suvcreignty or all 

constituent power. The CPM and somf 
states rightly claim and revision, of centre 
state relations. Only a new constituent 
assembly elected by the people can frame 
a constitution and seek to bring about a 
consensus and legitimacy. 

However much you may attempt to 
stretch and befog the meaning of 'Secularism' 
one can never put into it he Ideal or Hindu- 
stan, and Hindu feared to be the objective 
the RSB and Jansangh The press, The Radio 
the TV and all mass media are geaicd 
to the propagations of bakthi cult and 
no adequate attention Is paid to foster 
scientific outlook or attitude. Even writers 
by their stories spread the superstition of 
ghosts, spirits and life after death. 

Will rationalism widen our perspectives 
and show the way of life' in those days of 
global pressures and conflicts.? v 

Let Reason Prevail Upon <ft 











li ten* tattn • dignity to 
wedding, grating. Inviutlen and 
vititlng I'rdi, IctCsr -htadi, 
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Hypnosis - find its Possibilities 

Hypnosis a term widely known but 
misunderstood even among the educated 
circle lacks any specialised literature on H 
which may interest the common reader 
This article tries to explain certain possibi- 
lities of hypnosis, 

Hjpnosjs means induced sleep. The 
induction is made through suggestions. The 
hypnotised person reacts actively to what 
the hypnotist tells htm to do. 

The stages of hypnosis arc divided by 
various authors. The main stages are three. 
First a slight drowsiness and general mus- 
cular relaxation will he followed by the 
flexibility of the muscles and omes the 
final stage which makes possible to demon- 
strate the most surprising phenomena of 
hypnosis It is In this stage van us feats 
are done by the godmen and hypnotists 

Its use in medicine Is invaluable. But 
those who practise it ia medicai field are 
very limited We do not haw istito- 

tion. recognised to teach tins ad So 
those who fall in love with this subject 
learn it in the oldest form of learning- trill 
■nd error. 

Hypnotherapy is highly useful in treat- 
fog the diseases which are having some 
sort of phyehological impact. Most of the 
diseases which are having their origin in 
mind i e sub-conscious It is highly effective 
In dealing with morbid fear of non-exis- 
taot diseases, manias, stammering and in 
speaking and in breaking bad habits 
child birth can be made easier. The 
people who have weakened their will by 
excessive drinking can be helped to get 
out of the moron they have found 
themselves in. Among many psychoti/era- 



putic means auto luggestion and self-hypnosis 
are of great value in getting relaxation 
and to regain energy in a shorter time, 

Recently the technique of hypnosis has 
been spreads to new spheres. In particular 
attempts are under way to use it for rai- 
sing the level of assimilation material in the 
process of instruction. It is being used 
even for criminal investigation in USA. 

Investigations being carried out recen- 
tly ate important not only for the solution 
of some or other concrete tasks but also 
for the final debunking of all manner of 
mysticism for a materialised explanation of 
the so-called toys crious phenomena of the 
human mind. 

The ever increasiug interest in the study 
of hypnosis and related phenomena and 

'ration into the depths of its psycho. 

icc opea up new opport 

unities foi its practical use. ^ 

Mr N. K. Sabipathy tries to put 
(be possibilities of Hypnosis in a nut- 
shell. He will be glad to reply to any 
questions or doubts on the subject. 
He ulso under takes to assist the 
readers if they hdv* 
any psychological or othrr problems, 
h his services are available free 
ot cost, any donations or the Associa- 
tion are most welcome For appoint- 
ment please write to I. R A. 




Even as the 'great' saviours of the world 
and their 'holy' messengers are striving 
hard to propogate the 'Ultimate Truth* 
and the Immortal' character of the soul, 
the first test-tube baby has been born. A 
baby, which has been conceived and 
nurtured In the test -tube before being 
planted into a woman's womb thanks to 
the two great dnctors Dr Patrick Stcptoe 
and Dr Robert Edwards. 

The baby born is not strictly a test- 
tube baby of our imagination. The baby 
was not completely created In the labora- 
tory. But the fertilization part was done 
outside the body of Mrs. Brown. An egg 
at a specific time in the menstrual cycle 
was removed from her budy and fertilized 
with her husband's sperm in the laboratory. 
The feitllized egg was artficially cultured 
for four and a half days, after which It 
was implanted back Into her womb for 
further growth as normal baby. This test tube 
method of birth would be welcomed by 
couples, who desire a baby but cannot have 
one due to the defective or damaged fallo- 
pian tube- 
Man has today made a break-through- 
he has made a giant leap in under standing 
creation. The creator will soon be among 
the unemployed - may we register him 
in anticipation our employment exchange 
But alas, there is a perplexing question. 
What is his nationality and besides oh! 
we need his nativity certificate duly attested 
by a Tahshildar! 

Soul Searching 

The birth of the test-tube baby has 
dealt another blow to the concept of soul- 
Is the soul in the sperm or in the ovum? Or, 


does each of them contain half a soul? If so, 
can you imagine the millions and billions of 
souli destroyed everyday by ova and sperms 
which do not result in fertilization? At which 
stage of the fertilisation or birth does a soul- 
emerge? If soul enters at the time of firti- 
S-ilj. n the two eminent doctors do not 
declare to have seen its entry. If the soul 
is a part of the creator's manifestation of 
himself within the human-being, will this 
new Miss. Brown lack a soul? The soul- 
searching must pe deeper than what our 
saints and godmen can afford to. 

The moral imbalance and ethical 
degradation about which the religious mtn 
complain and the sigh of relief which the 
moderates heaved stating that a t 1 e -i s t 
the two scientists only fertilized the 
sperm and ovum of a 'married' couple are 
all narrow perspectives. As in other fields 
man has to accept the modern changes. 
Inspltc of the non-patronising attitude of 
une of tht w e a I th I e s t and scletilically 
weil developed natloos. the United States 
(due to non-approval by the Federal Ethics 
Advisory Board) the test-tube baby has 
been born. Now the time Is ripe to rewrite 
Ethics and review our moral standards. 
This success will surely establish the useless 
and irrational nature of the concept of the 

Ms. S Sudha 


After two successful massive Gujarat 
wide people's campaigns against Baba Jal 
Gurudev saket and Goddess Gayatri 
Yagnas. undar the dynamic leadership of 


Shree Narendra Dave- GRA Secretary 
and guidance of Shrec Ksmalashanker 
Pandya. IRA Piesident another grand 

victory was achieved by GRA agalns 1 
Gujarati Films depicting and encouraging 
Miracles, superstition and unscientific 

Huge public meetings were organised, 
thousand* of leaflets were distributed, 
"Dramatic-Scenes" were staged and massive 
dera mstrations aod proceisions were held. 
Two other organisations viz cultural-Guild 
a Federation of cultural organisations 
and Maharishi Dayananda KranM kendra, 
a youth organisation of Gujarat Arya 
Saraaj also jointed the campaign 

A huge people's dem jnsirjticyi was 
organised under the leadership of Shree 
N.irendra Dave, Shree Vlnav Kapadia, 
Pravin Rishtrapal GR^ leaders Shrec Mitra 
Mahesh Arya of Arya Samaj. Shree 
Surendra Bodi.vala Smt Lina Shah of 
Federation of cultural organisation. Shrec 
Kamlesh Thaker, well known film actor, 
at the Ahmcdabad collector's office. The 
deputation led by Shree Narcndra Dave 
then submited the "memorandum" to the 

A protest meeting was held under 
the presidentship of Prof. Dr. Prakash 
Sharma of Gujarat university whe.e leading 
pubile men and artists from various fields 
also vehemently criticised the Government 
policy of Tax-Exemption" to such films. 
In the meeting leading artist and editor 
of widely c i r u 1 a t e d film weekly. 
"CHITRALOK" shrecsrushikant Nanavati 
film music Director of Shrec Ksherau 
Diuetia, film script writer shree Daulat Bhatt. 
film art Director Sh'ee Ramakumar Rajpria 
well known film actor, shree Kamlesh 
Thaker, Thakerl Prof. Mahsheh Deva, Mrs. 
Nilam Devi Gawadia* a leading public 
social worker and GRA leaders shree 


C.K. Balan, Vjnay Kapadin and Sh 
Pravin Rashtrapal spoke 

A strong delegation under the lead' 
ship of GRA secretray. Shree Narendra Da 
met shree Popabliai Vytl, the cultural m 
stcr of Gujarat Govt at Oandhinagar a 
submitted the " memorandum ". 

The leading dailies and film magazir 
gave wide publicity to GRA campalg 
and leadiug columnists of the press wrt 
special ' write ups " supporting GF 

Dccause of the massive campaign 
GRA, the government of Gujarat had 
consider the public opinion and the cultuj 
minister announced that, the Governme 
policy is under review and tax exemptic 
will be considered on mi it ind governme 
has written to " ceis >r-'o >ard •' for flxti 
up certain "norms" for such films. 

This victory was uoo.hcr feather 
the cap of G. R. A. in the receat month 
GR\ workers are planning to hold no 
" Gujirat state Conference " at Ahm; dabi 
sometime in next December. 


Mr. V.M. Tarkunde was given a ra 
award by the International Humanist an 
Ethical Union for the work done I 
him for civil liberty in India du iug th 


Confering the honour Prof Mihaill 

protfessorof Philosophy, University of Bdgi 
ade, Praised Mr Tarkunie's service in th 
cause of democracy and described him a 
a great humanist. 

The former judge of Bombay Hig 
Court and President of the Indian Radic* 



Humanist Association joined the distingui- 
shed company of Prof. Berrv Commoner. 
U.S.A.. and Mr. Harold Backham. UK- 

Speaking at the presentation ceremony 
attended by delegates from 20 countries' 
Mr. Twkundc warned that if the limited 
democracy" which existed in India today 
was replaced by a stable authoritarian 
rule, the fate of democracy in the rest of 
the third world was likely to be sealed 
for several generations. 


Mr. Sanjiva Reddy, President of India 
told 130 M.P's who met him on 
10-8-78 that he did not want to get 
" too much involved openly **. But that 
did not mean that he was not aware of 
the problems the country was facing. 
He hoped God would give the MP's, 
hlmsef and all others wisdom so lb t alt 
might rise to the occasion and help tht 

It is well and good if the M.P.'s, 
President, etc. get the badly needed 
wisdom atleast in due course. But, then 
what would happen to the country if the 
God does not oblige the President. Answer 
is simple- Country will go to dogs — and 
the blame can bo squarely put on the 
Innocent gods ! 

* * 


"It is reliably gathered that in the 
snake affected tract of Pharsabahar^ 
Bagbhar and Kansahel, rich in alluvial 
Gold about 19 persons have so far died 
of snake bite, while another 4 persons died 
of snake bite In Pathalgaon tract so far 
this siason. 


According to the DHO. though ihe 
PHCs nre equipped wiih snake venoms 
and publicity being made, vet very: rarely 
victims a-e brought to hospitals Instead 
they depend too much on spells" hes-ild. 

The above news item appeared in 
• Nagpnr Times' dt 8-8-78 1 e. just one 
day before ' Nag — Panctaami * when lacs 
of gullibles worship the snakes, offering 
milk elc Will the concerned ' God's- 
look into the matter ? 

— Alok liwari, Nagpur 

* * 


Jewels beloogtng to the Venugopala- 
bwami temple on Gopalapurara second street 
were found stolen oo Mondiy night. 
Forensic Science experts have taken finger 
prims and the theft is being investigated. 

According to police, the stolen goods 
include a glass box containing a silver 
vcl presented by DMK president M Karun- 
anidhl. He had recived the vel as a mo- 
menta from Tiruttani^ temple. 
» * 


Thieo persons in<luding a two year 
old child were crushed to death when a 
i00 foot long fiont elevation of a temple 
in Sitarjmbagn area In Hyderabad Iljpscdco 

* * 


When one ailing hobo was rushed 
to a Johannesburg hospital in South Africa 
he was refused admission on the excuse 
that the hospital catered exclusively i.» 
whites. However, after a thorough scrub i ■.. 
to wash off the grime and filth of several 
months, If not more, the hobo was hos-? 
pitalized. He was white underneath it all. A 


Readers' Forum 


In the April issue of FREETHOUGHT 
yon asked for readers' comments on Vege- 
tarianism: Is it a fad, or should the ration- 
alist movement take it seriously? 

I do not deny for a moment that in 
the West. America and Australia vegetarianism 
as a movement has become bedevilled with 
food faddisra, mysticism and superstition. 
The British writer, Br'gid Brophy, Is the 
only militant freethinker who immediately 
comes to my mind as being active in 
"western" vegetarian movements. However, 
the present disappointing situation should 
not blind rationalist, to the moral and 
practical case for vegetarianism. 

Living as I do near an Australian city's 
slaughterhouse and In animal pens I am 
regularly reminded of the moral case against 
exploiting animals for their meat and milk 
Farming animals for such purpose (at least 
in the West) involve!: artifice! breeding 
methods; cestration (to encourage gain In 
weight); premature separation of mother 
from offspring ; overcrowding ; long and 
exhausting journeys of animals to the slaugh- 
ter yards. The inequities of this regtuen are 
corpounde by that in most climates more dusa. 
ble plant protein can be rnlsed b> a hectare of 
land than can aninul protein The meat-milk 
industry is not only cruel; it is wastefue 

Some Indian freethinkers have, I know 
encouraged the eating ofbeafand pork as 
a means of assiling the whole body of 
Hind-i superstition and tradition. While 
I can. within limits, sec the value of 
••sh:ck tacties". may 1 respectfully iugges t 
that in the long term this particular method 


may prove to be counter productive. One 
might just as well try to assault christian 
taboos and irrationalism by advising Euro- 
pean to revert to cannibalism! 

1 feel certain that, if we are to move 
towards an age in which the world's good, 
and other resources are shared fairly, vege- 
tarianism will become — will have to become 
the aorm. It is essential, therefore, that 
rationalists take up this issue and see that 
the public is informed of the real moral 
and ethical issues involved, not the pseudo- 
acienee with which it is at present encum- 
bered Here India (once again) can pave 
t he way ! 

Perhaps I should, in closing, make It 
clear that while I am currently the Secretariy 
of the Secular Society of ..Victoria 
(Australia) and am a former editor ol the 
Freethinker (London), the opinions I have 
given here are strictly my personal ones. 

Nigel H. Sinnott. Australia 


This is in reference to the letter cap- 
tioned Women and Dowry' published in 
May. 1973 issue of FREETHOUGHT. 

If you kindly excuse me, I wish to say 
that the debouncing of dowry system has 
become a mere fashion, these days. 

Is not the dowry problem due to the 
girls and their calculating parents and guar- 
dians? I was a member of 1MB of IRA 
for a short period After some bitter experi- 
ence. I preferred to refrain, though, lam 
not for perpetuating dowry system 


In her letter your so-cniled victim of 
dowry system prefers a graduate or a diplo- 
ma holder whereas she li only an under 
graduate. Is a bride an employer who 
appoints a person verifying his qualification? 
Is she sure that a young ma'-i with a Uni- 
venlty Degree becomes a good life partner? 
Why do girls always prefer men better 
qualified than they are, whereas men never- 
hesitate to marry an Ill-qualified girl? 

This girl writes that all men demand 
dowry. Men spend thousands of rupees to 
acquire a degree hence is It wrong to ask 
for dowy (for she emphasises only on the 
qualification)? Before reforming others one 
should reform oneself. 

Now-a-days girls marry men's posi- 
tions only and not them as individuals 1 
also have no sympathy for the bargaining 
grooms who are mere ''buffaloes for hire" 
managed by their parents. 

I would like to narrate a bitter experien- 
ce as a would-be bridgroom The counseller 
of the 1MB sent me a proposal. Accep- 
ting it and on the i n v i t a t 1 o n of the 
glrPs father. 1 went to their house spending 
about Rs.1007-. The father of the girl 
wanted proof of ray qualification. He was 
also not as much interested in my res- 
earch work as he was in my earning capac- 
tics. I have been rejected by the parents 
of the girl because of their materia ln- 
l erest. These are the hard realities of life. 

Man's selfishness is limited and clearly 
visible in the form of dowry whereas girls 
selfishness is unlimited and hidden. Hence 
ihere Is no meaning in blaming young men 
for the evil of dowry. 

Your bemoaning girl writes that no 
one accepts a poor girl. If a poor girl 
accepts a pjor boy, it is not impossible 
to find a match. Instead if she needs only 
a well-to-do, well-settled, well-qualified and 
good-looking young man. she Is greedy. 
Your good offices are misused by greedy girls- 

In my opinion dowry system can be 
eradicated only by forming a classless society • 
Private property perpetuates this evil. Til 1 
the manifestation Of a classless society, the 
most effective remedy is love marriages. 
When the bride and bridegroom are mutu- 
ally interested then the Intervening commer- 
cial factors disappear So l.R A. which Is 
valiantly lighting against religion, gnd, 
superstition etc, must tight against this 
dirty system of arranged marriages. I would 
like l.R. A. leaders at least to propagate in 
uture self-respeci marriages. 

In conclusion. I would like to give an 
advice to this aspirant. How could she ihare 
a life with a person interested in her money. 
If we do not like even friends to be selfish, 
it must be more true of a person with whom 
one has to share her life We can live with- 
out marrying. I am determined to be alone 
without marrying till I find a girl not 
interested In my position. Similarly she 
too could wait boldly Sne need not be 
disheartened. Wc are not animals and 
hence we car. not share life with strangers 
Individual tastes, habits and mentalities 
differ making adjustment a difficult task. 
Even a marriage arranged by the I.R.A. 
cannot be a marriage In the true seaso 
of the word. 

C. Chandra Sekhar. Vtjayawada 




The Bible Contradicts Itself, 
Bible Absurdities & 
Archaeology and the Bible 

by John Bowden. 

Published by Ingcrsoll News for ihe Ratio- 
nalist Association of New Zealand and 

" When it Is universally recognised that 
there is nothing supernatural about the Bible 
that it is a purely human product — the 
book will then take its proper place among 
the world's literature," writes Bowrden. But 
he admits that day seems far off as long as it 
continues to be a convenient " instrument 
of ecclesiastical domination." 

These three pamphlets examine the 
Bible, veise by verse, to turn up an Impr- 
essive number of contradictions and historical 
fiction with that modern archaeology has 
proved interested people havr. tampered with 
the truth for their own ends. 

Archaeology has often fallen into disre- 
pute because of the number of charlatms 
it can accommodate, because if one has 
decided before hind what one Is going to 
find, it is easily turned up by a spade- In 
June of 1865, a Palestine Exploration Fund 
was set up under the Archibishop of York 
to depute Professor R.A.Macalister to carry 
out excavations in Palestie to corroborate the 
Bible accounts of Hebrew history, miracles 
and cosmic catastrophes stage-managed by 
God Scientific consldeations were to be 
of secondary impoitance. 

Not to be excluded, Germany. France 
and America also sponsored expeditions and 
"digs" turned up evidence that everything 
that happened in the Bible was true. If 
evidence conflicted with the accounts it 


was clearly a case of misinterpretation of 
the Word of God by fallible humans. 

Serious scholars, however, trace the Crea- 
tion story to Bubylon sources, and Bowden 
points Out, quoting verses, that Genesis has 
divergent recounts. Accounts of floods 
are also found in Babylonian and Assyrian 
literature, and archaelogical/ evidence of 
floods are f.-und only within certain areas 
of a few hundred square miles, whereas the 
Biblical account tells of a universal inun- 
dation. Until recetly the story of Noah's 
Aik resling on Ml Ararat kept cropping 
up in the press, until It was finally debun- 
ked in 1960 by a six* man American expe- 
D who said it was nothing but a lava- 
shaped mound. 

To give just one sample cf how Bibli- 
cal archae legists fabricated evidenc to 
satisfy those who contributed to the cost 
of their expeditions: Professor Grirame of 
Munich University, studied the protographs 
of certain ancient stones and deciphe.Ing 
what he imagined was a script, but which 
was really the flaking and weathering of 
the stones,! claimed it was a graven record of gratitude to Pharaoh's daughter for 
rescuing him from among the bulrushes of the 
Nile ! 

Contradictions in tho texts of the 

entire Bible often reduce the textual 
content to nonsense and in The Bible Con- 
tradicts Itself, Bowden combs through both 
Testaments in proof, eg. Adam was to 
die the day he ate of the tree of knowledge 
according to Genesis 2:17; but Genesis 5:5 
describes him as living to 930 years. Or 
again Cain is cursed to live as a fugitive 
In Genesis 4.14- 15 but the 17th verse des- 
cribes bim marrying, building a city and 
establishing a long line of descendants. 

While no serious student would deny 
that there is some authentic history found 
in the Bible, it must be distinguished from 
a mass of myth, legend, folk-lore and 
pseudo-history. In this context the book 
assumes the same significance as the 
Mahabharata and Ramayana AH reflect 
social conditions of their timo. yet none 
are entirely true or authentic for their com- 
pilers have bent history to make certain 
religious and spiritual points 

However, among Christians, certain sects 
refuse to see any contradictions In the text 


since nothing divinely Inspired can possibly 
be wrong Says the author of a pamphlet 
on How to Read the Bible : 'Though the 
writers were divided by class by country, 
by age by disposition, there is a wonder- 
ful harmony in all they wrote. Whence 
came this wonderful unit ? From God: 
They all wrote under divine inspiration. 1 hey 
were God's agents, proclaiming His message 
unto men..." 

To such closed minds the Bible becomes 
a fetish, an object of blind devotioa and 

superstitious veneration'* 

Bible Absurdities puts one In mind of 
Professor Ajnal's statistical analysis of the 
Hindu Epics. For instance, calculating (he 
rate of increase cf the Israelites held in 
bondage in Egypt, the average works out 
to 66 children apiece to bring the number 
to three million. At the bxodus out of 
Egypt, with this number marching five in 
a rank" with their herds and sheep, the 
colum would have extended over 400 miles. 
But we are told they were out of the 
country within three hours — tra\clling, no 
doubt, at a speed of 130 rap h to wander 
in a wilderness for forty years an area which 
was as long as their column at its widest 

The Bible Is not only a mixture of 
good and bad. it is a product of many 
hands and follows a cultural trad tion 
through a certain historical process of a 
people often barbarous in the exueroe, 
ruled by a God who, not suprisingly, indu- 
lged in a similar barbarity. Most of i's 
moral sentiments were derived from pagan 
sources and these are more ihan counter- 
balanced by its unspeakable grossness and 

Archaeological research has not esta- 
blished the entire truth of the Bible but 
proved that the Holy Writ is often factimHv 
untrue. That ecclesiastical authories refuse 
to recognise this reality, leads one to the 
reluctant conclusion their persistent 
atlon has a maltrial motive They batten 
on gulible people's credulity, for a state- 
ment that is demonstrably fals; completely 
shatters the case for 'inspiration ' pre 
that the Bible is without authority." [> 

(Coot, from page No 274) 

the jobs in a normal way. When I talked 
about this experience to others, I was 
surprised to discover that in rural areas, 
possession by spirits Is accepted as a 
normal part of their life. 




—Ms. M.R. Bhatty 

I had 2 sessions of discussions with 
the Maulvi on J5-6-7S and 2S-6-78 and the 
Information collected Is given in brief. 

The Maulvi gets on an average 20 to 
25 cases in a month. He does not cbargt 
any fees 

There are many types of male and 
female spirits roaming In the space. Tbey 
a<-e known by different names The most 
wicked amongst them is known as"Khabeez* f - 
' Shekh Sahib ' is another which remains hid- 
den inside the victim These are male. 'Parit 
and 'Churel' are the female spirits. The 
spirits of persons who meet unnatural death 
belong to a separate category and exist as a 
result of unfulfilled passions and attachments 
to places and causes of their own time. The 
gbOStS or spirits usually stay in old houses, 
wells, tanks, etc They can move as they 
will but find it difficult t > enter the bodies of 
persons who arc 'pious*. Spirits are some- 
tine- benign and shower benefits on some 
persons But if treated badly whether deli- 
beratley or not, they turn malovelent and 

The Maulvi admitted that ho is not an 
exorcist who keeps ghosts under control. He 
gave details of a number of cases in which he 
exorcised and extracted the names of the 
spirits- He regretted thai inspire of curing 
cases which defied medical treatment, by 
extracting the spirit, many people refuse to 
believe thecxistence of spirits. > 


Test for Reason No. 12 


For a change a popular and easy 
problem is being given Ibis month. This 
problem was originally composed by the 
great Italian Mathematician — Thathalia of 
the 16th century. 

Three men A, B and C along with 
their wives Mrs. A. Mrs. B and Mrs. C are on 
a pilgrimage. At oue place they have to 
cross a lake to reach a temple situated 
In the middle of the lake. 

Solution to Test for Reason No, 1 1 

The minimum number of pessoos that 
can be in Ited is one. 

Suppose H (host) has married the 
daughter of his maternal uncle MUI and 
H's brother and sister have married the 
daughter and son respectively of his 
another maternal uncle MU II. Now H 
invites MU 11 who is 

There is a small boat at the bank 
but a maximum of two persons only can 
go In it. Unfortunately all the three 
husbands are so jealous and suspicious 
that no one is prepared to leave his wife 
at either of the banks or in Ibe boat in 
the company of other men without himself 
being present. In other words every man 
wants his wife to be in his company or 
In his absence, she should be in the 
company of women only. Though all the 
six of them know rowing, they are unable 
to find out a way to cross the lake. Can 
you help them 

Rules i 

1. The entries should be received on 
or before 1 5—9 — "7S 

2. There is a prize of Rs 10/- in 
the form of books to be sent to the 
winner. If there are more than one co, reel 
entry, the prize will be decided on lots. 

3. Readers are requested to quete 
their Membership or Subscription number, 


1. H's hrolher-in-law's (sister's hus- 
band) father 

2. H's Fatherin-law's brother 

3. H's brother's father-in-law 

4. H's father's brother-in-law 

The following have sent correct answer* : 

I. Mr Chander Raju, kalpakkam 

1 Mr. J. S. Jaswal, shlllong 

3 Mr. G. K. Nayar, N, Parur 

4. Mr. S V. Baul; Kazipet 

5. Mr. Roy Philip, Baroda 

6. Mr. M. T. Sathyanathan, Calicut 

7. Mr. N. Vijayakumar, Kuraool 

Mr. M. X. Sathyanathan gatbyanathan gets 
the prize in the draw. 

The following have sent correct solutions 
for Test for Reason No 10 

1. Mr. Chander Raju, Kalpakkam 

2. Mr. G. Kumar, Madras 

3. Mr. Nelson Gomez; Cochin 

Mr. Chander Raju. gets the prize in the draw 




II is regretted that the response for our appeal for liberal contributions for 
IRA Endowment Fund has been very disappointing. We are, however, grateful t« 
the following donors: 

1. Mr. P. Bhlraanna.Tuni (Second Instalment) 

2. A well wisher from Madras 
5. M«. M. R. Bhatty, Bombay 

As per July 78 issue 













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Cheques may please be drawn in favour of Indian Rationalist Association. 

—Treasurer, I.R.A. 

We heartily welcome the following new members 

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M— 45& 

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Mr. C J. Babu 

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Mr, C Chandrasekhar, b.a. 

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Mr. Alok Tiwari 
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