1 00:00:01,38 --> 00:00:08,28 You know and some point within like they start talking about. You know 2 00:00:08,28 --> 00:00:15,01 whether or not especially us that they would we now go back to your past was that 3 00:00:15,01 --> 00:00:20,39 something that your family had talked about or talked about during that time I was 4 00:00:20,39 --> 00:00:24,65 going back to Japan. You know they would then you talk about moving the family but 5 00:00:26,05 --> 00:00:32,18 then that's of course they had the hearing. And they would say they were the guys 6 00:00:32,18 --> 00:00:36,98 that went through it. This is what the hearing was about this 7 00:00:39,52 --> 00:00:45,77 and that was it. And it was up to interview 8 00:00:46,64 --> 00:00:51,25 classify the week where you're going. Can you tell me what was like for your 9 00:00:51,25 --> 00:00:55,18 hearing. When you went for a way like the questions asked 10 00:00:55,18 --> 00:01:01,91 a question. Wow I feel so far back I gave you that. I 11 00:01:03,59 --> 00:01:04,92 don't know what they asked. 12 00:01:11,26 --> 00:01:16,76 But the outcome after you went to the hearings what was what happened. Or division 13 00:01:17,80 --> 00:01:24,01 told us to go after we had the hearing and then afterward that why and 14 00:01:24,73 --> 00:01:31,58 we got segregated again. So tell me about that segregated again. I mean where were 15 00:01:31,58 --> 00:01:38,09 you people. Where were you taken place. I was said to sad affair after that. 16 00:01:40,01 --> 00:01:45,82 OK so after the hearing they decided to put you to Santa Fe about your father or 17 00:01:45,82 --> 00:01:51,95 brothers or their brother the rest of the family or one of my brothers went to 18 00:01:52,99 --> 00:01:59,96 my dad went to your I went and of course the next birthday 19 00:01:59,96 --> 00:02:06,84 when the three of us were so different camps and you. OK So 20 00:02:06,84 --> 00:02:10,97 you went to Santa Fe And were did your father's brother went to Santa Fe your 21 00:02:10,97 --> 00:02:16,72 father with his half and your younger brother was meeting with the Bismarck Did 22 00:02:16,73 --> 00:02:20,80 they ever tell you why you were something said the sound family man though if they 23 00:02:20,80 --> 00:02:26,97 do tell us why we just said you go to Santa Fe So maybe because we were 24 00:02:27,76 --> 00:02:34,55 kind of act two to active in the community. And we 25 00:02:36,23 --> 00:02:41,98 did you think of yourself as being outspoken about what was going on that mean in 26 00:02:41,98 --> 00:02:47,69 the community and you articulate your thoughts and why you thought wrong and. 27 00:02:48,37 --> 00:02:55,24 Maybe maybe add and of course the rumor 28 00:02:55,24 --> 00:03:00,09 so that could heard about it. But what's your sense I mean in the community. Do you 29 00:03:00,09 --> 00:03:07,03 think there are people who were observing you were there were these I would 30 00:03:07,03 --> 00:03:12,15 think just in this in this hearing too much. I mean you can tell them I will say 31 00:03:12,15 --> 00:03:16,62 anything in the questions and so they Jeff you're how they got the information to 32 00:03:16,62 --> 00:03:19,29 single you your father and brother 33 00:03:24,12 --> 00:03:30,31 . So so so 34 00:03:31,77 --> 00:03:37,01 when they decided after the hearing in the side that you need to go Santa Fe how 35 00:03:37,02 --> 00:03:43,13 much time was there. Did you have time to talk to your your parents our you know 36 00:03:43,13 --> 00:03:50,09 there was time to give you enough time right there. OK You're 37 00:03:50,09 --> 00:03:55,91 pretty fair about that. So when you went to see him. Santa fé what was. Did you did 38 00:03:55,91 --> 00:04:01,51 you go with your father at the same time no. The father went first and then I went 39 00:04:01,51 --> 00:04:07,68 later. And when they took your father did you know that you were to go 40 00:04:07,68 --> 00:04:14,38 later or or did you find out after your father left you know they. It's just 41 00:04:14,38 --> 00:04:17,17 like what the F.B.I. 42 00:04:17,17 --> 00:04:23,31 Become middle of the night not call your door and get to address the point that you 43 00:04:25,23 --> 00:04:32,23 have that's what I did my father in the same thing with you did they do some for 44 00:04:32,23 --> 00:04:36,85 us. They were there for. They told us the meat in 45 00:04:36,86 --> 00:04:43,56 a certain place and. We met there in the circus. So your 46 00:04:43,56 --> 00:04:47,99 father was was targeted. But yeah I guess he would because maybe he was through 47 00:04:47,99 --> 00:04:54,39 right. That's right. So I sent this point. So the Santa Fe was is classified as 48 00:04:54,39 --> 00:05:00,100 a Department of Justice right term and camp. Technically U.S. 49 00:05:01,01 --> 00:05:07,59 Citizens were not supposed to go to these camps. Yeah and the 50 00:05:07,60 --> 00:05:14,14 mechanism would have to be that you and your father would have signed something to 51 00:05:14,14 --> 00:05:15,21 your U.S. 52 00:05:15,21 --> 00:05:21,73 Citizenship. Yeah well more than just the no no I read something else said said you 53 00:05:21,73 --> 00:05:23,72 would be willing to give up your U.S. 54 00:05:23,72 --> 00:05:30,40 If that were hearing you through the lake. When the. OK so that on the happen 55 00:05:31,70 --> 00:05:35,85 and then they had to sound like the they came and took your father and then they 56 00:05:35,85 --> 00:05:40,65 gave you notice that you were also going to go south. So how did you feel about 57 00:05:40,65 --> 00:05:46,63 this. Did you think you know so here you went from from Fresno to jurong the 58 00:05:46,63 --> 00:05:50,64 concentration there then you're to get through late now you've been sent to 59 00:05:50,64 --> 00:05:52,40 a segregated. Yes half 60 00:05:52,40 --> 00:05:58,43 a so what you're thinking right now there is who. Well it's got to have it's got to 61 00:05:58,43 --> 00:06:04,37 have it's all you know at that time you know I view the larger war it's going to 62 00:06:04,37 --> 00:06:11,09 last. And. What you 63 00:06:11,09 --> 00:06:11,51 said it's 64 00:06:11,51 --> 00:06:17,51 a good chance that's all in how you feel about this. Were you angry about it or you 65 00:06:17,51 --> 00:06:23,83 just you know. So I was angry about.