WEBVTT 1 00:00:19.671 --> 00:00:26.382 OK ladies gentlemen of the Council. Me today. In reference 2 00:00:26.392 --> 00:00:33.392 to renaming Orange Street after the. In the in the memorial 3 00:00:33.482 --> 00:00:40.284 memory of Muro de Norman there's an irony to be submitted this recommendation 4 00:00:41.084 --> 00:00:45.534 that the door and be honored after Mr Moore Norman I had the pleasure of knowing Mr 5 00:00:45.544 --> 00:00:46.984 Norman all my life as 6 00:00:46.994 --> 00:00:52.124 a long life resonates I finally and recall many misnomers got to be 7 00:00:52.324 --> 00:00:58.024 a contribution to the community and particularly to the site residents from the 8 00:00:58.034 --> 00:01:03.254 sample task as helping neighbors with home repairs and challenging tasks and 9 00:01:03.344 --> 00:01:07.254 helping to find and lead preferred F.R. 10 00:01:07.294 --> 00:01:11.904 Freedom residents and also serving as the assistant director of the site Reg center 11 00:01:12.745 --> 00:01:16.715 knowledge no one has the Martin Luther King Center now the Boys and Girls Club poor 12 00:01:16.725 --> 00:01:22.125 people enslaved to county Miss enormous community and civic contributions are 13 00:01:22.135 --> 00:01:28.916 numerous and this later in addition I know Mr 14 00:01:28.926 --> 00:01:35.456 Norman via long loving family and caring man as a member of that family Gratian as 15 00:01:35.466 --> 00:01:39.417 a member display with rule by his wife his daughter as 16 00:01:39.427 --> 00:01:45.538 a member and knowing Mr Norman scuzz in rural care not just for immediate family 17 00:01:45.548 --> 00:01:46.688 but those who are 18 00:01:47.018 --> 00:01:52.258 a part of his extended family the family he said example had to stay together the 19 00:01:52.268 --> 00:01:58.278 family honoring our ancestors and the legacy they left for us he modeled many of 20 00:01:58.288 --> 00:02:03.728 the US it would be to be involved in giving back to the community in which he was 21 00:02:03.738 --> 00:02:10.678 raising neuter that only was they exempt whatsit his family but as for many an hour 22 00:02:10.888 --> 00:02:14.908 and his community and its neighborhood and church I just want to touch on the base 23 00:02:14.918 --> 00:02:21.809 of it some of this because it's so much and then 24 00:02:21.819 --> 00:02:28.311 we. We're going to ask. Why we 25 00:02:28.321 --> 00:02:35.173 should. Name the street and Honorary of Mr Norman 26 00:02:35.383 --> 00:02:38.473 and that's what I want to look at and read to you and we can continue. 27 00:03:00.809 --> 00:03:07.571 OK There are many reasons we want to murder you Norman at their passing his family 28 00:03:07.581 --> 00:03:14.092 have seen many expression of sympathy for those who knew and loved him to 29 00:03:14.102 --> 00:03:21.065 maintain is now we are aspire we are inspired to think bigger It was 30 00:03:21.075 --> 00:03:27.285 a suggestion that we consider and even more visible acknowledgment of his legacy 31 00:03:27.325 --> 00:03:32.855 with pursuing the petition and name the only street that every man lived on and his 32 00:03:32.895 --> 00:03:39.815 honor yes missed him yes Maria lived at 641 East Warren from birth until 33 00:03:39.825 --> 00:03:46.805 he joined the military up on his return to Freeport he met his Ernestine and the 34 00:03:46.815 --> 00:03:51.965 couple live that home on East Orange Street for the next 71 years. 35 00:03:53.165 --> 00:03:58.145 He and Ernestine live happily resident raising 3 children with 36 00:03:58.155 --> 00:04:01.175 a detached garage and a lady later built a family room in 37 00:04:01.185 --> 00:04:05.775 a back to dinner with gentle giant who at this time had 38 00:04:05.785 --> 00:04:07.905 a 10th grade education built a garage in 39 00:04:07.915 --> 00:04:13.055 a family room with his own hand and I still be in use today so basically right now 40 00:04:13.065 --> 00:04:19.065 what I'm going to do is touch on some of the residents 41 00:04:19.595 --> 00:04:26.227 whom wrote letters of support in honor of Mr Monroe do you Norman 42 00:04:27.618 --> 00:04:33.748 you have your own who are yours truly are Ross for 3rd Ward automated you have Mr 43 00:04:33.758 --> 00:04:35.338 and Mrs road to be a bank it's 44 00:04:35.798 --> 00:04:43.215 a Freeport you have. Lloyd 45 00:04:43.255 --> 00:04:50.110 Brumfiel. Oh Freeport but now you live in California you have Dan Heinie he 46 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:56.690 lived in Freeport he now lives in Florida you had James KATHY JACKSON of Freeport 47 00:04:56.700 --> 00:05:03.202 yet Tracy Johnson of Freeport you have. Calvin biggie Freeport Preston 48 00:05:03.212 --> 00:05:03.742 Pearson 49 00:05:03.912 --> 00:05:10.444 a former reporter now he lives in Dallas Texas. You have Paul it 50 00:05:10.454 --> 00:05:16.414 wimped I miss Freeport you have Patrick sellers report and you also have. 51 00:05:18.816 --> 00:05:25.149 The prepared housing authority that wrote their own resolution 52 00:05:26.802 --> 00:05:32.722 from and reference to Mr Merrill being Norman and it was signed by Jennifer Smith 53 00:05:32.902 --> 00:05:39.727 Norman Swan are no relation at all so in all reality 54 00:05:39.737 --> 00:05:46.300 with all due respect Mr Norman has 77 55 00:05:46.390 --> 00:05:53.175 percent of the support on the residents who lived in that street. You also 56 00:05:53.185 --> 00:05:59.945 had 51 percent Oh yeah record property owners and he has batted his eyes and his 57 00:06:00.275 --> 00:06:02.235 daughter has died her eyes cross a T. 58 00:06:02.475 --> 00:06:09.137 To see if we would honorary name or in street and honor her 59 00:06:09.147 --> 00:06:12.497 brother Thanks again and I really appreciate 60 00:06:18.359 --> 00:06:24.991 Mr JENNER. If I could just say if you are our guide talked about this and 61 00:06:25.451 --> 00:06:30.111 and I had the pleasure meet Mr Norman when I was about 14 and 62 00:06:30.121 --> 00:06:35.261 a half years old and workin in my dad's meat market he and the family used to come 63 00:06:35.271 --> 00:06:39.611 in every week. Merle was just one of those guys who was 64 00:06:39.621 --> 00:06:46.581 a nice guy in the world great family man. And as Arch said did so 65 00:06:46.591 --> 00:06:52.441 much in mentoring so member so many. Young people through the side record and 66 00:06:52.451 --> 00:06:58.871 through everything else also evident sports person excellent father and family man 67 00:06:59.201 --> 00:07:05.001 I mean just this guy just an all around great guy I would be in support of it make 68 00:07:05.011 --> 00:07:10.293 a motion to move forward 2nd and I'll 2nd that. We got 69 00:07:10.303 --> 00:07:11.793 a motion on the floor made by 70 00:07:11.803 --> 00:07:17.993 a woman client will give the 2nd all them an office all in favor Yeah. 71 00:07:20.063 --> 00:07:22.934 Mr Chair and the other company just had 72 00:07:22.944 --> 00:07:27.674 a couple of questions for alderman Ross 1st of all thank you for rubbering in this 73 00:07:27.834 --> 00:07:34.624 forward and it was preceded reading through all the documentation of the 74 00:07:34.634 --> 00:07:39.574 individuals in support of this it really kind of helped highlights why they were 75 00:07:39.614 --> 00:07:43.914 asking for this designation and I thought it was interesting to see kind of the 76 00:07:43.924 --> 00:07:47.264 broad graphic well. You know they have 77 00:07:47.274 --> 00:07:50.544 a lot of also all started out in Freeport but all the different areas of the 78 00:07:50.554 --> 00:07:55.764 country now these individuals who were making helping make its recommendation I was 79 00:07:55.774 --> 00:08:00.894 looking and I saw as you would indicated you need 51 percent. To sign 80 00:08:00.904 --> 00:08:06.204 a petition they had 14 of $183.00 of the 4 remaining slots I saw and there were 81 00:08:06.214 --> 00:08:11.394 Freeport Housing Authority slots so would that basically be covered by that 82 00:08:11.404 --> 00:08:16.244 resolution where they're proving it as well that the housing authority for those 3 83 00:08:16.254 --> 00:08:20.377 properties that are on that are supporting it as well that it's correct. 84 00:08:24.434 --> 00:08:31.096 The chairman did now chairman Jennifer Smith Norman she herself with her board 85 00:08:31.516 --> 00:08:32.016 came up with 86 00:08:32.026 --> 00:08:38.816 a resolution to. Write the letter to support and honor it and honor it 87 00:08:39.056 --> 00:08:44.496 them their board their board when honor it should so if those 3 Housing Authority 88 00:08:44.506 --> 00:08:49.476 properties are added to that number of the 17 of the 18 individual supporting it or 89 00:08:49.486 --> 00:08:56.118 that is your reporting thank us any 90 00:08:56.128 --> 00:09:02.978 other questions or comments all in favor of moving this on to the regularly 91 00:09:02.988 --> 00:09:08.239 scheduled meeting. And he opposed the motion carried 92 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:15.959 going on to number 8 discussion of 2018 contract services for monitoring of 93 00:09:15.969 --> 00:09:22.529 landfill numbers 23 and 4 from FAIR gram. Presentations but 94 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:24.069 they had 95 00:09:24.079 --> 00:09:29.969 a holder in Joe's irc and public director of public works director Denis car. 96 00:09:37.325 --> 00:09:42.857 Very good evening everyone my name is Joel's Oracle. I've been handling the 97 00:09:42.867 --> 00:09:47.167 landfill project for the city here for about the last 10 years or so so it's kind 98 00:09:47.177 --> 00:09:47.857 of that time 99 00:09:47.867 --> 00:09:53.627 a year. Where the services that would be needed to comply with the current permit 100 00:09:53.637 --> 00:09:57.487 are kind of it for you again but we thought with some of the changes at city hall 101 00:09:57.497 --> 00:09:59.917 that it would be good again to make a pressure presentation 102 00:09:59.927 --> 00:10:02.877 a sure you'll be short and sweet I won't get into 103 00:10:02.887 --> 00:10:07.497 a lot of gory detail but we just thought that that would be beneficial for all 104 00:10:07.507 --> 00:10:14.160 parties involved. I had the 16th on there for the last week obviously that 105 00:10:14.170 --> 00:10:20.361 changed dues of issues so just for everybody's benefit I'm assuming that everybody 106 00:10:20.371 --> 00:10:22.351 kind of a landfill is but it's down 107 00:10:22.361 --> 00:10:26.993 a wall street lamp. Not very far from the fairgrounds 108 00:10:29.464 --> 00:10:35.050 leading. We talked about the landfill really we're talking about 2 landfills 109 00:10:35.060 --> 00:10:40.800 technically 3 landfill $2.00 and $3.00 were the original permitted landfill so 110 00:10:40.810 --> 00:10:47.200 they're there they're in that triangular piece shaded in blue. They technically got 111 00:10:47.210 --> 00:10:50.850 combined together even though they were developed originally separately they're 112 00:10:50.860 --> 00:10:56.300 under the same permit today so I pretty much considers them one landfill 113 00:10:57.930 --> 00:11:03.210 landfill forest further to the north so that's the one that's much taller. That was 114 00:11:03.220 --> 00:11:08.660 more active in recent times and it's got an entirely separate permit. 115 00:11:11.491 --> 00:11:14.861 A few details about each landfill trying to keep it really simple but 116 00:11:14.871 --> 00:11:18.171 a lot of these things are also what's covered in the contract for some of the 117 00:11:18.181 --> 00:11:22.121 services but what we're really talking about is conformance with the existing 118 00:11:22.131 --> 00:11:23.561 permits so even though 119 00:11:23.571 --> 00:11:27.981 a landfill is closed in the state of Illinois it's still required to be permitted 120 00:11:28.321 --> 00:11:32.191 and there are still legal obligations to conform with that permit so that's 121 00:11:32.201 --> 00:11:37.311 a lot of what we're talking about here tonight is those things so landfill $2.00 122 00:11:37.321 --> 00:11:43.131 and $3.00 for everybody it opened in 1901 the post closure care period actually 123 00:11:43.141 --> 00:11:49.591 started October 15th of $87.00. Under that set of regulations the way those 124 00:11:49.601 --> 00:11:51.311 regulations are written that is normally 125 00:11:51.321 --> 00:11:57.901 a 15 year post closure period unless impacts are discovered which is what 126 00:11:57.911 --> 00:12:02.441 happened in this case we literally got to the last quarter of the last year and we 127 00:12:02.451 --> 00:12:09.201 started to see impacts and so that 15 year post closure period kind of went out the 128 00:12:09.211 --> 00:12:15.531 door when that occurred so since that time we have been in ground water and 129 00:12:16.031 --> 00:12:21.301 now Leach 8 monitoring groundwater monitoring has been going on for some time. Now 130 00:12:21.311 --> 00:12:27.601 we also are doing some monitoring as well. As the as the E.P.A. 131 00:12:27.611 --> 00:12:30.611 Is required. I will show a slight here in 132 00:12:30.621 --> 00:12:34.791 a minute so keep this buzzword of ground water management zone or G.M.C. 133 00:12:34.831 --> 00:12:38.961 Trying not to use too many acronyms I'll show you where that is and how that works 134 00:12:39.791 --> 00:12:43.811 but what that it effectively is is an area that's beyond the boundary of the 135 00:12:43.821 --> 00:12:48.831 landfill where if you have impacts to the shallow groundwater we're able to manage 136 00:12:48.841 --> 00:12:54.831 that and give it some area to naturally dissipate versus some kind of active 137 00:12:54.841 --> 00:12:59.391 cleanup so it's a very powerful tool and we've had that in play for 138 00:12:59.401 --> 00:13:05.462 a number of years now. Because of the impacts that we're seeing from landfill $2.00 139 00:13:05.472 --> 00:13:08.072 and $3.00 we did install a leach 140 00:13:08.082 --> 00:13:13.800 a recovery system so there are some. Some recovery wells out there that Paul leech 141 00:13:13.810 --> 00:13:20.421 ate out leech ate is is ground water mixed with you know what leeches out of the 142 00:13:20.431 --> 00:13:27.313 waste. And soul rest in that getting in labeled as Leach 8 but that 143 00:13:27.323 --> 00:13:33.844 recovery system discharges into the city sanitary sewer it's permitted to do so so 144 00:13:33.854 --> 00:13:39.124 there's not actually any treatment of that discharge at the landfill it simply goes 145 00:13:39.134 --> 00:13:45.904 into the city's current system which is able to handle. Some of the continued 146 00:13:45.914 --> 00:13:52.164 activities that we're required to do in this closure period is the is the maintain 147 00:13:52.174 --> 00:13:56.544 and operate the leach it recovery system we have the ground water monitoring on the 148 00:13:56.554 --> 00:14:02.194 reporting that has to go in on an annual basis and then we are also obligated to do 149 00:14:03.034 --> 00:14:08.654 periodic inspections of the landfill make sure that it's not cracking open or 150 00:14:08.664 --> 00:14:12.864 there's any erosion problems that all that stuff is being maintained Steen intact 151 00:14:14.024 --> 00:14:18.204 so on the map here you'll see those 3 landfills again and you'll see kind of the 152 00:14:18.244 --> 00:14:23.064 blue shaded area that's what we call the ground water management zone so that's 153 00:14:23.074 --> 00:14:24.604 been invoked for a for quite 154 00:14:24.614 --> 00:14:29.044 a while and so we have some good downgrading of monitoring wells that we watch that 155 00:14:29.054 --> 00:14:34.264 are near the creek that as long as those stay clean we really don't have any major 156 00:14:34.274 --> 00:14:40.154 issues with the agency and they have now stayed that way for 13 or 14 years so we 157 00:14:40.164 --> 00:14:46.154 feel confident that that much real estate does allow things to dissipate. As 158 00:14:46.204 --> 00:14:52.294 a couple that along with the recovery system we're keeping things under control so 159 00:14:52.304 --> 00:14:57.511 they don't get any worse or make and some slow headway. Landfill 4 so that's the 160 00:14:57.521 --> 00:15:04.031 more recent landfill Ridgeley is permit in 1906 little bit more. Modern 161 00:15:04.041 --> 00:15:05.751 landfill and that the liner on it is 162 00:15:05.761 --> 00:15:11.661 a combination of clay and just synthetic liner kind of a basically 163 00:15:11.961 --> 00:15:15.220 a heavy plastic. It does also have 164 00:15:15.230 --> 00:15:18.670 a leach it recovery system in it what you can think of basically 165 00:15:18.680 --> 00:15:23.770 a sewer system underneath the landfill that allows the leach 8 that I kind of 166 00:15:23.780 --> 00:15:28.080 mentioned that buzzword it collects in that pipe system and it's piped into the 167 00:15:28.090 --> 00:15:34.880 city sanitary sewer system so once again it's collected the existing wastewater 168 00:15:34.890 --> 00:15:40.520 treatment system is able to handle the treatment of that. Because landfill actually 169 00:15:40.530 --> 00:15:41.090 has a G.O.C. 170 00:15:41.260 --> 00:15:47.310 That it kept so it's the that was done back in 2013 actually was done prior to that 171 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.890 then we actually got toward a closure in 13 so it's 172 00:15:49.900 --> 00:15:53.740 a plastic kind of cover it's all seem to gather it's all permanent through the 173 00:15:53.750 --> 00:15:55.060 state we had 174 00:15:55.070 --> 00:16:00.450 a fall quality assurance requirements when it was constructed there's probably 175 00:16:00.460 --> 00:16:04.380 a few of you remember that there was a concept back a number of years ago of 176 00:16:04.390 --> 00:16:09.420 a fight OK app which was putting some hybrid poplar trees on top of the landfill to 177 00:16:09.430 --> 00:16:14.280 act as an alternative cap I think Alderman Clem probably remembers that that was 178 00:16:14.290 --> 00:16:19.630 probably around his time in his tenure and that was a kind of 179 00:16:19.640 --> 00:16:24.500 a research and development type of regulation that the agency had unfortunate thing 180 00:16:24.510 --> 00:16:28.370 is it had a 12 year period that it sunset it and then it also had 181 00:16:28.380 --> 00:16:31.350 a period if they didn't like the performance they could force you to pull it off at 182 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:32.500 any time and replace it with 183 00:16:32.510 --> 00:16:36.470 a conventional cap so I did come before this council number your sicko and setting 184 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.380 good good conscience I can't recommend going forth with something that sounds neat 185 00:16:40.610 --> 00:16:44.220 but may not perform the way it should and would have some long term risk for the 186 00:16:44.230 --> 00:16:45.500 city so we went with 187 00:16:45.510 --> 00:16:52.450 a conventional Geos and that cap. Final closure was issued on 2013 188 00:16:52.460 --> 00:16:57.160 and December so that's when that 30 year post closure period technically started 189 00:16:57.390 --> 00:16:59.280 with this landfill is 190 00:16:59.290 --> 00:17:03.620 a newer set of regulations so it's in its permit in those regulations it is 191 00:17:03.630 --> 00:17:05.200 obligated to for 192 00:17:05.210 --> 00:17:11.170 a 30 year post closure period so that started in December of 13 with this landfill 193 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:15.529 we're also doing annual monitoring some preventive main. It's so same kind of 194 00:17:15.539 --> 00:17:19.259 situation you know the ground water monitoring well as we test those we have some 195 00:17:19.269 --> 00:17:23.269 reports they have to go in we also test the leach 8 that's in the leach collection 196 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.279 system we don't have any active pumps there it's strictly 197 00:17:26.289 --> 00:17:27.719 a gravity system so that's 198 00:17:27.729 --> 00:17:32.920 a little lower maintenance we do unlike landfill $2.00 and $3.00 we also have do 199 00:17:32.930 --> 00:17:38.510 gas monitoring at this particular landfill it does generate weave into my garbage 200 00:17:38.770 --> 00:17:44.270 does generate methane and we've been doing that since 2013 we were doing that on 201 00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:49.630 a monthly basis now we're down to quarterly based on we've done it for 5 years and 202 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:55.100 so the permit and the regulations allow us to reduce that so we are reducing that 203 00:17:55.110 --> 00:18:00.280 and then there are periodic inspections big issue there's erosion making sure 204 00:18:00.290 --> 00:18:04.910 there's no seeps no breakage in the in the cap or any other problems that if an 205 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:09.660 inspector showed up would raise concern for them so that in 206 00:18:09.670 --> 00:18:15.270 a nutshell is kind of the Freeport landfill and what it does. Again I'm Joel's 207 00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:21.081 Urquell with an L. On the I'm not Joe emails up there which I think you have 208 00:18:21.091 --> 00:18:25.041 a copy of this in your packet so as always you can call me can e-mail me about any 209 00:18:25.051 --> 00:18:27.021 questions you might have with a landfill that is 210 00:18:27.031 --> 00:18:33.173 a super fast over but when you look at the proposal that I think Adam will be able 211 00:18:33.183 --> 00:18:39.553 to stick around for. You'll see more details of those things that I kind of touched 212 00:18:39.563 --> 00:18:45.375 on in this presentation there actually broken down in more detail for you. Are 213 00:18:45.385 --> 00:18:52.229 there any questions I know I covered that really quick All right well thank you 214 00:18:52.239 --> 00:18:56.980 very much for your time. And he questions comments you know I just wanted to say 215 00:18:56.990 --> 00:19:02.130 Joel thank you for the work you guys have done on mine during this over the years I 216 00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:06.080 know it's it's something that you know you're kind of thrown 217 00:19:06.090 --> 00:19:10.360 a dart it's like keeps on moving because every time you get to where you think you 218 00:19:10.370 --> 00:19:16.050 might not have to worry about it some house comes it comes up but. Basically what 219 00:19:16.060 --> 00:19:22.470 you're saying is as we stand right now. Everything right no major crisis I 220 00:19:23.261 --> 00:19:23.641 think is 221 00:19:23.901 --> 00:19:32.055 a lock for at least. Greg. Any 222 00:19:32.065 --> 00:19:38.347 other discussion. I guess will business later on 223 00:19:40.760 --> 00:19:46.091 the next meeting. Do we need motion to move forward for sure 224 00:19:46.131 --> 00:19:49.982 a 2nd so I could. Get 225 00:19:49.992 --> 00:19:56.802 a motion by Tom. Seconded by Peter McLennan and. Favor 226 00:19:56.982 --> 00:20:00.912 saying 5 thing on. Any opposed motion carried. 227 00:20:03.653 --> 00:20:08.733 Discussion of engineering evaluation from I P I E.P.A. 228 00:20:08.893 --> 00:20:15.431 And you'll get medical. Cross Connection survey. Presented by 229 00:20:16.311 --> 00:20:23.241 Tom Clancy and your crew OK thank you Alderman busker basically early part of 230 00:20:23.251 --> 00:20:28.581 November received communication from the contact of Illinois I.P.A. 231 00:20:28.911 --> 00:20:33.821 That they wanted to do an engineering evaluation and engineering event we wish and 232 00:20:33.831 --> 00:20:40.751 is similar to like. A physical exam and appointment scheduled paperwork is 233 00:20:40.761 --> 00:20:42.311 filled out then there is 234 00:20:42.321 --> 00:20:48.491 a signed visit that takes place and when the site visit takes place they go and 235 00:20:48.501 --> 00:20:54.881 interview staff they looked at our water treatment plant the elevated tanks all of 236 00:20:54.891 --> 00:20:59.871 our structures they looked at our paperwork the paperwork from the laboratory as 237 00:20:59.881 --> 00:21:06.791 far as the testing that is performed daily weekly monthly and that to make sure 238 00:21:06.801 --> 00:21:12.922 that the testing that we're supposed to do has been done there has not been any 239 00:21:12.932 --> 00:21:19.932 violations or things out of parameters and basically this was done the walk through 240 00:21:19.942 --> 00:21:23.642 was done November 30th it was approximately 4 and 241 00:21:23.652 --> 00:21:28.642 a half hour walk through met with staff and. 242 00:21:30.530 --> 00:21:32.820 In addition to that there was also 243 00:21:33.230 --> 00:21:40.150 a close out on the water main project over on Empire street so that way the 244 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:44.450 books could be closed on that to work with and we could start paying the phones 245 00:21:44.970 --> 00:21:49.210 back for the loan that was taken and then just to make sure that the work done 246 00:21:49.220 --> 00:21:55.240 according to the spec so that was you know part of their act in the letter that was 247 00:21:55.250 --> 00:22:00.920 received that was sent out to some for 13 there's $45.00 days to go and respond to 248 00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:06.450 it and one of the items was in there is that there is supposed to be discussion and 249 00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:11.870 that's what we're having now so the takeaway after this. There will be 250 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:17.880 a letter going back to I P A that the discussion was held and some of the items 251 00:22:17.890 --> 00:22:23.470 that have been mentioned in here will be sent to them as to what's been done one of 252 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:26.060 the items that was brought up was labeled 253 00:22:26.070 --> 00:22:31.190 a deficiency and what it was it was about the wells numbers to 254 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:36.750 a number 6 that were taken out of service proximately February of last year when 255 00:22:36.760 --> 00:22:38.780 the wells were taken out of service there's 256 00:22:38.790 --> 00:22:44.460 a certain amount of time were then they have to be kept and abandoned with the. 257 00:22:46.481 --> 00:22:51.061 Before you the early part of the month for the capping the wells which you approved 258 00:22:51.821 --> 00:22:58.391 for amounts of approximately $50000.00 we can then forward to them 259 00:22:58.781 --> 00:23:02.181 that. The There was 260 00:23:02.191 --> 00:23:06.321 a bid that one out it was open it was approved by the board and now we're waiting 261 00:23:06.331 --> 00:23:11.281 for the action from the contractor to begin work and I spoke with the contractor 262 00:23:11.481 --> 00:23:14.591 late part of the week and they're going to be starting this week and getting that 263 00:23:14.601 --> 00:23:16.631 task done so with it being 264 00:23:16.641 --> 00:23:22.500 a deficiency. It's being addressed and you know that's 265 00:23:22.510 --> 00:23:27.990 a good thing there there's other items that I'll talk about later specifically on 266 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:34.670 page 6 that. Wants. Communication about 267 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:41.220 a survey for backflow prevention going back to the start of the form. 268 00:23:42.790 --> 00:23:43.220 It's 269 00:23:43.230 --> 00:23:49.900 a report that was sent from them to us highlighting what took place on November 270 00:23:49.910 --> 00:23:56.550 30th who was interviewed by previous predecessor. Downing 271 00:23:56.870 --> 00:24:03.640 the lead operator Mr 0 and myself the engineering evaluations take place 272 00:24:03.650 --> 00:24:08.660 approximately every 3 years 92 percent of the time Mr Glendenning was there and I 273 00:24:08.670 --> 00:24:13.950 was here proximately percent of the time that's why he was involved and basically 274 00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:21.690 the contact wanted to know what has taken place within the last 3 years and the 275 00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:26.400 and you know questions were asked the answers were given to her satisfaction we 276 00:24:26.410 --> 00:24:33.392 also provided data as far as our flow rates and other information there 277 00:24:33.432 --> 00:24:40.242 and also what we plan to do in the future to move our system forward so basically 278 00:24:40.252 --> 00:24:46.733 that. There is the discussion was also had as to we're looking to go get the test 279 00:24:46.743 --> 00:24:51.033 walls we're looking to go and get you know new water production facilities so 280 00:24:51.043 --> 00:24:57.183 that's all part of that and the record keeping was looked over and things 281 00:24:57.963 --> 00:25:04.513 you know met to their satisfaction in. You know their response to us the other item 282 00:25:04.523 --> 00:25:10.493 I want to bring up that I mentioned is the backflow preventer Use Survey Cross 283 00:25:10.503 --> 00:25:17.230 Connection survey. There are certain it instances when you 284 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:22.170 may be having something going on in your house like a nail salon or 285 00:25:22.180 --> 00:25:27.910 a funeral home to worry you can potentially. Introduce. 286 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:34.791 Toxic chemicals into the water system and that's what you do not want to do 287 00:25:35.541 --> 00:25:42.291 basically with industries. There are in the permitting and design phase that's 288 00:25:42.301 --> 00:25:46.821 already called out but there is that one or 2 occasion we're at 289 00:25:46.831 --> 00:25:53.191 a residence something like that could go on take place so I have a. You know 290 00:25:53.201 --> 00:25:59.661 a little website page. I'm looking to have included in with the bills 291 00:26:00.101 --> 00:26:00.811 and as far as 292 00:26:00.821 --> 00:26:06.841 a survey and then the corresponding section of the municipal code that talks about 293 00:26:06.851 --> 00:26:13.513 Cross Connection cross connections one thing with the there's number of F A 294 00:26:13.523 --> 00:26:14.923 Q's and 295 00:26:15.343 --> 00:26:20.433 a little background as to why it is we're sending out the survey and I'm going to 296 00:26:20.443 --> 00:26:27.243 look to have it on line and as well as stuff for and each water bill going 297 00:26:27.253 --> 00:26:34.073 out in February and basically some of the items like your Which best describe your 298 00:26:34.083 --> 00:26:40.513 facility residential house multi family unit industry government building 299 00:26:41.083 --> 00:26:42.113 so it would be 300 00:26:42.123 --> 00:26:48.453 a drop down on the website but then we would have listed what the 45 items would be 301 00:26:48.493 --> 00:26:53.230 and then you would just circle it do you have an air geisha insists. That's 302 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:58.580 a simple yes or no do you have fire protection system yes or no so on and so forth 303 00:26:58.590 --> 00:27:02.060 for the other $34.00 items and then there would be 304 00:27:02.070 --> 00:27:07.800 a spot for any communication you want to give us also 305 00:27:08.390 --> 00:27:14.710 the. Distal information name address other points of contact 306 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:21.542 information. This is taken and modified from the previous community I 307 00:27:21.552 --> 00:27:28.012 worked in since I had to do the similar situation when I had my 308 00:27:28.022 --> 00:27:34.234 previous engineering evaluation like in 2014 so of already gone through this 309 00:27:36.356 --> 00:27:43.249 and that's. About all I have just 310 00:27:43.259 --> 00:27:48.259 for the council's information these items they talk about Waters from other source 311 00:27:48.269 --> 00:27:53.709 fire protection and use or water under the current plumbing codes from the state 312 00:27:53.719 --> 00:27:55.709 and also the city here acquired 313 00:27:55.719 --> 00:28:00.759 a vacuum flow preventer so that when you you don't contaminate not only your water 314 00:28:00.769 --> 00:28:05.099 source but the city's water source if they're involved in this so that's one of the 315 00:28:05.109 --> 00:28:10.821 reasons why those questions are on their own assessment. 316 00:28:13.072 --> 00:28:13.462 So 317 00:28:13.562 --> 00:28:19.832 a director capacity. Is it required or are we looking at requiring every residential 318 00:28:20.255 --> 00:28:21.375 property owner to have 319 00:28:21.385 --> 00:28:27.195 a back blow prevention device is that standard protocol in the industry Well what 320 00:28:27.205 --> 00:28:28.435 we're looking to go and do is get 321 00:28:28.445 --> 00:28:34.485 a survey to see if there are instances in residences 322 00:28:34.925 --> 00:28:36.585 were there would be a need for 323 00:28:36.595 --> 00:28:43.449 a lot. Of it's not so so essentially 324 00:28:43.489 --> 00:28:49.379 if you're operating a business within your home where you may by chance introduce 325 00:28:49.389 --> 00:28:54.349 a contaminant into the system that's the application where back low prevents advice 326 00:28:54.359 --> 00:29:00.371 would be. Appropriate not in every instance well. Like for 327 00:29:00.901 --> 00:29:07.731 regular homeowner you wouldn't. Think Are there would not be 328 00:29:07.931 --> 00:29:12.751 instances where there would be some type of back flow although it could go on 329 00:29:12.761 --> 00:29:18.862 happen and when would when would the potential arise for because we all know we 330 00:29:18.872 --> 00:29:23.584 have positive pressure on our on the flow of water coming into our homes but I'd 331 00:29:24.014 --> 00:29:30.338 surmise then that if there's huge demand. On The System in proximity to your home 332 00:29:30.348 --> 00:29:34.758 that could create the opposite scenario there would be open the valve you'd be 333 00:29:34.768 --> 00:29:36.458 sucking a lot of air as opposed to getting 334 00:29:36.468 --> 00:29:41.338 a lot of water that's correct or you may be using some device like maybe 335 00:29:41.348 --> 00:29:47.208 a pressure washer were instead the pressure or the flow of water go out of the gun 336 00:29:47.338 --> 00:29:52.720 could somehow go back feed back into the system if you have 337 00:29:52.730 --> 00:29:59.672 a malfunctioning device Mr Cho. One of the 338 00:29:59.712 --> 00:30:04.852 biggest things for these Bobs or where you really see see where they were started 339 00:30:04.862 --> 00:30:10.392 is basically with. Homes that have boy boilers in them and kind of the 340 00:30:10.402 --> 00:30:15.142 contamination of the system and using automatic feeds and everything to there's 341 00:30:15.152 --> 00:30:19.503 pressure there all the time so that's really then now is 342 00:30:19.513 --> 00:30:22.213 a number of years ago that they started out and then if you have 343 00:30:22.223 --> 00:30:24.593 a backlog preventer basically once 344 00:30:24.603 --> 00:30:29.893 a year you have to have it tested to make sure that it works OK and that's done by 345 00:30:30.173 --> 00:30:30.483 there's 346 00:30:30.493 --> 00:30:35.693 a bunch of plumbers in town that are that are qualified to do that so that's kind 347 00:30:35.703 --> 00:30:40.753 of where it comes from so it isn't anything that's really jumping up today we're 348 00:30:40.763 --> 00:30:45.233 just trying to see if there had been proactive to see if there are any under item 349 00:30:45.243 --> 00:30:52.091 somebody may have out there that could cause an issue. J.S. 350 00:30:52.101 --> 00:30:57.321 Another question on when I see and hear the stuff from Neil NY. 351 00:30:59.091 --> 00:31:05.861 And I know I can remember when Marigot or up was here and some follow up from 352 00:31:05.871 --> 00:31:12.411 then on Dylan I was usually pretty good to work with are they still are they 353 00:31:13.141 --> 00:31:18.891 all I've had nothing but up positive experiences with them here and in my previous 354 00:31:18.901 --> 00:31:25.311 community I. Had an engineering evaluation last June and then I had 355 00:31:25.631 --> 00:31:32.471 one here November and you know the way I look at it is if you preplan have the 356 00:31:32.481 --> 00:31:36.011 paperwork ready they'll send you basically 357 00:31:36.051 --> 00:31:41.561 a laundry list of what it is they're looking for the smoother or the more prepared 358 00:31:41.571 --> 00:31:48.115 you are the smoother or go. Thank you appreciate the switcher. 359 00:31:49.380 --> 00:31:52.230 On the thank you so pretty much with 360 00:31:52.810 --> 00:31:57.110 a bottom line we took care of the deficiencies in the process take care of things 361 00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:02.180 they said the deficiency with capping the well that's correct with having the bid 362 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:08.990 go out. Having them accepted with the board approving it and. Have heard 363 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:13.750 from the successful better that they plan to be out Wednesday or Thursday of this 364 00:32:13.760 --> 00:32:19.630 week start the project and look to have the project complete by April 1st so the 365 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.970 letter that go back to I.P.S. 366 00:32:21.980 --> 00:32:24.650 That you know all include like 367 00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:28.880 a copy of the meeting minutes that this was approved and we're just waiting for the 368 00:32:28.890 --> 00:32:34.380 work to commence and be complete and the other 2 recommendations namely long term 369 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:41.580 replacements of mains as well as the monitoring and addressing the unaccounted 370 00:32:41.590 --> 00:32:48.390 water are also. Under way and it would be 371 00:32:48.690 --> 00:32:55.410 part of the capital improvement budgets in conjunction with the street so that has 372 00:32:55.420 --> 00:33:00.480 been identified and we're plugging in where exactly where we should go and then how 373 00:33:00.490 --> 00:33:06.640 this fits in with both the low in the high pressure zone and what the needs are for 374 00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:12.930 water main replacement And finally Mr Chair for good. For the average 375 00:33:12.940 --> 00:33:16.660 residents in that they're going through this survey and they're like I don't know 376 00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:16.880 if I have 377 00:33:16.890 --> 00:33:23.764 a backflow preventer. Are they going to look into that well things if you have it 378 00:33:23.774 --> 00:33:29.816 you know you have it and if you don't you don't home for those that have because I 379 00:33:29.826 --> 00:33:29.946 have 380 00:33:29.956 --> 00:33:34.306 a spy system it should be something above the ground right and there should be 381 00:33:34.316 --> 00:33:39.666 a clean out right near it you should see it come out so they can get it back and 382 00:33:39.706 --> 00:33:44.626 get a cog or it's in your house backflow preventer and or have 383 00:33:44.636 --> 00:33:50.051 a filter system the can unscrew and clean it out right in your direction. And it's 384 00:33:50.061 --> 00:33:55.911 very early law and he has really brought us along and I'm. Going to win usually. 385 00:33:57.001 --> 00:34:01.701 With him and then also with that is that you know if anyone has any questions there 386 00:34:01.711 --> 00:34:08.411 I'm sure you know we have our contact information and your any of the other staff 387 00:34:08.421 --> 00:34:14.291 can look you know provide additional information to help them navigate through that 388 00:34:14.291 --> 00:34:19.887 . And other questions comments. 389 00:34:24.049 --> 00:34:30.660 See anyone you know so we're do is show that the 390 00:34:30.730 --> 00:34:32.460 minutes that we've had 391 00:34:32.470 --> 00:34:40.032 a discussion and counsel. And forward that with the letter. All 392 00:34:40.042 --> 00:34:47.014 right. With that will come to the public comments seeing none 393 00:34:48.497 --> 00:34:48.857 entertain 394 00:34:48.867 --> 00:34:54.422 a motion to adjourn will move. We've got 395 00:34:55.422 --> 00:35:01.202 a man keester with the motion on the one Smith with the 2nd all in favor all right 396 00:35:01.502 --> 00:35:03.574 and he opposed ocean Kerry. 397 00:35:18.046 --> 00:35:24.709 So important I think you're. Going to. 398 00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:32.829 Hear you know oh yeah I've heard it but I mean I didn't work. There but I 399 00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:33.489 told. 400 00:35:40.867 --> 00:35:42.647 You you know when you're in the room where you get.