1 00:00:03,29 --> 00:00:08,99 I'm going to call the Parks and Rec meeting to order it is November seventeenth 2 00:00:09,04 --> 00:00:14,97 twenty fifteen can you speak overall Mr Berger is this kind of him the German 3 00:00:16,05 --> 00:00:21,86 misadventure here Miss Lemark Mr play this present Miss Miss 4 00:00:23,75 --> 00:00:30,56 councilman Jones here by chairwoman Davis here chairwoman much there can I 5 00:00:30,57 --> 00:00:30,87 have 6 00:00:30,88 --> 00:00:39,11 a motive to excuse Miss Smith Miss German and miss on our assignment. I 7 00:00:39,12 --> 00:00:45,97 was like Can you please come home the second is I didn't see. Mr Berger 8 00:00:46,01 --> 00:00:52,08 Yes you Cunningham Yes because the major Yes Mr play this councilman JONES Yes 9 00:00:52,32 --> 00:00:58,76 Chairman Davis Yes chairwoman last. We have some minutes to 10 00:00:58,77 --> 00:01:05,02 approve. But we have a. Kind of 11 00:01:05,03 --> 00:01:11,38 a motion to approve the minutes from our August eighteenth meeting of the group Al 12 00:01:11,39 --> 00:01:17,79 said can you call me. Mr Blecher Yes Miss 13 00:01:17,80 --> 00:01:23,22 Cunningham get the tinder Yes Mr Platonists Yes councilman JONES Yes Vice Chairman 14 00:01:23,23 --> 00:01:29,02 Davis Yes chairwoman last. Can I have 15 00:01:29,06 --> 00:01:31,75 a motion to approve the meeting on 16 00:01:31,76 --> 00:01:36,52 a number fifteen. Motion to prove. 17 00:01:39,69 --> 00:01:43,49 Some of them for you. We have 18 00:01:43,50 --> 00:01:49,78 a motion that permits it means or to approve of and for some purpose and second and 19 00:01:49,82 --> 00:01:56,40 let. You call please Mr Bercow this coming yes McKibben You are 20 00:01:57,09 --> 00:02:02,93 yes the supply this Councilman Jim yes face Chairman Davis Yes chairwoman LACH. 21 00:02:04,98 --> 00:02:10,22 And then can I have motions to approve the meeting minutes from October twenty 22 00:02:10,23 --> 00:02:15,45 eighth. Both of them. I think the second. 23 00:02:17,97 --> 00:02:23,41 Mr Berger says Cunningham Yes missive injure Yes Mr ploy that's yes Councilman you 24 00:02:23,42 --> 00:02:30,11 can just say chairwoman Davis Yes chairwoman last Yeah OK 25 00:02:30,47 --> 00:02:32,30 moving on to I've got 26 00:02:32,31 --> 00:02:37,39 a number of the quick public comments just like we have any event so we will move 27 00:02:37,40 --> 00:02:39,56 on to the update from the want. 28 00:02:46,77 --> 00:02:50,50 Good evening. If you haven't you. 29 00:02:56,83 --> 00:03:03,56 I remember once in the Y.M.C.A. . This is math I hope that type of spend with the Y. 30 00:03:03,57 --> 00:03:09,29 Here in Delaware since the beginning actually was here before it was even opened up 31 00:03:09,49 --> 00:03:10,23 here so he was 32 00:03:10,24 --> 00:03:16,07 a big piece of getting things started in the North Branch mass handled the 33 00:03:17,07 --> 00:03:21,24 membership items he's also part of all these initiatives you guys have been able 34 00:03:21,25 --> 00:03:23,90 about to get and then think that So is there 35 00:03:24,44 --> 00:03:29,96 a big part of the team for us in helping us serve the community in the best way 36 00:03:29,97 --> 00:03:35,48 possible I'm very fortunate to have worked with him as long as I have met will be 37 00:03:35,49 --> 00:03:40,92 leaving us in December. So I'm going let me. Talk 38 00:03:40,93 --> 00:03:46,12 a little bit eleventh how much I appreciate what he has done not just for the one. 39 00:03:47,83 --> 00:03:54,73 He knows how much it means to work with his partners. The community members sort of 40 00:03:54,74 --> 00:04:00,15 the. Clone I mean real and so formal This was. 41 00:04:01,66 --> 00:04:07,72 It wasn't me. I'd want to say thank you for the opportunity obviously to work here 42 00:04:07,72 --> 00:04:12,72 . Leaving Delaware actually has been a lot more of 43 00:04:12,73 --> 00:04:16,91 a difficult decision that I thought it was going. Getting to know the people here 44 00:04:16,92 --> 00:04:22,18 getting to experience the city and getting to work with amazing staff at the Y. 45 00:04:22,19 --> 00:04:27,46 And also with our city partners has been phenomenal for me I am very excited about 46 00:04:27,47 --> 00:04:32,30 the next opportunity that I have I think having experienced as much as I have had 47 00:04:32,31 --> 00:04:37,95 here is going to really help me immensely in my next role and I have every 48 00:04:37,96 --> 00:04:44,13 intention of coming back I'm going to go to the jug I swear everybody there first 49 00:04:44,14 --> 00:04:50,40 Fridays and the restaurants here you know near and dear to my heart of course but I 50 00:04:50,41 --> 00:04:53,60 do want to say thank you for the opportunity of course to be 51 00:04:53,61 --> 00:04:57,08 a part of Delaware and obviously serve you know in the role in the capacity that I 52 00:04:57,09 --> 00:04:58,39 have I think Delaware has 53 00:04:58,40 --> 00:05:03,06 a ton of potential still the why it's doing great things our membership is 54 00:05:03,07 --> 00:05:07,80 continuing to grow I'm working on an initiative right now that will outline our 55 00:05:07,81 --> 00:05:13,14 membership plan for the next year and I have no plan of not finishing it if anybody 56 00:05:13,15 --> 00:05:17,64 knows the type of person I am I don't leave things on done so I have every inch to 57 00:05:17,65 --> 00:05:22,14 finishing that initiative and outlining it for the staff before I leave so I do 58 00:05:22,15 --> 00:05:25,69 want to say thank you so much for the chance to work with everybody here in 59 00:05:25,70 --> 00:05:31,37 Delaware. Things now. 60 00:05:33,17 --> 00:05:36,80 I'm going to highlight just a couple things that are on the Y.M.C.A. 61 00:05:36,81 --> 00:05:42,10 And Recreation service part of this tonight number one the healthy when your child 62 00:05:42,11 --> 00:05:45,82 I don't know if Jimmy talked about this last time enough but on the central the 63 00:05:45,83 --> 00:05:46,41 Y.M.C.A. Is 64 00:05:46,42 --> 00:05:51,90 a central while there are four branches picked. You know we were actually the 65 00:05:51,91 --> 00:05:52,24 Y.M.C.A. 66 00:05:52,25 --> 00:05:56,33 Of Central High was one of five in the country that were able to be the first part 67 00:05:56,34 --> 00:06:00,59 of this healthy when your child program so we were one of the pilot programs that 68 00:06:00,60 --> 00:06:04,33 Kath be able to do this we were able to do this because of our success with the 69 00:06:04,34 --> 00:06:08,04 diabetes prevention programs that we've had over the last couple years but it's 70 00:06:08,05 --> 00:06:12,92 great programs for children ages seven to thirteen Is it no cost to them or their 71 00:06:12,93 --> 00:06:14,64 families but to get them into the Y. 72 00:06:14,65 --> 00:06:14,86 For 73 00:06:14,87 --> 00:06:19,79 a year they meet weekly the first three months they meet every other week the next 74 00:06:19,80 --> 00:06:24,36 three months on site four months and then every other week the next four months in 75 00:06:24,37 --> 00:06:26,17 the month for the last four months there is 76 00:06:26,18 --> 00:06:31,25 a program for that and their parents just obviously talks about nutrition being 77 00:06:31,26 --> 00:06:32,91 active on the get together in 78 00:06:32,92 --> 00:06:36,93 a group for about an hour and then the kids go do activity for about an hour under 79 00:06:36,94 --> 00:06:43,06 the. Human bill including the training did they go they go this is meant to be. 80 00:06:45,33 --> 00:06:50,06 Something that. Maybe your replacement will remember this. 81 00:06:56,58 --> 00:06:57,59 But it's 82 00:06:57,60 --> 00:07:01,16 a great program so we're very fortunate to have that and I just want people know 83 00:07:01,17 --> 00:07:05,09 about it because we will hopefully get things worked out where insurance and other 84 00:07:05,10 --> 00:07:09,08 things will take care of this portion of this taking care so that we continue to 85 00:07:09,09 --> 00:07:12,14 offer it either at no charge cost to the participant or 86 00:07:12,15 --> 00:07:16,57 a very minimal cost to the participant so we want to keep this going but Tom it is 87 00:07:16,57 --> 00:07:22,73 . The child has been the one fifth percentile of obesity and has to be recommended 88 00:07:22,74 --> 00:07:29,72 from. The. Yeah medical care for fish 89 00:07:29,86 --> 00:07:36,17 cats Oh you're back yeah it's back yes cats really. Well even when 90 00:07:36,99 --> 00:07:37,63 OK so that's 91 00:07:37,64 --> 00:07:40,75 a healthy weight in your child program the other thing you don't want to mention 92 00:07:40,76 --> 00:07:45,97 because it's new on November fourteenth where the indoor soccer term and I'm 93 00:07:45,98 --> 00:07:51,01 a don't know the numbers on that one yet but you know what you would have enough to 94 00:07:51,02 --> 00:07:54,64 have I think there were about five or six teams signed up so for the first year to 95 00:07:54,65 --> 00:08:01,02 have that many teams to at least do the turn minutes up was great so he's the guard 96 00:08:01,03 --> 00:08:05,38 Jim and I'm sure Jim will have more to talk about that but it's nice to know that 97 00:08:05,39 --> 00:08:09,14 we have the partnership with the garden and utilizing that space there was new 98 00:08:09,15 --> 00:08:13,55 programs as well our military to but most of the stuff except for down to the 99 00:08:13,56 --> 00:08:20,23 special events. Called the North Pole are coming up here and December tenth if 100 00:08:20,24 --> 00:08:23,98 anyone wants to help with that would love to have the help on our team leaders 101 00:08:23,99 --> 00:08:29,51 makes make calls as elves and some of our board members and part of Roger's Youth 102 00:08:29,52 --> 00:08:36,13 Development Committee they end up calling as Santa or Mrs Santa. They do some of 103 00:08:36,14 --> 00:08:39,08 those calls themselves as well so if anybody wants to help out with that would love 104 00:08:39,09 --> 00:08:43,61 to have it and also I think anybody that was able to make to how we parted we had 105 00:08:43,62 --> 00:08:48,93 good weather till about six o'clock so the first couple hours maybe six thirty our 106 00:08:48,94 --> 00:08:54,39 first couple hours went really well written a lot of downsizing and had 107 00:08:54,40 --> 00:09:00,03 a lot of ended up having the bouncy houses and such inside because we knew the bad 108 00:09:00,04 --> 00:09:03,11 weather was coming but even with a little dampness it was 109 00:09:03,12 --> 00:09:06,61 a great event other people out there and then the last thing we do have 110 00:09:07,46 --> 00:09:14,39 a. Coed volleyball tournament coming up where the proceeds go to our lives from 111 00:09:14,40 --> 00:09:19,54 program which. We are collecting money this time of the year we kind of raise money 112 00:09:19,55 --> 00:09:24,83 to do two live strong classes in two thousand and sixteen these are at no cost to 113 00:09:24,84 --> 00:09:28,62 the cancer survivor to come in take a twelve week class with the best and we have 114 00:09:28,63 --> 00:09:32,29 a couple staff that work with them and get them back to feeling normal again 115 00:09:32,30 --> 00:09:36,20 physically and mentally and emotionally snow another great cause there that we're 116 00:09:36,21 --> 00:09:40,29 doing but that program will happen on November twenty second so if anyone's 117 00:09:40,30 --> 00:09:41,19 interested in putting 118 00:09:41,20 --> 00:09:48,89 a team together we have to do register you know the why. And 119 00:09:48,90 --> 00:09:55,67 that's all of us. I would use the 120 00:09:55,68 --> 00:10:01,10 American role obviously they're in an aftermath. 121 00:10:03,03 --> 00:10:07,38 I think you probably know where. And. 122 00:10:10,16 --> 00:10:10,96 Twenty three people. 123 00:10:19,66 --> 00:10:26,50 And their microphone Thank you. I'm sure my question. Conversation with Jackie walk 124 00:10:26,51 --> 00:10:29,21 into the man management agreement the city it's 125 00:10:29,22 --> 00:10:35,23 a monthly the program you know the management agreement between the city the 126 00:10:35,24 --> 00:10:35,92 Y.M.C.A. 127 00:10:36,28 --> 00:10:41,56 Which is due October fifteenth of each year the program report is what I'm thinking 128 00:10:41,57 --> 00:10:45,50 it is it's a new money we get new has like numbers and different things the has 129 00:10:45,51 --> 00:10:50,02 a finance manager numbers on the right thing yeah I was on my bed same thing I got 130 00:10:50,12 --> 00:10:57,03 your. OK Yes I actually have got it today I'm going to 131 00:10:57,04 --> 00:11:01,100 review it tonight I emailed Jackie and she will have it tomorrow by new so about 132 00:11:02,01 --> 00:11:08,99 the latest. Plan. And I just think 133 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:12,75 that it's going to come up Monday night so sure absolutely if I understand thank 134 00:11:12,76 --> 00:11:19,65 you the other comment from the line. I think you know I 135 00:11:19,66 --> 00:11:25,56 think you. And we will move on update. 136 00:11:30,06 --> 00:11:36,66 Few things over. Veteran's Park we had our weekly meeting up there today. 137 00:11:38,10 --> 00:11:43,63 It's progressing nicely concrete been poured in several of the locations now Splash 138 00:11:43,64 --> 00:11:50,42 had them poured. Pretty neat to see the dinosaur footprints in the in the concrete 139 00:11:50,43 --> 00:11:56,85 out there the concrete was also poured on her knee the other her today 140 00:11:57,52 --> 00:12:04,31 so it's coming along very nicely. Dog Park once again just 141 00:12:04,82 --> 00:12:10,08 staff was out there we got the area area getting them fertilized in the past couple 142 00:12:10,09 --> 00:12:16,90 weeks. Went out there today and just the fertilizer is really taking it over 143 00:12:17,27 --> 00:12:21,53 into a big difference there if you haven't been out the smith park for 144 00:12:21,54 --> 00:12:26,62 a while the fishing pier is almost it's nearing completion fishing slash up for 145 00:12:26,63 --> 00:12:33,53 vacation pier staring completion it should be wrapped up this week if not at least 146 00:12:33,54 --> 00:12:40,28 next week. Truly about it in terms of 147 00:12:40,29 --> 00:12:44,08 our. Park Levy funded projects 148 00:12:44,48 --> 00:12:49,56 a couple the other things that I wanted to mention to you was. Connections with 149 00:12:49,57 --> 00:12:49,76 Make 150 00:12:49,77 --> 00:12:54,07 a Difference Day that I mentioned I think last month we had about sixty allow US 151 00:12:54,08 --> 00:12:58,85 plans to come back. In IF difference there may break 152 00:12:58,86 --> 00:13:05,17 a lot of leaves we could tell that next day but. That the difference 153 00:13:06,75 --> 00:13:13,53 thank you whistling the connections for that. We started that 154 00:13:13,54 --> 00:13:17,64 started to remove and replace some of the play structures on the swing sets in the 155 00:13:17,65 --> 00:13:22,09 slides those Taney we've started to remove those we haven't really started to 156 00:13:22,50 --> 00:13:24,71 replace those yet but we do have a make 157 00:13:24,72 --> 00:13:31,60 a mint yesterday I believe. The greenhouse out to four forty 158 00:13:31,87 --> 00:13:36,82 East William They actually started the construction of that day they're hoping to 159 00:13:36,83 --> 00:13:42,83 be wrapped up by the end of the we are with the rain sure how much they'll progress 160 00:13:42,84 --> 00:13:49,82 to morrow street injury staff planted about two hundred fifty trees we 161 00:13:49,83 --> 00:13:56,82 contacted contracted out roughly about one hundred of those trees that trees 162 00:13:56,83 --> 00:13:59,55 left the plant that was city Y. 163 00:13:59,55 --> 00:14:03,12 . In Valley 164 00:14:03,40 --> 00:14:07,36 a little update on Hidden Valley as we met last week with four different 165 00:14:07,37 --> 00:14:13,69 contractors prices are supposed to be back in Friday for that project and that was 166 00:14:13,70 --> 00:14:20,27 some of the. Motorcade in the restrooms up there since 167 00:14:20,53 --> 00:14:23,65 making some more eighty accommodations up there. 168 00:14:29,06 --> 00:14:35,54 I think that was about it all meant. The other thing that I would mention to you 169 00:14:35,55 --> 00:14:39,09 guys. I've been looking at this for 170 00:14:39,10 --> 00:14:46,10 a while. I last week did some research reached out to 171 00:14:46,11 --> 00:14:52,53 some other golf courses both private and public that were nine hole course is to 172 00:14:52,54 --> 00:14:59,47 see where our prices were compared to other courses. The average 173 00:14:59,48 --> 00:15:06,23 price. During the week if it was if it was. Municipal own city 174 00:15:06,24 --> 00:15:12,81 own we were right in line with those prices. Week in rates we were 175 00:15:12,86 --> 00:15:19,82 below the average market now of the combined the private nine hole course compared 176 00:15:19,88 --> 00:15:26,70 to that the average cost was like ten dollars and forty five cents per week day in 177 00:15:26,71 --> 00:15:33,28 eleven dollars twenty five. So what what I would like to 178 00:15:33,29 --> 00:15:39,30 do is. Our rates right now if you turn to the last page. 179 00:15:42,52 --> 00:15:48,03 Of Europe in the packet and even to the Monday through Friday are nine whole rates 180 00:15:48,04 --> 00:15:54,20 or eight dollars and fifty cents and on the weekend were nine dollars and cents 181 00:15:55,63 --> 00:16:00,61 what I'd like to recommend to this board is that we were raised our weekend rates 182 00:16:00,65 --> 00:16:02,16 to ten dollars so 183 00:16:02,17 --> 00:16:08,97 a fifty cent increase in that rate which put us more in line with other Minas own 184 00:16:08,98 --> 00:16:15,53 courses and private courses we said was going to be this and that the nine fifteen 185 00:16:15,54 --> 00:16:22,38 the things. You know I could not find anything on it's 186 00:16:22,39 --> 00:16:22,61 been 187 00:16:22,62 --> 00:16:29,91 a lot. And it was at least before yours that that 188 00:16:29,92 --> 00:16:34,86 I think the last time we raised rates and I was when I when we moved to public 189 00:16:34,87 --> 00:16:41,84 works temporarily I think the last time they scraped after forty years. You want to 190 00:16:41,85 --> 00:16:46,88 change eighteen months then to. Yeah just fifty cents all. 191 00:16:49,38 --> 00:16:55,96 So from thirty to fifty the kind of response do you anticipate receiving 192 00:16:55,97 --> 00:17:01,30 from my rep. My regular golfers are Monday through Friday 193 00:17:02,87 --> 00:17:09,40 and my regular golfers are primarily membership elders so they're not impacted. And 194 00:17:09,41 --> 00:17:13,34 I took that into consideration before adding them that's 195 00:17:13,35 --> 00:17:18,82 a good one to do this proposal because I don't want to affect my members and that. 196 00:17:20,05 --> 00:17:26,84 But we thought let's get one with other courses are there some can I ask 197 00:17:26,85 --> 00:17:29,24 a question about membership and have 198 00:17:29,25 --> 00:17:34,94 a membership to maintain cream cheese and. If they were in a car they may pay for 199 00:17:34,95 --> 00:17:41,22 a car rental. And we actually. 200 00:17:44,54 --> 00:17:49,22 Will bring something more for you guys on that mix meaning we've ran 201 00:17:49,23 --> 00:17:55,85 a report last week on what our memberships were. Last year compared to this year 202 00:17:55,86 --> 00:18:00,56 what our green fees were this year to last year and so on and so forth pretty much 203 00:18:00,57 --> 00:18:05,18 everything at the golf course come from forty to fifty and we noticed that our 204 00:18:05,19 --> 00:18:11,68 membership were down but our punch cards or. And 205 00:18:12,00 --> 00:18:15,08 so. That's both a good thing and 206 00:18:15,09 --> 00:18:21,02 a bad thing but you know your punch card to me and I'm saying this on record but 207 00:18:21,03 --> 00:18:25,26 a punch card to me is that you're getting your bang for your buck because you don't 208 00:18:25,27 --> 00:18:28,22 know how many times you're going to be able to call so by buying 209 00:18:28,23 --> 00:18:31,98 a ten round punch card I can always go back and buy another ten round and part of 210 00:18:31,99 --> 00:18:36,81 my bill through law so I think if I were seen to increase that limb then I had that 211 00:18:36,82 --> 00:18:43,51 discussion as we did that work. So good they were selling a lot more punch near 212 00:18:43,52 --> 00:18:49,01 a bridge for the six hundred twenty two rounds played does that show what that was 213 00:18:49,02 --> 00:18:55,77 last year as well yeah yeah. Yeah we have those for per month and we 214 00:18:55,78 --> 00:19:02,63 have curried. And so. Will Senate and then I got one more thing 215 00:19:02,71 --> 00:19:07,28 on the golf course that I mentioned before too but I want to get your final not. 216 00:19:08,31 --> 00:19:14,88 Preserved and I'm not sure do we have to take that or council that rate increase I 217 00:19:14,89 --> 00:19:16,26 would have to choose of discover it's 218 00:19:16,27 --> 00:19:21,03 a revenue generator so we would need your guys is recommendation of the state of 219 00:19:21,04 --> 00:19:26,80 mind that are not so that we can take that for city council I want to get it now 220 00:19:27,39 --> 00:19:32,05 instead of March of next year that way they have plenty of time to get it before 221 00:19:32,06 --> 00:19:38,27 council in House budget time and everything else of the. Visit we prove tonight 222 00:19:38,94 --> 00:19:41,40 smatter budget next to each I think it's going to be 223 00:19:41,41 --> 00:19:44,51 a move to recommend our second. 224 00:19:51,34 --> 00:19:56,01 Month. When voters. 225 00:19:58,49 --> 00:20:04,85 When you raise their rates and such kind. Not right now. 226 00:20:05,99 --> 00:20:12,13 We're only raising the regular weekend crack jokes. All 227 00:20:12,82 --> 00:20:19,56 right. How do you want this motion to be read can human emotion 228 00:20:19,57 --> 00:20:25,61 to just say I'm an increase for I'm new to recommend the fifty cent increase for 229 00:20:26,02 --> 00:20:32,44 these at the golf course I don't get that chance is that just we can write we can 230 00:20:32,45 --> 00:20:38,65 rates at the golf course. The ones that get whatever that is. 231 00:20:41,30 --> 00:20:48,21 Mr Breckon Yes this kind of woman is German Yes Mr Benjamin Yes Miss Lamar 232 00:20:48,41 --> 00:20:54,10 Yes the polite is yes Mr Smith Yes councilman JONES Yes thanks Chairman Davis Yes 233 00:20:54,11 --> 00:20:59,36 chairwoman much yes ma'am chairman counsel. For the record that the rest of our 234 00:21:00,04 --> 00:21:05,75 committee has arrived so it's no different record. All right. 235 00:21:10,76 --> 00:21:17,72 And that's it for you have more faith yes. We'll just 236 00:21:17,73 --> 00:21:23,93 work down the page here. If you go to the decision options at the golf course right 237 00:21:23,94 --> 00:21:27,61 now we. Got 238 00:21:27,62 --> 00:21:34,32 a far right column where it's driving range. We offer four different sizes but it's 239 00:21:35,23 --> 00:21:41,95 in our report that we were looking that we don't stand talking with the core 240 00:21:41,96 --> 00:21:48,20 staff we don't sell a lot of the medium sized buckets. So I just wanted lemonade 241 00:21:48,25 --> 00:21:50,26 a medium sized Yes there's not 242 00:21:50,27 --> 00:21:54,99 a big difference in I think it was twelve balls or something like that between 243 00:21:55,00 --> 00:22:00,68 a medium and large bucket so it just makes very little sense to have four different 244 00:22:00,69 --> 00:22:05,23 sizes that we can just have three different sizes so I just one of the lets you 245 00:22:05,24 --> 00:22:10,44 guys know that is what my plan is that there is just eliminate 246 00:22:10,45 --> 00:22:17,37 a size and I know that the staff is very pleased with that. The other 247 00:22:17,38 --> 00:22:24,32 thing that I've mentioned several times here is an opening close. And I want to 248 00:22:24,33 --> 00:22:25,07 have 249 00:22:25,32 --> 00:22:31,90 a specific date that right now we are putting on the memberships 250 00:22:32,46 --> 00:22:37,72 and the punch margin Linda's got copies of those is March through October. 251 00:22:39,65 --> 00:22:46,24 Now that's that's not saying bat November first I'm not open because the leathers 252 00:22:46,25 --> 00:22:50,25 nice and then I I won't recognize the membership or 253 00:22:50,26 --> 00:22:56,23 a punch card but there's really nothing that says when we're open and when we're 254 00:22:56,27 --> 00:23:03,13 close. And last week I was very close to closing the course 255 00:23:03,14 --> 00:23:06,95 because the temperatures and the weather and we got a lot 256 00:23:06,96 --> 00:23:13,71 a lot of our members were very pleased with that. So I stayed open mike 257 00:23:13,75 --> 00:23:20,71 in this. But we posted yesterday that. Thursday 258 00:23:20,75 --> 00:23:27,73 the nineteenth will be our last day. But I want to have I want to 259 00:23:27,74 --> 00:23:34,08 have the backing of this board. With the date whether we choose November 260 00:23:34,09 --> 00:23:40,67 first and. March first is our opening November first is our close 261 00:23:40,68 --> 00:23:45,14 they you know if weather's nice I mean there's nothing that says I can't beat them 262 00:23:45,98 --> 00:23:52,96 but I know last week had I was down there it was Friday for 263 00:23:52,97 --> 00:23:56,32 the meeting on the renovations and I had 264 00:23:56,33 --> 00:23:59,63 a guy come in that was like forty eight degrees and raining. 265 00:24:03,87 --> 00:24:09,18 Really. Little bad out there today I think I was like Thursday or Friday the winds 266 00:24:09,19 --> 00:24:16,16 were forty and. So we ended up have three people that and it's just not good 267 00:24:16,17 --> 00:24:20,83 business. And I you know I want to make sure that we are running the golf course 268 00:24:20,84 --> 00:24:26,34 like like I. Want the backing of this board to have the open. 269 00:24:28,57 --> 00:24:32,46 So I don't question that I agree that there should be open and closed base but then 270 00:24:32,47 --> 00:24:35,04 you're saying that we might stay open and so when I want to have 271 00:24:35,05 --> 00:24:40,08 a drop dead date I want to put up I want to basically leave but it is now March 272 00:24:40,09 --> 00:24:47,05 through October but I want to have November. Oh November you know if we say 273 00:24:47,06 --> 00:24:53,02 it's not I'm open to suggestion so if we say November tenth and it's November the 274 00:24:53,03 --> 00:24:58,29 golf course OK we have another rare occurrence like this in November where it's so 275 00:24:58,30 --> 00:25:04,46 nice we're close right back that's what I was confused about do you remember from 276 00:25:04,81 --> 00:25:10,59 previous years that state what you had in the for we have we have the daily two I 277 00:25:10,60 --> 00:25:13,22 mean I can tell you they must I mean if you see 278 00:25:13,23 --> 00:25:17,62 a pattern where obviously the weather Gee this year nice last year there's 279 00:25:17,85 --> 00:25:24,49 a ground level. Up if you have it on average we stay open till November fourth 280 00:25:24,61 --> 00:25:29,94 or whatever that we could get and I mean our daily reports would have to think that 281 00:25:29,95 --> 00:25:34,72 makes the most sense a really. Good offer and it's got 282 00:25:34,73 --> 00:25:40,78 a play and I did just the vendors that if he could be nice could be still the 283 00:25:40,97 --> 00:25:46,85 correct so if you haven't said you know looking back past ten years the number for 284 00:25:46,93 --> 00:25:53,19 We've had twenty golfers out and that's about the last variant of people of course 285 00:25:53,62 --> 00:25:58,16 the other thing that I kicked around was do you just say let's just go back to what 286 00:25:58,17 --> 00:26:02,82 I said if we say November tenth is the drop dead date it's 287 00:26:02,83 --> 00:26:05,82 a club you know we need to have 288 00:26:05,83 --> 00:26:12,34 a temperature you know if it's above fifty for you know just say October twenty 289 00:26:12,35 --> 00:26:18,78 eighth through November tenth we'll be going to fifty but if it's over you know you 290 00:26:18,79 --> 00:26:24,18 know like I said our hours are all eleven or so really all on getting in right now 291 00:26:24,25 --> 00:26:28,22 members right you know so you got 292 00:26:28,23 --> 00:26:33,39 a way that we can get. To do seems to be 293 00:26:33,40 --> 00:26:40,37 a pattern not going to make the workload of the record. But instead of 294 00:26:40,38 --> 00:26:46,43 an actual number date it wouldn't be better to say. Second Saturday November 295 00:26:46,44 --> 00:26:50,83 because the numbers are going to change you know I mean instead what an actual 296 00:26:50,84 --> 00:26:56,93 definitive number because. What if the tenth falls on you know it's going to rotate 297 00:26:56,94 --> 00:27:01,98 through so that would stop the or prevent you from code being on 298 00:27:01,99 --> 00:27:04,36 a Wednesday or Thursday versus on 299 00:27:04,37 --> 00:27:09,17 a weekend. Mostly the same day so they get 300 00:27:09,18 --> 00:27:16,15 a little beacon Yeah I mean just were to you know. First day of you know whatever 301 00:27:16,16 --> 00:27:22,90 day of whatever month and what I mean on this one in this. A put something together 302 00:27:22,91 --> 00:27:29,66 for our next meeting. But the one thing that I need to know tonight is everybody 303 00:27:29,67 --> 00:27:34,22 good with March through October is that correct what we need to make sure we. Allow 304 00:27:34,23 --> 00:27:39,26 I mean if we film for Christmas. It's just so you guys know to like right now if 305 00:27:39,27 --> 00:27:44,99 somebody were to come in we give them that person. For next year because the Bible 306 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:50,73 for Christmas we don't want that so we do that but we put it on the membership so 307 00:27:50,92 --> 00:27:53,19 you know it's fine if you are 308 00:27:53,23 --> 00:27:59,90 a changed and the second Saturdays or whatever but if I could just say 309 00:28:00,68 --> 00:28:07,55 through October bill let's use that membership but I want Mike to have just in 310 00:28:07,56 --> 00:28:13,20 case. You need that recommendation on that and the removal of the. 311 00:28:14,51 --> 00:28:18,04 Call I don't mean anything on Buffett I just want to bring that to your. 312 00:28:21,94 --> 00:28:27,99 You know I see yeah that is that. Yes there is 313 00:28:28,00 --> 00:28:32,31 a page and saying is that so we have an answering machine. 314 00:28:36,24 --> 00:28:41,24 And I did anybody that. They might change. 315 00:28:44,88 --> 00:28:51,65 What do other like not to be on courses how do they do open for nonsense 316 00:28:51,75 --> 00:28:57,20 most non study on horses to be open that long as they can be open they'll stay open 317 00:28:57,21 --> 00:29:00,66 year round like the open that you know there was 318 00:29:00,67 --> 00:29:06,68 a couple years ago January for couples to study every course they could do. If they 319 00:29:06,69 --> 00:29:13,66 could be open on the. Best for you Martin like that 320 00:29:13,95 --> 00:29:20,93 we have one of your. Art Now we have a letter Q. 321 00:29:21,03 --> 00:29:27,99 And not to it. So you 322 00:29:28,00 --> 00:29:28,18 need 323 00:29:28,19 --> 00:29:35,09 a formal recommendation that we implement open and close they are already being 324 00:29:35,10 --> 00:29:41,49 charged to. Know when do the formal recommendation on the specific 325 00:29:41,77 --> 00:29:45,45 seconds I have and I'm going to be this I know you have what I might read you guys 326 00:29:45,67 --> 00:29:49,60 think about that between now and our next me because I don't we have in the 327 00:29:49,64 --> 00:29:54,74 December meeting OK so it will be the January meeting so yes you must think about. 328 00:29:56,71 --> 00:30:02,71 Well that still work with your dilemma what is reality I mean well Mark. 329 00:30:04,04 --> 00:30:04,66 And we'll get 330 00:30:04,67 --> 00:30:12,65 a whole lot. After the next one where I just are. I 331 00:30:12,66 --> 00:30:16,98 think getting guns I mean if you talk to the members and they buy the good for all 332 00:30:16,99 --> 00:30:21,59 of you. Or open to them or sort of that's good but you know this is going to be 333 00:30:21,60 --> 00:30:24,80 caught up there with the rivers correct and that that's what we did this year when 334 00:30:24,81 --> 00:30:28,74 we changed it you know we just didn't make it do anything also we want to make sure 335 00:30:29,25 --> 00:30:31,51 the whole more that we're all the same. 336 00:30:39,63 --> 00:30:44,26 All of them have done and I think that it arced and well that's all I have until 337 00:30:44,65 --> 00:30:49,47 you get the staff comment. OK I want where they are going to. 338 00:30:56,84 --> 00:31:01,26 I'm in it. I have. Said. 339 00:31:03,79 --> 00:31:08,09 And I were in. New Mexico. 340 00:31:11,15 --> 00:31:14,76 That would be something that we'd have to take up with the risk management because 341 00:31:14,77 --> 00:31:21,50 we have never been able to do the Skype. If you want to just 342 00:31:21,79 --> 00:31:27,76 get up in the current is three thousand I think it would be you know and then not 343 00:31:27,77 --> 00:31:34,62 count. Construction right it was the material the stocks were three thousand and 344 00:31:34,96 --> 00:31:40,46 we would have resulted. In. 345 00:31:45,00 --> 00:31:51,98 OK And the. Park. Just curious on the 346 00:31:52,12 --> 00:31:59,08 success of the clockwork. We have heard of good reports of people using you know 347 00:31:59,09 --> 00:32:02,59 I mean it's up and down you know I mean of course this time of year everything 348 00:32:02,60 --> 00:32:06,98 slows down in our system but it's up and down because they had 349 00:32:06,99 --> 00:32:12,44 a tournament there Saturday the weather we had this weekend got some good feedback 350 00:32:12,45 --> 00:32:16,01 from that school in the high school it made 351 00:32:16,02 --> 00:32:19,63 a big splash that people are talking about it time and. 352 00:32:23,28 --> 00:32:23,51 I made 353 00:32:23,52 --> 00:32:31,08 a comment. I think we'll move on says Babs comments. Speaking 354 00:32:31,09 --> 00:32:38,06 a blue line. We're actually on. The evening of December third 355 00:32:38,79 --> 00:32:42,41 the public utilities the Parliament along with the parks and natural resources 356 00:32:42,42 --> 00:32:48,25 department are being recognized for going with it going green of war for the work 357 00:32:48,26 --> 00:32:55,23 that was done at Blue Line so training will think will make you guys aware 358 00:32:55,27 --> 00:33:01,80 that some of the work was. Being noticed by the that were 359 00:33:02,26 --> 00:33:09,18 general help the district so. That is all I have to see how are 360 00:33:09,19 --> 00:33:15,07 they recognizing I mean what does that entail. Are you guys getting together on 361 00:33:15,08 --> 00:33:17,26 something that we have there have been a there have been 362 00:33:17,27 --> 00:33:24,16 a. Recognition reception. And so we got invited to 363 00:33:24,17 --> 00:33:31,01 that. Beginning. And so our staff as well as the 364 00:33:31,02 --> 00:33:37,96 staff because we did that project together. And there's more Rabin and all 365 00:33:37,97 --> 00:33:40,07 the P.B.S. Groups work together on 366 00:33:40,08 --> 00:33:44,77 a project that we're getting recognized for that I'm going to make. 367 00:33:47,44 --> 00:33:50,20 That reception every year and 368 00:33:50,21 --> 00:34:01,41 a different more of that. Congratulations 369 00:34:01,73 --> 00:34:07,81 thanks. And their comments. 370 00:34:09,52 --> 00:34:15,85 Like. I'm so glad. He was appointed. 371 00:34:18,54 --> 00:34:22,94 Ram. I let her talk. We got 372 00:34:22,95 --> 00:34:29,66 a request for information or you. And rat think. 373 00:34:30,94 --> 00:34:34,73 I'm still in the running like you have to jump through 374 00:34:34,74 --> 00:34:41,36 a lot of hoops to get it but I'm in the top probably forty for the entire 375 00:34:41,37 --> 00:34:48,36 state and if I do manage to become one of two people selected I'm going to go to 376 00:34:48,37 --> 00:34:50,96 D.C. For a week I mean with 377 00:34:50,97 --> 00:34:56,87 a justice of the Supreme Court and now shadow I there Bob Hartman are Sherrod Brown 378 00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:03,01 I'm really excited. So much good job keep the person. 379 00:35:07,79 --> 00:35:14,72 And the others. Oh one more by. The 380 00:35:14,73 --> 00:35:21,24 staff met with that yesterday. Reconvene in the next week or 381 00:35:21,25 --> 00:35:26,25 two come up with some more things so hopefully the January meeting will actually 382 00:35:26,26 --> 00:35:31,71 have an update for you on the bike trail master plan and that that is. 383 00:35:37,36 --> 00:35:42,53 That I got not OK. Then we will move on to member comments. 384 00:35:44,40 --> 00:35:46,80 I haven't heard somewhere. Good. 385 00:35:51,46 --> 00:35:54,12 Are up but. I was 386 00:35:54,13 --> 00:35:59,73 a question and maybe it's my new this but I was early with the identity of the 387 00:35:59,74 --> 00:36:04,53 board of bigots off some of the things I'm in here to listen to updates parts of 388 00:36:04,88 --> 00:36:11,52 the local levels going out of the city. And getting here of people why was that why 389 00:36:11,81 --> 00:36:18,61 but still like. That's it the spending or the of the fall I don't feel 390 00:36:19,71 --> 00:36:25,08 though I don't know if the casings were. To win the war but felt like I was going 391 00:36:25,09 --> 00:36:27,94 to like better words need more of 392 00:36:27,95 --> 00:36:32,97 a difference in this that's great that's really good idea and that's kind of what 393 00:36:32,98 --> 00:36:39,71 we do. Miss and something is there something that is happens or happens you know we 394 00:36:39,72 --> 00:36:40,60 didn't on tilt 395 00:36:40,61 --> 00:36:46,43 a lot. That happened before then is there something that the Board has done in the 396 00:36:46,44 --> 00:36:52,32 past we're not doing I get it I'm just. Maybe that's all we are doing is I feel 397 00:36:52,33 --> 00:36:57,38 like I should be making. Well I think you are making 398 00:36:57,39 --> 00:37:03,30 a difference to for one one thing but what if some of the things that the previous 399 00:37:03,31 --> 00:37:06,40 board has done is as well Stacy and implementing which is 400 00:37:06,41 --> 00:37:10,99 a park letting privilege which was so significant priviledge with the projects that 401 00:37:11,00 --> 00:37:15,96 are underway. Construction and maintenance mode and that sort of thing now get the 402 00:37:15,97 --> 00:37:22,31 up and coming thing as it is then moving on and you have some some opportunity to 403 00:37:22,32 --> 00:37:27,37 be more involved with that and honestly some of the other things are. Basically 404 00:37:27,42 --> 00:37:31,60 correct me if I'm wrong but there are some opportunities for you for first self 405 00:37:31,61 --> 00:37:35,97 directed things that you might be interested in putting improvements and cost 406 00:37:35,98 --> 00:37:40,13 insights are happening on the golf course and other things come on teacher when the 407 00:37:40,14 --> 00:37:47,13 slashed spray in play comes on or last mile Petunia to. Identify how 408 00:37:47,14 --> 00:37:52,08 that's operating hell may be operated differently and. Devise 409 00:37:52,09 --> 00:37:57,67 a board so I think that you are observing the community recommendations you have 410 00:37:57,68 --> 00:38:01,67 from yourself and others that you are assessed it would bring that to this board 411 00:38:01,68 --> 00:38:06,57 and make recommendations here that can be taken city council for this improvements 412 00:38:06,58 --> 00:38:11,92 and in some point some point maybe there's no projects such as bike projects that 413 00:38:11,93 --> 00:38:12,41 come out as 414 00:38:12,42 --> 00:38:18,71 a result of cycling and perhaps more engagement with this. And those are all things 415 00:38:18,72 --> 00:38:23,38 too that you heard me mention it's budget time so our budget just went to City 416 00:38:23,39 --> 00:38:30,19 Council yesterday. But those are all things that you know if you guys are 417 00:38:30,20 --> 00:38:35,52 out in the out of the parks and seeing things and. I guess points in that direction 418 00:38:36,16 --> 00:38:41,04 sometimes but if you're seeing things that you know me to be really and I have this 419 00:38:41,05 --> 00:38:46,04 part. Those are the kinds of things that I need back so that I can put into 420 00:38:46,05 --> 00:38:47,96 a passable improved budget or 421 00:38:47,97 --> 00:38:54,79 a quarry but. But you know like Dan mentioned I mean the biggest thing and 422 00:38:54,80 --> 00:39:00,72 right now it's it is kind of that gray area because we're running them down our 423 00:39:00,73 --> 00:39:07,61 part improvement stuff Linda Jim. Lamar can tell 424 00:39:07,62 --> 00:39:13,95 you that Nicole while I say. All the time. That we spend 425 00:39:13,96 --> 00:39:19,95 a lot of time in the park proves less fun things with the previous 426 00:39:20,87 --> 00:39:25,86 But all that stuff is kind of done when you came on board we're still shifting 427 00:39:25,87 --> 00:39:32,76 gears if you. Would which is great. To hear that if they think are 428 00:39:32,77 --> 00:39:39,47 the. Right direction it's great I'm going to make sure that I'm being as productive 429 00:39:39,48 --> 00:39:45,54 or school I can be as well and going back to what I brought tonight with the golf 430 00:39:45,55 --> 00:39:50,22 course and that that's to get involved and get that backing from you guys and have 431 00:39:50,23 --> 00:39:56,27 your input on that because you know. Danced right hand guy around Banff right hand 432 00:39:56,28 --> 00:40:02,21 guy having one look at Linda's laugh but you know to have other ears and mouth to 433 00:40:02,22 --> 00:40:07,14 speak well that makes you think of something that we all very like have really 434 00:40:07,15 --> 00:40:12,59 helped us out and. I think you you may remember when we first when you first came 435 00:40:12,60 --> 00:40:16,20 on board we did have some discussions about what you thought your role might be and 436 00:40:16,21 --> 00:40:19,93 I think we probably get opportunity to continue that discussion with to talk about 437 00:40:19,94 --> 00:40:25,38 separating out in. Parks and Recreation or other segments that we may be able to 438 00:40:25,39 --> 00:40:26,26 break them because 439 00:40:26,27 --> 00:40:32,01 a lot of the word it will break that out in but. It certainly is if the see things 440 00:40:32,02 --> 00:40:37,40 that. You think would be better ways to be involved in gauged and have an impact 441 00:40:37,41 --> 00:40:44,36 we're all ears to do that and I'm wondering. Because my 442 00:40:44,37 --> 00:40:50,56 word. I think. I can because of my. 443 00:40:53,95 --> 00:40:59,08 Daughter's. Car and then. Your cat I think. 444 00:41:01,83 --> 00:41:08,38 I have. A. Moment. 445 00:41:13,02 --> 00:41:17,57 Even though. I don't. Think. 446 00:41:19,98 --> 00:41:26,97 Knowing. And I what I had to go on in two thousand and sixteen we're trying to 447 00:41:27,88 --> 00:41:31,88 and the director position arts and one of the things 448 00:41:31,89 --> 00:41:38,02 a council is tasking is to we want to program. For familiar with the preservation 449 00:41:38,03 --> 00:41:43,08 parts activities we want to do that with our system so there's really more of that 450 00:41:43,12 --> 00:41:48,37 stuff coming down like you know where it's from ideas we can do. Do this in the 451 00:41:48,38 --> 00:41:54,75 park or the difference in the Splash in Puerto Rico and that stuff coming down 452 00:41:55,33 --> 00:42:02,26 to the sixty's. But I mean the big difference is again that we took this one bunch 453 00:42:02,27 --> 00:42:08,02 on board as you know with her when she took over the recreation of. The sport. 454 00:42:09,43 --> 00:42:15,47 Taking away. What she does does that now in the last board you know it was during 455 00:42:15,70 --> 00:42:19,78 the Bill you know the one she. Just part of there was 456 00:42:19,79 --> 00:42:25,49 a lot more and Tom stuff so stays right in the transition period now but I think we 457 00:42:25,50 --> 00:42:25,61 have 458 00:42:25,62 --> 00:42:30,98 a lot to do. With the park system now with the bike trails and with the program in 459 00:42:30,99 --> 00:42:37,55 the parks and stuff like that that's working. So that helps I guess. 460 00:42:39,58 --> 00:42:45,71 I don't have any I had this conversation. Separate meetings as well and wanting to 461 00:42:46,10 --> 00:42:49,79 know how the board can be more active with this because we're ending here I think 462 00:42:49,83 --> 00:42:50,02 it's 463 00:42:50,03 --> 00:42:55,17 a time for us all we can kind of think about that to how we can be more active and 464 00:42:55,18 --> 00:42:59,13 what we can bring to the board as well we first started we had talk about I mean to 465 00:42:59,40 --> 00:43:06,39 be with that role model. Is having coming up with different ways to 466 00:43:06,43 --> 00:43:09,90 highlight our parks and have special events and that So that sounds like that kind 467 00:43:09,91 --> 00:43:16,19 of coinciding that you're talking about. We need back maybe in January we're not 468 00:43:16,20 --> 00:43:22,88 leaving and correct. Because of the holidays so. I think everybody 469 00:43:22,89 --> 00:43:28,34 probably need that extra time. Maybe we come back in January as we're getting ready 470 00:43:28,35 --> 00:43:35,21 to start talking. In 471 00:43:35,22 --> 00:43:39,84 a guess and also point out the something that we do we pretty good as you know but 472 00:43:39,85 --> 00:43:40,50 Y.M.C.A. 473 00:43:40,51 --> 00:43:46,58 Works for. The country the city just to have this you the one. You still need to 474 00:43:46,59 --> 00:43:51,83 bring the ordinance time to dress to do so even though they've run their winter 475 00:43:51,84 --> 00:43:52,99 program they're still running under 476 00:43:53,00 --> 00:43:59,48 a tree. So they're still programmed to do what should the winds are still that 477 00:43:59,49 --> 00:44:05,61 things will be going in. The pool we still have the authority to be passing along. 478 00:44:10,82 --> 00:44:15,23 I will mention one other thing that that mad to mention just now because it's we're 479 00:44:15,24 --> 00:44:17,86 talking about tomorrow with the healthy living Committee which is one of the 480 00:44:17,87 --> 00:44:18,89 committees at the Y. 481 00:44:18,89 --> 00:44:25,86 . Tags when I'm being healthy living. And we're trying to tie that that have 482 00:44:25,87 --> 00:44:29,84 been living into the business community for Community Improvement community impact 483 00:44:30,39 --> 00:44:32,78 and Small want to start a discussion to have 484 00:44:32,79 --> 00:44:38,44 a corporate field day and it May early June or some some time that you have to be 485 00:44:38,45 --> 00:44:43,22 determined that will be. A corporate challenge but instead of happen like like 486 00:44:43,23 --> 00:44:45,18 a Central High Y.M.C.A. 487 00:44:45,19 --> 00:44:50,46 Does it's. I teams it to prevent some different day throughout the year just one 488 00:44:50,47 --> 00:44:54,12 day field day to kind of impact the community in 489 00:44:54,13 --> 00:45:00,70 a way that brings together business and the residents and way that is exciting 490 00:45:01,55 --> 00:45:06,28 much business gets more community business interaction going on and that's another 491 00:45:06,29 --> 00:45:10,10 thing that will hopefully will bring that to this committee in the next few months 492 00:45:10,14 --> 00:45:15,33 as an integration and to get your input on that as well as first step exaction 493 00:45:15,34 --> 00:45:18,53 December second tomorrow we're meeting with that living healthy living committee to 494 00:45:18,54 --> 00:45:22,32 kind of put together our sales pitch to take the community we're taking that to the 495 00:45:22,33 --> 00:45:27,24 community to the businesses to the Chamber of Commerce on the second December we'll 496 00:45:27,25 --> 00:45:32,43 start pushing that with them to get the input back to us and then and then bring 497 00:45:32,44 --> 00:45:37,92 that to this committee and push it back out to the general public can we expect you 498 00:45:37,93 --> 00:45:42,41 all to participate in the cornhole in Dodgeball games while taking place that 499 00:45:42,42 --> 00:45:47,04 a. Lot of the kind of things that are just you know generating steam and aren't 500 00:45:47,05 --> 00:45:51,01 really to the point where we will be discussing them here but something we find in 501 00:45:51,02 --> 00:45:55,06 the future is Crystal park's director before too long ago be able to be more 502 00:45:55,07 --> 00:45:58,66 engaging I have as you know who are in multiple hats in the one organization. 503 00:46:08,59 --> 00:46:14,81 Oh I just our question I guess it would go to you Dan. If I were going on the bike 504 00:46:14,85 --> 00:46:21,85 path idea and there's ample side once why have there share the road. With 505 00:46:21,86 --> 00:46:23,04 the bike it's 506 00:46:23,05 --> 00:46:30,03 a dusty where there's no place I mean by the way that it grated on the plane 507 00:46:30,34 --> 00:46:35,100 like we have the entire region which I understand that I personally would not be 508 00:46:36,01 --> 00:46:40,85 right Michael you know so it's not the street with all the traffic that's on there 509 00:46:40,85 --> 00:46:45,69 . What where did that come from what I that's actually had 510 00:46:45,73 --> 00:46:52,34 a national push culture Road in it. Complete streets raw diets of that some of the 511 00:46:52,34 --> 00:46:58,47 . Some knowledge you're here nationally but an opportunity to make sure that there 512 00:46:58,48 --> 00:46:58,78 is 513 00:46:58,79 --> 00:47:04,47 a safe route for bike travel to be accomplished in one place to another whether it's 514 00:47:04,48 --> 00:47:08,70 commuters or recreational biking or the seriousness Pemex bike or that's going down 515 00:47:08,71 --> 00:47:12,86 the road and they're going to do that anyway this is an opportunity provide them 516 00:47:12,87 --> 00:47:13,94 routes that are identified 517 00:47:13,95 --> 00:47:17,82 a safe route for that travel to occur in the case the Sandusky street it wasn't 518 00:47:17,88 --> 00:47:18,77 practical to put in 519 00:47:18,78 --> 00:47:23,57 a separate lane for bikes so we put that it's share the road with the signs up and 520 00:47:23,58 --> 00:47:28,76 I get the bike if you have the freeway there and the faith in that the you'll start 521 00:47:28,77 --> 00:47:30,37 seeing that throughout our as we do 522 00:47:30,38 --> 00:47:34,29 a payment improvement projects like on Park Avenue we're going to want to try to 523 00:47:34,30 --> 00:47:34,46 put 524 00:47:34,47 --> 00:47:38,82 a private life separate line in there to provide traffic if not would you share those 525 00:47:39,11 --> 00:47:44,78 and as we don't apply pathways to the community there's multipurpose trails which 526 00:47:44,79 --> 00:47:51,20 are for those three types of. Pedestrians we're going to fight. And I know that's 527 00:47:51,21 --> 00:47:55,55 very fundamental sketch of it but I hope that when we do present the bike plan to 528 00:47:55,56 --> 00:48:00,19 you that all of described in gory detail and then we can have some discussion with 529 00:48:00,20 --> 00:48:05,44 a consultant about what that means and if you have in the community fight. Madison 530 00:48:05,45 --> 00:48:09,87 Wisconsin Denver some of those other places you'll see that that's that's very 531 00:48:09,88 --> 00:48:15,01 common particularly in downtown areas where you want to encourage that traffic to 532 00:48:15,02 --> 00:48:20,46 occur in the downtown to some of the businesses and into the parks park I can tell 533 00:48:20,47 --> 00:48:24,79 you that it just seems that road as narrow as it is it just seems like you know 534 00:48:24,80 --> 00:48:31,30 just that particular spot just we're kind of like there's no way it would be you 535 00:48:31,31 --> 00:48:35,55 know there's dump trucks and. Cars trying to get that all around each other and 536 00:48:35,56 --> 00:48:40,68 everything else it. Had to catch twenty two I mean you want to you want to 537 00:48:40,69 --> 00:48:43,44 encourage the by traffic but I'm really all right and I. 538 00:48:48,31 --> 00:48:54,19 Think that was the only. Main question. We look for going in that plan 539 00:48:54,77 --> 00:48:59,45 forward I think the consultant and us have been overwhelmed with data that came out 540 00:48:59,46 --> 00:49:03,29 of that because we had we had those plans at the library and at the Y. 541 00:49:03,30 --> 00:49:07,86 And at this I think Center over here and had just phenomenal input as well as one 542 00:49:07,87 --> 00:49:11,34 hundred seventy seven services online surveys that came in so we've got 543 00:49:11,68 --> 00:49:17,38 a lot of data we're trying to put together and prioritize. To prioritize based on 544 00:49:17,42 --> 00:49:17,89 you know this is 545 00:49:17,90 --> 00:49:22,60 a project to do then you can environmental concerns change concerns great concerns 546 00:49:22,61 --> 00:49:27,18 are very costly and you have the opportunities in some areas to do to get grants to 547 00:49:27,19 --> 00:49:30,78 do some of this work and others you don't we're trying to weigh those opportunities 548 00:49:30,79 --> 00:49:36,86 prioritize that would happen in. An alternate to the Sandusky street battle like I 549 00:49:37,06 --> 00:49:41,99 just happen to be the one writing I know it's sharing with you if you got to us 550 00:49:42,03 --> 00:49:45,31 let's recap the same thing I'm going to then you have in which is our first test 551 00:49:45,32 --> 00:49:51,19 case and that you'll see that. As we. Initially you'll find 552 00:49:51,20 --> 00:49:52,74 a green sign to say this is 553 00:49:52,75 --> 00:49:55,67 a bike route no travel you know the risk in one sense but this is 554 00:49:55,68 --> 00:50:01,13 a way to get from downtown to the wire from my Waveland Smith park and over time 555 00:50:01,14 --> 00:50:05,52 we'll be able to create fill the gaps like ways we can get off well as opposed to 556 00:50:05,53 --> 00:50:10,62 on this progression over time and probably fifteen years trying to actually get 557 00:50:10,63 --> 00:50:15,44 that for you know we just need to focus on the I think is the plan Benchley he 558 00:50:15,51 --> 00:50:20,32 connects I guess to be the back end of greater chase and or. 559 00:50:22,74 --> 00:50:28,32 Into Glen and or whatever you want to call it that they're not. There there are 560 00:50:28,33 --> 00:50:33,70 plans to take from. There I know I mean you know I'm speaking about the path of 561 00:50:33,71 --> 00:50:39,18 choice road. From in the way you have into this and also from Eric once Mary gets 562 00:50:39,19 --> 00:50:44,72 in to bring that up for America threw him in the bike path or come up Smith park 563 00:50:44,73 --> 00:50:47,73 and actually work on the preservation parks to take that on over to gallant 564 00:50:47,74 --> 00:50:48,93 preserve to do 565 00:50:48,94 --> 00:50:53,90 a path along the railway so that you know again long term plan that you got to 566 00:50:53,91 --> 00:50:58,99 start somewhere and Stacy in some staff are going to a meeting next week with 567 00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:03,56 a community group called Noble on this we're going to and you know what liberty 568 00:51:03,89 --> 00:51:07,35 there are in the process of building from the Columbus trail down there to campus 569 00:51:07,36 --> 00:51:11,93 and on down to Columbus they're trying to build up at the high bank part high banks 570 00:51:11,94 --> 00:51:16,38 Mark we'd like to bring that all the way up into the city from the south and how 571 00:51:16,39 --> 00:51:18,93 did you know three fifteen twenty three project time ended in 572 00:51:18,94 --> 00:51:23,23 a car dealership down there and from the development it's kind on the cusp of 573 00:51:23,24 --> 00:51:24,76 happening in that area and so 574 00:51:24,77 --> 00:51:28,88 a lot of pieces parts to bring together but there is in this is most of this is 575 00:51:28,89 --> 00:51:31,05 identified in that by plan and if it's not met 576 00:51:31,06 --> 00:51:37,41 a little bit by times. Well just one quick thing going back to what you mentioned 577 00:51:38,52 --> 00:51:45,12 we were you know on the trail. Two buttermilk since two thousand so you know 578 00:51:45,66 --> 00:51:49,14 my notes and I'm back and forth those you know it's been brought up and then it's 579 00:51:49,15 --> 00:51:56,11 kind of that way dresses. OK Well think about now and well go alongside that we 580 00:51:56,12 --> 00:52:01,18 are working now right now to disconnect from Westfield over to winter and chase 581 00:52:01,19 --> 00:52:01,69 where that there is 582 00:52:01,70 --> 00:52:06,05 a gap there that I live inland and chase and you see some of these I saw one of the 583 00:52:06,06 --> 00:52:09,71 other day pushing it in the stroller can blocking them Central Avenue Christian 584 00:52:09,72 --> 00:52:12,97 over the hill at the curb and I just can't believe that's happening so we don't 585 00:52:12,98 --> 00:52:17,04 like to avoid some of that so there's their safety perhaps there is transportation 586 00:52:17,05 --> 00:52:21,64 gas pre-destined gaps and there's there's some large chordal improvements for 587 00:52:21,65 --> 00:52:24,37 network connections that need to occur that's all that is and. 588 00:52:28,81 --> 00:52:34,27 I saw the dog park and I haven't been to looks amazing and I was getting 589 00:52:34,28 --> 00:52:40,69 a bit from Facebook the little dog bone. Fantastic that's his idea. 590 00:52:42,54 --> 00:52:45,77 About liking and then second point on 591 00:52:45,94 --> 00:52:51,04 a recreational thing the Iron Man we have to deliver kudos to ever work that 592 00:52:51,05 --> 00:52:56,53 negotiation out and that wasn't safe it wasn't. You can act like you. 593 00:53:00,31 --> 00:53:07,24 Have people from all over the world you're only. Filling up for dates when there's 594 00:53:07,25 --> 00:53:13,15 never any like conversation I mean about expanding the people. You've been with 595 00:53:13,35 --> 00:53:17,37 love to see more people and then missed out on it all Matt will want to really aim 596 00:53:17,38 --> 00:53:22,56 for the second annual Absolutely I mean have you know I'm not but I'm not running 597 00:53:22,80 --> 00:53:23,27 your number. 598 00:53:29,72 --> 00:53:34,13 OK As if that meant no more comments. All right I have 599 00:53:34,14 --> 00:53:40,40 a motion to adjourn. Right we are germ.