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i don't know the
 

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i don't know the
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the thermal dynamics of the water
 

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the thermal dynamics of the water
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underneath but certainly it was a lot
 

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underneath but certainly it was a lot
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safer over by the boys club it seemed
 

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safer over by the boys club it seemed
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like there were 100 people over there
 

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like there were 100 people over there
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but in that cove over in that area
 

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but in that cove over in that area
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that's where we had the people fall
 

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that's where we had the people fall
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through the ice i love the details on
 

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through the ice i love the details on
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all three i know that on the first save
 

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all three i know that on the first save
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it was um uh the apd arrived first
 

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it was um uh the apd arrived first
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officer hogan had a
 

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officer hogan had a
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rope kit he had and he was able to throw
 

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rope kit he had and he was able to throw
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a rope to the person just as the person
 

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a rope to the person just as the person
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grabbed the rope um one of our
 

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grabbed the rope um one of our
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firefighters arrived and was able to
 

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firefighters arrived and was able to
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assist officer hogan and i think another
 

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assist officer hogan and i think another
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police officer and just
 

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police officer and just
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pulling the person out of the hole with
 

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pulling the person out of the hole with
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the rope and getting him out of the
 

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the rope and getting him out of the
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water that was a what we call a
 

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water that was a what we call a
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shoreline rescue they didn't actually
 

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shoreline rescue they didn't actually
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have to get up onto the ice i think they
 

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have to get up onto the ice i think they
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were able to
 

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were able to
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so um so that went well
 

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so um so that went well
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you know we actually this week we were
 

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you know we actually this week we were
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doing ice rescue training coincidentally
 

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doing ice rescue training coincidentally
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so that was fortunate um
 

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so that was fortunate um
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we use our equipment we have a sled and
 

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we use our equipment we have a sled and
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uh mustang suits our water suits we wear
 

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uh mustang suits our water suits we wear
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and they were to go out and um uh help
 

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and they were to go out and um uh help
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the person get out of the hall so do you
 

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the person get out of the hall so do you
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have any advice for anyone who is
 

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have any advice for anyone who is
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thinking about skating on spy pond
 

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thinking about skating on spy pond
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usually i would imagine you get these
 

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usually i would imagine you get these
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calls a lot especially in january and
 

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calls a lot especially in january and
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yeah well fortunately um you know we've
 

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yeah well fortunately um you know we've
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been lucky recent years we haven't had
 

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been lucky recent years we haven't had
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too many through the ice calls
 

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too many through the ice calls
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um i think one thing is
 

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um i think one thing is
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not exactly sure the exact amount so i
 

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not exactly sure the exact amount so i
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want to be careful but i know they say
 

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want to be careful but i know they say
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that you want to make sure the ice is at
 

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that you want to make sure the ice is at
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least four inches thick
 

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least four inches thick
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before someone's going out on the ice
 

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before someone's going out on the ice
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how they how they determine that i'm not
 

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how they how they determine that i'm not
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sure right
 

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sure right
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secondly is certainly on like you have
 

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secondly is certainly on like you have
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to be very careful
 

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to be very careful
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we we did have some warming right
 

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we we did have some warming right
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remember like we had some cold weather
 

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remember like we had some cold weather
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and some warming some cold weather some
 

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and some warming some cold weather some
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warming and when you have that kind of
 

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warming and when you have that kind of
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change in weather you that definitely
 

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change in weather you that definitely
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have to be careful be wary you know i we
 

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have to be careful be wary you know i we
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remember the cold but that warm that
 

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remember the cold but that warm that
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warm weather probably helps in that ice
 

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warm weather probably helps in that ice
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a little bit
 

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a little bit
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um the other piece of advice is is is um
 

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um the other piece of advice is is is um
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make sure you're not alone right if
 

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make sure you're not alone right if
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you're gonna go skating on a pond or
 

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you're gonna go skating on a pond or
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something certainly make sure you have
 

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something certainly make sure you have
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someone with you and certainly if
 

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someone with you and certainly if
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they're if they're a minor they should
 

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they're if they're a minor they should
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never be alone they should have adult
 

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never be alone they should have adult
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supervision you know i'd like to say
 

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supervision you know i'd like to say
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never go on the ice but that's not
 

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never go on the ice but that's not
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realistic right people
 

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realistic right people
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we all pawn skated right upon skating
 

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we all pawn skated right upon skating
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hockey fans a lot of figure skating it
 

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hockey fans a lot of figure skating it
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is massachusetts in january yeah but
 

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is massachusetts in january yeah but
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just be aware look around i mean we had
 

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just be aware look around i mean we had
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the second person that went through the
 

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the second person that went through the
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ice i think we think went over to get
 

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ice i think we think went over to get
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the hockey stick of the first person who
 

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the hockey stick of the first person who
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went through the ice went over right
 

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went through the ice went over right
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near that hole and fell through so
 

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near that hole and fell through so
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there's also some common sense um
 

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there's also some common sense um
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that area was surprising from
 

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that area was surprising from
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what i saw also was
 

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what i saw also was
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there was water on top of the ice over
 

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there was water on top of the ice over
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where the people were falling through
 

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where the people were falling through
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okay so when you see signs like that you
 

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okay so when you see signs like that you
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see you see some shoreline water you see
 

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see you see some shoreline water you see
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some wetness out on the ice you see
 

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some wetness out on the ice you see
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other holes in the ice you might want to
 

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other holes in the ice you might want to
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