1 00:00:01,04 --> 00:00:05,43 The next item on the agenda is for social comments this is 2 00:00:05,44 --> 00:00:10,86 a opportunity for citizens to speak to issues that are not addressed in the agenda 3 00:00:11,17 --> 00:00:17,95 anyone want to speak. No one will move on to three four five and 4 00:00:17,96 --> 00:00:19,41 six we have a for 5 00:00:19,42 --> 00:00:22,84 a been applications anybody want to discuss those separately or is there any 6 00:00:22,85 --> 00:00:29,61 question OK. By good with. Let's talk about number six. 7 00:00:36,10 --> 00:00:39,20 Well. They're going to come on up we can. 8 00:00:44,86 --> 00:00:51,79 Have the event organizers will. Know we've got to organize are 9 00:00:51,80 --> 00:00:57,60 here. Down there and I'm going to start to finish it right. 10 00:01:01,76 --> 00:01:05,70 There given a number of you. Yes this is a five K. 11 00:01:05,71 --> 00:01:09,13 Run that's being held on Memorial Day it's out about 12 00:01:09,14 --> 00:01:13,06 a mom I think we have the streets bust it starts at eight and look at do you want 13 00:01:13,07 --> 00:01:18,54 sports and ends at the one sports. Center of the problem from eight to ten and all 14 00:01:18,55 --> 00:01:24,59 these kind of rolling street closures. Or if it is the first time. 15 00:01:25,74 --> 00:01:29,33 And I believe I am the organization that benefits is not alone you might want to 16 00:01:29,34 --> 00:01:34,09 talk a little bit about the losers the races in honor of Josh spires who is 17 00:01:34,10 --> 00:01:39,24 a captain in the Army and he died in the everything for the benefits not alone 18 00:01:39,25 --> 00:01:45,26 which is an organization that helps families and loved ones who have paddled lost. 19 00:01:46,28 --> 00:01:51,63 In the war and then also it helps them readjust back into fighting the soldiers 20 00:01:51,69 --> 00:01:57,52 that were at war and how is it. That we're going to zation has different types of 21 00:01:57,53 --> 00:02:02,71 programs that are in place that can. With their mental adjustment back into society 22 00:02:02,72 --> 00:02:04,85 with any kind of post C.S. 23 00:02:05,47 --> 00:02:08,99 Post-traumatic stress disorder that they're having and also have 24 00:02:09,00 --> 00:02:13,57 a network of people that they can talk about what they experienced or interact it's 25 00:02:13,58 --> 00:02:19,50 just for a local. That's it is. Not alone it's 26 00:02:19,51 --> 00:02:24,44 a local organization their offices in Nashville downtown Nashville Tenn do you want 27 00:02:24,45 --> 00:02:31,07 to partner with them to be the presenting sponsor so they. Offered to have the race 28 00:02:31,08 --> 00:02:37,88 after location once and then just buyer's he's from Tennessee. 29 00:02:38,90 --> 00:02:39,33 So he's 30 00:02:39,34 --> 00:02:46,91 a local. So. The question. Probably 31 00:02:46,91 --> 00:02:52,22 . This is your relation with tax exempt organizations you've got to appeal to know 32 00:02:52,22 --> 00:02:58,45 . What their future is you're I think yes well I want to see three literary 33 00:02:59,44 --> 00:03:00,75 defenders organization is 34 00:03:00,76 --> 00:03:06,83 a for profit that all the parties are going to novel and that's. OK they're playing 35 00:03:06,84 --> 00:03:13,41 exists. To all the merchants here blow out. We approve this 36 00:03:13,97 --> 00:03:19,81 you will go out after you. I think the letter should go out before. 37 00:03:20,91 --> 00:03:27,32 That's my comment I think you should be free to say this if you are in the in the 38 00:03:27,33 --> 00:03:32,84 in the they were they got something going so it was thirty one virgins here but 39 00:03:32,93 --> 00:03:38,14 those I'm sorry the merchants are listed on that comment for actually the merchants 40 00:03:38,47 --> 00:03:43,50 of course when it went around the mall but we recently changed the course because I 41 00:03:43,54 --> 00:03:48,13 talked to the general manager at the mall and they're open on Memorial Day and so 42 00:03:48,14 --> 00:03:52,95 work changing the course to be slightly different from what the merchants were down 43 00:03:52,96 --> 00:03:55,68 there. I can provide you with an app today 44 00:03:55,69 --> 00:03:59,61 a merchant lists and send the good neighbor letter out ahead of time. 45 00:04:02,80 --> 00:04:09,55 This is not for the two weeks we could. Send letters in the meantime to 46 00:04:09,59 --> 00:04:16,25 the to the list that turns out the life we know. That would be surprised 47 00:04:16,30 --> 00:04:20,20 somebody who want open letter. To. Send 48 00:04:20,21 --> 00:04:27,03 a letter out the list and buy more just zero point four million more tips 49 00:04:27,04 --> 00:04:32,22 that's all the new list a lot of bills. As 50 00:04:32,23 --> 00:04:38,18 a general practice just give us some feedback if you want to or down the line which 51 00:04:38,19 --> 00:04:39,44 you'd like us to send them 52 00:04:39,48 --> 00:04:45,27 a letter in the intervening time between this work session in the final I would if 53 00:04:45,28 --> 00:04:49,18 you could have it two weeks put it that way at least we'd get your initial input if 54 00:04:49,19 --> 00:04:49,38 there's 55 00:04:49,39 --> 00:04:54,83 a change and that letter can reflect the change and that goes really after tonight 56 00:04:55,39 --> 00:04:59,76 and is out there for. Two weeks before you would. 57 00:05:03,45 --> 00:05:06,23 Move you know Number seven consideration or 58 00:05:06,24 --> 00:05:09,46 a. Resolution two thousand and twelve seventeen 59 00:05:09,47 --> 00:05:13,87 a resolution opposing legislation that limits the city's authority over the world 60 00:05:13,88 --> 00:05:19,61 will. You just comment you have been requested. 61 00:05:20,97 --> 00:05:25,38 By the board to provide this and I think we've provided you with the governmental 62 00:05:25,39 --> 00:05:27,09 information that provides 63 00:05:27,10 --> 00:05:31,71 a little summary about the bills that we had invested in this list was created at 64 00:05:31,72 --> 00:05:36,42 the request of our budget slate of delegation of about two weeks ago some folks 65 00:05:36,43 --> 00:05:41,37 from Brentwood city Franklin and when some county all sat down with our legislators 66 00:05:41,38 --> 00:05:45,94 delegation to share some concerns there are some some bills going through that 67 00:05:45,98 --> 00:05:51,01 really do have some impact and attend to and in general seem to limit at level 68 00:05:51,02 --> 00:05:56,00 forty and it's inclusive of everything from land use and planning efforts to 69 00:05:56,82 --> 00:06:01,58 residential sprinkler systems to the sale of fireworks. In your community there's 70 00:06:01,59 --> 00:06:02,20 a there's 71 00:06:02,21 --> 00:06:06,89 a whole list of different different things that all kind of impact what we're able 72 00:06:06,90 --> 00:06:11,75 to do and either take tools out of our toolkit in terms of things we might want to 73 00:06:11,76 --> 00:06:15,15 consider and use in our I work every day as 74 00:06:15,16 --> 00:06:19,76 a local government were specifically. To make 75 00:06:19,77 --> 00:06:23,22 a policy. Statement or provide essentially 76 00:06:23,23 --> 00:06:27,65 a statewide policy whether that's the exact intent or not it has that impact at the 77 00:06:27,66 --> 00:06:33,40 end of the day and so we felt it was important to speak up about those items and 78 00:06:33,83 --> 00:06:39,81 emphasize the importance of local autonomy local decision making because ours is 79 00:06:39,82 --> 00:06:41,05 a diverse state there's 80 00:06:41,06 --> 00:06:45,76 a lot of different communities and what's right for Franklin may not be right for 81 00:06:45,77 --> 00:06:52,56 Fairview or. Take your pick whatever city you know so that that 82 00:06:52,57 --> 00:06:58,46 diversity of choice that you give local governments to tailor policies and work in 83 00:06:58,47 --> 00:07:03,03 our community to our communities needs is important and so that's where this came 84 00:07:03,04 --> 00:07:06,45 from. Going to ask if we might want to consider putting 85 00:07:06,46 --> 00:07:13,12 a more broad. Resolution before the board to get that emphasis of the 86 00:07:13,37 --> 00:07:17,75 words intent behind it and so that's what we attempted to draft and we did in 87 00:07:17,81 --> 00:07:20,70 included with that more general resolution a look 88 00:07:20,93 --> 00:07:26,05 a working list of the items that are of concern at this point obviously legislation 89 00:07:26,06 --> 00:07:26,17 is 90 00:07:26,18 --> 00:07:31,74 a fluid process we don't know when or where any one of these may be going some of them 91 00:07:31,75 --> 00:07:34,91 do get amended over time to to maybe make them 92 00:07:34,92 --> 00:07:40,85 a little more. Palatable to local government but this concern remains and that's 93 00:07:40,86 --> 00:07:46,09 really our intent not so much to weigh in on the specific. Content of some of these 94 00:07:46,10 --> 00:07:50,63 bills but the general theme of local authority in protecting our ability to make 95 00:07:50,64 --> 00:07:57,43 decisions for ourselves. One more in you know. You did mention that we 96 00:07:57,44 --> 00:08:01,38 had. Brentwood. In the county represented with 97 00:08:01,39 --> 00:08:05,42 a meeting where we discussed this with our legislators but that was it to 98 00:08:05,43 --> 00:08:11,43 executives committee meeting of the mayors caucus to every mayor that was there is 99 00:08:11,44 --> 00:08:16,48 pretty nervous and anxious about these things and how to fix their local community 100 00:08:16,49 --> 00:08:23,14 in fact. They used our resolution to pass out to the 101 00:08:23,15 --> 00:08:29,08 entire forty member group to consider approval and we're going to try to get 102 00:08:29,23 --> 00:08:35,70 they're going to try to get that out by tomorrow. So I think that tells you how on 103 00:08:35,71 --> 00:08:41,40 are sick of the Yes sir you know that this is one of these in all these areas the 104 00:08:41,41 --> 00:08:47,20 decision is better made at the local community. The poor for these things. 105 00:08:48,33 --> 00:08:48,81 There's 106 00:08:48,82 --> 00:08:55,63 a. Sense of accountability at our level you 107 00:08:55,64 --> 00:09:02,33 know if we do something that contrary to what the citizens want in this area they 108 00:09:02,34 --> 00:09:07,90 have recourse to pretty want to replace us you know what then that is the next 109 00:09:08,44 --> 00:09:14,38 election now when you when you do this at the state level it's much harder to have 110 00:09:14,39 --> 00:09:18,72 any recourse about the direction these go through so we spend 111 00:09:18,73 --> 00:09:22,15 a great deal of time on a zone I mean we we require 112 00:09:22,16 --> 00:09:28,35 a neighborhood meetings we have public hearings before we vote on these things and 113 00:09:28,92 --> 00:09:34,25 Franklin is part of the way we are in the community that we are is because of the 114 00:09:34,26 --> 00:09:38,11 hottest standards that we have and I just don't think it's 115 00:09:38,12 --> 00:09:43,27 a good idea for the you know the state to dictate what we're going to be able to do 116 00:09:43,27 --> 00:09:49,23 . With within the normal zoning and those those types of ordinances. 117 00:09:50,58 --> 00:09:56,43 Well remark we bring you that with no legs like that what was the response to your 118 00:09:56,44 --> 00:10:03,39 feelings. Well we could 119 00:10:03,40 --> 00:10:10,30 replace. Understood where we were coming from I don't think we 120 00:10:10,31 --> 00:10:10,73 lift with 121 00:10:10,74 --> 00:10:17,72 a promise from any of them but I think you got the message. Person 122 00:10:17,73 --> 00:10:23,69 let us know there are thousands. Every. Session and because of that they didn't 123 00:10:23,70 --> 00:10:29,04 know exactly which bill that's how they asked this one because they didn't know 124 00:10:29,08 --> 00:10:33,91 every single bill they were talking about the statement was made especially as 125 00:10:33,92 --> 00:10:39,87 a relates to planning zoning land use issues that the complaints in issues that 126 00:10:39,88 --> 00:10:45,06 have kind of generated this. Point and County Franklin Brentwood they don't at all 127 00:10:45,10 --> 00:10:50,59 in fact they said our community is one that is held up as one that does it right 128 00:10:50,63 --> 00:10:56,52 generally but that didn't change the fact that these kind of broad legislative 129 00:10:56,53 --> 00:11:00,39 actions could inhibit our ability to continue to do it right and protect 130 00:11:00,40 --> 00:11:06,13 investments that our citizens and local businesses make so I think there's an 131 00:11:06,14 --> 00:11:11,23 understanding of that there are some specific concerns that have happened various 132 00:11:11,24 --> 00:11:13,98 places in the States or you know I would put in the category of 133 00:11:13,99 --> 00:11:19,46 a local story that happened some property owner somewhere that has captured the 134 00:11:19,47 --> 00:11:23,06 attention of some folks in the legislature and they're trying to figure out 135 00:11:23,07 --> 00:11:27,50 a way to respond and help with that situation and I guess my response would be well 136 00:11:28,12 --> 00:11:33,42 that local authorities accountable for the appropriate use of those powers and you 137 00:11:33,43 --> 00:11:37,33 know those abilities don't. Present 138 00:11:37,34 --> 00:11:42,67 a one size fits all solution to that problem but I think that's kind of where 139 00:11:42,68 --> 00:11:46,82 that's coming from but they specifically said you know these issues don't come from 140 00:11:47,31 --> 00:11:52,09 our community specifically the tend to be coming from other places but this is how 141 00:11:52,10 --> 00:11:58,19 the at least some legislators are reacting to it putting ideas for. Or 142 00:11:59,17 --> 00:12:04,76 over here. Well much like. Much like. 143 00:12:07,20 --> 00:12:12,77 I've one problem is some of these things I believe should the only road to the 144 00:12:12,78 --> 00:12:19,41 local decision making zoning land use regulations that kind of thing I think those 145 00:12:19,42 --> 00:12:24,63 are. I would agree to those are things that the group Mr Skinner those are things 146 00:12:24,64 --> 00:12:30,43 that the local authorities need to be. Able to govern as they see fit at the local 147 00:12:30,44 --> 00:12:34,44 level. However there are other things where preemption is 148 00:12:34,45 --> 00:12:39,12 a state preemption is appropriate when I say preemption what I mean is but for the 149 00:12:39,13 --> 00:12:45,24 state to make the law of the land uniform by removing authority from local. 150 00:12:46,52 --> 00:12:53,02 Governments because there are certain things about which we need one law across the 151 00:12:53,03 --> 00:12:59,54 state. And one in particular that I would say that one subject that I would say 152 00:12:59,68 --> 00:13:06,07 falls in that category is something like ten gun permits and carry on I mean. 153 00:13:07,48 --> 00:13:07,70 It's 154 00:13:07,71 --> 00:13:12,56 a mess when you start learning new each and every county and municipal How do you. 155 00:13:13,80 --> 00:13:20,19 Start making exceptions to what is generally Otherwise the law. People don't want 156 00:13:20,20 --> 00:13:26,94 to be Tom. They don't want to commit crimes unknowingly because they left one party 157 00:13:26,95 --> 00:13:32,53 and went to another day so there are there are areas within which subject matter is 158 00:13:32,54 --> 00:13:38,90 within which I think the state preemption is appropriate however. Local zoning 159 00:13:39,45 --> 00:13:43,16 is not one of them so it's disappointing to see Representative tacet 160 00:13:43,17 --> 00:13:50,04 a sponsor and. See at least one. Bill but I'm not I feel sure we 161 00:13:50,05 --> 00:13:55,97 I would oppose it which is the House bill thirteen forty five which would require 162 00:13:55,98 --> 00:13:59,58 permission from every property owner before local government can resign 163 00:13:59,59 --> 00:14:05,58 a piece of pie. That that's chaos that's. 164 00:14:08,73 --> 00:14:13,50 That's net net. That doesn't work. 165 00:14:15,81 --> 00:14:21,55 However I think we make the same mistake that the state is making if we try to lump 166 00:14:22,21 --> 00:14:27,21 twenty different bills in the one exhibit and say we oppose these I for one don't 167 00:14:27,22 --> 00:14:32,73 oppose all these all these these pieces of legislation some of them I pose 168 00:14:32,74 --> 00:14:36,12 adamantly as a citizen first not just as 169 00:14:36,13 --> 00:14:40,52 a local elected official but others of these I think you know there may be not 170 00:14:40,53 --> 00:14:45,66 knowing any more never know about except for the you know fifty word caption on 171 00:14:45,67 --> 00:14:50,10 them some of them I don't I don't apologise so much like the state is making 172 00:14:50,11 --> 00:14:55,36 a mistake by trying to legislate with a broad brush I think for us to pass 173 00:14:55,37 --> 00:15:00,25 a resolution. You know complaining about twenty pieces of legislation saying we 174 00:15:00,26 --> 00:15:04,47 don't like any other. Or we just like all of them I think is 175 00:15:04,48 --> 00:15:08,95 a mistake and I mean unless we're prepared to start picking and choosing which ones 176 00:15:08,96 --> 00:15:11,85 we want on the list. I can't support 177 00:15:11,86 --> 00:15:15,38 a resolution that throws them all on the list and you support it without number 178 00:15:15,39 --> 00:15:20,70 three. Or that issue number three didn't we it was it is not so much that kind of 179 00:15:20,71 --> 00:15:25,12 a parking lot that the problem the problem that it does provide for an opt out if 180 00:15:25,13 --> 00:15:30,72 the community decides to opt out you are still only liable if that employee is 181 00:15:30,73 --> 00:15:31,72 harmed as 182 00:15:31,73 --> 00:15:35,19 a victim of some sort of crime and you didn't allow them to have their gun in their 183 00:15:35,20 --> 00:15:38,29 car even if they were a victim on the front of the first floor of 184 00:15:38,30 --> 00:15:42,08 a three story to rise and their cars at the third floor you're still several 185 00:15:42,09 --> 00:15:46,77 allowable for their care that there are problems with that bill it's not so much 186 00:15:46,78 --> 00:15:49,03 the gun no partner it's a draft in such 187 00:15:49,04 --> 00:15:52,37 a way that we can't really do anything problem is the problem is all these no 188 00:15:52,93 --> 00:15:54,54 statutes that purport to convey 189 00:15:54,55 --> 00:15:59,98 a right and then allow people to opt out of it. So that the problem is the problem 190 00:15:59,98 --> 00:16:06,43 . Is twofold one. One of those problems is that you you shouldn't be creating 191 00:16:06,74 --> 00:16:13,04 legislation that says you can't you can't prohibit this but then say same time well 192 00:16:13,05 --> 00:16:16,11 you can but maybe stop with the bill with you I mean 193 00:16:16,12 --> 00:16:21,12 a financial responsibility here so I mean I don't particularly like that 194 00:16:21,13 --> 00:16:22,38 legislation but as 195 00:16:22,39 --> 00:16:28,09 a general matter I think the subject matter of of handgun permits should be. 196 00:16:29,25 --> 00:16:30,89 A state wide regulation 197 00:16:31,05 --> 00:16:36,64 a state wide uniform law as I am going to carry permit holder and I don't I don't 198 00:16:36,65 --> 00:16:42,52 want to have to wonder when I go from one county to the next whether I may somehow 199 00:16:42,53 --> 00:16:49,28 be unknowingly violating that county's opt out law that that's why I oppose the 200 00:16:50,04 --> 00:16:53,38 way we treated parks here when we did it and I think the state made 201 00:16:53,39 --> 00:16:58,74 a mistake there by granting the local authorities the power to opt out and you know 202 00:16:58,75 --> 00:16:59,52 I mean it became 203 00:16:59,53 --> 00:17:03,48 a mess here and there are now there are there are places you know you can go from 204 00:17:03,49 --> 00:17:07,67 one county to the next and even within one county there are parts in which you can 205 00:17:07,68 --> 00:17:13,07 carry in something which you can't and I just mean the state did no one any favors 206 00:17:13,08 --> 00:17:15,05 by by creating 207 00:17:15,06 --> 00:17:18,65 a law and then allowing opting out if they're going to preempt something nations 208 00:17:18,66 --> 00:17:20,46 preempt. And that's 209 00:17:20,47 --> 00:17:24,23 a shower after question about what Dan just said not that didn't we pull out some 210 00:17:24,24 --> 00:17:29,31 of those and not those are. All that we were asked for 211 00:17:29,32 --> 00:17:32,18 a list that we rise ago we provided 212 00:17:32,19 --> 00:17:36,15 a list that was one of them had been tricky things about how to write this. 213 00:17:37,18 --> 00:17:42,10 Generally or whether they could provide the list that we had been asked by our 214 00:17:42,11 --> 00:17:46,84 joint legislators what good items concern you at some level and so we tried to 215 00:17:47,07 --> 00:17:53,34 provide that less so this listening to it. Is that those that believe it believe 216 00:17:53,35 --> 00:17:57,73 are true and have actually made up their best entirely out of this is thoughtful 217 00:17:58,21 --> 00:17:58,82 and this is 218 00:17:58,83 --> 00:18:05,55 a stash. Bills that are so many problems but we have these are the rights that if 219 00:18:05,56 --> 00:18:10,80 they pass will be detrimental and the ones we listed and said you know well I've 220 00:18:10,81 --> 00:18:14,38 talked with the ones with some concert production but there's 221 00:18:14,39 --> 00:18:20,48 a right wing in the ark now and I would like to point out the missionaries half to 222 00:18:21,31 --> 00:18:25,40 submit to the ethics commission like you do with your complex of interest that's 223 00:18:25,41 --> 00:18:28,01 a new law that they're looking at Happening now but that may be 224 00:18:28,02 --> 00:18:31,37 a good idea to let the Planning Commission require the Planning Commission to 225 00:18:31,38 --> 00:18:36,58 submit an ethics report we don't know what that puts these most of these things and 226 00:18:36,65 --> 00:18:42,11 if they pass we very detrimental to how we do business and to follow degree. 227 00:18:43,64 --> 00:18:49,93 As has been stated in general in many of these bills and by planning and zoning 228 00:18:50,36 --> 00:18:55,30 and we have been given an earlier list that I notice not all of those around here 229 00:18:55,75 --> 00:19:02,52 but. They're up there cried in there and brought here. To that is Dr 230 00:19:03,52 --> 00:19:10,41 plainly and and and in fact Dr kept in touch with that maybe less and less 231 00:19:10,42 --> 00:19:16,25 than forty percent of the counties would have zones and so to have it's Birlasoft 232 00:19:16,26 --> 00:19:23,03 sleigh ride the implication could never There are so many are there so few counties 233 00:19:23,04 --> 00:19:27,34 that actually have so many that it would really it would really hurt us and it 234 00:19:27,35 --> 00:19:33,24 really would really have an effect on the others actually happening. Chamber of 235 00:19:33,25 --> 00:19:38,32 Commerce or early morning roundtable I did say something because I never get the 236 00:19:38,33 --> 00:19:42,77 information on the player that not all of those people that play it and I do admit 237 00:19:42,78 --> 00:19:49,17 to that to legislate or accept that and I also noticed something today didn't care 238 00:19:49,18 --> 00:19:51,36 there were nine hundred from the T.M.A.O. 239 00:19:51,61 --> 00:19:56,42 That some of those things will bring better soon might be right now so I think it's 240 00:19:56,43 --> 00:20:01,39 very important that as I say I can't stand. I know but everyone. 241 00:20:04,56 --> 00:20:09,49 Most of the most conservative the. Old Bird. 242 00:20:13,10 --> 00:20:18,35 I think Dan makes some very valid points but at the same time I think we need to 243 00:20:18,36 --> 00:20:18,54 send 244 00:20:18,55 --> 00:20:23,70 a message to them that. I'm going to make an amendment tonight and I want to read 245 00:20:23,71 --> 00:20:26,07 it to you so you could think about it but you've got 246 00:20:26,31 --> 00:20:31,83 a seat here says The Whereas on this resolution One two three four. 247 00:20:33,11 --> 00:20:38,08 Whereas I just think we need to be able get more strong about that and it says 248 00:20:38,09 --> 00:20:41,34 where is the city believes that many of the bills listed below will have 249 00:20:41,35 --> 00:20:46,01 a detrimental effect on the city I want to say where is the sea believes that many 250 00:20:46,02 --> 00:20:50,94 of the bills listed below are bag undefined and broad reaching and will have 251 00:20:50,95 --> 00:20:55,15 a detrimental effect on the city because they need to know why we're saying this to 252 00:20:55,19 --> 00:20:58,80 their vego and find the broad reaching and if I'm not mistaken these are capture 253 00:20:58,81 --> 00:21:03,83 bills too they're capturing and that's of things they're doing these are not as 254 00:21:03,84 --> 00:21:08,44 written these are going to be rewritten so but I do get them 255 00:21:08,45 --> 00:21:14,93 a good maybe myself. Some of defining redefined make time for it's hard to put up 256 00:21:14,94 --> 00:21:18,86 but I've been going through this entire packet with all these bills in here and 257 00:21:19,13 --> 00:21:22,94 there are some crazy things in here that would take where authorities and the other 258 00:21:22,95 --> 00:21:25,55 thing think they're addressing here is that Jenna twenty one which I know 259 00:21:25,56 --> 00:21:29,40 a lot of people talk about this really this resolution that we're doing tonight is 260 00:21:29,41 --> 00:21:34,21 not addressing that on the last one I think there's two or three of them in there 261 00:21:34,76 --> 00:21:41,41 actually one for sure about twenty one but I think it's three four or seven. House 262 00:21:41,42 --> 00:21:47,36 Bill. And. We need we need to get 263 00:21:47,37 --> 00:21:50,89 a little bit more educated on this because some things we're getting into the city 264 00:21:51,81 --> 00:21:55,08 for doing some great things to bring down our cost 265 00:21:55,58 --> 00:22:00,48 a few more responsible for our tax dollars do these things stand dealing with bank 266 00:22:00,49 --> 00:22:05,51 programs all these great things but we share some commonalities of words that are 267 00:22:05,64 --> 00:22:07,23 found in just twenty one which is 268 00:22:07,24 --> 00:22:13,24 a human agenda and. And I want to get into that because I don't think we should at 269 00:22:13,25 --> 00:22:15,86 this point but it is a U.N. 270 00:22:16,05 --> 00:22:22,21 Agenda now thirty that is moving covering it over the federal level trickling down 271 00:22:22,22 --> 00:22:26,77 to the state levels where we have states right now having issues with it and then 272 00:22:26,95 --> 00:22:31,33 have it in the county in the city and I think the state is correct and right to 273 00:22:31,34 --> 00:22:35,36 address that I think they should address it but the way they're addressing in the 274 00:22:35,37 --> 00:22:40,26 here is just really brought really bad is totally undefined how can you support 275 00:22:40,27 --> 00:22:45,09 that I couldn't support that the way they did they they don't even define it so I 276 00:22:45,10 --> 00:22:48,43 was going to put something in there about that but it really doesn't address that 277 00:22:48,87 --> 00:22:51,20 but I do think we ought to talk about being vegan to find 278 00:22:51,21 --> 00:22:56,14 a broad reaching. But I truly agree and I think there are some things in here that 279 00:22:56,56 --> 00:23:01,28 and I don't think there's anything that we call I mean. The gun thing is when he 280 00:23:01,29 --> 00:23:08,27 did this and she never was that it is odd out Section twenty one twenty one 281 00:23:08,69 --> 00:23:14,41 Yeah OK it's really that's why abilities I mean it's very hard it's difficult I 282 00:23:14,42 --> 00:23:21,24 want to get it for the person OK I can support why are we here. But. 283 00:23:22,39 --> 00:23:26,96 Why because the students. Are I mean I get why as 284 00:23:26,97 --> 00:23:33,54 a city. Because every other one on this list more or less goes to proper 285 00:23:33,59 --> 00:23:39,20 regulation or you know NEWSROOM you know. I'm in control you know regulation the 286 00:23:39,21 --> 00:23:45,27 first you know the sign you in the grandfathering non-permitted you fear the. 287 00:23:47,83 --> 00:23:54,71 Rezoning not going to. Work Why or why are local governments why 288 00:23:54,72 --> 00:23:58,78 is this local government taking a position on 289 00:23:58,79 --> 00:24:05,77 a piece of legislation that. As I read it. Doesn't 290 00:24:06,68 --> 00:24:13,67 doesn't change what our authority is. In the regulation of handgun carry permits it 291 00:24:13,68 --> 00:24:19,61 merely allows people to carry. A firearm to store 292 00:24:19,62 --> 00:24:26,39 a firearm in their car while at work but it allows an employee to opt out all but 293 00:24:26,45 --> 00:24:31,00 if they off now then they could be held liable if that employee is a victim of 294 00:24:31,01 --> 00:24:36,57 a crime on the grounds that touch upon workers that confine or circumscribe the 295 00:24:36,58 --> 00:24:41,83 city's interest in regulating anything but apartment now as I understand it right 296 00:24:41,84 --> 00:24:46,67 now you can't have guns in our park to run that would do as it would change it to 297 00:24:46,68 --> 00:24:52,00 where you guys have to opt in or opt out if you choose to opt out and maintain the 298 00:24:52,01 --> 00:24:56,60 status quo which means time running not just from your point of an employer right. 299 00:24:57,67 --> 00:25:03,54 Right. And you don't know how we now know it would it would change how you do 300 00:25:03,55 --> 00:25:06,79 things we would have to do something about it that's not on 301 00:25:06,80 --> 00:25:12,05 a lot of people we are good Roger he said it's just that it is 302 00:25:12,06 --> 00:25:17,53 a public facility so he answers. I'm not sure I agree with every reading of the 303 00:25:17,54 --> 00:25:22,22 statute as it exists but OK. Right I read the first. 304 00:25:26,69 --> 00:25:31,87 Thing to put in so I'm just telling it. As it's pretty we're trying to identify 305 00:25:31,88 --> 00:25:33,15 things that that might have 306 00:25:33,16 --> 00:25:37,15 a real negative impact on us there are certain common themes I agree 307 00:25:37,16 --> 00:25:42,91 a lot of land use and zoning and planning related theory says that's the 308 00:25:42,92 --> 00:25:48,44 predominance of the others residential sprinkler being once again we haven't made 309 00:25:48,45 --> 00:25:51,84 a decision on that locally but it sure would be great 310 00:25:51,85 --> 00:25:57,87 a good bit have options and take that option away to me is what I reject the most 311 00:25:57,91 --> 00:26:02,95 so that's what we're trying to capture is things that put local governments and 312 00:26:02,96 --> 00:26:06,51 very challenging positions to make decisions that they think are appropriate for 313 00:26:06,52 --> 00:26:12,98 their community. So I don't know how you want to handle. Part of this I think the 314 00:26:12,99 --> 00:26:17,76 front end and all remembers offer good potential men and we might hear later 315 00:26:17,77 --> 00:26:21,87 tonight but I think the front of the desk captures the principles we're trying to 316 00:26:21,88 --> 00:26:27,41 get at it's just what the list of bills exactly fit that is what's challenging 317 00:26:27,42 --> 00:26:33,15 mayor of them and. To me that the better way to address this by what first of all 318 00:26:33,56 --> 00:26:37,83 so presumptuous to think that the city of Franklin resolution is going to change 319 00:26:37,84 --> 00:26:42,69 what people who sponsor these bills think anyway OK and I'm cynical enough think of 320 00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:46,92 some of these people sponsor these so they claim sponsorship whether they are pets 321 00:26:46,93 --> 00:26:50,45 or not they don't get OK from. The meat 322 00:26:50,46 --> 00:26:54,07 a better way to address this is rather than call out these bills by numbers 323 00:26:54,72 --> 00:27:01,63 remember this bill. And so the omission could be you know held read back to us oh 324 00:27:01,64 --> 00:27:06,51 you didn't tell me you didn't like that one OK And so one day I think maybe the 325 00:27:06,52 --> 00:27:11,82 better thing to do is to tell them you know resolution form we have ject escape. 326 00:27:12,85 --> 00:27:18,88 Dismantling and got this and you know and and if this aerating the local 327 00:27:18,89 --> 00:27:25,19 governments of forty regulate land and zoning in and. 328 00:27:26,55 --> 00:27:32,48 Plant that that captures you know now as an employer we may have some beefs with 329 00:27:32,49 --> 00:27:36,81 one regulation or another but I mean we're in the same boat as everyone else when 330 00:27:36,82 --> 00:27:42,40 it comes to that OK I mean you know great you know any employer up and down the 331 00:27:42,41 --> 00:27:49,37 street is subject to the same rules that that particular law I think think that 332 00:27:49,38 --> 00:27:55,30 I would rather do was tell them Please don't be meddling and zoning land use and 333 00:27:56,19 --> 00:27:58,18 that kind of thing so rather than give them 334 00:27:58,19 --> 00:28:01,20 a list of things we don't like I tell them subject matter we don't want them 335 00:28:01,21 --> 00:28:05,70 meddling and we thought about that but when we met with their representatives great 336 00:28:05,71 --> 00:28:08,79 they understand it because they want to know what numbers do you want us to vote 337 00:28:08,80 --> 00:28:14,36 against well that was clever. Oh so OK so now I would prefer you go to have seven 338 00:28:14,37 --> 00:28:19,17 little ones you sponsor to explain my point is that you know they may they just 339 00:28:19,18 --> 00:28:22,06 want to look through this list and say OK which ones truly Are they had 340 00:28:22,07 --> 00:28:24,95 a problem with that's why we did it this way 341 00:28:25,19 --> 00:28:28,89 a man happy to take take we have the document that you guys have attached the 342 00:28:28,90 --> 00:28:32,26 proposed legislation we can that we can just send that letter form I'm happy to do 343 00:28:32,27 --> 00:28:36,59 that if you'd rather do that. Because they are going to want to know when we go in 344 00:28:36,60 --> 00:28:39,80 and hear about the which ones in particular you have 345 00:28:39,81 --> 00:28:45,81 a problem and then they went to him start with the username because if you do they 346 00:28:45,85 --> 00:28:50,21 do they ask for details of why and because like yeah they did OK here's 347 00:28:50,22 --> 00:28:56,13 a great example one sprinklers and I don't want to do government regulations I 348 00:28:56,14 --> 00:29:00,16 don't want to put in more regulations on people than we have to I mean government 349 00:29:00,17 --> 00:29:05,60 really gets out of control and so many regulations. We try to hold that 350 00:29:05,61 --> 00:29:07,60 a bank in Franklin but you know we try to do 351 00:29:07,61 --> 00:29:11,21 a good job with that but just like sprinklers I don't want to make 352 00:29:11,27 --> 00:29:16,01 a broad sweeping. Ordinances says everybody that builds 353 00:29:16,02 --> 00:29:18,25 a new building or builds on your house has to have 354 00:29:18,26 --> 00:29:20,52 a sprinkler but yet when you have 355 00:29:20,53 --> 00:29:25,85 a development like when state when your house is very close together and get 356 00:29:25,86 --> 00:29:29,56 a lot of density that affects your neighbor's house of your house goes up 357 00:29:29,57 --> 00:29:33,58 a spokeswoman You may have two or three houses on fire just like that also we're 358 00:29:33,74 --> 00:29:35,38 talking we're now talking about you know if you had 359 00:29:35,39 --> 00:29:38,76 a house on top of the hill and you can't get the water pressure up there that's 360 00:29:38,77 --> 00:29:41,54 when you need to have sprinklers So we need this sort of 361 00:29:41,55 --> 00:29:45,30 a lonely Look that's what what I say out of their representatives was one of the 362 00:29:45,31 --> 00:29:47,68 city who like to exempt this requirement at this time 363 00:29:47,69 --> 00:29:50,57 a sprinkler night when they wish to revisit the issue at 364 00:29:50,58 --> 00:29:54,25 a future date when I feel guilty now where you say don't take it or don't take it 365 00:29:54,26 --> 00:29:58,29 away absolutely let us be able to look at because it's not that we necessarily want 366 00:29:58,30 --> 00:30:02,38 to put that regulation on but there may be cases where we need to do that because 367 00:30:02,39 --> 00:30:04,98 when you have the deaths you have no water pressure to get 368 00:30:04,99 --> 00:30:07,87 a fire you can't get fired to keep your water 369 00:30:07,88 --> 00:30:12,24 a better look wish you had it is going to be there. Exactly what this does is take 370 00:30:12,25 --> 00:30:17,65 are thirty points I will support that but. I don't know who was there Richelle 371 00:30:17,66 --> 00:30:21,51 thank you. Well it's now been amended. 372 00:30:24,96 --> 00:30:28,76 You should ask someone to sponsor that legislation that's basically 373 00:30:28,77 --> 00:30:34,23 a little bit less an amendment has made it provided some forty but it requires 374 00:30:34,24 --> 00:30:40,86 right now as amended two thirds vote of the local body to enact it. That would put 375 00:30:40,87 --> 00:30:42,02 it in the same level as 376 00:30:42,03 --> 00:30:46,98 a charter amendment. We don't have that kind of requirement for anything else we do 377 00:30:47,91 --> 00:30:51,45 you know we vote for millions of dollars for projects annexations all sorts of 378 00:30:51,46 --> 00:30:54,29 other things with reasonings with with 379 00:30:54,30 --> 00:31:00,79 a simple majority of this board and that's been raised. And even members talked 380 00:31:00,80 --> 00:31:06,39 about this today but they for whatever reason didn't address the issue. A smaller 381 00:31:06,40 --> 00:31:10,37 body a body of eight that two thirds turns into six of 382 00:31:10,38 --> 00:31:16,03 a. Body of five which is not uncommon That's four of five that would have to 383 00:31:16,04 --> 00:31:16,97 approve it so I brought 384 00:31:16,98 --> 00:31:22,01 a smaller body which is typical of most cities or boards is going to have 385 00:31:22,02 --> 00:31:26,84 a huge number so two thirds can turn into seventy five or eighty percent pretty 386 00:31:26,85 --> 00:31:28,18 quickly which is 387 00:31:28,19 --> 00:31:34,11 a pretty high threshold and ironically the state is voting this in potentially on 388 00:31:34,12 --> 00:31:39,95 a simple majority. Of. Our 389 00:31:40,68 --> 00:31:46,08 representatives to specify which bills will go on you know we could argue about 390 00:31:46,09 --> 00:31:48,46 this for the next two months but there's 391 00:31:48,47 --> 00:31:53,59 a time limit to this because many of these things are being voted on as we speak. 392 00:31:55,05 --> 00:32:01,61 So you know if we want to go through. This but I think it's what we. 393 00:32:03,97 --> 00:32:10,89 All. For the 394 00:32:11,05 --> 00:32:17,97 great. Number. Of separation bit words the office of. 395 00:32:19,79 --> 00:32:22,02 The Franklin honestly in the coal mine 396 00:32:22,03 --> 00:32:24,95 a live one thousand seven hundred thirty four dollars for crease supply and 397 00:32:24,96 --> 00:32:29,10 planning an oil contract first Interstate sixty five interchange of Q. 398 00:32:29,11 --> 00:32:35,63 And drive through the parks department this is the McEwen plan that was presented 399 00:32:35,64 --> 00:32:35,85 to you 400 00:32:35,86 --> 00:32:41,92 a couple meetings ago snacking groups here at our arborist this was it came in well 401 00:32:41,93 --> 00:32:45,38 below what we expected we did it because we thought it might go over twenty five 402 00:32:45,39 --> 00:32:51,54 thousand and it came in at around eleven thousand seven hundred so it's prepared 403 00:32:51,55 --> 00:32:57,64 for work based on that so. Tired of if there's anything else. You know are they 404 00:32:57,65 --> 00:33:02,81 supposed to be here for the year maybe two or three years. Thing that's required 405 00:33:03,37 --> 00:33:05,28 water control seize control. 406 00:33:12,93 --> 00:33:18,16 Number nine considerations sole source purchase trade in for two thousand and fifty 407 00:33:18,17 --> 00:33:25,10 nine hundred grand master MO or. So our dollars for our part question about that. 408 00:33:26,97 --> 00:33:33,34 It's lights. Yes or no that hasn't lived up to our expectations. 409 00:33:34,38 --> 00:33:38,10 In the fifty dead vendors working with us to replace it at 410 00:33:38,11 --> 00:33:44,43 a. Very low cost compared to the original acquisition which was what sixty four 411 00:33:44,44 --> 00:33:45,50 thousand to purchase but 412 00:33:45,51 --> 00:33:50,71 a new one now is more like seventy plus thousand so this will be 413 00:33:50,72 --> 00:33:53,28 a small source and to replace and we did this with 414 00:33:53,29 --> 00:33:56,83 a piece of equipment and solid waste a couple pieces of equipment waste 415 00:33:56,84 --> 00:33:58,73 a year or so ago and this is 416 00:33:58,74 --> 00:34:02,18 a similar arrangement where they're essential to working with us to provide 417 00:34:02,54 --> 00:34:08,40 a new piece of equipment in consideration for the problems we had with equipment we 418 00:34:08,41 --> 00:34:09,57 spent quite a bit of money on just 419 00:34:09,58 --> 00:34:16,02 a few years ago. Two thousand and twelve. Thanks for. 420 00:34:18,58 --> 00:34:25,10 The number to consider rejecting all bills for three rescue chancy placement some 421 00:34:25,11 --> 00:34:30,83 associated work for the fire department. This had been included in your budget. 422 00:34:32,53 --> 00:34:39,49 The. Memo covers that but that what came back was very expensive and had lots and 423 00:34:39,50 --> 00:34:44,55 lots of exceptions associated with it with only one vendor responding and quite 424 00:34:44,56 --> 00:34:45,85 frankly we just don't think this is 425 00:34:45,86 --> 00:34:51,36 a good value for so at this point so what Chief come in if there's nothing else to 426 00:34:51,36 --> 00:34:57,81 . Exceptions there is no. QUESTION We just 427 00:34:58,24 --> 00:34:59,34 go there which vendor. 428 00:35:08,60 --> 00:35:14,63 One thing I would just highlight for it soon we go ahead and reject this big. Fire 429 00:35:14,64 --> 00:35:21,50 department staff is looking at an alternative that would use large S.U.V.s in this 430 00:35:21,51 --> 00:35:26,70 room that we could equip in and get this job done that would be 431 00:35:26,71 --> 00:35:32,21 a significant savings. That also might serve us for. 432 00:35:33,86 --> 00:35:39,78 The time being as we look at what we want to do related to medical transport it 433 00:35:39,79 --> 00:35:43,69 would just preserve that option for you down the line to look at that if you want 434 00:35:43,70 --> 00:35:49,07 to equip more for that service this just keeps that option open for you those 435 00:35:49,17 --> 00:35:55,99 S.U.V.s could be repurposed into vehicles we have some of our battalion chiefs 436 00:35:55,100 --> 00:36:00,40 and other kind of administrative vehicles that we have in the department so there's 437 00:36:00,69 --> 00:36:04,58 some options there to save some money and keep some flexibility depending on 438 00:36:04,62 --> 00:36:10,01 whatever decisions come our way in the next year or two related to that service so 439 00:36:10,02 --> 00:36:13,78 that's. Another option that we're giving some exploration to as an alternative to 440 00:36:13,79 --> 00:36:18,09 this that would be significantly cheaper or more more than one hundred thousand 441 00:36:18,10 --> 00:36:24,28 dollars per year probably savings so chief is good for you just simply really do 442 00:36:24,29 --> 00:36:25,22 this is there 443 00:36:26,11 --> 00:36:32,92 a reason that will get more of that with others. I don't think you know 444 00:36:32,93 --> 00:36:37,27 getting more based on the purpose for that specific be it in the reason why we went 445 00:36:37,28 --> 00:36:42,55 out one of the things we were looking at doing was remounting our current rescue 446 00:36:42,56 --> 00:36:49,32 boxes chassis so in this discourse prohibited and the vendor 447 00:36:49,33 --> 00:36:55,49 said it would some of the warranties just forest the chassis cement so we made an 448 00:36:55,99 --> 00:36:59,19 executive decision to you know take 449 00:36:59,20 --> 00:37:04,47 a few steps back and punt in West Texas and then some see you know what we can do 450 00:37:04,57 --> 00:37:04,91 to make 451 00:37:04,92 --> 00:37:11,70 a better decision term for us is. It really at this cost you'd be better off buying 452 00:37:11,71 --> 00:37:16,96 new and we're not sure you know we need to look at all those considerations but the 453 00:37:17,07 --> 00:37:17,87 largest C.B. 454 00:37:17,88 --> 00:37:20,52 Option is when we are looking at I just want to share that with you because that 455 00:37:20,53 --> 00:37:20,85 would be 456 00:37:20,86 --> 00:37:25,71 a pretty significant shift for one of the things that fire staff has pointed out is 457 00:37:25,72 --> 00:37:31,46 that we equip all three of these the same now and that may not be the smartest 458 00:37:31,47 --> 00:37:32,65 thing to do we might want to look at 459 00:37:32,66 --> 00:37:38,88 a more specialized equipping of these different pieces of equipment based on where 460 00:37:38,89 --> 00:37:42,67 they're located how they're used to pickle So that's that's another consideration 461 00:37:42,68 --> 00:37:46,87 as well if you said examples of those really yes 462 00:37:46,88 --> 00:37:51,50 a matter of trying to pull apart Louisiana runs an S.U.V. 463 00:37:51,78 --> 00:37:56,62 Vehicle for the paramedic quick response there's other models out there across the 464 00:37:56,63 --> 00:38:03,51 country as well. For lead with sort of your cooperation 465 00:38:03,52 --> 00:38:08,64 agreement on housing authority for forty unit. Properties senior housing. 466 00:38:11,44 --> 00:38:16,13 We think Byrne's coming up on this is what we had discussed this two weeks ago this 467 00:38:16,14 --> 00:38:16,63 is really 468 00:38:16,64 --> 00:38:21,61 a payment in lieu of taxes agreement consistent with what we've had in place for 469 00:38:22,36 --> 00:38:27,07 thirty plus years with the housing authority it aligns with the redevelopment 470 00:38:27,08 --> 00:38:32,01 projects they're getting ready to do and I'll let me touch on any other details 471 00:38:32,42 --> 00:38:37,30 that then good evening that's pretty much it will we want to do because there are 472 00:38:37,37 --> 00:38:42,24 different the housing authority does seem to be phasing in the redevelopment of 473 00:38:42,25 --> 00:38:47,21 their properties this is really the very first piece of that it's the forty nine 474 00:38:47,22 --> 00:38:54,05 unit senior housing buildings down will be on the ready. And as we go 475 00:38:54,06 --> 00:39:00,61 forward depending on. How we phase those in we want to update each of 476 00:39:01,14 --> 00:39:04,79 the cooperative cooperation agreements in the fifty's it's. 477 00:39:08,38 --> 00:39:14,23 Cleaned up the study in three to four months of moving dirt. They play. You know 478 00:39:14,24 --> 00:39:19,91 they're here in the site yeah they got the site ready and there is this is needed 479 00:39:19,92 --> 00:39:26,61 to form an alliance and low income housing tax credits there will help 480 00:39:26,62 --> 00:39:33,32 fund that piece. And again here is the one they have been in place nineteen 481 00:39:33,80 --> 00:39:38,01 nineteen sixties before many of you were born since. 482 00:39:45,94 --> 00:39:52,08 The time. Number twelve consideration of removed by county of solid waste 483 00:39:52,09 --> 00:39:57,01 management. We're going to have another couple of vendors that want to speak to 484 00:39:57,02 --> 00:40:01,90 this but if you go ahead and see what are some discussions. I don't spend 485 00:40:01,91 --> 00:40:06,27 a ton of time on this in terms of we presented to staff 486 00:40:06,28 --> 00:40:08,32 a lot of information on it but I do want to update 487 00:40:08,33 --> 00:40:14,01 a few things for you. And touch on some additional information that we may not have 488 00:40:14,02 --> 00:40:19,10 last week or may clarify a little further. First of all we did 489 00:40:19,93 --> 00:40:26,62 a calculation of savings or relative cost of these options as you 490 00:40:26,63 --> 00:40:32,05 remember when we originally calculated it we calculated on basically for three year 491 00:40:32,06 --> 00:40:36,96 terms and what has alternately happened is an initial turn of two and then for 492 00:40:36,97 --> 00:40:41,56 three year terms so we calculated it on that structure it's not 493 00:40:41,57 --> 00:40:45,57 a significant difference but it is a little bit different with 494 00:40:45,58 --> 00:40:52,38 a range of savings in the next five year outlook period. Of five hundred five 495 00:40:52,39 --> 00:40:58,92 hundred fifty two thousand and. About nine hundred thirty eight thousand dollars it 496 00:40:58,93 --> 00:41:00,88 is estimated savings just within 497 00:41:00,89 --> 00:41:05,42 a five year horizon based on that contract structure an average savings of just 498 00:41:05,43 --> 00:41:07,15 over three quarters of a million dollars 499 00:41:07,16 --> 00:41:11,33 a year is what that would come out to since numbers have been updated to reflect 500 00:41:11,72 --> 00:41:17,80 the contract as it as it is there. One of the things we have done also is perform 501 00:41:17,81 --> 00:41:22,45 this ever that we met with the employees and then we met with the entire solid 502 00:41:22,46 --> 00:41:24,96 waste department but if we can 503 00:41:24,97 --> 00:41:29,100 a half ago in one of the questions that we had been asked specifically as well 504 00:41:30,01 --> 00:41:31,28 would by county do 505 00:41:31,72 --> 00:41:37,57 a landfill or tip fee only option what would that look like and so we did ask that 506 00:41:37,58 --> 00:41:42,10 question by county and what they came back with was that would be 507 00:41:42,11 --> 00:41:48,90 a twenty dollars per ton rate for Took the only and I did do 508 00:41:48,91 --> 00:41:53,49 a calculation based on that what our costs are right now for hauling that we 509 00:41:53,50 --> 00:41:55,85 provide going to middle point which is 510 00:41:55,86 --> 00:42:00,03 a round trip of one hundred eight miles our two thousand and thirteen projection is 511 00:42:00,04 --> 00:42:04,83 that cost per ton for transportation provided by the city is eleven dollars and 512 00:42:04,84 --> 00:42:05,62 twenty eight cents 513 00:42:05,66 --> 00:42:12,44 a ton if you. Provide that or look at that. Extrapolate that on one hundred sixty 514 00:42:12,45 --> 00:42:18,66 six mile round trip which is what the Course is from here to the bike County lane 515 00:42:18,67 --> 00:42:22,33 fill that comes out to just over seventeen dollars 516 00:42:22,37 --> 00:42:26,35 a ton in terms of transportation costs based on what we're calculating it costs us 517 00:42:26,54 --> 00:42:30,37 to do it ourselves so that takes you to about thirty seven dollars 518 00:42:30,38 --> 00:42:33,14 a ton compared to the contract which is thirty two dollars 519 00:42:33,15 --> 00:42:37,84 a ton but you know we've been asked to look at that we did look at that and I 520 00:42:37,85 --> 00:42:40,94 wanted to share that that with you there are 521 00:42:40,95 --> 00:42:46,02 a couple terms in the agreement and I apologize this got to late but we've this is 522 00:42:46,03 --> 00:42:51,44 been something we ask by county if they'd be willing to do and we provided you with 523 00:42:51,96 --> 00:42:56,44 an updated agreement and there to change to primary changes that are in the 524 00:42:56,45 --> 00:43:02,77 agreement from what you've got on Friday. The one is reflected on page two 525 00:43:03,52 --> 00:43:04,15 and it's really 526 00:43:04,16 --> 00:43:10,13 a simple question it just talks about special special waste being essentially 527 00:43:10,14 --> 00:43:15,46 little lines that with what the definition is by the state of Tennessee the rules. 528 00:43:17,56 --> 00:43:24,04 Related to what special waste is instead of having the six or seven. 529 00:43:25,41 --> 00:43:29,16 Descriptors that have been there before we just went to a definition that mirrors T. 530 00:43:29,17 --> 00:43:33,93 Tax definition about special waste that essentially simplifies that issue as 531 00:43:33,94 --> 00:43:38,31 opposed to what the definition is now it just says we're going to match as an 532 00:43:38,32 --> 00:43:44,85 operator working with by county what what the state regulations are. 533 00:43:46,07 --> 00:43:51,59 And that similar language is on page five on Section seven it also gets to 534 00:43:51,97 --> 00:43:55,85 hazardous waste and what's disallowed by the state just gets us in alignment with 535 00:43:55,86 --> 00:43:58,91 what state conditions are and the next one is 536 00:43:58,92 --> 00:44:05,82 a pretty pretty important change on page six. It relates to the 537 00:44:05,83 --> 00:44:11,57 terms of the agreement and we have altered that that the extension. To the 538 00:44:11,58 --> 00:44:17,82 agreement that two years and every three years is at the city's option 539 00:44:18,36 --> 00:44:23,91 so is purely the city's decision whether to continue on after two years after 540 00:44:23,92 --> 00:44:28,36 subsequent three years each each renewal period is the city's option to decide 541 00:44:28,37 --> 00:44:32,96 whether to renew and continue the agreement that really does provide us with this 542 00:44:32,97 --> 00:44:33,75 baseline of 543 00:44:33,92 --> 00:44:40,34 a true opportunity at the city's discretion to have fourteen years. Capacity 544 00:44:41,05 --> 00:44:45,24 So those are changes that came out just in the last day as we were going over 545 00:44:45,25 --> 00:44:49,08 language and trying to clean up things apologize that this came to 546 00:44:49,09 --> 00:44:53,16 a little late but they're fairly straightforward and I think fairly important in 547 00:44:53,17 --> 00:44:57,99 that they are beneficial to the city there is one other element that I included in 548 00:44:58,00 --> 00:45:02,69 the memo that I thought was important we had talked about the potential of getting 549 00:45:02,70 --> 00:45:07,03 this service and that is absolutely an option that is open to the board to look at 550 00:45:07,04 --> 00:45:12,02 and to bid this out and to see what what gets delivered through that process as 551 00:45:12,03 --> 00:45:17,50 opposed to this partnership with another local government authority I would only 552 00:45:17,51 --> 00:45:21,09 ask that whatever decision we make we make so that we can have 553 00:45:21,10 --> 00:45:26,77 a bid out on the streets by April one which we can do we can be prepared to do that 554 00:45:26,78 --> 00:45:27,61 but we need 555 00:45:27,62 --> 00:45:31,94 a decision from you all so that we can do that and be ready to release something 556 00:45:31,95 --> 00:45:37,80 neighbor one so that we're ready by July one when our existing contract expires. 557 00:45:39,38 --> 00:45:40,25 To get into 558 00:45:40,26 --> 00:45:45,46 a more beneficial arrangement which is the goal of everybody involved in this so I 559 00:45:45,47 --> 00:45:49,69 would just ask you whatever decision you make that we keep that timeframe in mind 560 00:45:50,41 --> 00:45:54,06 really by the end of the month that we would be out on the street with the bid if 561 00:45:54,07 --> 00:45:59,51 that's what you want to do if you want to proceed with this that's you know we can 562 00:45:59,52 --> 00:46:03,08 move forward with executing that as well but that is one of the options we talked 563 00:46:03,09 --> 00:46:06,53 about and that would just be the only thing I would ask you to do if you go down 564 00:46:06,54 --> 00:46:10,01 that road but let's make that decision fairly quickly so we can get 565 00:46:10,02 --> 00:46:14,58 a bit out and get something done in time to meet our timeframe related to the 566 00:46:14,59 --> 00:46:19,89 expiration of the existing her. And that just kind of covers the clean up items 567 00:46:19,90 --> 00:46:21,43 that I and we made 568 00:46:21,44 --> 00:46:26,27 a pretty detailed case about why this makes sense for the city in terms of locking 569 00:46:26,28 --> 00:46:30,49 in fourteen years of capacity saving us somewhere between fifteen and twenty 570 00:46:30,50 --> 00:46:30,88 percent 571 00:46:30,89 --> 00:46:36,86 a year on what we're spending today to dispose of waste and transport ways to the 572 00:46:36,87 --> 00:46:42,86 point so all of them are. We. 573 00:46:46,47 --> 00:46:53,08 We have. The right is that the way we can certainly try to do that 574 00:46:53,68 --> 00:46:59,47 our experience hasn't produced that kind of long term agreements in the past. But 575 00:46:59,62 --> 00:47:04,63 that is something we can so absolutely try to generate from that process I don't 576 00:47:04,64 --> 00:47:08,36 know that's the uncertainty of the bid process you don't know what will provide the 577 00:47:08,64 --> 00:47:15,54 past hasn't gotten us to that kind of. Violence. You could argue that 578 00:47:15,55 --> 00:47:19,60 you could put guidelines on there that try to mirror what we've developed here in 579 00:47:19,61 --> 00:47:23,75 the inner loop and we would just have to see what comes out of that process there 580 00:47:23,76 --> 00:47:28,20 is uncertainty associated with any bid process as we learned with the fire 581 00:47:28,21 --> 00:47:29,51 equipment we talked just 582 00:47:29,61 --> 00:47:34,34 a couple minutes ago you don't know what the market will deliver the buy County 583 00:47:34,35 --> 00:47:36,89 agreement is a different animal in that it is 584 00:47:36,90 --> 00:47:40,01 a partnership with another local government to deliver 585 00:47:40,02 --> 00:47:45,16 a service that you know we could could have we are able to provide if we if we were 586 00:47:45,17 --> 00:47:49,45 set up to do that that we can provide through another governmental partner where 587 00:47:49,46 --> 00:47:52,91 you can get it just kind of gets in that gray area where you can go either way. 588 00:47:56,68 --> 00:48:03,22 What happens if we did this out I know by county said they would not then they're 589 00:48:03,23 --> 00:48:10,06 not in the process of. Getting so does that offer go away. I 590 00:48:10,07 --> 00:48:14,11 think that would be up to them at that point it would want to continue to provide 591 00:48:14,12 --> 00:48:19,93 that I'd I'd think by. They're saying this is our best offer and you want to hear 592 00:48:19,94 --> 00:48:25,03 you don't hear is the way I understand the terms I don't want to speak for them but 593 00:48:25,04 --> 00:48:28,96 that that's the way I understand it I think we would be making 594 00:48:28,97 --> 00:48:30,80 a choice that we're going to pick what comes out of 595 00:48:30,81 --> 00:48:35,64 a big process or. Take this you know sort of a burden to hand versus what 596 00:48:35,68 --> 00:48:42,56 a big process might. As the vendors to go there may be other questions that are 597 00:48:42,57 --> 00:48:49,49 generated so. When. You're with Jerry Burke and I 598 00:48:49,50 --> 00:48:55,66 am with our public services many of your familiar with. Our landfill legal name is 599 00:48:55,66 --> 00:49:01,86 . I want to speak on behalf of our company and meetings we've had over the last 600 00:49:01,87 --> 00:49:06,79 couple of months with regard to the current contract and expressed to the board and 601 00:49:06,80 --> 00:49:10,65 I know I'm probably worn out with phone calls letters and e-mails are prepared to 602 00:49:10,66 --> 00:49:14,62 indulge me some of those some of you have spoken to and some of you all I wish I 603 00:49:14,63 --> 00:49:19,76 had gotten a chance to but since I am tonight should you know just 604 00:49:19,77 --> 00:49:24,47 a bit process far should you bid we have expressed that we are confident that we 605 00:49:24,48 --> 00:49:29,96 would be able to save you money compared to the contract offer. So we're certain 606 00:49:29,97 --> 00:49:34,72 that the bid process take place we will be able to save you money below the thirty 607 00:49:34,73 --> 00:49:35,19 two dollars 608 00:49:35,20 --> 00:49:39,65 a ton what I would like to propose to the board that I've explained express to Mr 609 00:49:39,66 --> 00:49:45,93 Stookey and. Everyone else in our meetings is that we have two years left on the 610 00:49:45,94 --> 00:49:49,96 current contract and under that current contract we would like to see all extend 611 00:49:49,97 --> 00:49:56,96 with us we will work with you all right to save you money. Below that of what back 612 00:49:56,97 --> 00:49:58,77 alley has offered you and the center 613 00:49:58,78 --> 00:50:02,58 a number of things you know taken care of your taxpayers the citizens but you're 614 00:50:02,59 --> 00:50:07,89 also keeping your current employees employed and it gives you two more years to go 615 00:50:07,90 --> 00:50:13,02 through this process to see what you think you might want to do going forward and I 616 00:50:13,03 --> 00:50:17,14 just would really like to see ya'll table this at least for two more weeks since 617 00:50:17,15 --> 00:50:18,57 that would even give you time to get to 618 00:50:18,58 --> 00:50:23,20 a point to do the bed process at all hours the opportunity to extend under the 619 00:50:23,21 --> 00:50:24,79 current agreement and give you all 620 00:50:24,80 --> 00:50:29,55 a beneficial price that will save you money in the long term over the next two year 621 00:50:29,56 --> 00:50:35,78 period beyond that of what he has to offer. But I don't 622 00:50:36,69 --> 00:50:42,61 I'll be frank to get out of the. And when he asked to put in. 623 00:50:43,79 --> 00:50:44,23 For 624 00:50:44,24 --> 00:50:50,89 a two year term with. Four additional three year terms on the Republic exemption to 625 00:50:50,90 --> 00:50:57,70 that provision we. Did To be honest with especially in the case of 626 00:50:57,71 --> 00:51:02,19 what the city of five one is looking for you don't have to go through this every 627 00:51:02,20 --> 00:51:06,06 two years or every five years you want to be you have comfort knowing where your 628 00:51:06,07 --> 00:51:10,58 waste is going on and we have the ability to where that will not be an issue over 629 00:51:10,59 --> 00:51:14,98 that period of town to be able to take all of us from the city of Franklin to our 630 00:51:14,99 --> 00:51:16,27 little point landfill and 631 00:51:16,28 --> 00:51:21,90 a re not going to refinance flights only get the rate of inflation we would be able 632 00:51:21,91 --> 00:51:22,90 to do a C.P.I. 633 00:51:22,91 --> 00:51:27,05 Increase and I'll work take care only speak right now just because I don't have not 634 00:51:27,06 --> 00:51:31,26 made that contract early enough but what I am offering for the for the first two 635 00:51:31,27 --> 00:51:35,38 years right now under the current claimant is to guarantee the right and not have 636 00:51:35,39 --> 00:51:40,15 an increase going forward for the next two years under the current agreement OK so 637 00:51:41,12 --> 00:51:44,03 that's a yes as to that's 638 00:51:44,04 --> 00:51:49,97 a no as to would probably take exception. I don't know that we went out of have to 639 00:51:49,98 --> 00:51:55,76 have. The tongue is not an issue that time is not an issue with us here. And three 640 00:51:55,77 --> 00:52:02,53 options. That's why it's. The way the current agreement rage and we entered into it 641 00:52:02,54 --> 00:52:06,31 I'm pretty sure we probably would be able to enter into that going forward but 642 00:52:06,32 --> 00:52:10,48 that's something I would have to see the specs and just to get confirmation that 643 00:52:10,49 --> 00:52:11,32 say one reason why 644 00:52:12,30 --> 00:52:17,45 a little hesitant just to say yes without saying in the documents. 645 00:52:20,29 --> 00:52:21,06 Let me take 646 00:52:21,07 --> 00:52:24,96 a little pride if you will short one of the vendor that wanted to speak if I could 647 00:52:24,97 --> 00:52:29,94 bring her. Throughput we would have asked Red Mist we're going to the landfill that 648 00:52:29,95 --> 00:52:34,16 you take this to Murfreesboro Middleby line same one you're just right now and sure 649 00:52:34,17 --> 00:52:38,60 we're right how many are says let's get them right now it's right around twenty but 650 00:52:38,61 --> 00:52:44,22 that changes in fluctuation with an increase in recycling. Right now it's 651 00:52:44,23 --> 00:52:48,28 a twenty so it would not be an issue we're going to years ago are talking the time 652 00:52:48,28 --> 00:52:52,38 . But I don't know if I'm through talk and if I am or if I still have an 653 00:52:52,39 --> 00:52:59,03 opportunity but like I say I really want to stress that for. Tonight's vote to go 654 00:52:59,04 --> 00:53:03,22 with back tally seriously consent of the fact that we can or can see all your 655 00:53:03,23 --> 00:53:07,10 rights to save your money over the next two years guarantee that right walk in for 656 00:53:07,11 --> 00:53:12,33 two years keep your citizens that work for you all employees and also give you the 657 00:53:12,34 --> 00:53:15,65 savings that you're looking for which will help your tax payers which on those 658 00:53:15,66 --> 00:53:21,47 we're told and so forth so you're saying that you could be that. 659 00:53:23,69 --> 00:53:28,32 Over the this what you're doing in there I'm not I'm not saying exactly what I can 660 00:53:28,33 --> 00:53:32,65 come into right now but I can't do that due to the fact that it's public knowledge 661 00:53:32,91 --> 00:53:37,58 I'm merely letting you know that it weakens we can that's why save money compared 662 00:53:37,59 --> 00:53:41,84 to what they're offering you and I can also save you money over the next two year 663 00:53:41,85 --> 00:53:46,48 period to lock in that rate to give you the savings that are beyond what back down 664 00:53:46,49 --> 00:53:50,17 and soften you for the time to almost indifferent to two years of savings were 665 00:53:50,51 --> 00:53:57,15 fourteen years of certainty yes and I. Might. Yes these boards got to feel that 666 00:53:57,89 --> 00:54:04,24 there was some strong consensus to make war. And this is you well know this is 667 00:54:04,25 --> 00:54:08,73 a volatile thing it's not that I don't want to sit here and do this every two years 668 00:54:09,02 --> 00:54:12,74 it's not if I have to do this every two years someone's going to want to tell me 669 00:54:12,75 --> 00:54:17,12 forty five don't understand that I'm here we talk about the fact that I'm 670 00:54:17,13 --> 00:54:20,65 a card vendor and we've got two years left on our agreement what I can do for you 671 00:54:20,66 --> 00:54:25,13 going forward for two years should modern tennis type of like to see 672 00:54:25,14 --> 00:54:30,38 a bit and not go into an agreement with bottling and then it because I'm certain 673 00:54:30,39 --> 00:54:36,15 you know the savings that I can offer but. I just want to be clear we did review 674 00:54:36,16 --> 00:54:40,32 the two year extension under the existing agreement we would have to be very 675 00:54:40,33 --> 00:54:45,37 careful in how that structure because that's very defined relative to the current 676 00:54:45,38 --> 00:54:50,38 rate and that the escalator that's in place. We did 677 00:54:50,39 --> 00:54:55,08 a good process in that bid process had other competitors involved in this is what 678 00:54:55,09 --> 00:54:59,87 came out of it for us to kind of tear it up and do something different the next two 679 00:54:59,88 --> 00:55:06,34 years in terms of rate except is really not consistent with that open competitive 680 00:55:06,35 --> 00:55:10,88 process where everybody put their deal out on the table so if we start changing 681 00:55:10,89 --> 00:55:15,56 that dramatically I'm not sure that's consistent with what that contract provides 682 00:55:15,57 --> 00:55:21,12 for and what our process provides for so what the contract says is we have. 683 00:55:22,37 --> 00:55:27,25 Options to add on to what we have now it's around twenty six dollars and change I 684 00:55:27,26 --> 00:55:27,51 think 685 00:55:27,52 --> 00:55:32,99 a ton just for tipped the only that would be allowed to escalate by the rate of 686 00:55:33,00 --> 00:55:37,02 inflation for the next twelve months and then again by the rate of placing for the 687 00:55:37,03 --> 00:55:42,08 twelve months after that each one your option each time so that's what the 688 00:55:42,09 --> 00:55:48,61 agreement provides for allows for it doesn't really allow us to. Change the deal at 689 00:55:48,62 --> 00:55:49,89 this point because we have 690 00:55:50,00 --> 00:55:56,08 a system contract structure that we have to really work within unless we go back to 691 00:55:56,09 --> 00:56:00,41 bid or we change the terms we're dealing with on a on 692 00:56:00,42 --> 00:56:05,10 a broader basis so that either everybody been done it or we go to different model. 693 00:56:06,58 --> 00:56:10,99 Not be an attorney I have worked within the body of agreements where we have not 694 00:56:11,00 --> 00:56:16,73 changed services but have worked with government entities on price and forgiven 695 00:56:16,84 --> 00:56:22,02 price increases and or rollback so I don't know I'm not speaking as an attorney but 696 00:56:22,03 --> 00:56:26,91 I think that's something I would sure want to look into because I if it can be done 697 00:56:26,91 --> 00:56:33,80 . We were wounded in that squad let me just worlds make his comments. Very 698 00:56:34,36 --> 00:56:38,08 manage him well see Amir vice president voice management so you can check in 699 00:56:38,09 --> 00:56:44,79 Alabama. Family operated the surviving somewhere where it's all of it's always 700 00:56:44,80 --> 00:56:49,93 issues in the US. I will start off with the Government's critics I will get right 701 00:56:49,94 --> 00:56:55,33 to it you offer Bachao to the page all these are good all. Are here to tell you all 702 00:56:55,34 --> 00:56:58,91 that I don't believe is the best offer you can get you know 703 00:56:58,92 --> 00:57:05,06 a good example there is right now in this county we operate we whole 704 00:57:05,83 --> 00:57:09,79 and dispose of which from care and transfer stations are brought in every day to 705 00:57:09,80 --> 00:57:15,07 our west came to landfill is the exact same services Bakoyannis all do for you all 706 00:57:15,34 --> 00:57:20,12 the rate is substantially less than what Bob County has offered you all to do the 707 00:57:20,13 --> 00:57:25,63 same exact services so you know the the the notion that it's not 708 00:57:25,64 --> 00:57:30,12 a competitive market for transferring supposal and you can't get 709 00:57:30,13 --> 00:57:36,58 a good deal of just negotiating it's really not well founded. Republic in Bucks 710 00:57:36,59 --> 00:57:42,21 County or in this mortgage. Again there's a there's a same county your unit has 711 00:57:42,22 --> 00:57:46,74 a better rate than they are right now so it really makes no sense for me I'm still 712 00:57:46,75 --> 00:57:49,45 to do it and I applaud what you do and we often see 713 00:57:49,46 --> 00:57:53,26 a lot of good work with this. But I'm here to tell you that there's 714 00:57:53,27 --> 00:57:59,52 a better deal to be had you do watch things go to bed bit. In addition to bed. In 715 00:57:59,53 --> 00:58:04,48 a waste management for years our whole business model has been to collect in 716 00:58:04,49 --> 00:58:10,11 landfill solid waste. Be the best at it we can be. Pretty well for but but the 717 00:58:10,12 --> 00:58:15,82 world is changing and we're changing what we are developed in sustainability 718 00:58:15,83 --> 00:58:20,38 services and products much quicker than anybody else in our industry and with that 719 00:58:20,43 --> 00:58:26,49 comes up to ninety percent of Frank. In so. That we can bring the table in no one 720 00:58:26,50 --> 00:58:29,20 else in our space can salute the M.C.U. 721 00:58:29,21 --> 00:58:32,66 Or competitively business I've got a personal interest being 722 00:58:32,67 --> 00:58:39,50 a resident here. Want to see the right thing done. I absolutely 723 00:58:39,51 --> 00:58:42,41 know that the business climate can write you or 724 00:58:42,42 --> 00:58:44,45 a very good position right now to get 725 00:58:44,46 --> 00:58:49,20 a great deal. And one of the things that are just speak to the last work session 726 00:58:49,21 --> 00:58:54,36 was you know the pricing flexibility being offered by block carry deal two years 727 00:58:54,37 --> 00:58:55,88 fixed three years C.P.I. 728 00:58:56,42 --> 00:59:02,60 If that's what the students are putting bespeaks we will respond to. Well. But will 729 00:59:02,61 --> 00:59:07,32 you take exception to the term exceptions to the term as laid out right now and 730 00:59:07,33 --> 00:59:07,44 it's 731 00:59:07,45 --> 00:59:13,74 a good two plus four times three fourteen years of guaranteed rate. Of guarantee 732 00:59:13,75 --> 00:59:18,31 rate what side Gerry We absolutely are copies of some we walk long term deals as 733 00:59:18,32 --> 00:59:24,97 well I understand the world is changing though in fourteen years from now I'm 734 00:59:24,98 --> 00:59:27,81 a big shock the first two words and about them as they come for your transfer 735 00:59:27,82 --> 00:59:33,37 station there are things we can bring to city right now that no one else can and 736 00:59:33,94 --> 00:59:37,98 that was so for example supplement your blood bank program to get vastly more 737 00:59:38,06 --> 00:59:42,56 dissipative rates up in the city to reduce your solo Westmeath your transportation 738 00:59:42,57 --> 00:59:48,89 to decrease that calls. There are things like that that you will be fleshed out in 739 00:59:48,90 --> 00:59:54,95 the bid process that the bad maybe can vary. There 740 00:59:55,68 --> 01:00:00,87 it you know cast your right now so your fourteen year contract I can imagine folks 741 01:00:01,06 --> 01:00:04,82 that are going to say no we don't want to own term deal those things we strive to 742 01:00:04,83 --> 01:00:08,72 do as well. But putting business which you want to be looking. 743 01:00:12,02 --> 01:00:16,23 For is for sale in Fulton County to Camden we have 744 01:00:16,24 --> 01:00:20,75 a contract to work for us. But to 745 01:00:20,76 --> 01:00:27,02 a feel for us we can one for us forget old shops which is what you wore. Sort of 746 01:00:27,30 --> 01:00:30,54 but. Now I think it's just under thirty dollars 747 01:00:30,55 --> 01:00:37,46 a time right now murders here but. They still. Lose 748 01:00:37,47 --> 01:00:41,54 that money in the clarifying that I think if you go to bed I would suggest you're 749 01:00:41,55 --> 01:00:46,41 going to be both the way to do it now which is tip feelingly and we provide the 750 01:00:46,42 --> 01:00:52,10 transportation and I would suggest you also bid the all in kind of transportation 751 01:00:52,11 --> 01:00:57,52 in the landfill services so you can look at both options should you build this I 752 01:00:57,53 --> 01:01:02,18 think you need to look at both so that doesn't necessarily mean. We don't we don't 753 01:01:02,19 --> 01:01:05,82 look at changing how we do disposal one that did changes we talked about that would 754 01:01:05,83 --> 01:01:08,39 be associated with this by county agreement still 755 01:01:08,40 --> 01:01:12,62 a very moral might happen that might be the best deal for us out of 756 01:01:12,63 --> 01:01:18,79 a big process as well so I think it's our obligation to look at both options 757 01:01:19,37 --> 01:01:21,42 Regardless either through this in our local or through 758 01:01:21,43 --> 01:01:27,18 a bid process so you'd still be looking at potential changes in that division in 759 01:01:27,22 --> 01:01:32,19 having to basically move some folks around within that division terms of their 760 01:01:32,20 --> 01:01:37,03 responsibilities in as we've identified about four positions that we would need to 761 01:01:37,48 --> 01:01:42,80 reallocate in the organization one more thing one orbit as well as the way of fuel 762 01:01:42,88 --> 01:01:49,78 potential. Which can use thirty five years place where we care goes to Brian Burke 763 01:01:49,79 --> 01:01:53,46 brothers first place there's also something way through we have thirty seven miles 764 01:01:53,47 --> 01:02:00,27 away that we feel become in the next six months. Which rocks with thirty 765 01:02:00,28 --> 01:02:05,83 seven percent of all of us are just thirsty whether that's through the Cedar Ridge 766 01:02:05,83 --> 01:02:12,70 . Sugar's. Says we're true to those so. I think it's pretty obvious by 767 01:02:12,71 --> 01:02:18,82 these two gentlemen sitting here that our businesses desired and only spoke out two 768 01:02:18,83 --> 01:02:20,93 weeks ago that I thought we need to put 769 01:02:20,94 --> 01:02:25,92 a bid process happen here and I'm new at that sped. I don't know much about our 770 01:02:25,93 --> 01:02:30,45 local agreements and it's pretty obvious but these guys sitting back here to watch 771 01:02:30,46 --> 01:02:31,91 their heads nodding agreement as 772 01:02:31,92 --> 01:02:36,73 a beautiful thing and I think there's two sides of the coin I think there's getting 773 01:02:36,74 --> 01:02:40,39 the best deal financially for the city that's and it's also trying to take care of 774 01:02:40,40 --> 01:02:45,23 our own and in fact can be done by any means these guys don't want to drive 775 01:02:45,24 --> 01:02:50,04 a truck I don't think you're saying people switch jobs but we've got 776 01:02:50,05 --> 01:02:54,69 a clip that we purchased for this department that you know can be star plus can be 777 01:02:54,70 --> 01:02:57,71 sold what have you but putting out 778 01:02:57,75 --> 01:03:01,86 a bed that says that so many different ways there's also the idea whoever gets it 779 01:03:01,87 --> 01:03:06,26 might be able to absorb our guys and them doing what they love to do with the same 780 01:03:06,27 --> 01:03:10,25 rate of pay with the same similar benefits that waste management could provide 781 01:03:10,26 --> 01:03:16,10 a republic or whomever. I just Mom bottom line as I think that we're only going to 782 01:03:16,11 --> 01:03:17,19 have the best right if we had 783 01:03:17,20 --> 01:03:25,07 a bet out there and that's that's. We'll 784 01:03:25,08 --> 01:03:31,68 know what they're getting there against you. All you know 785 01:03:32,63 --> 01:03:38,96 the. The. I mean the group the local group we broadcast 786 01:03:39,94 --> 01:03:40,34 the group as 787 01:03:40,35 --> 01:03:47,01 a super took the bill of the now we're also investigating. US 788 01:03:47,09 --> 01:03:47,95 may be doing 789 01:03:47,96 --> 01:03:53,75 a co-op with other cities and counties here in middle Tennessee that have 790 01:03:53,76 --> 01:04:00,43 a future landfill over. And whispered It's time for us to progress toward 791 01:04:00,44 --> 01:04:07,19 that if that seems to be what will work best for the region 792 01:04:08,06 --> 01:04:14,69 you know these three gentlemen they're in the business to make profit. And I still 793 01:04:14,70 --> 01:04:20,09 remember the two years ago that we were caught. However 794 01:04:20,10 --> 01:04:26,96 a barrel because one of these companies decided not to exercise their. Their 795 01:04:26,97 --> 01:04:32,90 option. Of extending the the bill would and then the bid went up about twenty five 796 01:04:32,91 --> 01:04:39,79 percent. You know what I would go 797 01:04:39,80 --> 01:04:44,19 for long term every day so that we were not put in that position. 798 01:04:47,06 --> 01:04:47,99 If I could just address 799 01:04:48,00 --> 01:04:52,60 a because I don't for some reason feel I can spend conveyed to everyone that we 800 01:04:52,61 --> 01:04:56,62 proposed for the two year extension similar to what we're doing now we proposed to 801 01:04:56,63 --> 01:05:02,37 keep signing and it was declined and put out to be that once that happened that was 802 01:05:02,38 --> 01:05:07,52 all about hands and with that big going out we were still the low bidder if the bid 803 01:05:07,53 --> 01:05:11,18 would have come back from ICE management twenty three dollars we want to Bob we 804 01:05:11,55 --> 01:05:14,99 would have been fined you for your business and you would have all of the lower bid 805 01:05:15,50 --> 01:05:20,53 we tried to extend at the current rate we did not want to go to bid because we were 806 01:05:20,59 --> 01:05:25,73 we were pretty uncertain what the pricing would be and we asked to extend for two 807 01:05:25,74 --> 01:05:31,24 more years and it went out to bid anyway and I hate that but I guess it was well 808 01:05:31,28 --> 01:05:37,32 you know we didn't respond last year in everything we did with it was. 809 01:05:38,44 --> 01:05:45,34 Just this time to talk to someone else transfer suppose. It 810 01:05:45,35 --> 01:05:48,38 wasn't there. It's. Just 811 01:05:48,39 --> 01:05:53,43 a different school and so. That will be 812 01:05:53,63 --> 01:05:59,84 a direct. Back of the names will be the nature of the tour on its own we care and. 813 01:06:01,71 --> 01:06:04,24 They've been paying for all it's not like 814 01:06:04,37 --> 01:06:10,36 a small search that writes already been there before so she knows. It's got no it's 815 01:06:10,37 --> 01:06:14,78 got thirty five years versus. More yes. 816 01:06:17,16 --> 01:06:23,40 OK we'll move on number thirteen. Now would function like to your 817 01:06:24,18 --> 01:06:28,42 knowledge general planning permission or if you scratch plan and states of the I 818 01:06:28,43 --> 01:06:32,17 want. To page boiling units on twelve point seven. 819 01:06:35,38 --> 01:06:41,07 For both history. It was just doing their thing it was kind of 820 01:06:41,08 --> 01:06:47,74 a phone number so. This question 821 01:06:47,75 --> 01:06:53,49 regarding the projects we're glad you're going to be able to call and David coming 822 01:06:53,50 --> 01:06:58,21 out of this is really if our wanted to see if the discussion ongoing discussions 823 01:06:58,22 --> 01:07:03,38 we've been having for some time now and there were three specific projects and if 824 01:07:03,39 --> 01:07:09,30 you just highlight and share some additional information on this and any other 825 01:07:09,31 --> 01:07:13,46 guidance you want to provide just the sense I had of two meetings ago was that 826 01:07:14,33 --> 01:07:14,62 there was 827 01:07:14,63 --> 01:07:21,54 a pretty good consensus around. The staff recommendation for the most part with 828 01:07:21,82 --> 01:07:27,43 the exception of weighing in specifically on the south Caruthers phase in and how 829 01:07:27,44 --> 01:07:31,83 you might want to approach that in part because when we originally put that plan 830 01:07:31,84 --> 01:07:37,61 together. That South and North had not been fully developed as an option and we 831 01:07:37,62 --> 01:07:41,46 have more information on that than we originally did and wanted to make sure there 832 01:07:41,47 --> 01:07:45,34 was a clear understanding of those two options and if that's 833 01:07:45,35 --> 01:07:50,13 a project you want. If you include that we went in and the wood and the approach 834 01:07:50,14 --> 01:07:54,22 you wanted to in terms of the phasing option and then took you in over calling them 835 01:07:54,23 --> 01:07:57,50 a human can connect to Earth which is a somewhere between two and 836 01:07:57,51 --> 01:08:02,25 a half and three million dollars project that will be activated at traffic circles 837 01:08:02,79 --> 01:08:07,13 at McEwen in Cool Springs and help we think alleviate 838 01:08:07,14 --> 01:08:11,71 a potential bottleneck that we see with the way it's set up now and help connect 839 01:08:11,72 --> 01:08:17,29 into the existing McKeown road and make that work function better again 840 01:08:17,30 --> 01:08:21,76 a project that wasn't really on the radar screen when that staff recommendation was 841 01:08:21,77 --> 01:08:26,30 formulated and then finally the kind of when we're in N.C.A.A. 842 01:08:26,31 --> 01:08:29,76 Tournament time this was the first project out I guess I would call it when you 843 01:08:29,77 --> 01:08:36,14 look at that analogy. Carlisle lane project was one that was it was just outside of 844 01:08:36,85 --> 01:08:41,80 that priority group that we had and no there had been some interest in that one too 845 01:08:41,81 --> 01:08:46,00 so we just these were the three that were we kind of regarded as somewhat least 846 01:08:46,27 --> 01:08:49,40 that we wanted to see if there's other information we can share and get any other 847 01:08:49,41 --> 01:08:54,92 feedback and Rocky through the three specific projects and then to help with any 848 01:08:54,93 --> 01:08:59,30 discussion. Anything I'll just walk through the three projects to get 849 01:08:59,31 --> 01:09:06,28 to. Our late stage project the main purpose is obviously to 850 01:09:06,29 --> 01:09:13,27 see section. Adding biplanes on the lab new car lot of lame will 851 01:09:13,28 --> 01:09:15,91 be having left turn lanes on Highway ninety six and there's 852 01:09:15,92 --> 01:09:20,05 a multi-use trail on the north side of Highway ninety six that will actually 853 01:09:20,09 --> 01:09:25,53 connect to the Makassar project the estimated cost of that project is around two 854 01:09:25,54 --> 01:09:29,91 point two million dollars We're in the process of finalizing the right away Dr 855 01:09:30,14 --> 01:09:34,61 right away that was initially as of now it's one of the next projects and 856 01:09:34,62 --> 01:09:40,34 a huge drop tempered connector. To Meeting this project to be about two point four 857 01:09:40,40 --> 01:09:44,58 billion dollars I will say that we're looking at making some slight changes to this 858 01:09:44,59 --> 01:09:50,11 to extend its. The actual connection point which was bumped up to around two point 859 01:09:50,12 --> 01:09:55,13 eight two point zero and. In the primary purpose of this is do allow the run on the 860 01:09:55,14 --> 01:09:59,64 ballot to function as originally designed and in addition it would allow us to 861 01:09:59,65 --> 01:10:05,28 delay the McEwen phase for the project as far as doing the entire improvements that 862 01:10:05,29 --> 01:10:10,99 this made around twenty million dollars. Go to the next page is an exhibit of what 863 01:10:11,00 --> 01:10:15,11 steps are generally looks like how that will function as I mentioned before looking 864 01:10:15,12 --> 01:10:20,53 at shifting that connection point farther reason to allow us to. Allow these 865 01:10:20,54 --> 01:10:21,10 purpose to be 866 01:10:21,30 --> 01:10:27,35 a long term temporary. Wanted in the south for this project through the some 867 01:10:27,36 --> 01:10:32,19 questions still as to what to include and what's not included it's basically 868 01:10:32,20 --> 01:10:37,17 brewing up into two phases essentially thrown Falcon the creek to connect to route 869 01:10:38,03 --> 01:10:42,19 is it would be one phase of South for others in the two lanes we're looking to do 870 01:10:42,20 --> 01:10:47,89 in the grading for four lanes of storm drainage. That's estimated at around seven 871 01:10:47,90 --> 01:10:52,89 point six million dollars just going on to the next phase south for others is 872 01:10:53,59 --> 01:10:57,80 essentially from connector road down to true lane and then out of the three lead 873 01:10:57,81 --> 01:11:01,14 car can connect out the long lane this section includes 874 01:11:01,15 --> 01:11:05,06 a bridge once again and we would be doing the grading for all four of the future 875 01:11:05,07 --> 01:11:11,88 lanes it's estimated at about nine million dollars. One question that was 876 01:11:11,89 --> 01:11:16,65 asked at the previous meeting was the development potential We've worked with to 877 01:11:16,66 --> 01:11:21,09 try to highlight we're up to date as far as development around the south for this 878 01:11:21,10 --> 01:11:24,89 project and next map highlights the nickel bands of L. 879 01:11:24,94 --> 01:11:30,50 And civil for is developed the last part in the areas farms and if you noticed the 880 01:11:31,08 --> 01:11:35,36 in the northern section of that south Caruthers there's around 881 01:11:35,37 --> 01:11:40,02 a thousand homes that potentially could develop at this point none have actually 882 01:11:40,03 --> 01:11:45,23 moved forward with the building and if you look at the lad. There's no one in it 883 01:11:45,41 --> 01:11:50,65 that would go with. Start from essentially connect to Truman lane there's around 884 01:11:50,66 --> 01:11:55,21 a thousand homes that have been approved and your to have one hundred forty seven 885 01:11:55,22 --> 01:11:56,52 minutes R.T. 886 01:11:56,73 --> 01:12:02,24 Argued Bill. In addition we had to bury forms just to highlight that as far as 887 01:12:02,56 --> 01:12:08,35 allowing that north to self connection. To ground telephones that potentially have 888 01:12:08,36 --> 01:12:13,47 been approved to deal with this point we're just hoping the discussion pushed. 889 01:12:16,72 --> 01:12:22,38 All the big fish in the first thing is seeing these ideas here have they been run 890 01:12:22,39 --> 01:12:29,30 through new power. To see what we're talking about 891 01:12:29,31 --> 01:12:34,38 internally to. Put Come let's just service we're going to have because from 892 01:12:34,39 --> 01:12:41,34 Kipling's keep in mind and our debt service. Even on just the committed 893 01:12:41,35 --> 01:12:48,08 projects which as around. Here is you know explorer rather which we still have ten 894 01:12:48,09 --> 01:12:52,43 million dollars to borrow plus what I consider to be 895 01:12:52,88 --> 01:12:59,81 a profit I would use project from your Which was the cap for the service service 896 01:13:00,21 --> 01:13:04,29 for solid footing thanks to a bank on Saturday late I don't have to call it was 897 01:13:04,30 --> 01:13:09,60 a play book report as I read it I did say that with my background but that didn't 898 01:13:09,61 --> 01:13:14,11 matter because I didn't have back together but that turns out to believe what about 899 01:13:14,59 --> 01:13:21,25 five. This year and next year about five million dollars And in just 900 01:13:21,29 --> 01:13:26,94 just ruined Hillsboro which we committed to what at least four years ago and. 901 01:13:28,59 --> 01:13:31,19 What is it cost tell me again with the name of 902 01:13:31,20 --> 01:13:37,01 a consolidated purple worms out of any public works those things right there could 903 01:13:38,00 --> 01:13:44,35 well but off why were. I were gathered and 904 01:13:45,05 --> 01:13:50,43 what we said would. We would Talfourd the amount the amount of money that percent 905 01:13:51,07 --> 01:13:55,90 what is the percent of our budget that goes to pay for it. 906 01:13:57,96 --> 01:14:04,44 For. That service that and so I'm very concerned about that Nessa say I don't 907 01:14:04,45 --> 01:14:09,39 see those things run through that but even even that that even at the things that 908 01:14:09,40 --> 01:14:12,99 we've already committed to because I'm already bottom or else we said Hillsboro 909 01:14:13,30 --> 01:14:17,13 thirty years ago we're still going to be you know well above that 910 01:14:17,14 --> 01:14:24,06 a person that. We have said is our debt I mean it's at least ten percent every 911 01:14:24,07 --> 01:14:30,97 year. At least ten percent. We have rescued talking about we've been 912 01:14:30,98 --> 01:14:35,68 working with Peter Fenn on that were somewhat looking for your direction where we 913 01:14:35,69 --> 01:14:42,23 had done and the staff recommendation included the Caruthers extension the seven 914 01:14:42,24 --> 01:14:47,43 point six million dollars project and we did in that scenario but we had not 915 01:14:47,44 --> 01:14:52,11 included in the Q. And connector which is not a huge number but it's about two and 916 01:14:52,12 --> 01:14:56,97 a half million dollars and Carlisle Like I said was kind of the one that was just 917 01:14:57,54 --> 01:15:02,67 just outside of that funding group. So that that's what we had but Russ I've been 918 01:15:02,68 --> 01:15:06,06 working on some other scenarios with that so we've seen 919 01:15:06,07 --> 01:15:12,24 a few We've given them some information that you have. That included the 920 01:15:12,44 --> 01:15:18,12 differential in the in the face in the south commanders going from the seven 921 01:15:18,13 --> 01:15:22,92 million dollar lead to the nine million dollars they had in the McEwen connector 922 01:15:23,53 --> 01:15:28,88 and if you remember the charts I mean as you say that we were alone from debt 923 01:15:28,89 --> 01:15:34,59 service we were not I mean I'm sorry if we had eight percent and we that's twenty 924 01:15:34,60 --> 01:15:40,76 five percent over what our that's self for us more than what our guideline was and 925 01:15:40,77 --> 01:15:45,45 that was supposed to be the max and that wasn't just what we wanted to pay that was 926 01:15:45,46 --> 01:15:50,92 supposed to be. Our at the top of the head it is part of that context so it's one 927 01:15:50,93 --> 01:15:54,76 of multiple benchmarks that you have in that policy and that's that's with that has 928 01:15:54,77 --> 01:16:00,49 been the problematic benchmark ever since we've had the policy that's just one of 929 01:16:00,50 --> 01:16:03,79 those things and that's in part impacted by the fact that we've reduced our budget 930 01:16:03,83 --> 01:16:09,66 as much as we have in the last three years but it is one we will always look at it 931 01:16:09,67 --> 01:16:10,32 is one that in 932 01:16:10,33 --> 01:16:15,74 a growing community is going to be particularly challenging but one that's why we 933 01:16:15,75 --> 01:16:19,55 look at all the different measures because they all together picked give you 934 01:16:19,56 --> 01:16:22,46 a full picture so that it could end up being more than 935 01:16:22,47 --> 01:16:28,03 a country mile and I were not touchy feely and that's one of the to it's not for 936 01:16:28,04 --> 01:16:31,92 them or not touchy feely they are stats that the bond rating agencies look at when 937 01:16:31,93 --> 01:16:36,82 they rate our debt and so they're all important and that they are there we look at 938 01:16:36,83 --> 01:16:40,60 them all and that is always been the one that has been the most challenging as you 939 01:16:40,61 --> 01:16:43,90 pointed out if we don't do any projects that's still going to be one that will let 940 01:16:43,91 --> 01:16:44,22 it play 941 01:16:44,32 --> 01:16:48,61 a little research at the challenge areas say that it's not pressuring not doing 942 01:16:48,62 --> 01:16:53,58 your projects it's not doing any that we haven't already committed to and we 943 01:16:53,59 --> 01:16:54,34 committed to 944 01:16:54,35 --> 01:17:00,01 a brand new wood in the past twelve months so we have committed to something new in 945 01:17:00,02 --> 01:17:05,45 the past twelve months but it's also those things that we committed to what four 946 01:17:05,46 --> 01:17:09,17 years ago that we still haven't done yet and I'm 947 01:17:09,18 --> 01:17:13,11 a recent pointless war rather than that was one that wasn't that our second 948 01:17:13,40 --> 01:17:18,22 commitment on your staff one was not catch twenty two in the playoffs and out I 949 01:17:18,23 --> 01:17:24,54 mean Air Force was my attention the last our second was. And we still have got at 950 01:17:24,55 --> 01:17:28,92 least ten million dollars more that we've got to borrow to do that and we need to 951 01:17:28,93 --> 01:17:33,52 then that's my still my catcher it would be number one but you know it's probably 952 01:17:33,53 --> 01:17:39,85 a big number to. And and we've still got to cross that money. As members include in 953 01:17:39,86 --> 01:17:45,35 the model that the film has presented to us to know that we have 954 01:17:45,36 --> 01:17:50,55 a saying here. To keep singing the same Old Sarum But in addition to lower the 955 01:17:50,56 --> 01:17:55,44 branches the other thing that I would ask you to remember is we also play and we 956 01:17:55,45 --> 01:18:00,12 started those projects to borrow the money somewhat evenly over the life of those 957 01:18:00,13 --> 01:18:04,56 projects but because of the stimulus and because of the recoveries own 958 01:18:04,77 --> 01:18:10,44 opportunities to borrow from him we didn't tie our seventy billion dollars in the 959 01:18:10,45 --> 01:18:16,39 first year instead of splicing it out as we would normally do that but Scuse me for 960 01:18:16,40 --> 01:18:17,88 can't continue like this but 961 01:18:17,89 --> 01:18:22,64 a lot of that seventy million was to actually take part of what that was to 962 01:18:22,76 --> 01:18:28,67 actually put. Things that we had already done that forty four million of that was 963 01:18:28,68 --> 01:18:30,96 what we were really paying our sales back 964 01:18:31,26 --> 01:18:34,98 a big part of that was for paying ourselves back to things that we had always been 965 01:18:34,98 --> 01:18:40,92 . But it really is not just we buy the seventy million because it was 966 01:18:40,93 --> 01:18:45,29 a variable is it with a special bond with your agreement that it moved 967 01:18:45,30 --> 01:18:47,25 a lot you've moved the debt service since 968 01:18:47,26 --> 01:18:52,01 a percentage of budget yes harder than you normally would and that really scares 969 01:18:52,02 --> 01:18:57,40 that one particular. Financial guy for how much of that do we have left that we 970 01:18:57,41 --> 01:19:03,40 have it. Couldn't give you know answer exactly because I know it's going to Baghdad 971 01:19:03,41 --> 01:19:08,65 and. I mean we we have enough to cover the projects that are still working like 972 01:19:08,66 --> 01:19:11,39 McKeown And we feel like there's going to be 973 01:19:11,40 --> 01:19:17,32 a little leftover from there but we will still need as you mentioned the family 974 01:19:17,33 --> 01:19:18,03 will still need 975 01:19:18,04 --> 01:19:23,12 a little bit more to finish his part roughly half of it I'm sorry kid to me that's 976 01:19:23,13 --> 01:19:23,41 more than 977 01:19:23,42 --> 01:19:29,04 a little bit to me but my point he has now is that we have like Front borrowed for 978 01:19:29,05 --> 01:19:35,30 the projects except maybe seven for heels Barbara the rest of it we've 979 01:19:35,68 --> 01:19:41,31 basically space. Our state our Spinrad processor on in the process some projects 980 01:19:41,32 --> 01:19:48,26 that progress as I say you know. Not my. Because. If 981 01:19:48,27 --> 01:19:54,60 you see the tide even when they see these they have they are debt 982 01:19:54,61 --> 01:19:58,88 service is. Kind of where ours it's. 983 01:20:02,27 --> 01:20:08,71 The cities of our sense. For the common not I want to make sure I 984 01:20:08,72 --> 01:20:11,21 understood this life back. 985 01:20:15,79 --> 01:20:22,74 Trying to most of the developing right now is the South. Looks more just 986 01:20:22,75 --> 01:20:29,41 to go south but the work based on the number of residential units in our actively 987 01:20:29,42 --> 01:20:36,30 presently does to what Eric. Does that is the project is that you say is there is 988 01:20:36,31 --> 01:20:43,26 a force of will. Saying that over to the projects because. 989 01:20:45,14 --> 01:20:51,41 Really for the sooner we don't. Push further. From. 990 01:20:52,54 --> 01:20:53,40 My church. 991 01:21:01,17 --> 01:21:02,41 If I may I want to just give you 992 01:21:02,42 --> 01:21:06,92 a quick update on the north side Chris I'm sorry Chris pastoral approach St 993 01:21:06,93 --> 01:21:10,79 partners where the developer of nickels been. Just as 994 01:21:10,80 --> 01:21:16,01 a quick update on the north side where you're discussing phasing options we are 995 01:21:16,02 --> 01:21:19,97 actually in preparation to move forward construction of our first section of ninety 996 01:21:19,98 --> 01:21:26,39 four lots we have those thoughts on the contract with local builders and after 997 01:21:26,98 --> 01:21:32,05 a long awaited preparation we are in intently hoping on breaking ground this summer 998 01:21:32,05 --> 01:21:36,71 . It would be on the eastern side of the property along the existing Caruthers 999 01:21:37,72 --> 01:21:44,72 because this Parkway is not in place yet and we would fast as there's demand 1000 01:21:44,73 --> 01:21:51,72 and supply will are was pushed. Push west toward Caruthers Parkway but. Part 1001 01:21:51,73 --> 01:21:55,89 of the reason we've been able to secure contracts with builders and have gained 1002 01:21:55,90 --> 01:22:00,16 interest from lenders is that demand is picking up significantly and Franklin I 1003 01:22:00,17 --> 01:22:03,90 think you probably have all heard that thankfully we're seeing 1004 01:22:03,91 --> 01:22:08,51 a good resurgence in demand from from single family home buyers as well as renters 1005 01:22:08,52 --> 01:22:11,67 in the market and that we are seeing 1006 01:22:11,68 --> 01:22:18,46 a dearth of supply and. In terms of high quality. That you can you can 1007 01:22:18,71 --> 01:22:24,54 look at statistics that will show. That there are put improved residential lots in 1008 01:22:24,55 --> 01:22:30,44 Williamson County but when you break that down into areas that are marketable more 1009 01:22:30,68 --> 01:22:36,84 ready for buyers those areas are dwindling and we're seeing that in communities 1010 01:22:36,85 --> 01:22:40,66 that we already have developed such as park place with significantly improved 1011 01:22:40,67 --> 01:22:45,19 improving velocity so I wanted to make sure because I thought that statistic on 1012 01:22:45,20 --> 01:22:49,00 that chart was you know things are moving fairly quickly I think that maybe 1013 01:22:49,01 --> 01:22:55,23 a month or so will and. I wanted to make sure that the board knew that that Nichols 1014 01:22:55,24 --> 01:22:59,91 bend is moving forward and I don't know that Simmons really just been under. Under 1015 01:22:59,92 --> 01:23:02,31 contract at least once there's 1016 01:23:02,32 --> 01:23:05,62 a lot of interest in that ship it still is but there is 1017 01:23:05,81 --> 01:23:10,02 a lot of interest in that project from builders and developers as well. 1018 01:23:13,41 --> 01:23:19,84 Mark. In the store to get. To know what 1019 01:23:20,65 --> 01:23:27,54 we should be. So it's no way are we going. To be 1020 01:23:28,36 --> 01:23:33,47 you would be. Making sure that every. 1021 01:23:39,65 --> 01:23:45,67 Name still. So you would have 1022 01:23:45,68 --> 01:23:49,60 a connection there with the cross. But we also I think. 1023 01:23:53,42 --> 01:23:58,28 As well for the for the road in the strange areas in that project as well.