exfiltration is an extraordinary operation. it often involves a number of people coming from headquarters. it involves great tension. it involves danger and risk. they are not always successful. but in many, many, many cases we were successful in bringing out our citizens. we will get them excellent traded whether it is the end of their lives or their careers. was one of the people in the agency involved in many, many, many of those exfiltration's. his specialty had been authentication documentation and disguise and of course, his wife was the chief of the disguise unit in the cia. so, we are hearing tonight from -- it is something that they did for the agency. this film ising is -- with the usual liberties, rather close to what happened and i think nothing makes it more proximate for us than to watch the protests outside the american embassies today. we see this is a movie not just about the past, but our own times. tony was in the agency for 25 years. he worked in many areas of the world. often areas that were hostile. forhe

who failed to exfiltrate cabela from cuba? who was exfiltrate it from cuba on 16 june? finally, who was the father to carlos tepedino? the cia often uses deception in the secret cables and memoranda to backstop the fragmentation of one individual into multiple identities. takeill see such deception place in the cables i'm about to show you. they described the new effort to with the help of his best friend. this was done to hide the true identity of carlos' father. from now -- now let's get to the part laying the base for this part of the puzzle. partoing to break up this of the presentation into four sections. the new jm wade defection plan, a surprise postcard from cabela to tepedino, key events to tepedino's dad, and finally, /sloman the swarza puzzle. we start with the renewed effort in 19 6222 defect and recruit abella -- abella c --abela -- cabela. this is the station's response to cia headquarters. this cable references headquarters cable, asking jm wade to develop a possible defection op. it shows us how poncho wanted to play a major role and how he tried to use

the matter of exfiltration is an extraordinary operation. it often involves a number of people coming from headquarters. it involves great tension. it involves danger and risk. they are not always all successful. but in many, many, many cases we were successful in bringing out our sources who needed to be exfiltrate did, or that was the end of their lives or their careers. tony mendez, who's the subject of the film, "argo," was one of the people in the agency involved in many, many of those exfiltration's. his original specialty had been authentication documentation, and then the area of disguise. and, of course, his wife, john, was later chief of the disguise unit in cia. and so we're hearing tonight from someone upon him some has chosen to base the film. but for them it was real life. it is what they did. for the country, for the agency, and for the sources that we felt it was so important to protect. my understanding is that this film is with the usual liberties, rather close to what happened. and i think nothing makes a more proximate fo

to took place just now allow the exfiltration. desperate for cash and only looking for a quick it, you're not going to take that time. the first difference between these guys and almost everybody else is they were willing to and be patient. second, they had this -- this -- division of labor where skilled in ple were the initial hack. skilled e were people at exfiltration. hen finally skilled at montization. most groups, most gangs, don't kind of really specific division of labor. the other thing that really should be pointed out is that the case that we announced in really a continuation case. albert gonzalez the albert gonzalez case is a number of reasons and andy actually worked on it. high school, i think -- no. but -- but it was -- it was an mazing case that resulted in the longest sentence in cyberhistory, albert gonzalez is 20 years right now. for one- he was amazing albert gonzalez was caught initially. he flipped. cooperating at a high level. at the same time he was cooperating at a high level on hacking at , he was extrem

the exfiltration took place, multiple people involved told us. a person involved in the discussion said that the president's mishandling of intelligence contributed. and by the way, the final decision to do this took place immediately after that famous oval office meeting, in which the president shared and discussed other sensitive intelligence with russian officials. you'll remember, in may 2017. so the timing also indicative. and then we played the cia's disputes, laid it out there for the world to sea, but then tested its dispute against other information that we had. >> and how do you handle a situation where in this case, the white house press secretary, says that you could be endangering people's lives by reporting this story? >> it's something that factored into our editorial discussions leading up to the story. and again, this was weeks in the works. so our approach was twofold. one, this exfiltration had taken place more than two years ago. the spy was not in a plane, in the air, on the way to some undisclosed location, as we were report

>> tell me, could you outline exfiltration? >> sure. we know that nation states today are engaged in getting on to your network, lurking. they'll be there for a very long time. you don't know it. your system administrators don't know it. these folks can't catch it. sometimes the government -- a lot of the times the government can't catch it either. and then they'll latch on to that intellectual property that is on everybody's computer today. all those designs, everything that is of value to that company. and at the right time, at the right speed, they latch on to it and run like heck through your neck work and take it bactck ww. and we know a country like china, who is investing in this as a national strategy to exfiltrate intellectual property and directly use that intellectual property to directly compete against united states businesses. and unfortunately, it is happening at a breathtaking pace, breathtaking pace. and what is concerning these folks are looking for malicious software that is disruptive or theft-oriented. this is very

we try to stop, not only infiltration, but exfiltration, where sewage would actually leak out of the pipe. the head is larger, so it breaks away the old pipe and allows the new pipe to come in behind it. griffin: we are saving about 67% of the cost of actually digging old pipe up. clyne: it's less invasive than an open-cut process, where you would open the whole trench up and replace the pipe. it's called "trenchless" technology, so... that's as good as it gets. griffin: we don't have to dig up everyone's yard, and we refurbish that pipe at a much-reduced cost. another technique, the cured-in-place lining. it's equivalent to putting a large sock through the existing sewer. we form a new pipe inside the old pipe, and therefore we seal up all of the defects that allow rainwater to come in. hunter: we repair

in general the profile of people who know how to organize exfiltration is like this one are often former civil servants or servants of the state who know how to do its filtration zz. go on was flown from japan to turkey since he landed there police have arrested 7 suspected collaborators 4 of them pilots and other private jets transported him from his turnbull to beirut it all reads like a secret agent thriller all the more reason why reporters want to see go and reappear. for more i'm joined by basil already head of r d w studio in beirut doesn't walk us through what happens next if we go to some into the public prosecutor's office what will happen when we go on trial in lebanon. what we know and to dismiss. it but he's also what it is will not listen to talk you know what we know from some kind of sources in lebanon guarding the public or state prosecutor. going into the gate the next week and according to our sources this won't happen on a b fold 'd the press the release of this confidence by a source on on the 8th on this now we don't have specific time with this press conference mig

server in general the profile of people who know how to organize exfiltration is like this one are often former civil servants or servants of the state who know how to do its filtration. go on was flown from japan to turkey since he landed there police have arrested 7 suspected collaborators 4 of them pilots and other private jets transported him from istanbul to beirut it all reads like a secret agent thriller all the more reason why reporters want to see go and reappear. from what i'm joined by a vessel at etihad stadium beverly 20 obviously keeps an eye on that story now as nissen see o'collins ken has visited lebanon's enemy and that's israel the washington post writes that he could actually face toughen charges in lebanon then in japan anything to that yes indeed. the judge your thirty's and lebanon to take action against him so he doesn't since he visited israel and signed many agreements and according to you but he's got a situation he's low the. is the only enemy of lebanon any kind of contact with israel it's forbidden by you know so according to these lawyers the lawyers they a

exfiltrated just like in the americans tv show. most importantly this russian source was instrumental in confirming key details about the kremlin's election interference in our election. number one, he gave us the information that vladimir putin himself ordered and orchestrated the whole thing. number two, this source told us that putin affirmatively favored donald trump's election. so he was not just intervening, he was helping trump. number three, that putin personally ordered the hacking of the dnc. all this reporting we got from this one source, a russian turncoat basically. "the seattle times" reports that according to people familiar this cia informant was outside of mr. putin's inner circle but saw putin regularly and access to high level kremlin decision making. so this person was meeting in the same room with putin telling us what putin's up to, what a source they had at the cia. cnn reports we could even provide images of documents on the russian leader's desk. he could take pictures of what it looked like. this was how c

the exfiltration of data from secure sites. one thing is also interesting, how much data was exfiltrated. there were some estimates it's up to or over 1.7 million documents. that is not a small number. given the fact they were likely in the form of text-only documents, very limited pictures, jpegs, etc., probably almost no video, you could do that on sd sticks, and certainly this is how he passed it to and from the journalists he was speaking to when he flew to hong kong from hawaii. and this was a big story for both guardian and the washington post and, ultimately, "der spiegel" and a various variety of other newspapers, all of whom allegedly now hold this data. he himself, when he ended up in russia and the united states seized his passport, i think before he boarded the flight, didn't have in possession those documents. that's what he claims. of course, the counterclaim is the fsb and the russian government would be very interested in what he had in his possession or what he had up here. similarly, there were the chinese. th

that we successfully exfiltrate our agents. and i know that vladimir putin and the fsb right now are very upset about that. and that's another success for the intelligence community. the third thought, though, and i think it's an important part of this, where we can look at the success of getting him out successfully from a practical perspective, is that now his information can be more fully exploited. in other words, presumably there were tremendous sensitivities in sharing his information. that's always the problem when you have a uniquely placed asset. is if you share the information, you're going to risk leaks and compromises, which certainly looks like it was a huge factor in deciding to exfiltrate him now. so in this particular case, now that he's out, perhaps he can answer some very big questions for us. for example, what was vladimir putin's intentions in 2016? what are his intentions in 2020, vis-a-vis the u.s. election? did members of the trump administration collude or conspire with russian intelligence? presumably,

>> i am not the expert and exfiltration into very couple can you process. but it is something that we have to do, we cannot leave him behind, i totally agree and it may well be that you have to have some arrangements with the taliban which were included in the agreement that was made by the last administration that the taliban would help us to deal with certain issues that we are going to face particularly dealing with isis k. lauren: let me ask you this you do have expertise in this area. we are approaching the 20th anniversary of 9/11. considering the position of the united states right now in the situation on the ground in afghanistan where we do not have troops and cameras. do you think the homeland is safe. >> to i think the homeland is safe, i think we are going to have to leave that to the military but were going.to be very vigilant about the fact that a lot of fighters have moved into afghanistan in the last several months already. we don't know whether the taliban will be able to control isis k if it wants to which it said it does, obviously we wil

the exfiltration from baghdad was a great moment after the cold war. i was the ambassador from 1990 to april of 1993. so when the exfiltration took place i remember walking into the station chief's house full of these people and white shirts and khaki pants and i remember yelling who are these people. so it was a happy moment. it was also the process john describes of coming together and within the larger framework poland at that point had more security covered at all after the warsaw pact. poland was with 30,000 soviet troops and was there for their departure. but they had every interest in a good relationship with the united states and the intelligence part of it and the aftermath of the exfiltration from the head of the cia george webster and bill sessions. i remember they gave the welcoming dinner to george websterhi which was near my residence and notorious. the next night my wife and i gave the dinner. i said it is a treat and he said if that was a treat for you, imagine what kind of a trait it is for me because i know every note and cranny of th

and look to see once the change, what took place just now that allowed the exfiltration? so they waited. if you are desperate for cash and only looking for a quick hit, you're not going to take that time. the first difference between these guys and almost anybody else was that they're willing to wait, they're willing to be patient. second, they had this division of labor where they had specific people who were skilled at the initial hack. then there were people who were skilled at exfiltration and finally there are people who are skilled at monetization. most groups, most gangs don't have that kind of really specific division of labor. the other thing that should be pointed out is that the case we announced in july was really a continuation of the albert gonzalez case. albert gonzalez case was an amazing case for a number of reasons and andy worked on it. i was still in high school, i think. [laughter] it was amazing for one reason -- it was an amazing case that resulted in the longest sentence in cyber history. albert gonzalez is serving 20 years right now. it was amazin

they exfiltrated him from russia. they brought him to the united states. they have him under protection here. they need the world to know that they take the protection of their sources very seriously. >> but mieke, when we say it's happened before, it happened during the soviet regime, but those books didn't come out until the soviet regime was over. this is someone who's in danger right now. and i don't think it -- i don't think it sounds very protected that this person is in so much danger of mortal danger that a reporter like ken dilanian can simply walk up to the door and knock on the door. that doesn't sound especially safe. >> i don't want to underplay ken's reporting skills on this, but i do think that there is some question about how people feel at the cia about russia's willingness to engage in activities and attacks on american soil. that has really been a red line in the u.s./russia relationship in the sort of spy versus spy world. once people get here and once they're under cia protection, people typically have not -- have not found themselves

does it leave a void if somebody like that, you know, is exfiltrated? >> yeah, of course it would leave a void, anderson. but i prefer to focus on three important successes of this reported exfiltration. and like steve, i can't confirm it because i simply don't know, which is also good news. if someone like i were aware of this operation, that would be a bad thing. but first the fact that we had a source like this, i sometimes question whether we'd continue to be as successful against russia in the counterterrorism age, and apparently we have been. so i think we have to first salute the success of this operation to go on as long as it did in such extraordinary, difficult circumstances operating in moscow. secondly, the fact we got him out alive. i can tell you from history that doesn't happen all the time, that we successfully exfiltrate our agents. i know that vladimir putin and the fsb right now are very upset about that, and that's another success for the intelligence community. the third thought, though, and i think it's an important part of this wh

information and potentially even inadvertently expose the spy so they decided that was the time to exfiltrate him what's interesting is that c.n.n. actually asked the cia about all of this and were probably disappointed when the agency really cost them strong doubt about the truth behind all of that misguided speculation that the president's handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligence which he has access to each and every day driven alleged exfiltration operation is inaccurate now shortly after that putting yet another spot in the c.n.n. report trump who came forward and vehemently denied his involvement i know nothing about it i see the cia responded perfectly so whatever the cia said is fine with me but i heard they responded perfectly i don't think so there are many holes to the story we're relying on anonymous sources and classified information which makes it almost impossible to verify but of course the major actors are denying any involvement or indeed. knowledge of the case despite being named instead of shamed quite confidently but without really any evidence in the report th

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., democratic national committee, system that its was exfiltrating data. this comes from two sources that have been linked to the russian government. they had on their servers for a long time malware from the g.r.u. and more recently in the spring, they had additional -- suffered an additional attack from the f.s.b. so what is sort of strange about that is you had two russian services that were working at cross purposes because they weren't communicating. what was happening was folks at the d.n.c. were getting emails from people that looked like they were trusted. it wasn't like hi, i am a nigerian prince. these were documents and pieces of email that were very specifically tailored using intelligence to gain the attention and the trust of the recipients to encourage them to click a link where upon this malwear would enter their system and it's very pornts because it's also very characteristic of this particular brand of malware which has attacked the joint chiefs of staff civilian email system in august, the year before. that's how i first began to know a

secret missions exfiltration of spies top level intelligence it sounds like the makings of a thriller and in a way it is because this is an elaborate tale recently had by c.n.n. multiple trump administration officials tell me that these are officials with direct knowledge that in a previously undisclosed to secret mission in 2017 the u.s. successfully extracted from russia one of its highest level sources covert sources inside the russian government the c.n.n. report claims a man at the highest level of the kremlin was secretly feeding theeye a information for over a decade that he was so ensconced within the kremlin wall so friendly with and trusted by president putin's inner circle but he even managed to photograph documents on the russian leaders desk u.s. intelligence officials had already expressed concerns about the safety of this by other russian assets given the length of their cooperation with the u.s. this according to a former senior intelligence official the report is peppered with think mentions of secret sources mysterious interviews and skips a bit on the facts facts ma

it's getting into the systems and exfiltrating information. then being accused. all of us spending weeks trying to pass what they've done and talking about it at the highest levels of government and here on the media as well. this gives them an awful lot of publicity emphasizing the prowess of the russian intelligence services. >> they've been doing this for nine months undetected until recently. i want to turn to the new details on the poisoning of russian opposition leader alexey navalny. clarissa ward linked to russia's fsb. today we are learning that a member of that team confessed in an incredible 49 minute phone call that a solid form of the toxin was placed in navalny's underwear. you cannot make this up. russia is denying this, but given your expertise on russia and president putin, how do you square such a sloppy operation with the extreme sophistication of the cyber attack? >> well, these are carried out by different units. you know, there's a lot of experts that have been talking about this for some time, that you obviously have the a team and the b te

not only did that source exist but he had been exfiltrated in part because of concerns that president trump might burn him, might identify him to the russians. we got "the new york times" reporting that this source had been providing valuable intelligence from inside the kremlin for decades which, of course, means losing him inside the kremlin would be a priceless loss for u.s. intelligence capabilities. we then in very quick succession got nbc news reporting. by monday night this week after that flurry of reporting that man had reportedly fled that house along with his family. by tuesday the russian government had published what they said was his name. russian news organizations immediately started denigrating him saying he definitely wasn't important. he wouldn't have had access to any important information. at the same time though perhaps belying that they were sort of interested in tracking him down, russian authorities did take steps to alert interpol as of yesterday that they want interpol, international assistance in tracking this guy down. and did i mention that u.s. intellige

foreign nation small sensor different teligent which she has access to each and every day he drove and exfiltration on the ration in the curate so there are many holes to the story we're relying on anonymous sources and classified information which makes it almost impossible to verify then of course the major actors who deny any involvement or indeed knowledge of the case despite being so sort of confidently named and shamed in the articles so at this stage with so many more than anything else it really reads like a very good spy thriller another twisted tale thank you so much for bringing us that report. italian prime minister a with his newly formed government are facing a 2nd confidence vote on monday it just have become tie it won the 1st go out and also announced the new direction at elite would take on of the coalition he now is it alive now to our correspond troll it devinsky charlotte what did the prime minister at say about has passive priority is well he was talking about those priorities it seemed to be very different from what we saw when he was the prime minister of the last government

so when the exfiltration took place and i remember walking into the station chief's house and it was full of these people in white shirts and khaki pants and i remember yelling. who are these people and and so it was a it was a happy moment. it was also the process that john describes. of coming together the intelligence services. it also fit like a matrushka doll within the larger policy framework. i mean poland at that point had no security cover at all after the abolition of the warsaw pact poland was alone in the world with 30,000 soviet troops still on its soil it was negotiating for their departure, but poland had every interest in a good relationship with united states and this intelligence part of it. that really was a spearhead. in the aftermath of the exfiltration we had visits from the head of the cia judge webster and the head of the fbi the bill sessions and i can remember the the polls gave the the dinner the welcoming dinner to judge webster in ovilla, which was quite near my residence and which was notorious as a as a ub or a polish intelligence villa they had a 1964

it was the media that perhaps led to the exfiltration of this particular individual. it said this. former intelligence official said there was no public evidence that mr. trump directly endangered the source and other current american officials insisted that media scrutiny of the agency sources alone was the impetus for the extraction. that is a complication to say the least for a couple of reasons. first of all you're suggesting maybe because the media was trying to figure out who the source may be and what the source may or may not know about possible russian interference in the 2016 campaign may have led to the exfiltration. but if you pardon me, that is debatable according to "the new york times." certainly heard the president say briefly yesterday, i have a lot to say about it. cia made the statement. we're standing by that. interesting, we'll watch the story throughout the day. we're making cause as we speak to see what else we can find out from the administration's perspective here at fox news. i mentioned earlier, guys, the president has a busy day. you heard brian talk abo

this particular individual that was exfiltrated in 2017, i have no concern at this particular point in time that putin will come and get him now. what i worry about is a year from now, two years from now, five years from now he has a wife and three kids. he was resettled and -- in the defector operations center. i have to emphasize we respect our deif he canners. i could see that this person arguing to keep his true name. it's very difficult for defectors when they come to the united states. let me explain it this way. i think it's an important point. most of these people had important positions back home. most of these people never told their spouse what they're doing. they didn't tell their kids i want schlitz. this particular guy, for example, as you said, worked in place for us for ten years. that's a long time to be a opportunity i'll have to use it, for us to screw up, which we never did. >> for us to finish up. so at this point -- at that point we decided frankly after some media things, connecting him, suggesting that he had an important position within putin's inner circle, th

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trying to gain access to files and information and things of value from an information perspective to exfiltrate that from your entity. of slen: with the advent wireless, has that made security more difficult or has it made it easier? mr. watters: i think it has made it more difficult. it is just another access point. you talk about trying to maintain the protective layer without the idea of the threat, if you're not saying here are the threats that are active, how do i protect against those, if you do not look at the world through that lens, you say i have all these things to protect them, how do i protect them, and you go to all the access points. devices,net, all the the connectivity with the vendors, the channel partners, you are so connected, and all the wireless connections, there is no way to protect everything. wireless is just another expansion point of the ways into your environment from a threat perspective. instead of trying to protect everything, the view that shifts and really shrink's the problem from the defenders perspective, what are the threats am concerned about, how are they