katrina moment. >> president obama's katrina moment. [ laughter ] >> jon: hurricane katrina? i believe we've all seen the damning photos of presidential flyover surviving the human suffering of the healthcare.gov web site from a safe distance. i'm not trying to polish the dot terd that is healthcare.gov but comparing the government abdication of responsibility during hurricane katrina, death of hundreds of people, the displacement of hundreds of thousands of people to a bleeb (bleep) web site is offensive apparently to the people in charge during hurricane katrina. >> katrina was a real after but we also had jurisdictional challenges because we had a mayor. we had a governor of louisiana that was a challenge to work with. >> that is andy card saying it's not fair to president bush to compare the healthcare.gov rollout to katrina because during katrina bush didn't get the cooperation of louisiana governor the way obama gets it now. >> nobody is going to bully louisiana into joining part of obamacare. >> jon: bullying? the feds were going to pay for it? how was that bully somet

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for us it was hurricane katrina. because, while public support had been dropping for the war in iraq, after katrina, after the many members of the public, and every member of the democratic party, viewed us as incompetent. and it transcended to everything else we did. i'm not -- you know, you can't look in a crystal ball. but i believe this is a moment after which everything will be different for the president. >> well that may be the wish hoping to be fulfilled. anyway republicans hope so anyway. yes the rollout of the website has been disastrous. but the comparisons to katrina. think about it, don't really hold up. during hurricane katrina, the real knock on the president, his crime if you will, was his alleged indifference to the suffering. there he was looking out the window of the plane, not interested in getting down there, worried about the people dehydrated and starving and left out in the cold, left out in the heat there. at least president obama stumbled while trying to help people all the while republicans

and katrina, really? if they want to go there, let's go. >> there are moments in a presidency where everything is different afterward and i believe this is that moment. for us, it was hurricane katrina. >> even "the new york times" is calling this obama's katrina which is great for george w. bush. >> if you bring it up at the white house, they reject that. expletives start flying around. >> we hate to say we told you so but we look like geniuses now. >> what is the republican plan? be careful. >> we have to concentrate, by the way, not on who we are against but what we're fighting for. >> i thought the republicans believed in the free enterprise system. >> it lets people keep the plans they like. >> the gentleman needs to read the bill. doesn't say that the insurance companies must sell the policies. >> we look like geniuses now. >>> all right. disrupters, we are going to get to it. we have a false narrative to pull apart. we saw more angst about the rollout of the affordable care act and apology from the

and, two, they're comparing it to katrina, when until this morning they were denying katrina was a mistake of the bush administration. >> well, exactly. and i think that this is an effort to try to rewrite history. i mean, now that cheney is back on the scene, he wants to cover up from some of the absolute manmade disasters that he led in his administration. but you know, you're really talking about a disaster that waits in terms of health care reform. the fact that my republican colleagues are so obsessed about denying health care to americans, so that here we are, the richest country on the planet, in the history of the world, and we have finally achieved a level of development that we are prepared to provide health care, and they want to stop that from happening? and they are wishing for the demise of the obama administration so that every other day they have something else to call katrina. you know, it is also minimizing what happened in katrina. >> absolutely. >> so you are going to talk about a miscomparison. you're going to use it seven different times, you are minimizing the death

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. >> le diremos quienes imitan a katrina la famosa calaca mexicana. >> ♪ . x >> se activaron recortes para snap, la reducción será de 36 dólares para una familia de 4 personas, elevaron el dinero en beneficiarios pero expiro hoy, ma de 47 millónes de personas usan el servicio. >> grupos convencen a politicos para debatir la reforma migratoria . >> pero congresistas no dan brazo a torcer, vemos desde la capital del país. >> el capitolio es el lugar de conversas antes de que termine el 2013. >> necesitamos esforzarnos para que esten comprometidos para la reforma migratoria . >> el senado está estáncado, los últimos días surgen propuesta como darrel aisa que legalizaria a ciudadanos sin una via de ciudadania. >> sabes que aceptando algo así es mejor que nada por que hablamos en este punto por que trabajadores quieren venir y hacer dinero en américa en tierra de oportunidad. >> otros piensan que es positivo que congresistas iliana y david son pocos que se suman a la propuesta. >> más republicanos habla de la legalización y apoyar posibilidad de ciudadania. >> a pesar de las m

. >> is this going to be obama's katrina? >> president obama's katrina. >> it's crazy. it's like no matter what happens during the obama administration, there's the perfect bush [ bleep ]. for the occasion. >> the crazy part is, it's conservatives and republicans that are in the biggest rush to make the comparisons. remember that terrible thing that bush did that we fought for eight years to convince you wasn't bad but actually good? is well now we use those very incidents as the low watermark for your guy! >> what i think is happening here, the deep bottom line, is the right had bush, a guy they originally believed in, who left office with record-low approval ratings, a deeply painful experience. their response has been to minimize obama in order to make bush seem less bad. but what you're doing in doing that is conceding that bush was bad, and that you're embarrassed about katrina. and though we may be embarrassed about the rollout, we will never be embarrassed by having fought to extend health care. we will never apologize

>> president obama's katrina moment. >> katrina. katrina. hurricane katrina. yes. i believe we've all seen the damning photos of the presidential flyover surveying the human suffering of the healthcare.gov website from a safe distance. >> are these katrina comparisons over the top? >> look, i love jon stewart, but he's wrong. what you have to -- >> we're going to end up on "the daily show." >> i know. i hope not. what we have to understand is we're not comparing death to a bad website. what we're comparing is the fact that this is the second term for president obama. and he is flailing just as george bush flailed in his second term. and we've found that in second terms, it is very difficult for you to come out of it in a positive light for history. >> lauren, i think you're right. i think the problem is that that's a generic correct assessment of second term presidencies. everyone says, oh, my god. you're second term. you're a lame duck. it's going to be impossible to get anything done. we done compare it to auschwitz. my problem with this, i don't think katrina wa

let's talk about katrina and compare katrina to this storm. katrina making landfall at 1:25, haiyan at 185. that seems like 70-mile-per-hour difference. here's the thing. because the power of wind increases by the cube, you know, that little thing back in high school you x to the 3 power? you have to multiply this out. hurricane katrina, the power of haiyan was 3.7 times the power of katrina. if there was actually the wind gusts that they were predicting at 2:35, that would make haiyan's wind gusts six times more powerful than the entire storm of katrina when katrina made landfall. you can't put your head around 3 or 6. how can something be three times worse than katrina? that's what these people are still dealing with now. the storm has moved away, it's getting better but it's moving into the south china sea and right into the vietnam and taking a little bit of a turn here at ho chi minh city but finally losing power as it gets closer to vietnam because it's going to get over land. >> it's hard to imagine. you talk how huge this thing is. eve

united states including, of course, hurricane katrina, the one that is so fresh in our minds because of just how devastating this storm was. when katrina made landfall, it was a category 3 with 125 mile- per-hour winds which is much lower than the 149 mile-per- hour winds that haiyan had when it made landfall earlier this morning. a little closer comparison is hurricane andrew. that storm in 1992 had winds up in the 175-mile an hour range. it was the strongest storm as far as wind speed goes to ever hit the united states and it's one of the only category 5 storms to ever make landfall here in the united states. so we have some historical perspectives to put it in for you. typhoon haiyan with the 195- mile an hour winds is an estimate, satellite estimates because we don't have the same technology tracking this storm that we do in the united states, but we can compare it to typhoon tip in 1979 with 190-

also pay for the continuing costs the electricity the sewers restoration for instance when hurricane katrina happened taxpayers had already paid almost five hundred million dollars for the superdome they paid another four hundred forty seven million dollars for the restoration of it after katrina hit that was in the midst of everyone else trying to get the money to pay for themselves. so we're. so so ties are paying for the maintenance on these cities i can't help but think about you know the chicago school closure the biggest school closure in chicago's history one hundred schools and of course at the same time they're opening this massive stadium their sports stadium and what happens is the community says no we do not want you to build this giant stadium and we do not want to put up and foot the bill for pretty much megan while it has history has shown time and time again these n.f.l. teams have left or they have threatened to leave just to give you some examples the minnesota vikings threaten to leave in two thousand and eleven the atlanta falcons threaten to leave this year the rams the

. >> there was no katrina warning. >> but over 1, hundred people died at katrina. that wasn't the bush administration's fault. t could be much worse. >> joining me is mike pap antonio, ring of fire host. if those folks had lived through katrina, they might have a little different opinion of the thing. good to have you with us tonight. what's your take on this comparison coming from actually both sides of the aisle, that katrina and obama care have some kind of parallel to be made to the american people. >> well, obama saw a health care disaster and ran to fix it. the republicans saw katrina disaster and ran away from it. i don't know why the media can't quite get that. you can conclude a couple possibilities, ed. the media's handling of everything is either a sense they're woefully ignorant and uninformed, or they have a design to sell more commercials, based on poorly analyzed attacks on this white house. this fox news methodology of attacking this white house is not just fox news. you know, if you take a look at the comparisons, you've got comparisons that the ka

i lost two loved ones in katrina. it was a waiting game. it was hard on my family waiting to see - you know, waiting for someone to give us answers about, you know, if that was our loved one and that. imagine losing them and don't know where the body is. no one knows where they are at. you have to have a funeral three to four or six months later because they finally find someone they say is him or her. you are stuck with an open case, open grief, no closure, because they don't know where - if that's then. the question that i posed to myself is we have to keep moving. you know, we ain't got time to get angry. we have to make a decision. it's your hand. you got to work the hand. you got do the best you can with what you've got. i have water. i know how to take a bath. i know how to look up and see everything is full of mud in houses and flats. and loved ones and people and decomposing bodies stinking. we had nothing but the close on our back. we had our heart. we had will. we had love and compassion. we did the best we could with that. the fi

. >> new orleans bounced back since hurricane katrina struck in august. new businesses and schools have appeared. in the hardest hit areas the streets resemble the days after the storm. >> it's been nearly a decade since the rising waters and deadly winds of hurricane katrina ravaged new orleans. this neighbour hood the working class ninth ward was wiped out much herman's home was ruined and gutted and rebuilt. >> it was an eyesore. i figure if everyone comes together and do, everything will come back perfect. >> far from it. the neighbourhood and others are shadows of their former selves. incomplete, weeds where homes once stood. the carcasses of a community remains. >> no one will move into a house in a block if they are the only ones on the block. >> the city owns 600 vacant structures in the lowest ward. 3,000 abandoned buildings and lots stand. most of them are gone for good. >> >> nonprofit activist laura paul wants a commitment to bring them back. >> half of those people were living below the average mean income. they deserve every opportunity to r

the comparisons between the health care rollout and hurricane katrina. >> hurricane katrina. i believe we've seen the damning photos of the president flying over seeing the suffering of the healthcare.gov website. >> this is "hardball," the place for politics. side-by-side, so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board -- what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] split atoms? [ flo chuckles ] [ whirring ] hey, how's that atom-splitting thing going? oh! a smarter way to shop around -- now that's progressive. call or click today. >>> time now for a quick look at politics. rand paul on fox news last night made it clear who he thinks republicans should consider as their nominee. roll the tape. >> i think they want someone outside of, you know, what's been going on. so, for example, someone like myself who's been promoting term limits. someone who says we shouldn't have decade after decade longevity up here. i think i'm enough new here to still be perceived as an outsider should that be the choice at some time in 2016. >> hot news. rand paul supports

i have done a number of documentaries and specials about new orleans prior to katrina, since katrina. one of those documentaries, i spent some time with you. some wonderful folks were working on a project to bring back the neighborhood. i will let you tell the story. i'm curious as to what is happening with the part. >> it is like holding a tiger by its tail. we are thriving. we are back. the neighborhood that was post- world war ii the only place where african-americans, jim crow new orleans could purchase a home then, and then in the middle of it was a golf course designed by joseph bartholomew. he couldn't play on most courses in new orleans because he was a black man. mayberry, ablack blue care -- a blue-collar place to grow up. it became an incubator of black talent. morreale, mark morreale, the national urban league president, we all came from this neighborhood. lisa jackson. it was annika binder -- an incubator of talents. if it wasn't for us, we knew people would give up on it. moses generation that has done so much to make sure that we have this wonderful neighborhood, what s

so, this is not just katrina. fortunately. we'll talk about what happened there but some creative thinking prevented that from taking place, and that's another lesson of the book. that sometimes when you think there's no hope and these really dire decisions have to be made, sometimes they can be averted with creative thinking. >> well, doctors at this hospital did get some of their sickest patients out first before the flood waters rose too high, and all power was lost. and they wrote numbers on pieces of paper and -- to prioritize patients and then they changed the order. so the ones were the healthiests, the 2s were sicker, and the 3s were the very sickest, and the patients with do not resuscitate orders, and the 3s would go last. as rescue efforts lag, the desperately sick got even sicker, and what was to be done about them when it was time for everyone else to leave? where is the line between comfort care and mercy killing? who decides? well, at least 20 patients, according to the work of forensic pathologists, found were

bush after katrina. this is a president who has stumbled so badly, but he's the only president we have. i hope we can find a way -- >> so here comes the "new york times." the "times" also made the truly unbelievable comparison this morning. a headline on their website read, quote, health law rolls out, stumbles. draw parallels to bush's hurricane response. give me a break. unfortunately, this isn't the first time these comparisons have been made. the chattering class recently managed to compare obama care to katrina and iraq in a matter of seconds. >> obama, to continue to speak about the actions of his administration as a guy with a great seat but no responsibility, is totally off-putting. and it does not have a whiff of leadership in it. >> if i could, on credibility, just like on ckatrina, the big problem president bush had, dmip diminishing the significance, way to go brownie. you had the president yesterday talking about glitches and kinks. >> katrina was a storm. the health care law was of obama's

she looked at herme tricks and saw she saw crossover with posies cafe. >> katrina sent the e maim hey you have the same customer, they are swiping both cards let's connect up. >> she reached out to me to see if we wanted to do some sort of campaign. >> we plug each other's stores. if you shop here this month you get a reward at posie's. >> if they purchased a birthday cake they would get a discount. >> we share our customer and the customer doesn't have to go outside of that. they get it. we'll be more profitable. our market share is bigger. our voice is louder. they understand that. >> government officials in all 50 states and washington, d.c. including president obama have officially recognized small business saturday. i recently spoke with acting small business administrator to ask her why it's so important for us to support independently owned businesses in our communities. so, small business saturday has gained so much traction over the last three years. why do you think it's gotten this wide adoption? >> well, i think everybody enjoys supporting their local communities and shopp

. >> katrina and her husband michael are founders of portland-based supportland. a collaborative program for locally owned businesses. >> they get new customers every month. we tell them how many customers. right now, the average is 18 to 24 a months. then they put a reward up. >> supportland is a rewards program for locally owned businesses. >> after three years of growth, supportland is starting to make an impact. >> there's 150 businesses, and just over 60,000 active users on supportland. >> supportland is a new kind of consumer loyalty card. it's a single card that customers use for shopping in any of the program's locally owned member stores. each time they make a purchase, the store swipes their cards to give them points, and shoppers collect those points to exchange for rewards from any of the network shops. >> do you have your supportland card today? >> for the businesses, there's a cost to join. however, for the members, it's completely free. all you do is you earn points by shopping at local businesses. as simple as that. keep the card in your wallet and

taking a look at katrina, at the height of katrina's strength, the category 5, taking a look at this really beautiful looking storm, but just a monster. and then high on, before it made landfall, you can see again, that circular structure, and that perfect eye right there. actually haiyan is smaller comparatively speaking to katrina. and katrina, once it made landfall was a cat 3, which we think was equivalent to a cat 5. this is the latest, so it has gone down to category 2. we still think it could be a strong cat 1 as it makes a second landfall across vietnam over the next couple of days and we could see rain estimates over two feet in this region. back to you. >>> a mandatory evacuation order is now under way in vietnam as it braces for the onslaught of this typhoon, more than 500,000 people living in a direct danger zone. told to head to shelters and government buildings, cities and coastal areas, especially vulnerable. people there are putting up sandbags, securing boats as they await the approaching storm. >>> the 2,000-pound satellite the falling back toward earth now, expecte

president bush did not create katrina. >> one is a natural disaster. one is a self-inflicted mortal wound. >> he's an oil man so he actually caused it. >> there's a connection there. i think the end result's going to be the same though. this is going to be a lasting impression on the obama legacy. hard for him to ever get over. >> -- ask your political analysis, tell you that -- >> except katrina affected one region -- >> how are you going to reverse something? >> you can't. >> let's talk about this. he'll never reverse this. this will go with him for the rest of his entire life. when you look back 30 or 40 years from now, remember barack obama, oh, yeah, he's the guy who blew obama care. >> katrina was one region. this is across the country. >> bob, how do you think he actually overcomes this? honestly. >> i don't think he does overcome it in the short term. i'm not ready to say this doesn't -- i mean, i go back for singer payer. i'd much prefer to live with this than live with the insurance company and the free market trying to decide who's going to

in the states we see things like katrina. we see the issues don't always get resolved in the first couple of months. it does take time. i think in general the public donors understand that. >> bob, in the last day while getting ready for this program i saw very smart, very well thought out device saying tie giving if you're worried and you want to make sure that the money goes where you want it to go, and untied giving because the people you are giving it to know how the money would best be spent. which is it? if i am sitting at home, and i want to help out, do i give it to a specific use or do i want to send that money in and say make a decision and use it the best way possible. >> usually providing unrestricted donations is better for the non-profit organization. in natural disaster relief we do have organizations who are very skilled in this area. they have the people on the ground. they've got the expertise, communications, transportation, and i would sadie sasster relief is a time when you want to find those professional

people died after hurricane katrina. they died in the iraq war. how can you compare the failed rollout of obama care to that? >> that's the oldest trick in the book. of course i'm not crises. there is no comparison between iraq and katrina and obama care. there haven't been thousands of deaths with obama care. there is a correlation about how the presidents handled the crisis and how the public views them. >> we are seeing a similar approval rating. president obama was at incredible ig heights. now look at this. 1760 days into the presidency. president obama, 41%, president bush, 38%. a gallup poll says two points. 37% for barack obama. 35% president bush. they are neck and neck in terms of how the public dislikes them. >> it's a race to the bottom. those aren't the most important numbers. what held up president bush in his first and second term were even if people didn't agree with him they liked and trusted him. as soon as the president loses that competency and credibility with the public, which bush did in 2005 and president obama is now, they

the comparisons between the health care rollout and hurricane katrina. >> hurricane katrina. i believe we've seen the damning photos of the president flying over seeing the suffering of the healthcare.gov website. >> this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> time now for a quick look at politics. rand paul on fox news last night made it clear who he thinks republicans should consider as their nominee. roll the tape. >> i think they want someone outside of, you know, what's been going on. so, for example, someone like myself who's been promoting term limits. someone who says we shouldn't have decade after decade longevity up here. i think i'm enough new here to still be perceived as an outsider should that be the choice at some time in 2016. >> hot news. rand paul supports rand paul. anyway, paul was also asked whether he would consider chris christie a true conservative or not. he said probably, if you have a loose definition of conservative. anyway, we'll be right back. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that

president bush did not create katrina. >> right. one of the natural -- one is a natural disasser and one is a self-inflicted mortal wound. >> he's an oil man, so he caused it. >> there were people who said that. >> there is a good connection there. >> i think the end result will be the same. >> i think you're going to see this is going to be a lasting impression on the obama legacy. >> oh, really? >> except katrina excepted one region. >> obviously it's going to be a negative onou him. how you going to reverse something -- >> let's talk about this for a couple more minutes. he'll never reverse this.this this will go with him for the rest of his entire life and when you look back 30 or 40 years from now, remember barak obama? oh, yeah, he's the guy who blew obamacare. >> katrina was one region, though. this is across the country. bob, how do you think hery. overcomes this? >> i don't think he does overcome it in the short-term. but i'm not ready to say -- again, if you have to live with something, i would much prefer to live with thi

katrina at landfall was 3, and this was 5 at the high end. possibly the strongest storm ever to make landfall in recorded meteorological history. it will be some time before that is concerned. catastrophic. >> do you think the surge will be the biggest - what caused the most damage. >> the wind flattened a lot of structures. yes, if other events and reports are an indication, it's likely a lot of death and destruction was caused by the surge. >> what was your response when you saw the devastating pictures from the philippines, having seen what katrina did in new orleans. >> it was all too familiar - very similar to the destruction we saw in our communities. it was a reminder that - to avoid this thing, you have to plan well in advance. it's too late to really make the plans in the heat of the moment. >> what is the reaction from from people down there. i think people are now starting to get a handle on what has happened. obviously after katrina and rita and gustof and ike, i think people are sensitive to the - you know, the suffering going on

. >> is this obama's political katrina? >> stephen: yes, it's exactly like katrina but, of course, there's one thing you can't say to president obama! >> brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. (audience reacts). (laughter) oh, oh, oh, that is just wrong. because he's not doing a heck of a job. the point is, obama couldn't make health care work, so his legacy is now set-- bad at using technology to extend life, good at using technology to end it. (audience reacts) and this failure goes beyond the web site, folks. remember, the president repeatedly said "if you like your plan, you can keep it." but now millions of plans are being canceled. so last week, the president held a press conference to address the problem. jim? >> oh, the humanity! >> stephen: no, no, no! jim, no, wrong disaster. (laughter) you know what? you know what? i think cnn's the don lemon put obama's public implosion into the proper perspective. >> you won't find two politicians who've had worse weeks than president obama and toronto mayor rob ford. they've h

. >> is this obama's katrina. >> president obama's katrina. >> crazy. it's like no matter what happens during the obama administration, there's the perfect bush [ bleep ] up. for the occasion. >> good health care could be obama's iraq? >> is this as some are suggesting, barack obama's enron. >> this could be obama's 9/11. >> are we now watching obama's mission accomplished speech? >> they have their heck of a job up brownie moment. >> this is obama's my pet goat moment. >> the crazy part is, it's conservatives and republicans that are in the biggest rush to make the comparisons. remember that terrible thing that bush did that we thought for eight years to convince you wasn't bad but actually good? well, now we use those very incidents as the low-water mark for your guy. >> the katrina comparison specifically deserves a five-second rebuttal. we do it by showing this handy chart from media manners of deaths in katrina compared to those from the affordable care rollout. so no, "new york times," no katrina. obama care is very much its own thing. it's a long

one quick thing i want to say, i think comparisons to katrina are so not apt, people died in katrina. there are a lot of angry people that can't get their policies renewed, a lot of confusion, it's inexcusable, this botched rollout, but this is not a katrina. >> a lot of people have been making that point, that it's very different. go ahead, jonathan. >> i was going to say on the question of people dying, you know, i mean, why do people die in connection with a lack of health insurance? because they don't go to the doctor in time. right? so we need to look at this in kind of a larger perspective, which is, you know, are we better off as the republicans argue, going back to where we were before this all started, where if you got sick or your kid got sick you were very likely going to lose your house because your insurance or lack of insurance didn't cover your medical expenses? so, yes, some people are having some policies that generally are not very good insurance cancel, yes, the administration has totally bullocked up the website, but we're in a better place than we were before with

do like katrina, my pal and colleague, she had family members who lost everything in katrina. and she said this is disgusting. 1833 people lost their lives in katrina. this is bad, a political problem for the president. a technological problem. i wish there had been more accountability here. i think hhs has screwed this up but you can't compare it to hurricane katrina. >> what do you think? is the hurricane katrina comparison, i guess i see paul's point. in terms of what did it to the bush presidency and how he lost the legitimacy, the credibility. "the new york times" says he does not have with his constituents. is it a fair comparison? >> i think hurricane katrina might not be the best analogy. think about iran could not rax if you see president obama's approval ratings, they ten to be a lot higher. a lot of americans just like president obama because they trusted president obama. and i think what has happened now with obama care is that it seems as though the president has not been leveling with people and i think that a lot of that trust the people had, they thought he is

he was in the post katrina and new orleans center. he trained people in the film. he received an advocacy fellowship and named a public interest fellow by harvard law school. next we have maurice call well. he was convicted in the housing project here in san francisco. there was no physical evidence linking him to the crime yet he was still convicted based on the false testimony of a single neighbor. he was sentence to life behind bars. in prison mr. colwell contacted the center for help and located two witnesses who saw the murder and said mr. colwell was not involved in anyway. they located the real killer who confessed and he committed the murder. that man is serving a life sentence for a subsequent murder . on march 28, 2011 after more than 20 years in prison, maurice colwell is free. thank you for being here. [ applause ] linda star is the legal and cofounding in the santa clara law, law center clerk received her ph.d.. she wrote and argued post conviction matters in state and federal court and supervisor in the sex crimes unit. she worked as a staff attorney

new york magazines advises if every one of obama's katrina's were katrina america would no longer exist and we'd live in a watery hellscape. joining me today, the columnist for "the daily beast," the columnist, there are many columnist, but the only one to read on "the daily beast," sally cohn, political writer brian boiler, former white house press secretary and founding partners of insight agency robert gibbs and syndicated columnist for "the washington post" kathleen parker. joining us from seattle washington, washington state insurance commissioner. mike, before i get to you, i want to get our folks in new york on the record here. robert, specifically, 80% isn't good enough? >> in baseball you'd be in the hall of fame twice. >> also baseball with like 50%. >> you would. i think it's a measure of improvement, a measure of how far they have had to come in order to get 80% to be a success rate. not many 10 years old, mine included, would think 80% -- >> is that a c or a b? >> there's all sorts of grading systems these days. i think, as we've talked about before, the end of the month is