eugene, i'm going to start with you. when you listen to committee members raskin and chairman thompson talk about pence, very careful with their words. they aren't overtly threatening subpoenas. they seem to be almost appealing to his patriotism, to his sense of identity as an institutionalist. does the committee really think that he's going to cooperate? >> i think so, and i think just based on exactly what you said, how they are kind of coaxing him into it. like remember, mike, we are patriots. you love this country. don't forget they threatened to hang you on january 6th. all of those things are ways to hopefully tone down the temperature for him and make it not as tough. i will say, you know, whether he goes voluntarily or not, he is almost as key to this conversation as anyone else, right, other than donald trump. there's no other big kahuna than mike pence. he received the most pressure, all of the anger from both donald trump and his allies throughout this process, before, during, and after january 6th. so he has

eugene, your reaction is open in your paper? >> yeah that is exactly right that he ran this campaign about local schools on his first day he sees this control of the schools from localities. he bans the teaching of critical race theory which is not being taught in virginia schools. so that is irrelevant. except we also bans the teaching of divisive -- you can't teach american history and race without raising divisive concepts. that is pretty divisive. and then of course he invalidates mask mandates that have been imposed by a local school boards that are supported by parents in the school districts. and, now, there is a big question as to whether -- he has been taken to court by a number of school districts. i suspect he might lose. but -- you know it's all about the culture wars first couple weeks at least an office are all about culture wars and not about the kind of technocratic get it done optimistic government that he promised. >> and, mike, eugene summed it up there. invalidating of mask mandates, banning of divisive conce

. >> joining me now, msnbc political contributor eugene daniels. he's a white house reporter for politico and co-author of "playbook." and the renee graham, associate editor for "the boston globe." renee, when you look at that polling, what does that tell you that the one thing, the one thing americans can agree on is that the country is headed in the wrong direction and that we're too divided. >> well, you know, interestingly, back in 2014, there was a piece for "the daily beast" looking at the history of that question. where is the country? are you happy with the direction of the country? overwhelmingly, decade after decade, americans have not been happy with the direction of their country. the one time that the numbers were very high that they were happy with the direction of their country was just after 9/11, and that dropped off to about -- it was about 72% after 9/11, and that dropped off to 40%. so there was always a level of dissatisfaction in this country, and that was without dealing with the pandemic that's reaching its second year. you

eugene, you're next here. certainly, speaker pelosi was the big legislative star of the obama years. she and reid forged quite a strong bond. what can you tell us about their relationship? >> yeah, i think that's another thing that's really important here is about how close he was to his colleagues, right? you heard the senator just a bit ago talk about, you know, his support for her, and that's something that you hear from a lot of different people, whether they were up and coming folks like president obama or even alexandra ocasio-cortez who says that he has reached out to her or he had reached out to her multiple times over the years. and that relationship with nancy pelosi is something that, as you look back at the obama years, the biden as vice president years, is pinnacle and is really important about -- it tells you how those eight years worked out, because working hand-in-glove, both nancy pelosi and senator reid, as teammates, and as equals, in pushing through the legislation from president obama that

still with us to discuss, eugene robinson and mike murphy. eugene, before trump dumped the call, he was, again, relitigating the 2020 election. listen. >> how come biden couldn't direct 20 people for a press? how come when he went to speak in different locations, nobody came to watch? but all of a sudden, he got 80 million votes? nobody believes? that >> if you forgive me, maybe because the election wasn't about you. >> to steve's point, at the end, 2020 was absolutely a referendum on trump. and voters rejected him. if he insist on making 2022 about him and his grievances, won't that hurt republicans? the big winning moment for republicans was glenn youngkin in virginia. and he didn't go anywhere near trump. >> yeah. and so, donald trump makes 2022 about him. that is a net positive for democrats. look, democrats got their majority in the senate because donald trump gave them to senate seats in georgia. they are not frankly anticipating winning. it may be in the back. but donald trump gave it to them. he already said that democrats, stacey abr

still with us is eugene robinson and bill crystal. bill, the minority leader has talked about perhaps and men didn't the 1887 electoral vote count act. the electoral count act. which many people didn't know existed. but it's something that happened that governs whatever happens on january six. you tweeted today that maybe he will, maybe he won't. but that is not where our attention should be focused. >> i am strongly for reforming it. i personally vibe with the judge that will introduce that bill as well as the other two bills. and move the balls. which would be the easiest way to explain it to people. -- and to happen in terms of the state legislators on january six itself. -- having said that, that bill has not been -- yet. there are two other bills, which are good. bills if the republicans want some strike part to it they should not be debated on the floor. but i'd suggest that it may will be imposed to take out the parts that they like the most. they can refuse to let them even be debated. in that situation we now face the child l

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joining us now is eugene and mark. welcome back. how do you think the president did in that press conference? and to that very specific point that we've done well, do you think he conveyed that well? >> i think he did. we all know repetition is key to getting a message through. i think president biden today did something he did shouldn't have done a little -- he should do a lot more often in the future. he stood up for two hours and took questions from reporters, and talk directly to the american people. he set the agenda. he wrote tomorrow's headlines. a bunch of them actually. i think that's what he needs to do, to take the initiative as he tries to get what he can of build back better through congress. as he prevents potential international crises like russia and ukraine, as he deals with covid, as he tries to fight inflation. he does have a lot of support. but i think the first step is to take the initiative and go out there and talk to people directly a lot more. >> mark, let's play a little bit of what the president said later

experts in research on what leads people to absolutely change their minds and in conversation with eugene scott, a national political reporter on the washington post breaking news and previously wrote about identity politics and it goes to the next four years podcast available exclusively on amazon music it was a fellow of the georgetown university institute of politics, prior to joining the washington post he was washington correspondent as seen in politics so a please help me welcome eugene and also kirsten powers and the screens were. >> it is so good to see you kirsten powers. >> i know and i'm so happy you're doing this with me. >> me too, i saw you personally that another book reading. [applause] and it was very dc and is so good though, the pandemic happened in some people from writing about things that matter and these issues are addressed said disinfecting so many of us and maybe during this time. >> yes definitely, i think that it's interesting that when i came up with this idea for this book was really towards the end of 2018 it and i will say that time i thought well, where is

please help me welcome kirsten and eugene. the screen is yours. >> thank you, it is so good to see you kirsten. >> i am so happy you are doing this with me. >> i feel like the last time i saw you -- >> it is so good to know that the pandemic housetop hasn't stopped people from writing things that matter and discussing these issues that are affecting so many of us and maybe especially during this time. >> definitely turned into 2010 in my lifetime than the time as bad as it would get in it was interesting to look back now, as i write this book is as relevant things are probably going to get better and then who could have seen what was coming there was no way so i was writing this book to all of that and i came out on the other end i think this is actually a super relevant topic. >> absolutely of nothing where i think people felt the same way you did about this is bad and this is our new normal didn't know how to move to that to more hopeful and something that led them less and optimistic and i think your book does a lot of. >>

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and eugene thompson -- and eugene robinson is for the washington post, an msnbc political analyst. give us your reaction to the totality of what we have learned today about this request for a grand jury. and if you will address that issue that i was addressing with jeff, what about a federal investigation, what used to be your judge job in georgia, a federal investigation of the same situation? >> well, i am glad to be with you, thank you for having me back. i was not surprised to see the district attorney asked for the special grand jury. i think she was a little bit late in doing so. really this is the belt and suspenders for her on whether she has enough to prove the case. but they deal about this before, is so much evidence in the case tape that is out there right now. and there is a plethora of public statements made by these potential witnesses in the public record. as you said, there was a new story attached to the letter here. i think she is trying to get some people under oath. i don't think she needs that. it tells me that she may be looking at a broader investigation, is

joining us, eugene samuels and jonathan lemire. and deborah edwards of maryland running for her former house seat. jonathan, the president said that the climate could be signed, but look behind chair number two, it's joe manchin tasked with that, writing that part. what are the chances of that working out? >> certainly, senator manchin has been a thorn in his side in this white house in the past year. he has signaled support, first on climate measures so we'll see if a deal can be struck. but certainly, there's frustration among white house aides it's come to this. the president, we heard in that news conference wednesday saying, quote, chunks of his agenda could still get through here, perhaps taking it individually, although speaker pelosi cast a little doubt on that. at the very least, it seems the package is going to have to get slimmed down. there's a chance for it to become reality. aides have signaled this, including white house chief of staff ron klain in an interview saying the white house is going to try to use the presid

eugene daniels, white house correspondent for politico. and former united states attorney, joyce alene vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. she hosts the podcasts sisters in law. along with kimberly atkins, jill wine-banks, and barbara queen. good evening to you. all let start with the text which some of the january six committee has. some of which that they are asking for between sean hannity, donald trump, mark meadows and others in trump world. i would say, from reading sean hannity side of the texas it looks like he might have been the adult in the room trying to call this thing off and indicating to everybody around that this is what he thought was going to happen on january six and did not look like the right pam. >> these text messages and emails certainly illustrate the proposition that as a prosecutor, as an investigator, if you don't go looking for evidence you are certainly not going to find it. and sometimes when you go looking the five things that do surprise you. because the tenor of these communications really

ashley, eugene, jeremy, thank you so much. thank you for the important reminder that protecting and preserving our right to vote is everything. >>> when we come back, why one of our next guests calls the past five years an effective democracy stress test for the country. and why his prognosis is not good. and later, the stress of omicron on hospitals, on parents, and on society. dr. gupta will join us. "the 11th hour" just getting underway on in busy monday night. getting underway on in busy monday ght.shback! hello, kevin hart! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. do you take aspirin? plain aspirin could be hurting your stomach. new vazalore is the first liquid-filled aspirin capsule clinically shown to cause fewer ulcers than plain aspirin. vazalore is designed to help protect... releasing aspirin after it leaves your stomach... where it is absorbed to give you the benefits of life saving aspirin... to help prevent another heart attack or stroke

eugene sticks around. when we come back, the unheralded officials at the state and local level who stood up to the disgraced ex-president's efforts to overturn an election he clearly lost. the authors of the new book "the steal" will be our next guests. >>> plus the supreme court's conservative justices showing signs of skepticism about the biden administration's vaccine mandates to fight coronavirus, which is surging everywhere. we'll look at what today's arguments tell us about which way the court might rule. >>> and we are nearing the point at which we learn to live with covid rather than eradicate, right? that's what a number of former biden medical advisor are now advising him to do. our medical expert weighs in later in the hour. >>> and right now, in louisville, colorado, president biden and first lady jill biden are surveying the devastation from those wildfires from last week. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. eadline whis after a quick break. see blood when you brush or floss

the biggest education protested some 20 years past eugene by the government in terms of some of the demos, retired teachers, the prime minister saying that they will supply teachers with moss. and they would look to hire more stuff to compensate for those who it was a result concrete. there is a sense about that not just by teachers, but across others, wait for the population because of the changing rooms in regard to co fonts is battling this current wave of the pandemic. i mean, just give you a sense this week we broken all reco into closing positive numbers. we've more than 450000 post case is being recorded in one day. i see you can see at the moment, which is intensive care isn't about 76 percent as the government is trying to deal with a steroid huge brittany decisions that have been made over the last few years. but also the last few months in weeks. and this is particularly important because we are in a very, very crucial election here. the west african nation of donna has completely rejected media reports that it's considering ice thing. and i'll show margaret detention center fo

eugene, how do you break professor rosen's recommendations for the coverage of january 6th? >> well, first of all, lawrence, happy new year to you, and happy new year to mr. rosen who -- prescription for covering freak show and -- we -- no big buildup and if there is genuine news main then you can boil that down and say this or that or the other. not necessarily broadcast clips of his rantings and -- if indeed they are the rantings that we have heard before. he is a former president. on the other side of what happened on a split screen, we have the government of the united states marking this tragic anniversary and as democratic leadership speaker of the house joe biden's president, kamala harris, this country marking a awful day in the life of our country. that is what we cover. donald trump -- like the -- sideshow he is. >> professor rosen, for -- previous to donald trump, the notion was that pretty much everything your president says's news, or is newsworthy. if it isn't something you that haven't heard before, it might still new been ooze worthy. how would you define the

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eugene daniels. and former united states attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. let's start with you and the texts. some the committee has and others they are asking for. i will say from reading sean hannity's side of the text, looks like he might have been the adult in the room indicating this is what he thought would happen on january 6 did not look like the right plan. >> these text messages and emails illustrate as a prosecutor and investigator if you do not go looking for evidence you are not going to find it and sometimes when you go looking you find things that do surprise you. this shows just how serious they were. there is perhaps a heightened level of awareness that the big lie was just that. the big lie. finding proof to illustrate the point is critical. not just for congress' work and telling the american people the story of what happened. >> on our air the committee member schiff described hannity as more than just a fox host. what do the texts tell you about th

still with us eugene robinson and bill kristol. bill, the minority leader has talked about perhaps amending the 1887 electoral vote count act, the electoral count act which many people didn't know existed but it's the thing that governs what happens on january 6th. you tweeted today maybe he will, maybe he won't, but that's not really where our attention should be focused. >> i'm strongly for reforming it, and personally if i'd been in charge of democrat strategy i would have introduced that bill as well as the other two bills. it's the easiest to complain to people. we had this chaos. having said that, that bill has not been introduced yet. there are two other bills which are good bills. they should be debated on the floor and suggest amendments, and it may well be they'll get some votes to take out the parts they like the most. they've refused to even let them be debated. and that's the situation we now face with the john lewis act. >> eugene robinson, we're interested in hearing what the president and vice president have to say

eugene, part of your beat is covering specifically vice-president harris. i want to put up on the screen what is in the vice-president's portfolio. immigration, voting rights, filibuster reform, climate change, increased union memberships, supply chain crisis, increased internet actions, france relations, she did a foreign trip to paris and also to singapore in this first year. you know, eugene, one of the things we hear, particularly from people who care about the vice-president, is why is joe biden handing her all these horrible assignments? why is he dumping all this stuff on her, as opposed to thinking, did anybody ever think that she wants to do these things? particularly voting rights, that she has some agency in what she wants to work on? >> really easy issues that you just lined out there, right? the thing that i think you are 100% correct on is that vice-president harris has not wanted to -- and i talked to a lot of people in the administration and her office. she didn't come in wanting to not do really tough stuff, right. the way it's been put to

ashley parker, pulitzer prize-winning white house bureau chief with the whales per post, eugene daniels -- and jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and the pentagon. ashley i turn to you first. this january six committee needs witnesses, with firsthand knowledge of what went down on capitol hill. walk us through how critical mike pence's. and let's get real. if mike pence does not cooperate, what are the actual consequences? because thus far, it seems like the consequences to turn on trump or worst. >> it's interesting. mike pence is incredibly critical in the run up to january six. he was the critical person, who the former president and all of his aides, his attorneys, people in trump's orbit, we're putting pressure on, to as we now know, overturn the results of the election. the former vice president was in frequent contact, including on january 5th. with the very tough conversation again on the morning of january 6th. when he again told the president and what we know was a very unpleasant conversation, that he was not going to do. on the actual day after that conversation,

the biggest education protest in 20 years past seem a eugene by the government in terms of some of the demos in the teachers. the prime minister is saying that they will supply teachers with mosques and that they will look to hire more stuff to compensate for those who eliza results come great. there is a sense about good not just by teachers, but across other weights of the population because of the changing rules in regard to colgate. fonts is battling this current wave of the pandemic. i mean, just give you a sense this week we broken all reco into coping positive numbers. we've more than 450000 post to pace is being recorded in one day. i see you will see at the moment which is intensive care. he said about 76 percent, same as the government is trying to deal with a steroid huge scrutiny at the decisions that have been made over the last few years, but also in the last few months and weeks. and this is particularly important because we are in, in a very, very crucial election year. here. are you members of furniture, bonds, democratic party, or open arms at his bid? somebody? what'

. >> reporter: that's officer eugene goodman, sprinting to respond to the riot. single handedly trying to keep a group of rioters at bay. >> reporter: among them, black men, so often the targets of american savagery, on this day, may have helped save america from its most savage. capitol police officer eugene goodman awarded for his role during the riot. >> officer goodman, thank you. >> reporter: from the capitol to courtrooms across the country, the tension between justice and injustice ran thick. >> derrick chauvin, be convicted on all three counts. leaving the courtroom in handcan you haves. >> there was a wave that rippled over this crowd. >> justice for george perry floyd jr. >> this does give a message to his family, that he was somebody, that his life mattered, that all of our lives matter. >> what do you think is the significance of this trial for social justice in america? >> it means they're finally listening to us. >> today, we are able to breathe again. >> i would not call today's verdict justice, however, because justice implies true restoration. bu

joining me now is eugene daniels. let's talk about stacey abrams and a lot of the other georgia activists. he's going to the king center, going to be with the king family today in john lewis' district bringing down all these black congress members on air force one, and stacey abrams her schedule is too busy or his poll numbers are too low and she's running for office. >> that is what the president said getting on marine one was that basically their schedules didn't match up. but let's be very clear this is as you outlined a huge speech for the president in the state that stacey abrams has been fighting for voting rights, right? so it doesn't look great for this white house she's not going to be there no matter what they say the reason for that is. when you talk to georgia democrats and voting rights advocates in the state they say why are you coming here? we're all onboard with voting rights. we know we need to change the filibuster. we know that voting rights legislation needs to happen now and we're running out of t

first, on one of the heroes from january 6, officer eugene goodman, he's speaking for the first time about that day. his heroism very clear in those videos and several videos that came out of his heroic actions in protecting senator romney, protecting really everybody in the senate with his actions. i want to play for you why he says he has not spoken up until now. >> they tell you you should embrace us, but that means i have to embrace the negativity, too, and that's something i don't want to do. you know what i mean? i'm trying to steer clear. that's mostly why i haven't been agreeing with anything like that, because i just don't want any parts of the negativity, you know. >> we have seen the ridiculous and horrible backlash towards some of the officers' actions. >> what does it mean to you that he thinks he's basically telling the truth when he tells his story? >> part of the big lie is to release hatred and contempt and ridicule against our police officers, 150 of whom suffered serious wounds and injuries. we're talking broken jaws, and these people have suffered a terrible campa

. >>> joining me now, my white house colleague and co-author of the "playbook," eugene daniels. good morning. good to see you today. it was nearly two hours with that long-awaited news conference. he and the vice president went on throughout the day to criticize lawmakers for not allowing voting rights legislation to pass. give us your sense of it, people you've been talking to in the last day or so. what impact is this going to have on voting in the upcoming elections and the entire debate on election integrity? >> the first thing is that when you talk to these advocates -- and they've been saying this for months. if the president isn't able to help push the filibuster reform f the senate isn't able to pass voting rights legislation, what do they take back to especially black voters to say this administration has done things for you. this is something in the black community we care and talk a lot about, right? so that is number one. and they still have those exact same concerns, but what's really interesting is they don't see last night as the end of the vote on voting rights l

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you know, it makes so much sense, eugene. it seems to me if you're worried about the democrats in the swing districts who are going to determine whether kevin mccarthy or nancy pelosi are speaker next time, this is a good strategy. but bbb is not the only problem. obviously, there's going to be a vote tonight on voting rights. how is that going to go? >> well, it is going to fail unless there is a miracle between now and then. and i think everyone knows that. but chuck schumer, the white house, they want folks on the record on this. they want to be able to say that voters, especially black voters, you know, we tried as much as we could to get things done. the question that you hear from advocates, and the demand, is that you can't stop here. this won't be the only thing you do. what are the next steps? the white house and senate have been coy on that. i'm told vice president harris' team has been meeting, thinking through the more coalition and public engagement they can work on. they have a lot of work to do to get voting ri

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eugene, karl rove wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal" arguing that if the shoe were on the other foot and democrats had been the one trying to overturn donald trump's win republicans would be losing their mind. so the question is do the majority of republicans who are embracing the big lie, do they actually believe it or is this just a political calculation? >> it's hard to know, honestly, because what we know is that they follow donald trump, his whim, how he feels about things. that's what we're seeing. so whether or not they believe it actually in their heart of hearts and their brain of brains almost doesn't matter because all of the actions show us that they do seem to believe t and more importantly, they're operating within this country, changing election laws based on that lie. you have a republican party that has been white washing this as everyone has been saying, but also how they can't untie the big lie, the lie about this election, from the voting rights and the tightening of voting restrictions around the country. i will put an even finer point on it, if these were b

. >> reporter: eugene yeah's family has owned this west side business for more than a century, a local place people count on. where does your money go >> right back into the community. >> some hot dogs and some chili dogs. >> reporter: but the hot dog history doesn't end here nope because dave, the original, was a russian immigrant who 90 years ago started selling hot dogs, making this the oldest hot dog stand in chicago. >> so i hope it goes on another 90 years. >> reporter: today dave's grandson ron myerson watches with pride. >> what's chicago? >> best hot dog city in the world. >> reporter: and this is the heart of it? >> this is a heart of it, yes. >> reporter: customers have memories, too how long have you been coming here? >> over 60 years. >> reporter: you're kidding me >> no, i'm not. >> this neighborhood is an institution. i work right around the corner and places like this are certainly cherished. >> reporter: because the love is slathered on right along with the mustard. >> lawndale has been so loyal and so faithful to this business. >> reporter: biting into a dave's red ho

joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news chief washington correspondent andra mitchell, eugene robinson, amna nawaz, and anthony continetti of the american enterprise institute. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. every new administration enters office with an agenda of optimism. for president biden, the plan was that covid would be defeated, the economy would fully recover, and he would be able to deliver a return to normalcy, but plans have a way of going sideways. a year into mr. biden's presidency, unemployment is down, wages are up, but inflation is also up to a 40-year high. build back better is stuck at neutral. most important, though vaccines are available and effective, delta and omicron have dealt a one-two punch to the economy, the supply chain, and that promised return to normalcy. and on thursday the supreme court blocked mr. biden's vaccine or test mandate for large businesses, perhaps taking away the la

>> reporter: officer eugene goodman led the mob away from the senate chamber where pence was located after finding him. lawmakers like senator mitt romney ran from the advancing crowd. others inside the house chamber took cover, the doors barricaded, police officers' guns drawn. the day's first fatality came when insurrectionists tried to break through the speaker's lo lobby. rioter ashli babbitt was shot by an officer and died from her wounds. outside, our cnn team was moving to the north side of the capitol when we were attacked. >> fuck cnn! get out! >> reporter: we tried to get out as quickly as possible. >> who are you with? >> there's more of us than you! there's more of us than you! >> reporter: we were physically unharmed, others not as lucky. when rioters poured into a tunnel blocked by police, they sprayed officers with pepper spray before dragging out a d.c. police officer, tasing him and beating him with a flagpole. >> they were screaming out, "kill him with his own gun." i remember yelling out that itch kids. >> reporter: officer daniel hodges was pinned down from a crus

have to vote on rules changes that aren't going anywhere anyway. >> that leads us to the question, eugene, how do you see this vote on the filibuster playing out? could there be more democrats besides manchin and sinema who say huh-uh? >> they always have been kind of senators who use the joe manchin and kyrsten sinema as kind of let them take the hits while they sit back and have some of the same ideas. i think when there was the vote on the $15 minimum wage, and we saw all these other senators who voted against that who hadn't been outspoken as joe manchin had been. i think it's very possible that we may see this, like ali said, all of those folks who are front line democrats who possibly will see the voters in november and have these difficult votes, if it's not going anywhere, what is the political benefit, right? so that is something that they're weighing and those conversations are happening. it's d.c., it's capitol hill, a lot can happen and with kyrsten sinema and joe manchin willing to take the hits, do they say i'll just say yes and hope that the the democratic voters in my stat

. >> we got jonathan lemire with us and eugene daniels with us. house minority leader says he will not cooperate with the january 6th committee after the panel requested an interview with the california lawmaker. the committee is seeking details of mccarthy's communications with donald trump. mccarthy's refusal comes despite his agreeing last may to cooperate with an investigation with the riot. >> would you be willing to testify about your conversation with donald trump on january 6th if you were asked by an outside commission? >> sure, next question. >> so he said he would and the request letter committee chair thompson says the panel had text messages from multiple witnesses indicating after the attack, mccarthy may discussed the possibility of impeachment of trump or removal of office under the 25th amendment and even the option of immediate resignation in refusing to cooperate, the only objective is to attempt to damage its political opponents. the panel likely weighed whether to subpoena his testimony. the vice president chairwoman suggested

joining me for inside analysis are nbc news correspondent carol lee, eugene scott of the "washington post," democratic senator claire mccaskill, and stephen hayes. founder of the dispatch. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: the longest running show in television history. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> and a good sunday morning. just last week we said president biden was in desperate need of a reset, his polling numbers falling in particular among african americans and there's real fear that his midterm momentum will be sunk, from the lack of enthusiasm by the very voters who put him into office. just like that, mr. biden was thrown a lifeline with the news that justice stephen breyer would retire at the end of his term. president biden would be assigning a black woman on the appointing a black woman to the first court opening he had, that could help with declining support. serving as a reminder that elections have consequences and they matter. and getting a supreme court nominee a win would give mr. biden a win against the political disappointments

>> back to you on something that is rather extraordinary, right, which is officer eugene goodman who became very well known, right, that video that we showed a second ago, i think we have more footage, feels like everybody saw, right, a face of bravery, he was honored by so many people but he has stayed silent more than a year and hasn't spoken publicly until now and shows up on this podcast. why did he decide now is the moment where he would share more about what happened that day? >> hallie, it's not clear there was anything deliberate about the timing of the podcast. what is clear is that officer goodman felt comfortable with the host of this podcast called "three brothers no --" one of whom is apparently a personal friend of goodman's, and he has turned down media requests over the last year because he doesn't want the negativity that comes with the fame and renowned. officer goodman is famous for the video you mentioned of him luring, you see it on the screen, luring those rioters away from the senate floor. it's chilling to imagine what would have happened if they had walked in

at the wheel eugene allen who is two days away from his class a commercial driving test. >> i was looking for a new journey in life, a new way to provide for my family. >> reporter: ask him why he is here. >> trucker shortage. we need a lot of truckers. truckers provide everything for these stores. as far as grocery stores, or anything, all the necessities. >> reporter: like many other parts of the economy, truck driving has been hit by the great resignation just as demand for freight hits an all-time high. this has been driving up driver pay now rising five times faster than its historical average. >> actually this place here we're getting a lot of students. >> reporter: and starting next month commercial licenses will require exactly this kind of entry level training course. until now you just had to go in and pass the test. >> you know, these companies looking for new drivers, drivers coming out of schools, they should be willing to give a higher pay rate. >> hourly rate we're looking at least from 35 to 240 bucks an least from 35 to 40 bucks an hour. people are making literally over a

also founding director of the national center for disaster preparedness at columbia university and eugene daniels. randi, how are teachers doing right now? >> you know, people are afraid. and spent. and really anxious, but they're showing up in schools. i was in a school in washington, d.c. this morning and with -- addison and teachers are some of the most, teachers are nurses and doctors and dr. redliner was with us yesterday on a town hall. they're some of the most amazing people in life. but they're anxious and you know, when they hear an fda commissioner saying you're all going to get covid, you know, that throws a lot of fear in people, but the key is, and this is what teachers want and this is why we welcome what you know the biden administration announced today, is that we want to make sure that as we're doing our jobs to help kids learn, recover, create some normalcy in people's lives, that our kids and our educators are as protected as they can be and that's why the testing, the well fitting masks, and we keep going back to please, please, please vaccinate, boost so that god forb