moderator: mr. harrison? mr. harrison: i believe she does. men have rights to control their bodies and women should have equal rights to control their bodies as well. at the end of the day this is a hard issue. i believe it is between a woman, her doctor and her god. politician should not be anywhere in it. we need to make sure that abortions should be rare. we should look at how we expand adoptions. how we have contraception and educate our kids. but at the same time we should be safe. if it is the law of the land which is at this time. what we need to do is look at health care. and particularly health care for women. here in south carolina we have some of the highest infant mortality rates in the country. two years ago here in south carolina 14 of our 46 counties had no, zero obgyn. many of our hospitals and some of our world committees are closing now. -- many hospitals in some of our rural communities are closing. what are we going to do do tackle disparities in health care that women and minority women in pa

mr. harrison, you want that. mr. harrison: thank you, judy, and i want to thank everyone here on the campus of allen university. while i breathe, i hope, that is the motto of this great state, south carolina. but it might as well be the theme of my entire life. i am the son of a team mom. i was raised by grandparents, with a fourth grade and eighth grade education. i went to yale, i went to georgetown law school. i worked on capitol hill be right i worked for the private sector. now i'm a candidate for united states senate. excuse me if i pinch myself. i have lived the american dream and spent my entire life fighting for others to make sure they do the same. we have been divided for too long. too many folks here in south carolina lack the opportunity to live the american dream themselves. tonight, you will probably hear from lindsey graham and he will scare you to vote for him. i hope tonight to inspire you to support me. >> thank you, sir. senator graham, you have one minute. sen. graham: you have nothing to be afra

mr. harrison, we begin with your opening statement. mr. harrison: thank you for having me. it's good to see you and thank you, south korea. our motto for this rate state is while i breathe, i hope. that might as well be the theme of my life. i grew up in a mobile home. my parents a fourth grade and eighth grade education. hard able to because of work go on to yale and georgetown. i went to capitol hill and worked for congressman jim clyburn. i worked in the private sector, and now i am running for the united states senate. that only happens in america. that is why this country is so great. in that time, we had senator lindsey graham, who i respected and admired because he could rise above the political fray. the problem is, my friends, senator graham has changed. that is not the senator graham of today. we need a senator who can bring us all together, who can unite this state, regardless if you ,re a democrat, republican progressive or conservative, we need to fight for what is in the best interest of this state. sen. graham: thank you for giving me the opportunity to repre

about judges and mr. harrison. he uploaded me along with every liberal when i voted for sotomayor and kagan, the only member of the publican senate judiciary committee to do so. it you not to be this way. senator thurman voted for justice ginsburg. she was qualified. senator holland voted for justice scalia, one of the conservative justices in history, a great man. senator holland said he was qualified. i felt the same characteristics in sotomayor and kagan. mr. harrison, when it was his turn to speak up, he said, bring out the kites, encouraging the filibuster of gorsuch, the first partisan filibuster in the history of the senate led by senator schumer, who has been the worst advocate when it comes for judges. when it came to kavanaugh, who i have known for 20 years, mr. harrison cheered on the destruction of this good man. he has said publicly, one of the main reasons he got into the race was because of the way i behaved. one of the main reasons i'm going to get reelected is because i stood up for justice kavanau

mr. harrison: me, i'm pro-choice. at the end of the day, i believe the issue of abortion is a hard issue. a painful one to talk about. at the end of the day i think it between a woman, her doctor, god. politicians don't have a role in that. we can have a role in making sure we address some of these issues that are impacting women and the health of their babies. the infant mortality rate in south carolina is in the top 10. i stated earlier that 14 of our counties had no ob/gyn. we have a senator who is proposing a health care -- >> thank you very much. >> we want to give you the promised one minute for a closing statement. mr. harrison: well, thank you all for doing this again. i wish you and your families health. to all the viewers here today. listen, in the end of the campaign, as i've been saying, i've lived the american dream. i grew up in a mobile home and i'm now running for united states senate. that only happens in america. our state motto is my life. it's the motto of my life. what i want in this campaign, wha

the graham campaign responded, mr. harrison is demanding more from special treatment. if mr. harrison is not able to interact with south carolinians on the same terms that they live their lives, he should not be there senator. because of this impasse we have change the format for this form tonight. at the top of the hour, mr. harrison joined us for a half an hour of uninterrupted questions from our panel. now senator graham will face that same panel with equal time. w spa and next our media have taken steps to provide a safe environment tonight. the environment has been sanitized in the candidates in our panel are separated at a safe distance. now let's meet that panel, debbie cbd from charleston anchor carolyn murray and w spa anchor gordon. gordon blasi first question very >> good evening saturday thank you for being here. starting on monday, you will chair a committee to confirm amo new supreme court justice. he will be inside a hearing room for hours at a time, several days of the week with some of america's top elected leadershi leadership. isin it not appropriate for yo

mr. harrison had a chance to weigh in and be bipartisan. our next subject is civil unrest in this country. social change has come about when women and racial minorities have protested. some of that has resulted in writing. nobody supported lawlessness. you said you support black lives matter. have you met with members of that organization? pastorsham: i met with and people in the african-american community. two young people of color, this is a great state. one thing i can say without any can be an african-american and go to the senate. you just have to add the values of our state. nikki haley is the daughter of indian immigrants. she became governor. the reason i will win this race is because of my conservative philosophy. i am in line with tim scott and nikki haley. our opponent is going to lose, not because of race, but because he is so liberal. count me in for reforming the police. i voted for the first step act. president trump led the way. they can go back to their families. they can get a job. 31% of our state is african-american. at

harrison incurs a filibuster the first partisan in the history of the united states he chewed on the destruction of brett kavanaugh amy coney barrett is highly qualified the president has every right to do this if you are counting on mr. harrison ever vote for a conservative judge are making a mistake you can count on me for conservativea judges. >> you have that race in the republican category did this debate make a difference? >> i think it did it is the first chance the voters got to see the two men up against each other and another interesting note you may have seen on the video that jamie harrison brought his own plexiglas screen because lindsey graham had met with senators that had tested positive recently. he tested negative but even if you have been exposed to someone with the virus you are recommended to quarantine. and then to take extra these are the same we now see in the vice presidential debate on wednesda wednesday. jamie harrison has an inspiring story coming from poverty from south carolina and orangeburg going to yale and raised by a single teen mother and his grand

since he was not doing that, mr. harrison wanted to take extra precautions. these are the same precautions we will now see in the vice presidential debate happening wednesday. just --rrison is really has really caught fire down there. he has a really inspiring story. he came from poverty and one of the poorest cities in south carolina. and of going to yale and georgetown. raised by a single teen mother and his grandparents. he has been airing ads since spring and has not gone down. --this point, he is spending i think last week, he was over $7 million on tv ads. lindsey graham has clearly seen this because last week, he was going on fox news really begging for money. harrison, you kind of saw in that clip that he has hitting him for switching his positions. i think lindsey graham is one of the most fascinating politicians out there because as you may remember, he had this very short-lived run for the presidency in 2016. he called president trump a race baiting xenophobic religious bigot. now, he is one of his closest allies. he has undergone a major evolution

since he was doing that mr. harrison wanted to take extra precautions to see in the vice presidential debate happening on wednesday. and you know jamie harrison caught fire down there. he's a really inspiring story, came from poverty and one of the, you know, poorest cities in south carolina, orangeburg ended going to yale and georgetown was, you know, raised by a single teen mother and his grandparents and he's, you know, he's been airing ads since spring really and hasn't gone down, and at this pongt you know he's spending just, you know, what i think last week he was over 7 million dollars on tv ads he's been one of the biggest fundraisers for democrats you know and lindsey graham has clearly seen this because last week he was sort of going on fox news really begging for money. and harrison you saw in that clep he's hitting for sort of switching his positions. i think lindsay gram is one of the most fascinating politicians out thereef this sort of very short-lived run for the presidency in 2016 he called pres

mr. harrison, do you have a quick second to talk about the debate? how it went? >> reporter: at the debate, harrison attacked graham over his repeated promises in 2016 and 2018 not to advance a supreme court pick in a presidential election year. >> could use my words against me. >> you took an oath to serve and that's what you have done. now, just be a man of it and stand up and say, you know what, i changed my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy barrett will be a buffer to liberalism. if you want conservative judges, i'm your only bet in this race. >> reporter: yet, it's that kind of shift that may cost graham this voter in myrtle beach. >> kind of liked him, until he flip flopped on the supreme court thing. and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: but graham thinks most voters will ultimately reward him in his quest to keep the court and the senate conservative. >> not at all. i think people can trust me to be fair. >> and don, in my interview, i asked whether he had any concerns over the president's handling of the coronav

. >> joining me now is senate candidate jaime harrison. mr. harrison, my phone was ringing off the hook after the senator said this. your reaction to what he said. >> well, reverend al, as you know, i've been talking about this on the campaign trail a lot. i'm about building a new south, one that is bold, that is inclusive, that is diverse. one where here in south carolina we deserve to have a senator who is going to represent all of us, regardless if we're democrats or republicans, conservatives or liberals. and it's just sad to hear that type of language coming from senator graham. but it's something that i expect, because lindsey graham has changed. he is not the same lindsey graham that we all used to know. so the folks in south carolina are hungry for some new type of leadership as well. that's why he is in the race of his life, and we're about to send him home. >> now, mr. harrison, you have said that you would debate the senator again. he asked joe scarborough earlier on this show said, he has refused to take a covid-19 test in order to

. >> mr. clyburn, you have a very competitive senate race in your senate. your former aide, jamie harrison a running against lindsey graham, someone you served with for 20-something years, can you give us your back of the napkin. has everybody, as the watchers know today, you know that state better than everybody. what is going on and is lindsey graham going to be knocked off? . welcome, you know, i'm so proud of jamie. as many people know, jamie came into my life as a 11th grader, there at high school. and i have not been able to get rid of him since. he's just a remarkable young man. he's run just a class act in this campaign and jamie, during that debate last saturday night, i think the rest of the country got to see what i have seen in jamie since he was a teenager. he is running a campaign that i think is going to be successful. not a single soul alive when he announced for the senate that he would be sitting here 30 days out, 48-48 and i've seen a poll that has him two points in the lead although i've seen in-- polls that have him one point behind. ja

senator: this is a big-choice election between me and mr. harrison, capitalism versus socialism, conservative judges versus liberal judges. law and order versus chaos. alex: harris' campaign set up a plexiglass barrier for separation of recent outbreaks, called out graham and republicans for failing to take the pandemic seriously. >> tonight i am taking this seriously and that's why i put the plexy glass up. it's not just about me but the people in my life that i have to take care of as well. my two boys, my wife, my grandmother. we need to address the issue here in south carolina. alex: the candidates will have two more debates again early voting start tomorrow, so a lot of races to watch, trace. trace: alex hogan live for us this afternoon, alex, thank you. well, we just heard from a doctor on the news the president could be discharged from the hospital as soon as tomorrow if his condition continues to improve. up next we will hear from the white house itself as communication's director lisa farrah joins us live. joe biden promising transp

mr. harrison, good to have you back so far. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> one of your mentors, congressman jim clyburn just told my colleague stephanie ruhle that you have a chance to win this thing but it's an outside chance. it all depends on turnout. do you share that assessment? >> it's turnout, turnout, turnout. it's getting people to the polls. this is a margin-of-error race right now, craig, all contingent on turnout. i feel good about where we are. i think the energy is on our side. you look at my rallies and you compare them to lindsey graham's rallies. graham's rallies, you've probably got enough folks to fill a phone booth. the one we had with common, we had over 1,000 people, 350 cars there. people are excited. they're excited because hope is coming back to south carolina. we're excited because we think we're going to bring in and usher in a whole new south here in south carolina. >> previously canceled debate between you and the senator has been rescheduled for friday night, i believe. what's go

since he was not doing that, mr. harrison wanted to take extra precautions. these are the same precautions we will now see in the vice presidential debate happening wednesday. just --rrison is really has really caught fire down there. he has a really inspiring story. he came from poverty and one of the poorest cities in south carolina. and of going to yale and georgetown. raised by a single teen mother and his grandparents. he has been airing ads since spring and has not gone down. --this point, he is spending i think last week, he was over $7 million on tv ads. lindsey graham has clearly seen this because last week, he was going on fox news really begging for money. harrison, you kind of saw in that clip that he has hitting him for switching his positions. i think lindsey graham is one of the most fascinating politicians out there because as you may remember, he had this very short-lived run for the presidency in 2016. he called president trump a race baiting xenophobic religious bigot. now, he is one of his closest allies. he has undergone a major evolution

mr. harrison, do you have a quick minute to talk before the debate? we've been trying to talk to you for your campaign, not responding to our questions. do you have a quick second to talk about the debate? how it went? any questions with cnn, will you take them? >> reporter: harrison attacked graham over repeated promises in 2016 and 2018, not to advance the supreme court pick in a presidential election year. >> could use my words against me. >> you took an oath to serve and that's what you've done. now just be a man of it and stand up to say, i change my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy barrett will be a buffer to liberalism. if you want conservative judges, i'm your only bet in this race. >> reporter: yet, it's that kind of shift that may cost graham this vote in myrtle beach. >> kind of liked him until he flip-flopped on the supreme court thing. and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: graham thinks most voters will ultimately reward him in his quest to keep the court and the senate conservative. >> worried

mr. harrison, do you have a quick second to talk about the debate? any questions for cnn? >> reporter: after the debate, harrison attacked graham over his repeated propss in 2016 and 2018 not to advance a supreme court pick during an election years. >> you can use my words against me. >> you have taken an oath. stand. and say, i changed my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy coney barrett will be a buffer to liberalism. if you want conservative judges, i'm your only bet in this race. >> reporter: that shift may cost this voter in myrtle beach. >> i kind of liked him until he flip-flopped on the supreme court thing. and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: but graham thinks most voters will reward him in his quest to keep the court and the senate conservative. do you worry voters may have lost trust in you? >> no. i think they can trust me to be fair. >> reporter: during my interview, i asked him if he had any concerns about the president's handling of coronavirus, if the president should not have downplayed the virus? graham said the p

play well in south carolina. >> this is a big election between me and mr. harrison, capitalism versus socialism, conservative judges versus liberal judges. >> experts say graham leading the confirmation process plays well with republican base so harrison isn't directly attacking that, he's saying graham isn't a man of his word on the issue of confirming a supreme court nominee in an election year. as for graham's close relationship with president trump, one south carolina analyst says there could be coattails but it's not going to be easy. >> a very capable and well-funded democratic opponent. the harrison campaign has been very professionally run. >> typically the fight is during the republican primary but not this cycle and a graham loss would go a long way toward democrats pushed to be in the majority and be a huge prize for the progressive left. >> bret: thanks. about 50,000 voters in franklin county ohio have reportedly received inaccurate absentee ballots. election officials there say replacement ballots will be mailed out within 72 hours. a federal j

this is not about mr. harrison. this is about liberals hating my guts because i stood up for kavanaugh when they tried to destroy his life. this is about me helping donald trump. >> graham and harrison were due to square off in another debate tonight but they have been bickering over graham getting a covid december. now sounds like they're going to do separate interviews instead. mike? >> dana: bruce, you follow this closely. which party runs the senate in the next four years or two years is really important. where do you see the state of the senate races right now? >> well, it's good to be back with you, dana. we knew it would be a hard year for republicans. this is the class of 2014 after all who succeeded and came to office in many respects in barack obama's sixth year when republicans rode a wave. they're feeling the weight of the top of the ticket right now. ticket splitting didn't happen at all in 2016. it's happening less and less frequently. you take a look at states like iowa and north carolina and arizona

lindsay has been on the attack pointing out that mr. harrison has been a lobbyist and emphasizing his role in bringing back conservative judges and standing up for the interests of south carolina and i think at the end of the day in a state that donald trump will easily carry, lindsay is probably going to be there howbeit not with as big a margin as he's been used you in his previous races. >> dana: always good to have you, thank you so much. next, a standoff over stimulus relief. nancy pelosi says the clock is ticking at the white house. trey gowdy reacts. ewday, veterans can shortcut the refinance process and save $250 a month. $3000 dollars a year. with the va streamline refi at newday, there's no appraisal, no income verification, and no out of pocket costs. one call can save you $3000 a year. >> early voting now underway in florida. it is a state that many consider a must-win for president trump and voters in florida join a long line of others who have cast their ballots nationwide. more than 29 million and counting. mort live in m

mr. harrison, good luck to you. a few weeks to go. it's a very important race. >> thank you, stephanie. take care. >>> we've got breaking news to share. just moments ago, before boarding a flight for a campaign stop in arizona, vice president joe biden responded to the news that president trump says he will not participate in a virtual debate. >> we dont know what the president is going to do. he changes his mind every second. so for me to comment on that now would be irresponsible. i think that i'm going to follow the commission's recommendations. if he goes off and is going to have a rally, i'll -- i don't know what i'll do. >> joining us to discuss, senator bernie sanders. senator, we have a lot to cover. we've got to get to that breaking news. your reaction to president trump now refusing to participate in a virtual debate saying it's a waste of his time. >> stephanie, that was 12 seconds ago, right? he may have changed his mind by then. i mean, i empathize with biden. you don't know what trump is going to do. he lies all of the t

court justice during an election year. >> mr. harrison -- >> you know, sometimes listening to senator graham is like, it reminds me of playing monopoly with my son. you change the rules -- he changes the rules every time he gets. you know, senator, you said, "use my words against me," and you said it after the kavanaugh meetings, not before the kavanaugh hearings, after the kavanaugh hearings. and your words, your promise was that no judicial nominee should be considered or approved or what have you in the last year of an election. my grandfather always taught me, he said, jamie, a man is only as good as his word. well, senator, how good is your word when you made a promise to the american people? even more, you made a promise to the folks in south carolina that you wouldn't be doing what you're doing right now! >> and joining me now is nbc news correspondent leigh ann caldwell, who is down in south carolina covering this race. leigh ann, i'm fascinated by this particular contest, in part because, you know, you and i, i know, hav

mr. harrison, manu raju at cnn. do you have a quick minute to talk before the debate? we've been trying to talk to you for this -- your campaign hasn't been responding to our questions. do you have a quick second to talk about the debate, how it went? any questions from cnn. will you take them? at the debate harrison attacked graham over his repeated promises in 2016 and 2018 not to advance a supreme court pick in a presidential election year. >> you can use my words against me. >> just be a man of it and stand up and say i changed my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy coney barrett will be a buffer. >> reporter: yet it's that kind of shift that may cost graham this voter in myrtle beach. >> i kind of liked him until he flip-flopped on the supreme court thing, and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: but graham thinks most voters will ultimately reward him in his quest to keep the court and senate conservative. are you worried voters may have lost trust in you? >> not at all. i think voters can trust me to be fair. >> thanks to ma

mr. harrison is the former chairman of the south carolina democratic party. jamie, good to see you again. i think it must be five or six weeks ago you and i were talking. it's still a pretty uphill battle for you, it still is, but you've raised a lot of money and your opponent is calling for an investigation into where all of this money is coming from. so save him the trouble, jamie, tell us, where's all the money coming from? >> it's coming from the people, ali. it's good seeing you. listen, it's the grandmas, the grandpas, the aunts, the uncles, who are just tired of lindsey graham playing washington political games. and they're ready for somebody to bring hope back to communities in south carolina and across the country. listen, lindsey graham is a rubber stamp. you see the urgency that he had this week to get a supreme court justice in. but he hasn't had that same type of urgency to pass another covid relief bill. in south carolina, 750,000 people have lost their jobs, 400,000 have lost their health care. 3,500 have lost their lives. and i wish that our s

mr. harrison encouraged the filibuster of judge gorsuch. the first in the history of the united states senate. he cheered on the destruction of brett kavanaugh. all i can say is that amy barrett is highly qualified. i'm chairman of the judiciary committee. the president has every right to do this. >> of course, covid was also a big topic of the debate, especially with the president's diagnosis. with all the people who are testing positive in washington and recent days, something that jaime harrison did is he brought his own plexiglass divider to protect himself from the senator for some extra protection, but alex, this race is in the final stretch and it is tighter than anyone ever thought it would be. >> thanks for the update. appreciate that. >>> new polling shows one particular group pulling ahead for joe biden. how it could shake up the race in a key swing state. biden. how it could shake up the race in a key swing state pepto bismol coats and soothes your stomach for fast relief and now, get the same fast relief in a delightful chew wi

harrison. president trump has done more in his first term in anybody since ronald reagan. [applause] the man i am going to introduce in a minute has just been by his side every step of the way. did you see the debate with the vice president? [applause] i don't think i've ever been more proud. i've known mike pence for a long time. i knew him when he was in the house, and i'm going to introduce him in a second, but i want to let you know what the country knows, that this is the biggest choice election in your lifetime. it is the difference between conservative judges and liberal judges. it is the difference between nine judges and god knows how many more. the people in charge of the democratic party are crazy. radicallyangerously, hyped up on something. and they are going to take your country and my country and make it so we don't even recognize it anymore. the only thing between that happening is you. [applause] so everything is on the ballot, liberal judges versus conservative judges, secure orders versus open borders. this idea of decriminalizing coming into the country

harrison's coffers? >> they hate me. this is not about mr. harrelson. this is about liberals hating my guts when i stood up for kavanaugh when they tried to destroy his life. this is me trying to help mr. trump. the only good republican is the one that tries to undercut mr. trump. >> can you talk about what he's saying and why that doesn't make any sense simply because just by default he is the long-standing senator from south carolina and he has name recognition and he shouldn't have to be clawing his way from behind. talk about it. >> that's exactly right. lindsey graham is the senior senator from south carolina, he's the chairman of the judiciary committee, he's been in washington for 25 years. when he was outraising me at the beginning of this campaign he was crowing about t sending out press releases, historical moments. the moment in which more people have decided that lindsey was a part of our past and i'm part of the future and started giving us contributions, you know, he has a problem. i'm going to demonstrate something to lindsey, you can do

. >> this is election between me and mr. harrison, capitalism versus socialism, conservative judges versus liberal judges, law and order versus chaos. >> democratic amy harrison has been pushing graham to take a covid test before the debate tweeting i'm excited for the debate with lindsey graham but we need real leadership in this pandemic, the debate moderator and i have agreed to take a covid test prior to debating, i schedule my testing calling on senator graham to do the same. graham fired back that he will be there and tweeted i will take medical direction from actual physicians, not my political opponents. harrison is attacking graham for changing his position on filling the supreme court c. >> i was sometimes listening to senator graham and it reminds me of playing monopoly with my son, he changes the rules every times he gets. you said use my words against me and you said after the kavanaugh meeting, not the kavanaugh, after the kavanaugh hearings, in your words and your promise that no judicial nominee should be con

he's being mr. relevant in washington, d.c. i just want to be mr. relevant in south carolina. that means i'm addressing the issues that people care about. >> u.s. senate candidate jaime harrison, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. of course we have reached out the senator lindsey graham's campaign to schedule an appearance, but we haven't heard back yet. >>> coming up, "new york times" reporter mark leibovich takes on the fifth avenue theory with a new piece entitled, trump called his supporters disgusting. do they care? he'll join us next. disgusting. do they care he'll join us next how will we do it, at a time like this? we've been asked that before. and through pandemics, and depressions, wars that split a nation, and fractured the world. americans have always found a way to vote and make their voices heard. so stand with the national council on election integrity and help make sure every vote is counted. no matter who you vote for, or how. because while this election may feel different, we all call america home. ithe first full prescriptionis pstrength

squeeze and erase icky messes in microwaves and on stovetops for an amazing clean, get the power of mr. clean magic eraser in disposable sheets. >>> south carolina has set a record for early voting this year, and today jaime harrison, democratic candidate for senate running against lindsey graham voted early in person. the senate confirmation hearing for donald trump's nominee for the supreme court seems to have helped senator graham. he got three days of wall-to-wall cable tv coverage on his role as chairman of the committee conducting those hearings and the latest the "new york times" poll taken during the hearings, shows lindsey graham at 46 to jaime harrison's 40. that's a very bad polling for an ibt senate. the general rule is they are in great danger if they poll below 50%. before the confirmation hearings began, lindsey graham said this while campaigning in south carolina. >> if you're a young african-american, an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this state. you just need to be conservative, not liberal. >> joining us now is jaime harrison, the democrat being candidate for sena