. >> phil, i don't want to turn this into meet dr. phil, but between keith she willer and hope hicks, i keep thinking about this as well. those are two comfort level people in the first year of this white house. keith shiller, of course, chef security for donald trump in new york, very easy relationship. navy veteran, former new york police officer. hope hicks was with this campaign from its embryonic first hours. they're both out of the president's life now. and again, because that immediate atmosphere around him looms so large and seems so important, it's those two vacancies i think about a lot. >> you're right to think about them that way. they were really the souvenirs from the campaign. the tchoskies who sat outside the oval office to remind trump this used to be fun, winning the campaign was fun. dispatching the republican rivals, dispatching hillary clinton. he had a lot of fun doing that and they could remind him of that, was it mascots to him. they were useful to white house staff, that the president really wouldn't listen to

try not to veer into the he/she dr. phil guardrail, but is it possible this president's happiness comes a result of enough rage to cause an outburst and ergo the aftereffect? >> it depends who you're talking to. people i'm speaking to who are close to the white house take this as a good sign that he is feeling more confident. would you have thought that he would have felt this when he was coming in, becoming the president of the united states. this is a man who didn't think he was going to be president. he didn't think he would win so he wasn't sort of prepared for that but he's feeling better about it, he's felling like he knows what he's doing and people close to the white house and close to him are pretty happy about it. this is the president they thought he would be, he's taking sort of control of things. you mentioned the firing of rex tillerson, that's the thing that i keep hearing over and over, that he's kind of cleaned house into the white house and he's venturing out into the cabinet secretaries. if you talk t