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. >> dickerson: ud would like it to be. >> i would certainly like it to allow that. >> dickerson: why do you think we don't have waterboarding -- >> i think we have become very weak and ineffective that's why not we're in the beating isis. >> dickerson: you think people got rid of the law to be weak? >> no. i think that we are weak. i think we're weak. we cannot beat eyes. we should beat isis very quickly. general at that time ton would have had them down. we are playing by a different set of rules. we are -- let me just put it differently. when isis people chop off the heads go back to their homes and they talk, and they hear we're talking about waterboarding like it's the worst thing they just drowned a hundred people and chopped off 50 heads, they must think we are a little bit on the weak side. >> dickerson: the reason that waterboarding was -- number of reasons but one was because worry was that if america does that then our soldiers, american hostages will be treated even worse that's the argument, what >> killing ourselves when they capture them. they're doing that anyway. if t