mr. jones. mr. jones: thank you. general campbell, thank you and your staff for being here today. i'm going to take a different approach. i looked at your narrative and the comment by senator levin, who is now retired and said, i cite these public opinion polls americans, 65%, 70% think we haven't received anything and he's critical of the people that don't think we've achieved anything by saying at the end of it and people that are 7,000 miles away think we haven't. well i would say to the senator it's those people back home that are paying the bills. they need to get something out of the tax dollars that they're paying. when we went into afghanistan in 2001, the debt of our nation was $5.95 trillion. today it is other $1 trillion in debt. -- it is over $18 trillion in debt. you know from your brothers and sisters in the military what we're faced with with budgets. all right. then, i read in a blog yesterday from someday jason ditz, between casualties and desertion, the afghan military is shrinking fast. the desertion problem is a long standing one, with many afghans signing up i