joining me now, carmen lima, and jennifer martinez, a 16-year-old student whose parents are undocumented. she is an activist for "one america." carmen i wanted to ask you what your response or reaction was to seeing john boehner say to you he is trying to get it done. and then a few hours later go tell the press, absolutely no way, basically over my dead body. >> well, here is the thing, i told boehner my story hoping that maybe it would touch him. maybe he would like change his mind a little, maybe not completely drop to his knees and say yes, i'm going to go do it right now. but i hoped he would be honest with me. and now i feel betrayed. i feel like he lied to me. i felt like my story meant nothing to him. which is terrible. >> jennifer, you tried -- you and carmen were sort of trying to cross this empathetic gap, trying to let john boehner know what it is like to live in the uncertainty that so many of our fellow americans live in. do you think there is any way of getting it true to politicians? >> i think it is possible. at the end of the day they are human, to some extent. so i mea