somebody told me he was born in canada. that's his thing. >> that's really his thing. >> that is what you do when you don't know what to say. it's the first time i've seen him befuddled. what do you say? kids when you're grown, you play tag, you got me. he doesn't say you got me. >> because he's caught. remember part of that conversation was also a conversation about his birther accusations against the president. and we might all think that that's you know done with and we're not talking about it anymore but it's still happening there. people going to town hall meetings around the country saying. >> wayne, jonathan and i think may agree on this. i want to get to you on this from texas. it seems there's a very interesting compelling continuing effort to delegitimize this president. people on the right say he's a disaster which he's not, look what he's already accomplished and getting the bad guys. but they first referred to him not as the president of the united states but as a liberal leader. they refer to the health care a

nothing against canada, but i'm an american by birth. as a u.s. senator, i believe i should be only an american. cruz released his birth certificate this week, verifying previous claims that he's american because his mother is american, although his father is cuban. joining me live, mark murray. mark, this reads quite simply. ted cruz said he did not know he had dual citizenship until it was pointed out. but you have some old favorites like donald trump, names that got a lot of sicirculation, who are saying this may not be good enough. >> tamron, first of all, it's worth noting that if you thought that ted cruz wasn't thinking about 2016, well, think again. how quickly this escalated where he didn't know he had dual citizenship then puts out a statement showing he wants to renounce it shows he's thinking about a higher office. yes, this could be something that potentially ends up plaguing ted cruz if he makes a presidential bid and people try to tie him to canada and being born in calgary. of course, this is just what happens in presidential polit

>> born in canada, perhaps not. i'm not sure where he was born. >> definitely born in canada. >> okay. you'll have to ask him that question. but perhaps not. >> joining me today, managing editor of the grio.com and msnbc contributor joy reed and insider josh barrow. gentleman and lady. joy, donald trump is not yet done talking about birtherism and birther con speerspiracieco. even inside his own party, the chickens come home. >> and could roost, actually. obviously, ted cruz is not black. the birther thing doesn't apply. case closed. >> the thing is, josh, i mean, folk, trying to draw a line between the president, present president obama refusing to release his birth certificate and ted cruz' disavow of birth place and release of his birth certificate. in "the washington post," questioning about cruz' eligibility have everything to do with the question of the law. the obama question, the underlying facts. conspiracy theories about whether the president was actually born in the united states. >> no. that's right. thi

and also there are certain parts of canada i -- no. you don't want to -- thunder bay is nice, but you really don't want to be a citizen of canada living in thunder bay or remote stretches of nova scotia and newfoundland. >> so about texas and your little feud, you've got a feud going here with rick perry. which i think is a combination of your attitude toward texas and what rick perry doesn't know about new york. which would you most like to instruct him on? feel free to go in any direction you want. >> i would just like -- well, actually, i'd just like to instruct him on -- i think if he's got this time off from governor, maybe to kind of go back to just -- it's not even new york. just go back to college and start over and take really another four years and let's look at the world again, rick, and this time try to memorize some stuff and pay attention in class and things like that. i mean, the fact that -- he may run for president again. if that happens, i -- i mean, as a comedian i'm thrilled. but as a citizen i weep. >> now, speakin

and so does canada, but there are places within the u.s. that have mobility rates that are quite comparable to these countries. so i think the fact that there's such variation within the u.s. potentially provides a lens into why there are these differences across countries. so if i would offer hypothesis, it would come back to early education or school quality more generally, things related to segregation or the degree of inequality. i think the key question going forward is which of these are the causal mechanisms. the hope is by using the data within the u.s. we'll get a much sharper sense of what matters. >> last word. >> i was going to say that it's long been known that where there are high concentrations of african-americans, white populations don't vote for school funding, they don't vote for public goods, they pay a very heavy price for that. and so there is a very obvious and direct reason for what raj has found, and that is that absolutely poor environment for public services, for early childhood development and equality of schools

in canada, the waiting list to see the physician of your choice can be as many as 800,000 people at one time. >> typical wait for a normal procedure in canada is four months for hip replacement, knee replacement, wait is ten months. >> reporter: some in great pain or with serious illnesses are forced to wait. >> no less than supreme court of canada in the 2005 as part of ruling said that some people in canada died as a result of being on the waiting list. >> reporter: those are some of the reasons advocates of the single payer plan have been unable to round up the votes to put it into law. shannon? >> jim angle, thank you. >>> the eurozone's longest recession ever is over. the 17 countries that use the common currency experienced a collective economic growth of three-tenths percentage point. the first rise since 2011. in this country, markets were down. the dow lost 113, s&p 500 dropped 9, nasdaq off 15. >>> the woman at the center of the irs scandal is having her personal e-mail account targeted by congress. correspondent doug mcelway on the latest trouble for lois lerner. >> reporter:

it's been a rough day for our friends in canada. it's true, despite being born in calgary, canada, senator cruise decided to turn his back on the neighbors to the north, his people and wrap himself in the american flag. but? what would cause him to leave them out in the cold. he thinks the american voters wouldn't accept someone with dual citizenship between canada and the united states as president. in his mind canadians don't have the self made can do spirit. when it comes to can do, don't forget what canada has done. they brought us the electric wheelchair, the snowblower, the pacemaker, the egg carton, insulin, alkaline battery, the garage bag, the game of basketball, that would be interesting to prove, and the bear trap, which we apparently need more of. have you seen the news? we need a president that knows about bear traps. maybe there is too much baggage associated with being canadian because after all, the luggage ticket at a hotel or airport was invited by a can canadian, too. >>> an idea that could change the way you read

born in canada. if he was born in canada, is he eligible to be president of the united states? >> if so, he's not. >> reporter: he was definitely born in canada. >> you'll have to ask him this. >> reporter: his mother was an american citizen. >> that'll be ironed out. i heard somebody told me he was born in canada. that's his thing. >> reporter: you played golf with john boehner the other day. >> i did. >> reporter: the big question is will house republicans pass a funding bill for the government that includes funding for obamacare. should they? >> well, that is a good question. i do think this, the budget should be funded. but i don't think that obamacare should be funded. and the republicans are in many ways their own worst enemy. i happen to be a republican. if they get together and were unified, i think they could do damage to get rid of obamacare chas very positive thing for the country. >> reporter: you know hillary clinton. >> i do. >> reporter: how touch ever tough will she be to beat if she's the nominee? >> she will be tough. >> reporter: what do they need to do to be

if that's true, i will denounce canadian citizenship, nothing against canada. but i am an american by birth and as a u.s. senator, i believe i should be only an american. a person born outside of the united states and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the united states who resided in the united states. when obama was asked about cruz's eligibility, trump said perhaps not. it came up this morning. >> under no circumstances will i vote for a continuing resolution that funds even one penny of obama care. >> reporter: cruz is a 2016 star already, won a conservative straw poll in denver recently, and this citizenship issue is only gaining him more attention. he has been to iowa twice in the last few weeks, will be speaking to an influential group of conservatives this friday in new hampshire. >> thank you. >>> firefighters in several western states are battling wildfires tonight. there are large fires reported from arizona north to alaska and as far east as wyoming and montana. this three alarm wildfire is tearing through government isl

canada is not foreign. because if canada is foreign then i make no sense. so i'm going to go with -- i think this may possibly be a breaking point for the whole bitterirt birtherrism thing. so watch texas, maybe it is particular to them. also watch your step, because you have to go to prison. here comes jail, three, two, one. >>> are you high? on marijuana? >> no. >> when was the last time you smoked? >> i don't know. >> what do you mean you don't know? >> i don't know. i got to try to do better. not just for me but for, like, my family. i don't want them to see me in a place like this anymore. >> i just seem to fall back into the same thing, criminal recklessness, assault with a deadly weapon, having no permit. >> how did you end up doing the armed robbery? >> walking by the liquor store. i was swearing at her, cussing at her, i told her she had a certain ou

why canada? >> i would be a logical for us to assume he would head towards mexico if he's on the run. it's so close. we're close to the border here. me may be trying to throw us off and head towards canada thinking that the canadian authorities and citizens in canada might not be looking for him in mexico. >> two people found dead in the rubble was miss anderson but another child. what can you tell us about that person in. >> we can just say it was a child. a child's remains found. we've not been able to identify the child. we don't know if the child was male or female. we're rushing dna analysis to get information if it's one of two children as soon as possible. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> reporter: very intense man hunt. they are hoping to get out as much information as possible and hope that they can bring this to a resolution, happy resolution, soon. >> it's so tragic. do we know anything more about the relationship between the suspect and the mother? >> reporter:

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born in canada to an american mother, likely a dual citizen of canada and the united states. something the senator from texas seemed shocked and upset by. late last night in a response to the story revealing the likelihood of him having dual citizenship, "i will renounce any canadian citizenship. nothing against canada, but i'm an american by birth. as a u.s. senator, i believe i should be only an american." the interest in senator cruz's citizenship comes for only one reason because the right wing of the republican party is increasingly betting on him as their presidential candidate. tonight he takes one step closer to that future, coming before the people of texas to stake his claim as the leader of the national political scene's most reactionary elements. joining me now is nbc news reporter kasie hunt live at the heritage action defund obama care town hall tour in dallas. kasie, the morning note this morning nbc news put out was talking about the stuntness of the defund obama care movement. this essentially is not going to get anywhere in congress. my question is, is this

but i don't know if there's any such statute in this part of canada. and if even if there was, you would have to show some sort of recklessness, or something that the person didn't do that an ordinary person would do. so it would be a case-by-case basis. and this is an unforeseeable circumstance. the odds of something like this are slim to none. so there's a -- you know, in my opinion, there would be a lot of defenses s as to what a defense attorney could say regarding his criminal liability. >> let's leave it at this. if you have a python, and if the python is a hundred pounds or not even, that's dangerous behavior right there and you better beware that you'll have to deal with whatever happens. i want to get you to another odd story. a 45-year-old man in washington state is suspected of killing his bomb after putting a bomb, some sort of explosive device around his neck, and then blowing the dog up. he's apparently been jailed. and help me on this one, guys, for mischief, reckless endangerment, and possession of explosive devices, but the sheriff say

i was born in canada. my mother is a u.s. citizen. she was born in wilmington, lived most of her life in the u.s. i'm a citizen by birth. those are the facts of my birth. i'll let other people worry about the legal consequences. >> as to whether cruz is eligible to run for president as we learned from a deep dive we did three months ago, most legal analysts we consulted say he is and no judge would likely entertain a case challenging cruz's eligibility until he took office because that's when somebody would have standing. once you get there, what court is going to hear it. bring in the gaggle lois ram ano and contributing writer for roll call, nathan gonzalez. want to start with defunding of the health care law. two months ago we thought about immigration. that didn't happen. then we thought, okay, probably about health care. there's been some rumblings about health care. what's interesting here is this tea party push has hit a wall. >> well, because it's doa. basically you have kifconservats practical in congress who say we can't win

and canadian citizenship because he was born in canada. he says i will renounce any canadian citizenship. i'm an american by birth and i believe i should only be an american. he released his canadian birth certificate saying he is american because his mother is american, although his dad is cuban. he addressed this on a radio show. >> i am not going to get into the legal debate. people have asked the facts of my birth. my parents had moved to calgary in the late 1960s to work in the oil business. they had gone to college in texas and i was born in canada. my mother is a u.s. citizen. she was born in wilmington and lived most of her life in canada. >>> joining me is wayne. this matters because ted cruz have run for president come 2016. does senator cruz qualify as the, quote, natural born u.s. citizen as the constitution requires in a president? >> the quick answer is probably. the scholarship on the issue indicates if you talk to legal scholars and cases settled suggest that absolutely he is eligible to run for president. the issue itself,

it's been a very rough day for our friends in canada. they thought they were cruising to the white house, but their hopes were ted on arrival. despite being born in canada, senator cruz decided to turn his back on our neighbors to the north. his people, and wrap himself in the american flag. but why? what would cause him to leave the canucks out in the cold? he wants to be president. for some reason, he thinks the american voters would never accept someone with dual citizenship between canada and the united states as president. apparently, in his mind, canadians just don't have that self-made spirit. canadians brought us the walkie-talkie, the electric wheelchair, the snow blower, the pacemaker, the egg carton, insulin, the alkaline battery, instant replay, the garbage bag, the game of basketball, and the bear trap, which we apparently immediate more of in this country if you've been watching the news? we need a president who knows about those bear traps. but maybe ted cruz is right. maybe there's too much baggage associated with being c

>> presumably yes, if they start to increase production we have a triad, canada, the united states and mexico being producers and the united states getting energy from friendly countries. i would point out americans should know chevron, exxon will have another revenue stream and will help the mexican economy. great to have a southern neighbor with a better economy and reduce illegal immigration, as well. >> this has to go through a political hurdle? >> yes. >> what are the chances this gets blocked? >> likely but difficult. you have to understand that oil in mexico is very personal to the mexican people. if you look back at what happened in 1938, mexicans piled into the streets and demanded that the socialist president nationize 17 different mostly american and british oil companies. they wanted them to do that and felt exploited. when they want the money to be paid back, and they were poor and handed in musical instrument. this is a long tradition. big psychological change for the country. >> all right. michelle thanks for coming by. >> and still ahead, we'll show you the cheap smart

outages had cascaded across ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, new york, vermont and parts of canada. parts of ontario blacked out. 50 million people without power, the largest outage in north american history. power was not fully restored for 48 hours. all because of what started with that one tree. it became a huge problem what happened with that one tree because of the shocking vulnerability of this electrical grid that we've got. which we started building in the 1800s with wires and wooden poles. ten years after that giant blackout of the whole northeast, question, of course, is, could it happen again? and the answer is maybe, but it is in fact probably less likely now. since then our country decided to try to fix it, at least we decided to spend a bunch of money trying to fix the problem. after the blackout, utility companies spent a lot to maintain what they've got per mile of line, transmission line, they've been spending nearly three times what they spent in the ten years before the blackout. the federal government also stepped up, five days before the '08 presidential electio

> when it comes to the oil we import from other nations obviously we have to look at neighbors like canada and mexico that are stable and steady and reliable sources. >> reporter: with mr. obama safely elected he is striking a driesive stone on keystone. >> they keep talking about an oil pipeline that is estimated to create about 50 permanent jobs. that is not a jobs plan. >> reporter: that followed similar comments to the "new york times" saying this might create 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipe lynn a line and then after that we are talking about 150 jobs. the state department said in the draft of the environmental impact study that including direct and indirect effects keystone would support approximately 42,100 average annual jobs over a one to two year period generating roughly $2.05 billion in earnings. >> he actually mocked the project and the jobs it would create. i don't know how he can look americans in the eye who are struggling and think there is something to joke about. >> reporter: some say the president's new line suggests he is elevating one democratic stituen

and then a judge in canada will decide. anyone giving up citizenship must proof that they are or will become a citizen of another country, not actually live in canada, and not be considered a security threat. should be able to prove those things. up next, ted cruz wants to become a leader of the republican party. but he is having trouble getting some followers. copd makes it hard to breathe... but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can help make this a great block party. ♪ [ male announcer ] advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart conditio

and then a judge in canada will decide. anyone giving up citizenship must proof that they are or will become a citizen of another country, not actually live in canada, and not be considered a security threat. should be able to prove those things. up next, ted cruz wants to become a leader of the republican party. but he is having trouble getting some followers. [ male announcer ] at his current pace, bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> the republican versus republican fight over funding and the affordable care act continues in texas, with the state's junior senator, ted cruz, leading the charge against the expansion of health care coverage in this country. >> i am publicly committed along

but in an essay published last week, canada is a very useful point of comparison for the united states because it is much like america. the percentage of foreign-born canadians, for example, is actually higher than americans. and recent research finds that people in canada and australia have twice the economic mobility of americans. what is intriguing is that many of the factors that seem to explain the variation across countries also explain the variation across the united states. the most important correlation in the harvard/berkeley study appears to be social capital. cities with strong families, civic support groups and a community service orientation do well on social and economic mobility. that's why salt lake city dominated by mormons has extremely high mobility rankings. this would also explain why america in general fares badly. the u.s. has many more broken families, single parents and dysfunctional domestic arrangements than canada and europe. the other notable feature in the harvard/berkeley study is the design of cities. places that are segregated, where the poor live far

born in canada. >> okay, you'll have to ask him that question. >> he was definitely born in canada. does that mean sorry, ted cruz? will there be birthers on left? the same way there were birthers on the right? >> it may be the donald trump birther. seems not to let go of this issue. who knows where that will go. >> i want to get a sense from you, kim. ted cruz asked evangelical voters to send their cell phone numbers for him. this guy looks like he's making bigger plans. >> iowa doesn't want hillary clinton's shadow campaign. they want hillary clinton in their living room. they expect it because they have it each election cycle. so he is going for the personal touch. i mean, i think he is going to build a database. the person who has the best ground game there wins. >> does this open up a window for somebody else who might open it up in iowa? >> it might be anybody. except maybe in the football realm. >> fair enough. we focus on the iowa hawkeyes every fall, never to be under estimated. thank you so

>> he was in canada maybe not. >> he was definitely born in canada. >> you have to ask him that

he's willing to recount any of his citizenship in canada. kathy will want to -- let's start with chris. chris, you know what? i think it's time for the mickey mouse and the rest of this nonsense and donnel troump simply end, and i'll do my nart saying there is no doubt there's two kinds of americans. natural born and those who are naturalized by a process of becoming a citizen. if you don't have to become gnarlized, you are natural born. ted cruz is natural born, by that definition. native born can mean born in the territory of the united states, but natural born means the second of your birth, you're an american by the fact of your birth, to an american mother. just like in that crazy circumstance that the birthers always pushed that obama was born somewhere outside the country, then he would have been naturally born an american. the irony of this whole thing is, that cruz fits the worst-case scenario recording obama, that he was born to an american mother overseas but is still clearly an american. why don't we all just agree on that and mo

and canada. cruz released his birth certificate over the weekend and chief political correspondent candy crowley is in dallas where she's about to set down with cruz for an interview. what do you think we're going to hear? >> reporter: well, i think we're going to hear that he just thought that this was a good thing to do to renounce his canadian citizenship to clear up any lingering questions there might be. i think you will hear the skeptics say he really wanted to get this off the table so if he should run for president, so many people think he wants to, that it's not an issue. you clear it up two years ahead of time. i think i would also mention to you that right now the senator is concentrated on efforts to defund obama care, which is what he's doing in dallas tonight. so maybe he wanted a conversation off the table so he could have the conversation he wanted. nonetheless, he said i've got nothing about canada but i'm an american citizen. >> also, candy, it's creating you could say a somewha

france, u.k., canada, saudia arab arabia. they want to make sure they have the information correct. you know, when you give intelligence information, there's a chance that you can say how you got it. where did that information come from? this information came from u.s. sources but also from international sources which have been kind of unnamed. they want to make sure that they don't say too much but they would like to say enough to convince people that they have a definitively that the regime used those chemical weapons. you heard it from carney several times. they have no doubt. >> wolf, i want do you button this up for us here. there's a protocol that's involved when there's a potential military strike when we engage in this type of action here. i imagine the president has a very short window here. he's going to be giving a speech for the 50th anniversary on washington, but he's also leaving town early next week. do we expect within that window perhaps of five days that we might see the president come out and make a statement and that military action might actually move forward? >

the land burning out of control, as wildfire spending tops $1 billion for the year, and officials ask canada for more manpower, and breaking news on the lead, the national security agency now admitting it spied on ordinary americans, but say it was only a mistake, a mistake that happened tens of thousands of time. >>> plus she stood between a gunman and another potential newtown. we'll hear from the bookkeeper who talked a man out of possibly committing mass murder. >>> welcome to "the lead." we'll begin with a frightening indicator of what firefighters are up against, as wildfires leave behind scorched earth. in idaho the threat level was raised to the highest level for the first time in five years. resources are stretched so thin there that the military and even international firefighters could be called in to help. that includes firefighters from as far away as new zealand. wildfires are also closing in on two national treasures. in california crews are working overtime to contain a forest fire just east of yosemite and 45-00 acre fire is burning in the hard of yellowstone in wyoming. in

she's now running for parliament in canada. welcome to both of you. julia, let me start with you. do we know how much of what is going on is about more than snow den? i mean by which there did seem to be a more promising prospect between u.s./russian relations, the reset, but then you've had syria on which the putin administration has been a big disappointment to the obama administration. you've had even arms control where they have not been particularly forthcoming. and then this. so is this part of a larger trend? >> i think snowden was just the catalyst. he was the straw that broke the camel's back. i think you would have to rewind past syria and go back to libya. the russians felt very much duped by the americans. they had abstained from vetoing the resolution to allow the use of force in libya, and then what ended up happening was not, you know, the use of force was much more than they had anticipated and then gadhafi ended up getting killed. this really, really rattled putin. then you had the protests, the kind of anti-kremlin protests that broke out around the time of putin

cruz was born in canada. a cuban dad, an american mother. what say you? is it automatic that he is eligible to become president of the united states? >> i think senator cruz is eligible to be president of the united states. the key here is whether he is, in fact, a u.s. citizen by the fact that his mother was a u.s. citizen from delaware. i think the answer to that is yes. under section 301-g of the federal law, the immigration and nationality act, that is recognized as giving you citizenship at birth. that then triggers the natural born language of the constitution if you run for president. it is certainly true that this was not defined in the constitution. it was not particularly clear in the constitutional convention. what was clear is the framers didn't want the aristocrats coming over to the united states and taking over the country. there were some that thought they were barring alexander hamilton, although i wasn't sure as many people. how we define this term, we look at whether you were a citizen at birth. and the united states state department sa

. >> you were born in canada. could you-- are you even eligible to be president of the united states. >> my mother is born in delaware, she is a u.s. citizen so i'm a u.s. citizen by birth. >> that shouldn't be a problem then. because as we know republicans are nothing if not understanding on that particular issue. as long as your mother was born in the united states, you could be born anywhere on earth and be completely accepted as a viable presidential candidate. okay. so cruz is kind of in. or he really loves spending time in iowa so he's definitely in. anyone else? >> are you laying the groundwork now for 2016. >> i'm open to looking at a presidential race in 2016 but got a little ways, got

. >> you were born in canada. could you-- are you even eligible to be president of the united states. >> my mother is born in delaware, she is a u.s. citizen so i'm a u.s. citizen by birth. >> that shouldn't be a problem then. because as we know republicans are nothing if not understanding on that particular issue. as long as your mother was born in the united states, you could be born anywhere on earth and be completely accepted as a viable presidential candidate. okay. so cruz is kind of in. or he really loves spending time in iowa so he's definitely in. anyone else? >> are you laying the groundwork now for 2016. >> i'm open to looking at a presidential race in 2016 but got a little ways, got elections in 2014. >> ah, send your sweater vest. you are more than welcome to run again but you might have to freshen up your campaign a bit. how about this time you only wear sweater sleeves. >> you obviously have a closet full somewhere. that is fiscally responsible. now at this point you are probably thinking the clown