Next Gen nonprofit leaders Jessica Paz Cedillos of the School of Arts and Culture at the Mexican Heritage Plaza and Jason Su of the Guadalupe River Park Conservancy discuss their work and the challenges they face, including coping with the COVID pandemic, with a special guest question from Kyra Kazantzis of the Silicon Valley Council of Nonprofits. We conclude with another excerpt from our 2016 interview with the late Chuck Davidson talking about revisions in the San Jose City Charter in the 1980s.