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it is wednesday, april 29th 2015. welcome to "cbs this morning." baltimore lockdown overnight after a curfew confrontation, and only on "cbs this morning," the mother who pulled her son away from the violence is in studio 57. we're in any paul where earthquake rescuers rescued a man who was trapped for three days. >> and john oliver is here with humor to make a serious point. but we begin this morning with today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds.
baltimore tries to navigate a high tide of tension. >> a tense standoff. >> go home to your families. >> you're making a fool of yourself. >> a total of ten arrests, the curfew is working. >> moving images. >> a little boy handing out water to a police officer. >> a handful of criminals and thugs who tore up the place. >> tshat' not the right word to call our children, thugs. calling them thugs? just call them [ bleep ]. >> the death toll from the massive earthquake in nepal has surpassed 5,000. >> a mother who found out her son suh vieved on mt. everest is e.aliv making an emergency landing in philadelphia after one of its nmgs went out.
>> the u.s. supreme court heard arguments whether saim sex marriages should be -- a >>ll 180 episodes of seinfeld reportedly going on hulu. >> i think i'm excited. >> i'm excited. >> all that -- >> archie bradley takes it right in the face. >> good news bradley appearing oklahoma. >> adrenaline junkies. >> they jump off the tallest residential tower. >> -- and all that matters -- >> all that chaos, one mother took matters into her ownan hds when she recognized her son among the protesters. >> all sisters should do what that mother did in that video. these are teenage boys larry. what's more effective against teenage boys this or this? >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" presented by toyota. let's go places.
captioning funded by cbs we have the mother. >> we have the mother who brought that. >> i like that. send in the moms you know? >> it does send quite a message. >> quite a message. >> i can't wait to meet her. >> she's something special. welcome to "cbs this morning." police say baltimore is stable after violent protest over the death of freddie gray. the national guard helped enforce a mandatory 10:00 p.m. curfew for the entire city last night. protesters eventually dispersed but police arrested ten people after the curfew went into effect. >> the unrest forced major league baseball to make an un unprecedent move to ban fans from the baltimore orioles game. jeff, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as you can see behind me this intersection is open once again. traffic is moving through it. people are going back to work, kids are going back to school but overnight this was the
intersection that was the scene of the largest clashes with police, and this morning police are still stationed at all four corners of this intersection. you see them right there in riot gear. they're not taking any chances. the citywide curfew took effect at 10:00. the people remained on the streets. some throwing bottles and rocks. officers dressed in riot gear launched smoke canisters into the crowd. protesters hurled them right back. in the moments leading up to the curfew, the message was loud and clear, self-appointed peacekeepers pleaded with people to get off the streets including congressman elijah cummings. >> i ask you to quietly go home. >> and vietnam veteran robert valentine. >> you want to all go home. i don't want to see you get in no problem. it's not worth it. you can't prove anything with your anger. if you use your mind and do it
pacified you can go further. sit down to the table and talk. >> reporter: a recorded message was blasted across the city on the ground and in the sky warning people to go home. the overnight confrontation came after day of mostly peaceful protests. there was singing and dancing, uplifting moments like this little boy reaching out to officers. >> we have to do better by them because this cannot happen again. it cannot. >> reporter: the police presence grew by more than 2,000. neighboring states sent in reinforcement. maryland governor larry hogan activated the national guard. >> this combined force will not tolerate violence or looting. >> reporter: it was all to prevent the chaos and violence of the day before when protesters, many of them teenagers, took to the streets trashing businesses and destroyed most anything that got in their way. baltimore mother toya graham became a symbol of a frustrated
city caught on camera as she pulled her son from the violence. >> i can't imagine what freddie gray's mother is going through, you know and i don't want to lose my son to the streets. >> take a look behind me. this cvs was boarded up. it was set on fire in the first clashes with the police. the cleanup here yesterday will continue here today across the city. gayle. >> all right, thank you. only on "cbs this morning," we will be joined by that baltimore mother you just saw in jeff's report. she clearly bee rated her son, toya graham. she made headlines all around the world and today she's here in studio 57. she fought her son to keep him out of the rioting. that's ahead on "cbs this morning." an impact in the way the september 11th attacks did not. for the first time in regular season play all fans will be banned from a major league baseball game today. the orioles are hosting the
white sox and baltimore's camden yards s. chip reid is outside the ballpark with this historic move. chip, good morning. >> good morning. this is an unprecedented move. commissioner robert mannford says it's in the best interests of the feigns. the legal historian said this game will set the record for the lowest attendance in history breaking the previous record of six set back in 1882 but the game will be broadcast on tv and radio. an average ball game fills 34,000 seats but today they will be empty aside from a few members of the press and manltd nens staff. because of the unprecedent protests the three games against the race will be moved to florida where 900 miles from home florida will officially be the home team. so if you're a baltimore orioles
fan and you want to root root root for the home team you're going to have do it in front of the tv. gayle? >> wow. it seems eerie but a smart thing to do. doesn't it. >> yes. it's weird to have game without fans. >> thank you chip. in nepal rescuers pull add man from the rubble more than three days after the kwaek. this is one positive sign from the region where desperation is growing. new video shows the quake happening across the border from question tibet where thousands are. seth, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. we are certainly seeing a growing sense of frustration on the ground, here also a desire to leave kathmandu to leave the capital city to go to these remote villages in some cases to check on families in other cases with hope that life might be better there. still we're seeing stunning images of survival. rescue workers drilled and pried
for five hours ultimately pulling this 28-year-old out of the rebel alive. he had been trapped near dead bodies for around 80 hours. my nails went all white and my lips cracked, he said. i was certain i was going to die. the stories of miracles here are few. on the streets of kathmandu, we saw mounting frustration and saw police in riot gear for the first time since the quake. this protest has popped up on this street corner. they're yelling the government needs to provide more aid and there's not enough bus tickets to leave town. hundreds lined up in dismal weather to try to get out of the capital. the government is offering free bus tickets to remote villages but the buses are overfilling and the tickets are scare.
trees felt lucky to get one. why are you leaving kathmandu? >> i'm leaving because we can't stand out here because of various disease. >> reporter: nearby at this camp displaced by the disaster we found more people on the move. they came here after the aftershocks but they're leaving because of the spread of illness. we hear people are leaving because they're afraid of disease. are you hearing that too? >> yeah. it dice to overcrowding. >> reporter: he says the first disaster was the earthquake but worries a second one could be coming. a health crisis. the colonel from nepal's army running the camp told us there are about 9,000 people. on monday there were just 3,000. and the doctors in the camp are telling us they're seeing increasing instances of disease and you can imagine living with
this rain outside, very difficult. >> seth doane in kathmandu, thank you. a family is celebrating this morning after learning their son is safe in nepal. 21-year-old dickerson spoke with his mother about going to mt. everest. they heard nothing until they received a call yesterday with good news. >> oh my gosh. yay. he's getting on a helicopter to kathmandu. >> the family says dickinson will return to the united states soon. >> boy, that is some good news. that is the call you want to get indeed that after ten days. >> after ten days. can you imagine the worry that she's been through? >> no, i can't. >> i know. awful, awful. we're hearing from other americans rescued from mt. everest after a deadly earthquake devastated mt. everest. holly williams spoke to some of the survivors. >> reporter: they were ferried
back to kathmandu after surviving in the mountains unharmed. when the avalanche struck climbers at everest's base camp they were just two miles away. >> it was very scary. >> reporter: becky of san diego described the most the avalanche descended on their mountain lodge. >> a plume of snow and wind and everything hit the billuilding. we're just very lucky to be here. >> reporter: the americans had paid for expensive travel insurance and all be home within 24 hours but many others in nepal can't count on that kind of support. this man told us he was in the bus when the earthquake trigger add landslide killing nearly everyone on board. he'll now finally get some medical attention. but very little help is getting through to some of nepal's most remote areas where the kwaek has devastated entire communities.
russell has been a mountain guide in nepal for 40 years but he's frustrated with the nepalese government. >> everything works on money. >> for "cbs this morning," holly williams, kathmandu. this morning the supreme court appears sharply divided over itself role in deciding the legality of same-sex marriages. the justices heard 2 1/2 hours of argument yesterday. the swing vote is justice anthony kennedy who sent conflicting answers. >> you know justice kennedy is a conservative but he tends to vote with the liberals on these gay rights cases. he could make the difference. yesterday he asked tough questions on both sides. >> you're at war with your
conscience. >> reporter: there were protests outside the court, and inside the courtroom, a rare outburst. justice anthony kennedy, a likely swing vote seemed conscious about changing the long held definition of marriage. >> this definition has been with us for millenia and it's very difficult for the court to say, oh well we need better. >> reporter: but the shift in public opinion has been dramatic. liberal justices suggested the constitution requires same sex couples be treated the same as heterosexual couples, as families with children. >> many gay people want to have children and they do. >> reporter: and chendy took issue with the lawyer opposing same-sex marriage. >> you had some premise that only opposite-sex couples can have a bonding with the child. that was very interesting, but
it's just the wrong premise. >> reporter: even conservative chief justice john roberts. >> if sue loves joe and tom loves joe, sue can marry him but tom can't. why isn't that discrimination? >> reporter: they say, look if the state is only going to have traditional marriage it's still going to have to recognize those league same-sex marriages performed in other states. charlie? >> thanks. this morning the jury in colorado will hear a second day of trial testimony in the mass murder of james holmes. he has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity in the movie mass kerr. 12 people were kill and 70 wounded. mark strassmann is in centennial colorado where victims are giving emotional accounts of the attacks. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. more gripping testimony is
expected today. a little girl who went to the movie with some family members and teenage girl. in the mayhem of it, caylin bailey made this 911 call. >> there's been a shooting. >> i was hearing just a lot of popping sounds, well gunshots and the movie was still playing and people were screaming. >> reporter: caylin, then 13 occasionally baby-sat very on kay moser-sullivan. >> i kept asking her if she was okay. she wasn't really responding. all she did was moan. >> reporter: the 911 dispatcher tried to help caylin. caylin couldn't reach veryonicaveronica. the girl's mother also wounded was lying on top of the little girl. >> did you ever see veronica alive again? no. >> reporter: this sergeant found
veronica lying on the floor. >> i picked her up and ran out the front entrabs of the theater. >> reporter: she was bleeding all over him. >> i looked down at her and realized she was probably gone. >> reporter: ashley moser, veronica veronica's mother was paralyzed from the waist down and also lost the baby she was carrying. james also wounded medley's husband. >> i saw blood pouring from his face and i knew he had been shot in the head. >> reporter: katy was nine months' pregnant at the time. >> i grabbed caleb's hand and squeezed his hand and i told him i loved him and i would take care of our baby if he didn't make it. >> reporter: kay caleb survived with severe brain damage. his speech is impaired but he testified tuesday by spelling on the alphabet board. ten feet away james holmes
stared straight ahead. >> reporter: the baby was born. he was born at the same time in the same hospital as his father was undergoing brain surgery. >> that's terrible. there's new mao moves this morning. nigeria's military say they're moving 200 girls who were movied from boko haram zreekists. they started evacuates them from the forest on tuesday. >> do you think this is the 200? >> i don't know, but very significant. >> great news. >> really great news. >> we turn to saudi arabia for two big stories. investigators say they foiled a terrorist plot against the united states embassy in riyadh. king salman introduce add new line of succession. the new crown prince an heir to
the throne 55-year-old has close ties with the u.s. officials. a cbs source who's very knowledgeable about the kingdom told "cbs this morning" these changes are significant and it is very surprising for someone in the line of succession to be so young. the prince is 55. the deputy crown prince is 30. >> that's right. the new deputy crown prince is the son of the king. >> that's an interesting story. only on "cbs this morning," she is being called mom of the year. there she is toya graham is in studio 57 to share with us the moment that she
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they're talking the unrest in baltimore which escalated after a group of teens initially clashed with the teens. a teen's got to teen. you can't stop a teen from teenin', that'll all i've got to say, unless you're a mom. >> at least one mom took matters into her own hands. >> she started smacking him on the head because she was so embarrassed. >> yes! that's how you to it. you do not mess with mom. she will take you down son. >> a lot of people are saying yes. >> yes. send in the mom. go, toya graham. welcome back to "cbs this morning." many are calling that woman mom of the year. she's here in studio 57.
her name is toya graham for an interview only seen on "cbs this morning." she'll take us inside the remarkable video of her, how shall we say scolding her son. >> i can't wait to meet her. >> me too. first a look at the headlines from around the globe. "the new york times" says the national football office is ending its tax exempt business. the nfl will not have to disclose tax returns. those returns include salaries of executives like the commissioner roger goodell. the "los angeles times" says twitter stock plunged after first quarter kiss appointing earnings. twitter shares dropped 18% yesterday. the report showed twitter missed revenue estimates and cut its sales forecast. >> britain's "independence" says a russian spacecraft is plunging back to earth. it has been spinning out of
control. the russian space embassy says it will crash in early may. progress 59 is carrying 6,000 pounds of supplies. and the "new york post" says send in the moms to retain the baltimore rioters. it refers to one mom who took matters into her own hands literally. toya graham spotted her son. cameras captured the moment she found her son. she yelled at him and struck him which quickly resulted in viewings. more than 2 million people viewed her response. the hash tag, mom of the year began trending on twitter, and today toya graham, a single mom of six joins us only on "cbs this morning." good morning to you, miss toya graham. >> good morning, good morning. >> it's the front page of the paper. it says forget the national guard, send in the moms. they call you hero mom. do you feel like a hero mom this morning? >> i don't.
i don't. >> what was your intention? >> my intention was to get my son and have him be safe. and at that point i knew that was -- the whole thing was not safe. it wasn't safe at all. >> let's go back to that morning because you had told him do not go down to the protest. >> yes. he told me the night before that you know everybody was supposed to meet at the mall and i said to him, michael, go to school don't go to the mall. >> but you knew? >> i had a doctor's appointment. we started getting phone calls that they were letting schools out early and they're shutting down the mall. my daughter said mom, you have to leave the doctor's office. we have to go. to get there and see the massive polices and the helicopters. i actually ran over to the
police and said where are the children that have to take this bus route here. >> tell us what you saw when you saw your children there? >> after speaking with the police officer and he pointed across the street from the mall, i stood there on the same side as the police with the shields and they were throwing bricks and i was like in awe. it was like oh my god. to see my son come across the street with a rock in his hand i think at that point i just lost it. >> you recognized the baggy sweatpants. >> recognized the baggy sweat pants. did have the hoodie on and the face mask on but it was something about those sweat pants he had on. >> you also made eye contact. >> and we made eye contact. >> what's remarkable for me is he clearly had the respect and fear of you because as you were
pushing him and doing that sort of right hook you have, he was backing off. >> mm-hmm. >> what was he saying to you. >> mom mom, mom, okay mom, okay mom. i was pretty much telling him, you know how dare you do this. if he -- i actually went to view freddie gray's funeral and if he wanted to do that, i would have allowed him to. even if he wanted to stay home from school to go to the funeral, i would have allowed him to do that. but for him to do what he was doing, it was unacceptable. >> you said i thought so poignantly you did not want to lose your son to the streets. >> no. and i fight with this not just because of this incident. i find-shielding my son on a lot of different incidents where these young kids are out here shooting each other and a lot of his friends have been killed, you know. and so my thing is i just want to keep limb in the house.
i know that's not going to -- you know he's going to get out. >> that's not really -- that's not really going to work, but the way you were striking him, you opened up a can of whoop-ass is the way i would put it. it's clearly not the first time you've about had that interaction with him. >> no. >> like i said -- >> tell us about him. >> like i said he has been in trouble before. he knows right from wrong. he's just like the other teenagers that doesn't have the perfect relationship with the police officers in baltimore city but you will not be throwing rocks and stones at police officers. at some point who's to say they won't have to come protect me from something and they may not want to knowing that you're bringing harm to them. two wrongs don't make a right and so at the end of the day i wanted to make sure my son -- i
had got my son home and we actually could see everything after being home watching the news, and he started seeing the fires and everything that was taking place, and he saiddid he say he was sorry? no he didn't tell me he was sorry but he was coming upstairs and telling me what his friends were saying. michael, you need to give your mother a hug. mother's day is around the corner. you need to buy her the best mother's day gift ever. >> does he admire the attention you're getting and understand the life of a single parent who has to work and take care of children is a difficult life? >> well, i think at this point -- i'm not working at the moment. i just came from losing a job but just coming into a brand-new home. so he sees me struggle. he sees the struggle that i'm
going through. but my children -- it's just me and my children. i mean you know, i don't go out. i don't do anything of that thing. the only thing i do is church and it's me and my children and my grandchildren. >> what did you think we you saw that? >> i thought. oh, my god my pastor is going to have a fit. >> i tell you what. your pastor may have a fit but the police commissioner of baltimore said we need more moms like you. so there's a lot of praise not just in baltimore but certainly around the country defending the moms. >> let's not miss the point. this is about the death of freddie gray but it's so much bigger than that. i don't want people to lose sight. a man has died here. we still don't know exactly how he died and what happened. can you just say a little bit about the community and the relationship to the police. i think that's very important. >> well at some point i understand the frustration that our community is having.
we haven't received any information on what happened to this young guy. you know, by looking at it from the news point of view, it seems like he was harmed. if he hadn't been harmed then the people of baltimore city, you know we feel as though we have the right to know what happened to him. >> you feel people can't talk to the police. >> we can't talk to the police. so the news -- you know the news, it keeps showing how he was dragged to that paddy wagon and they keep showing him laid up in the hospital with all the tubes in him. as a mother i mean that's just devastating to me and don't have any answers. so that's what's frustrating to most of us in baltimore city. it's just real frustrating to see that that young man was being dragged to the police cruiser and he wound up in a coma and then his -- he lost his life.
>> i hope your son has a new appreciation for you today. >> i hope so too. >> i hope you get a job. everybody's calling you hero mom of the year toya gram graham. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you. all right. a fraternity forced to go co-ed. why its members accuse the school of discrimination as they fight to keep their house of brotherhood. and if you're going off to work taking your kids to school, running some errands, set your dvr so you can watch us anytime. we'll be right back.
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wesleyan university. >> i think it's tragic loss for the college campus but also my brothers. >> they're forcing the fraternities to go co-ed after a string of sexual assault charges on campus. in september the wesleyan president michael roth said if they wanted to keep their campus housing they needed to start admitting women. he wrote in a letter women as well as men must be full members and welcomed in the body of the organization. later the university relaxed its requests asking that only fraternity housing be open to females. will will will crogan is the vice president of this fraternity, the only one that prides itself of being progressive. even the bathrooms are open to anyone regardless of gender or expression. >> we are the minority. a lot of us are blue collar
guys, you know. we're on sports teams. >> i mean we're not -- we're not advocating for white men to not be able to hang out together. we're just saying that like the structures of fraternities have a lot of resources. >> reporter: resources the school wants available to all students. sophomore abby cuniff and senior chloe murtag are asking for the change. >> societally i hope we're done with the institution. >> reporter: they began making plans for female residents but wesleyan said those plans lack details and wouldn't be ready before the deadlines. their housing provisions for next year were revoked and the fraternity sued requesting an in injunction to stay open. >> personally for me i can't believe you can't have a house to share brotherhood. >> would you go so far to say the men are being discriminated
against? >> yes. >> to say it's available to all campus that's not discrimination. that's relieving it reducing it. >> reporter: she represents the fraternity. >> title ix which is the law on it specifically makes an exception for fraternities and sororities. it's a recognition that for the living arrangement in and of itself isn't discriminatory. >> is there a concern that women may not want to live in a frat house? >> that's a big concern. teen girls we know we said would you live here. they said, yeah we love where you hang out but the bathrooms are gross. >> the school declined our request for an interview and submitted its final brief to a connecticut judge today. now the judge has 120 days to decide in f this 170-year-old fraternity will close this year. >> adriana, thank you. the boxing match that took years to set up is now just days away.
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it is wednesday, april 29th 2000156789 yesterday was my son's birthday. happy birthday. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i didn't get to do this yesterday. charlie said why didn't you say that yesterday. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there's more real news ahead including the fight to keep the peace in baltimore. we'll check on its conditions after the first night of curfew but first here's today's "eye opener" at . 8:00 overnight this was the intersection that was the scene of the largest clashes with po lice. >> to see my son come across the street with a rock in his hand, i think at thatnt i just lost it. w >>hat did younk thi when you saw that tape of you. >> oh, my god, my pastor is going to have a fit.
>> a very eerie scene inside this ballpark later today, empty except for a few members of the press. >> protesters popped up on the street. people are yelling that the government needs to provide more aid. >> ry evething works here on corruption. of course, the more money you have, the more you can get done. >> justice kennedy is a ns coervative, but, you know he tends to vote with the liberals on these gay rights cases, so he could make the difference. >> more gripping testimony is expected today as more survivors take the stand. >> starbucks has a new s'mores cappuccino cappuccino. it's perfect for those looking to gain s'more weight. i'm charlie rose along with gayle king and norah o'donnell. the rioters expressed anger over the death of freddie gray.
>> some lingered after the curfew went into effect. the police made ten arrests. jeff pegues is in baltimore with the next steps. good morning. the goal has been to keep the peace here. it's been a difficult mission over the last 48 hours. this will be another long day of police standing watch along this street on all four corners of the intersection as they try to keep the peace. there was a clash overnight as the 10:00 p.m. curfew moved into place. some of the people in the crowd threw rocks and bottles at the pleechlts some of the police responded by throwing smoke bombs. some of them threw them back. police slowly pressed forward into the intersection about 20 feet at a time. they made some arrests. the situation calmed down. this morning now that the smoke is clear the intersection is cleared once again, traffic is moving through this area. people are going back to work.
kids are going back to school. but there still remains a bit of uncertainty about what comes next. gayle. >> all right. we thank you jeff. the konk from baltimore will continue all day on our 24-hour digital network, cbsn. find it at cbsn.com -- cbsn.com @cbsnews.com. rescuers are slowly reaching people. anger is rising over the slow response but there was jubilation at kathmandu last night when one man was pulled alive out of the rubble. get this. he had been trapped inside of a collapsed hotel f82or hours. they say the man survived by sheer willpower. more than 5,000 deaths are blamed on the earthquake. gayle, i thought of you with this story. you said yesterday, you know there's going to be stories. >> there's always going to be one miracle.
i'm glad it came sooner rather than later. the iranian foreign minister held more talks on tuesday here in new york. i asked him on my pbs program last night if economic sanctions had forced iran to negotiate. >> the sanctions didn't change the mind of the iranian government. the iranian government went ahead with building more centrifuges some of what the sanctions did was to create an atmosphere along the iranian population that the united states doesn't want to treat them well, that the united states is trying to put pressure on them that the united states is trying to prevent them from even buying medicine with their own money from abroad. you know -- i mean the united states is saying that iran can purchase medicine, but if you go to a bank and you tell them that i want to send medicine to iran they say i can't. >> no one doubts that these have been very successful sanctions. >> this is not what i call success. >> it is is -- >> if you want to feel the
pressure of a series of governments around the world trying to influence the government to come to the table and talk about the nuclear issue because they don't want to see you, even though you say you don't want one, have a nuclear capability. >> no. you see, my friend. >> yes. >> the point is if you wanted to antagonize the iranian people. not you but if the united states government want tos to antagonize the iranian people f the united states government wanted to create feelings and misgivings about the united states against them then the sanctions have succeeded. but if the intentions of the sanctions were to bring iran to the negotiating table, that's not what they achieve. >> yeah. they did acheesh exactly that. >> they did achieve exactly that. >> he also said it would be illegal and immoral for iran to use a nuclear weapon.
that's what other leaders consistently say. you can hear more of my interview on pbs tonight, part 2. >> didn't you want him to have more passion like that? >> it was like that for 68 minutes. we went through every aspect. why they were disappointed why they couldn't get questioned answers. the history of what they have done before. it's a fascinating dialogue about iran and you see how they think, which is important. >> i spoke to charlie just afterward. he accidentally face-timed me. i said, what are you doing on face time. he said, what are you doing on my phone. >> he said, you face-timed me. >> i didn't know wait was. >> he must have been really excited. >> i'm talking on the phone and there she is and in close and i didn't recognize it. >> it works that way. >> charlie, you're telling too much information. >> what does that mean norah
o'donnell? in clothes he didn't recognize. >> my face is red. can you read thissome. >> i'm going to leave it right there. but my mind's going places. >> ed's your read norah. >> college is four years of education, fun, and bills and other things we learn in college. ahead, jill schlesinger looks at getting financial aid. oh, john did you hear all that? >> i heard everything. i'm leaving.
john oliver will go anywhere to get a laugh and make a point. ask edward snowden. >> when we talk about surveillance, are we applying it in ways that are beneficial? >> no one cares. no one cares. they don't give a [ bleep ]. >> we spied on unicef the children's fund. >> sure. >> what did he say? they don't give a what? ahead, john oliver what's ahead
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friday is decision day for high school seen yours all across the country. if that's happening at your household, you know that's a big deal. it can cost you between $19,000 and $42,000. that ee a big gap. many students wonder how they'll save up and pay for that tuition. jill schlesinger is here with an eye on it. if you're considering one of those packages what do you need to know? >> first of all you have time to negotiate in the next couple of years. especially if your family's circumstances have changed you can go back to the college and say, hey, one of us has lost our job, we lost our income. that's one. let's say you got a better offer from your school.
here's what you do. don't have the parents make the call. have the kid make that call directly. college admissions officers and financial aid officials tell me if the kid makes the appeal we're more likely to do something about it. >> that's very interesting. >> but the financial aid is only for freshman year. >> yeah. this is the problem. that first price you get sounds great, but, again, let's say the college is trying to seduce you, give you a great aid package. you don't know what the next three years are going to be like. you can ask the college, what is the likelihood in the future. you can go to the college of education. they've got a great calculator that tells you what happens to the freshman and what happens to the subsequent three years. >> is there a rule of thumb to follow when you're trying to get a student loan? >> it's important. we know students are graduating with debt. it's a problem. they delay buying homes. they have different decisions to make. a fantastic idea is to consider what your major is going to be and what you think your first
year's salary will be. cap the amount you borrow at what you believe your first year's salary is going to be. so if charlie's going to be an engineer, he says okay i'm going to make $75,000 or $80,000. if i'm going to be a liberal arts major oar communications major, maybe i'm only going to earn $20,000 to $25,000. >> i know jill, but when you're a freshman, you don't know -- i'll speak for myself. many don't know what they're going to do. >> a lot of them know whether they're the stems major, science, education, math or liberal arts. >> okay. >> what's the best way to save for college and when should you start? >> the best way i think is still the section 529 plan. here's what happens. you put in an aftertax dollar in one of these plans. they're sponsored by each of the states. the money you put in growed deferred among the tax basis, federal and state.
when you take it out. there's no tax due. roth ira. when should you saving after paying down debt emergency funds, pay your debts. >> you don't have to pay taxes? >> nope. >> no capital gains. >> nope not as long as it's used for college education. >> hallelujah. >> a lot of people are going ding, ding ding. always good to have you. so do you have more questions for jill about financial aid or saving for college? you can ask her on twitter by asking her on twitter, #bered. then go to cbsnews.com/eyeonmoney to join the conversation with jill. boxing fans can't wait for the fight. these two talk to james brown about their lives and the deal that finally got them in the ring together. that's next on "cbs this morning." >> announcer: this morning's
james brown spoke with them about their expectations. >> reporter: both camps with in full overdrive. a couple thousand mostly filipinos turned out to rally for their countryman eight-time champion manny pacquiao. >> are you excited? >> reporter: and even more fans cheered out to cheer their undefeated champion, floyd mayweather. >> give it up. >> reporter: but when we talked to both fighters their calm demeanors belies the hoopla that surrounds them. for 38-year-old mayweather it's about his character. >> does it bother you that you're described as being brashy cocky. >> yes, i have a lot of personality. i'm outspoken. >> no. >> but i'm older and wiser now.
you know i'm closer to 40 than i am to 21. >> reporter: and for 36-year-old manny pacquiao it's about his newfound faith. manny, in your mind why did it take five years for this to happen? >> i believe it's god's plan that it will happen now. >> do you still have what it takes to make this as big a fight as people are hoping it will be? >> yes. i still have that. the skill is still there. >> reporter: the boxing club has been clamoring for it for about three years. they expect to split about $3 million. the money is not lost on the fighters who both grew up in modest circumstances. >> i never imagined in my life that i can be like this you know. god raised me from nothing into something. >> i look at where i come from. mother on drugs, dad is drugged
up. dad in prison. seven living in one bedroom to where i live now. blessed. i'm truly, truly blessed. >> reporter: despite their similarities some have cast the fight as good versus even. born again manny pacquiao versus one who spent time in jail. he touched on them with me. >> i'm black, i'm rich i'm outspoken. those are three strikes against me already. am i a target? absolutely. did they blow things out of proportion? absolutely. they did. and i took a plea not to drag my children and my family through the mud because i'm a real man. >> reporter: whatever the story lines are outside of the men, the two men inside the ring will
feel the weight of history on their shoulders. >> i think it's one of the very important fights in my legacy. >> what can folks expect in this fight? >> excitement. it's going to be a good fight. i know. it's going to be a good fight. >> for "cbs this morning," james brown, las vegas. >> showtime will bring you the mayweather/pacquiao fight on pay-per-view. we're in the toyota green room with guess who, john oliver. >> who? who? who's that. >> what's your name? >> are you a big fight man? >> i prefer street brawls. >> what about green room brawls? >> i'll throw down. if this is what it's going to be i'll fight my way in and out. >> i have bromance for you. >> you have what? >> you want to give him bromance bromance? >> john oliver let's just say this. we have a great show this morning we're going the rely on
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\s i love charlie. norah and gayle are great as well, but charlie rose, i have a bit of a crush on. >> you've got a bromance working. >> i have a bromance. ite's cross-generational bromance. >> let's talk serious. >> that's serious. that's not a joke. he's not here. >> he is here. >> he is? >> he's supposed to. >> he's coming tonight? >> yes. >> great. i'll get much more comfortable then. >> i'm thinking you're a big fan. you smell extra nice. did you bathe in rose petals. did you smell him? >> i did. why did you do that for john
oliver and nothingbody else. >> i did nothing of the kind. >> is it a new suit? >> no. >> i come because he's here. he's the funniest man around here. >> i can smell you. i can smell you, charlie. >> on we're all excite thad you're here even chopped liver known as norah and gayle. we're excited you're here. his fans might be surprised at far he can go with comedic news but we'll find out more. >> we'll find out why he didn't shave this morning. >> we did notice that. uber is now delivering lunch in the big apple. uber eats will drop off lunch curbside in midtown manhattan in ten minute ps. it's launched the service in chicago this week. "daily news" introduces us to the new victoria supermodels. they all walked in victoria's secrets fashion show last year.
they'll pre place others who are leaving including karlie kloss. >> the world is right. we have ten new angels. >> don't you love a girl in wings. >> this is one of the most important stories today. >> charlie, don't you like a girl in wings? i need to get me some wings. >> i like a girl in victoria see correct. >> victoria's secret. >> that works too. demands pitcher archie bradley is recovering after being hit with a line drive in his face. he was able to walk off the field in his own. he suffered only slight sinus cavity damage. later bradley tweeted his picture. he says, pretty ugly huh? in all seriousness, he's okay. thanks for tweet ass and prayers. could have been a whole lot worse. #lucky. >> i'll say. john oliver takes a look at
the sear cal news. one year in the host enjoys a reputation for scathing wit. >> our main story tonight is income and equality. a good way to figure it out which side you're on is if you're paying for it or stealing it. we begin with isis. the ebola of people. japan, earth's pervert uncle. net neutrality. the only two words to promise more boredom in the english language featuring sting. >> he apaperly has been ordering pop tunes. his favorite sexy and i know it by lmlfo. >> lmlfo. the takes of a 14-year-old girl named tiffany. >> that song is so hot right now. >> the president of ecuador has been [ bleep ] stalking me on twitter all week long. >> i'm ben tracy.
we're going to introduce you to a sweet piece of technology known as the salmon ka mon. >> let's see where the salmon ends up. >> of course they're only getting more complicated. the u.s. has been bombing -- you'll ever taste because it dates back 400,000 years. >> what are you doing? tragic will i the antarctic ice shelf is diminishing now, if you'll excuse me. >> the death penalty is like the mcrib. when you can't have it it's so tantalizing, but as soon as they bring it back you think, this is epically wrong. >> my daddy's in jail for a low-level drug offense. >> you see that's exactly what i'm talking about. to me that's crazy. >> my daddy's in jail because he killed four people. >> okay. he's actually a dangerous individual who needs to be in jail, so that's not really the
same thing. >> my daddy's in jail and people pay money to pay him. >> that's actually a zoo and that's different. >> john oliver welcome back. >> that's a very silly combination. a very dumb show. >> doing very well. so what is the intent of this dumb show? >> just to make people laugh. that's it. at the oechbtd the week. we try to find things we're interested in and make people laugh and if that involved pub its or a salmon cannon the more, the better. >> is this the most fun you've had in your life? >> yeah but i haven't had a lot of fun in my life. i was raised in britain. >> norah wants to know why you didn't shave. >> no norah doesn't want to know. you want to know. you ear leak my mom. honestly i forgot because i'm going to normal work. i guess if i respected this workplace more i would.
>> ow. >> how are you able to find such comedy in such serious issues? in some of the bites you pick the news looks so silly, but you have a way of really putting it all in perspective. >> it's not just me. i'm the unfortunate face of a lot of people's work. yeah we have an amazing staff of writers and producers. so, yeah i just get the credit for lots of people work. >> no, no no but klaus is on the steady cam and said when you do start writing for your show. >> he dreams of his own show. >> he's an emmy win stheer that's right. klaus is getting ideas. that emmy was dangers. >> take us through the edward snowden thing as a classic example. >> yes. take you through it? >> what did you want to accomplish? is it something you want do again? >> yeah, i'd love to go back again it was such a pleasant
experience being in russia. it was just -- i wanted to -- what he reveals is so incredibly interesting and it's not being communicated very well and so we wanted really to examine that and so that's what we tried to do with him over a long long interview. >> but the interview was devastating. i know it was humerus, but it was devastating because it was incisive. it was more than entertainment. >> yeah. i didn't really want to devastate anyone but we came up with a very, very serious construct to communicate which i probably can't say at this point in the morning. it was about south of the man's waist area and what the nsa program can do regarding photographs of said region. >> i call that devastating. >> pretty devastating on a moral level. >> what was he most disturbed about that you told him that you notice he got really upset about? >> disturbed? >> upset. >> upset?
he didn't get upset. he's a computer skpefrmt computer experts as you know don't have a great interpersonal skills. >> he's not a high-level emotionally intel subsequent. >> that's right. the problem is they're very good at communicating with each other but it's frustrating to communicate with people who don't understand what you're saying. so we tried to bridge that gap. >> do you make points that might otherwise not well be made and make them better? >> i have no idea. i think sattirically it would not do better for anyone. >> was it surprising? most people would never talk to him. most have never heard him speak but you're sitting face-to-face. >> you can't be more available than doing that. it was about a long way from exclusive as possible. but, yeah. >> you went to russia to see him. >> yeah. >> don't minimize what you did,
john oliver. >> i did. i got on a flight for ten hour well done, me. it was interesting to do in a room because you can examine it long form and try and help him communicate an immensely complicated thing. >> was he likeable? >> yeah. it was really working so we didn't get to hang out. we didn't go to chipotle for multiple reasons. one being if there is a chipotle there and there isn't it would be sanctioned. >> or you might run into the president. what is it about having daytime show "daily show"s. >> jon stewart is the first to ever have done it? >> why on a serious note? >> he's the best. >> best at what he doeses or best at nur usualing talent? >> he's incredible. around i i owe him everything. i would not be in this country
let alone sitting here if it wasn't for him. he taught me every important lesson. >> i asked someone the other night from hbo by the way, richard pepler i why not john you, five nights a week? >> because i don't know if the world wants that charlie. i think in small doses. >> do you want that? do you want that? would you like that? >> you couldn't do what we do on sunday five times across the week. we couldn't physically i do that to our staff. >> are you lazy people? >> we are innately lazy. >> they do it on "the daily show," don't they that. >> they do they do. it's a little different what we do with the same kind of tools. it's a listle different. it's slow cooking. >> will you stay with us? >> no. >> you have no choice, john oliver. >> somebody get the handcuffs.
peabody award. go you. wow. how do you feel about this hit show and the fame that comes with that, john? are you comfortable with the fame? are you nervous about the fame? >> i don't go anywhere so i'm not exposed to any hypothetical fame. >> you know what i i'm talking about. when you're out and about, more peek recognize you. >> i'm not comfortable with it. >> why? >> i'm not a big fan of myself so i don't really understand why anyone else is. >> no. you're doing something right. is the show where you want it to be? >> no, no. we're working hard. there's a learning curve. it's been 12 month this week so we've been on for a year so there's a lot of stuff to improve upon. >> jon stewart, you mentioned trevor noah. he got into a bit of hot water. fair? >> right off the bat. >> i think you've got to wait and see. i think john said it best. >> should you be judged on past things that you did in the past
years ago? >> it depend as what they are. it depends what they are. >> they said inappropriate tweets and sexist tweets. should you be judged by that? >> speaking of trevor noah. >> yes. thank you. >> you want to thank me for that, john? >> the clarification. >> it depends what they are. but i think you just have to wait. if there's trust earned back he'll try and do that. >> what is your obsession with charlie? >> what i love about charlie is apart from the smell which as we all know is intoxicating. what i love is -- say it charlie. say it. you smell good. it's a compliment. >> i do not smell good. i do not have a smell. >> oh, charlie. that's like saying i don't have an accent. >> i want to know why you love me. >> because, charlie, you light up any room you're in. i'm happy to see you. whenever i see you i'm not
comfortable in it and when you come in, i i'm more comfortable. you're a perfect clown. great clowns don't know when they're funny. that's what you are. >> is that a compliment? a perfect clown? >> i love it. >> that's a first. that's a first. >> i never not enjoy charlie. >> we heard a happy marriage the most important thing is being comfortable with someone. >> i've been comfortable with charlie since i met him and i'm not comfortable around myself. >> we hit it off the first moment. >> i'm thinking about marriages. your wife is badass u.s. army medic. >> i'm thinking she is the powerhouse in the house. >> of course. >> are you funny at home? >> she needs a big man. i'm about per herr 34th major comedian and that's with her rounding up.
so, no i'm as impressive to her as you would imagine i'm as impressive as someone forcing a war. >> let's talk about baltimore. we had the mom of the year on our show. to watch that footage, she was giving her son -- >> -- the business. >> -- the business, exactly. what do you think? you've talk about forget southern in the past and some of the eyeriots going on. >> i have yes, sorry. >> when she came here and talked about it how do you make humor of a situation like that? >> it's complicated. you know it takes time. it's not easy to do on cue in a scenario like this. the ferguson we took a week to look at and we tried to build in the ideas so that you're not taking it at a local scab. you're showing how this is a systemic problem. the same is true in baltimore. that anger did not come out of nowhere. that has been, you know anger and justified resentment that's
been going on for a long time. so it's very easy to demonize and it's also not accurate to demonize it. >> can we leave you with this? stephen colbert is coming up? is that a good move on cbs? do you know him? >> it's a phenomenal move. it's a better move. you're losing a legend in david letterman. it's always gamble in appointing one but with him will's no gamble. as funny and as smart a man. >> as himself. >> and he will objectively be amazing. >> you're amazing. >> no, i'm not. don't say that. no, no. >> what do you think about the royal baby? you smell good. >> what do you think about the royal baby? >> i don't care. i don't care
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