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starting right now on abc's "this week" -- hillary's choice. >> i'm going to decide when it feels right for me to decide. because -- >> by the end of this year? >> her biggest hints yet on 2016. new answers from diane sawyer's exclusive interview. plus, our new poll reveals hillary's biggest weakness. firing back. >> we still get an american soldier back. >> as outrage grows, brand-new details from our global team at guantanamo bay and in qatar, where the freed taliban prisoners now live in luxury. plus, world cup wind-up. we're live in brazil, as a global celebration, four years in the making, kicks off. from abc news, "this week" with george stephanopoulos begins now.
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good morning. it's been a packed week in politics and we begin with hillary clinton, as she sets to barnstorm the country with her new memoir, hard choices, we have a first look at her exclusive interview with diane sawyer. a poll shows hillary clinton has a commanding lead for the democratic nomination. 7 in 10 democrats want her to be their candidate. and her time as secretary of state has boosted her standing with the broader public, 67% of americans think she's a strong leader, 60% say she's honest and trustworthy and 59% believe she has new ideas for the country's future. the top political question right now, hillary's personal future. >> when are you going to decide whether you're running for president? >> you know, when i'm going to decide when it feels right for me to decide. >> still by the end of this year? >> well, you know, certainly not before then. i want to kind of get through this year, travel around the
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country, sign books, help in the midterm elections in the fall and then take a deep breath and then kind of go through my pluses and minuses and what i will and will not think about by making the decision. >> probably not announced until next year? >> i'm not positive about that. the way i make decisions that's probably likely. >> i know it's a personal decision, but if you can do that -- if you can do that, you see a path and can do, do you have to do it? >> i have to make a decision that's right for me and the country. >> but is the party frozen in place waiting for you? >> no, people can do whatever they choose to do on whatever timetable they decide. >> but are they disadvantaged waiting for you? >> you know, bill clinton started running for president officially in like, september, october of 1991. i don't think that's a, you
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know, real concern. people will do what they think is best for them and whether they choose to take the step is very personal for everybody. >> and ultimately, it has to be for you, too. >> right. absolutely. >> while clinton considers her final decision, it seems like the campaign has already begun, with questions about her age and health raised by top republicans, like karl rove. >> you would not be human and not have a serious brain injury like this was and take into consideration if you're thinking about what she's doing. >> how serious was it? >> it was, you know, i think a serious concussion. >> the clot in addition, if clot had dislodged -- >> well, that was a scary point. >> you had trouble with vision. >> because of the force of the fall, i had double vision for a
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short period of time and i had some dizziness. >> so no lingering effects? >> no. >> you would release your medical records if you ran for president? >> absolutely. >> and what would you like to say to karl rove about your brain? >> that, i know he was called bush's brains in one of the books written about him and i wish him well. >> age? >> age, yes. isn't it great to be our age. >> mitch mcconnell said at one point, 2016 would be the return of the golden girl. >> that was a very popular, long-running tv series. >> there will also be scrutiny of clinton's record, especially the last four years as secretary of state. no surprise it's polarizing. our new poll shows that 90% of democrats think she did a good job, only 27% of republicans. and there's bipartisan concern about how she handle the
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bengha benghazi. >> 13 hearings, as you pointed out, 25,000 documents turned over, there's going to be another hearing in the house, are you going to testify? >> well, that's going to be up to the people running the hearing, i'm not going to say one way or another. we'll see how they conduct themselves. whether or not this is one more travesty of the loss of four americans or is this in the best tradition of congress. >> you can watch diane's entire interview, a one-hour primetime special, right here on abc tomorrow at 9:00 eastern. now to the firestorm over bowe bergdahl, the fbi is being called in to handle the growing backlash against his release. we have new details about how he's doing right now, what he went through during nearly five years of captivity. abc's martha raddatz is here with the latest. good morning, martha. >> reporter: good morning, george. bowe bergdahl is doing
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remarkable well physically, but he's now telling staff at the hospital in germany that he spent time in a cage and he's still not ready to cope with a family reunion. it was after an escaped attempt that bergdahl was kept in a small metal cage in the dark. according to a senior official. but his physical recovery is going well. the "new york times" saying he has problems only with his skin and gums. yet a senior official says the 28-year-old soldier is not yet mentally prepared to see his parents and he has no idea the firestorm his release has created. it's hard to believe that just over a week ago, bowe bergdahl's parents were celebrating, this morning there have been threats against the family's lives. so serious, the fbi has been called in. one said -- the ugly turn of events happened quickly for a variety of reasons. first, the circumstances of his
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capture, this week, we learned the results of an army investigation done at the time of bergdahl's disappearance. it backs up what some fellow soldiers have said, that bergdahl walked away from his base willingly. >> he was not forcefully taken off the base. he left on his own accord. >> reporter: then the swap. the trade provoking sharp criticism and even jokes from republican senator rand paul. >> mr. president, you love to trade people. why don't we set up a trade, but this time instead of five taliban, how about five democrats? i'm thinking john kerry, hillary clinton, nancy pelosi -- couldn't we send them to mexico. >> reporter: finally, there's the deal how it was handled politically. the startling comments from national security adviser on civil rights to george right
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here on "this week." the administration is still defending those comments. saying rice was talking about bergdahl's service before he walked away from the base. but he was in less than a year and he did nothing that stood out. we have learned that bergdahl does not to be called sergeant. he was promoted automatically during his captivity, he's telling staff he did not earn it. and george, it's still not clear when he'll be back to the united states. but he won't directly home. he'll go to an army medical center in texas. >> yes, they're taking it step by step. >> he's showing great self-awareness there. >> yes. >> okay, martha, thanks. now, let's get the latest on those five taliban leaders that were traded for bergdahl, they're now in qatar. abc's brian ross with the abc's brian ross is on their trail on how they're living now. >> reporter: it's been a week since the five senior taliban
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leaders arrived here. in the midst of luxury in this tiny, prosperous country. goftd officials say the former detainees are free to travel wherever they like in qatar. the country with the highest per capita income in the world and the five-star hotels and other trappings of wealth and prosperity to prove it. since their arrival to a hero's welcome seven days ago, the five former detainees have been kept hidden from view by the qatar government. and told not to talk to any reporters. the taliban operate here out of a villa in an upscale residential community. they'll be free to talk and meet with whomever they like. the qatar government says they'll closely monitor all of their communications and movement. in a statement over the weekend, their first, the five men say they'll comply with the agreement to return to afghanistan or the battlefield, over the next year.
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george? >> okay, brian, thanks. lots of questions for the chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers, he joins us now. congressman, thank you for joining us this morning. let's begin with the five men, you have seen the intelligence on these five men, what is your sense of what they'll do after this year is up? >> well, and we're not even sure they'll wait a year, their real value in the next 51 weeks is propaganda by the taliban. we have already seen that start. they can meet with taliban political leaders in qatar, they can have family members travel to qatar, and back through pakistan and afghanistan. and we believe that's certainly an opportunity for a courier network to get them prepared for what's next. i don't think you'll see any operational activity by them now. they're smart enough to know better. it allows them to prepare for what's next and that's going to be to join the fight. >> you're convinced of that? >> i'm absolutely convinced of that.
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we have seen both in their rhetoric and actions and certainly the information we see coming out of the taliban, including the network in pakistan, that suggests. it's absolutely going to happen. maybe not all five. i believe three for sure, likely four, and that fifth one is on the fence, but will probably say -- play rosome role in active operations. >> anything we can do to prevent that? >> well, unfortunately, the deal is done. that's the problem here. one thing about this, george, the focus has been, is one soldier worth it, not worth it? i think that completely misses the problem here. this is a huge regional and geopolitical problem for the united states now. hostages are now currency in the war on terror. but secondly, think about what happened in the last week, america said we're leaving in 2016 completely, we negotiated
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with the terrorists, and by the way, this happened before the election even occurred. this weekend, this weekend, the taliban tried to assassinate one of the political leaders, abdullah abdullah, who's running for office in afghanistan. this was the wrong message at the wrong time. and we're going to pay for this decision for years. this shouldn't be about congress being invited to the party. this is all about this honest discussion about what the ramifications of this is. >> you're very clear, you said you wouldn't have made the trade. what about the bedrock principle of soldier's creed, i will never looech a -- leave a comrade. >> those of who have followed this for years, this wasn't the only option that was available. >> the administration said it was. >> no, this administration has this theory you're either with them --
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that's wrong. so, the reason they avoided congress, this isn't about what we didn't get invited to the party and we should have our feelings hurt, it's because we can empower all of the people, diplomats who disagreed with this decision. military folks. that voice never got heard in the final discussions leading up to this deal. that's why you engage with congress. we can empower those voices. we can get those questions asked. so you don't make a mistake that actually might jeopardize, diplomats, aide workers and soldiers as we move forward. that's what my fear is as we move forward. >> had bowe bergdahl been captured during a battle, would you still be opposed to this deal? >> yes. remember, he was in pakistan, not all that far we believe from an isi and their intelligence service and military outpost, so now there's two others, an american in pakistan, bergdahl was in pakistan, certainly osama bin laden,
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pakistan, there's a reoccurring theme here. the fbi, george, we would call that a clue. this is a problem and a place to start. we never went at pakistan with any level of pressure. there were other options on the table. many still classified that never even rose to the level of discussion. i think that's the problem. remember, it's not just getting the soldier out, and we're glad and happy for the family -- that's great. but it's a bigger ramification of what this trade means to afghans that we have asked to risk their lives trying to free that country of the taliban. >> what should happen with bergdahl now? if he's found to have deserted, should he be punished? or, has he already paid the price? >> well, i think the department of defense needs to do a very thorough investigation. obviously, those soldiers are very concerned by it and very p upset about it. you jeopardized other soldiers when you walk away from your post, period, end of story and
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that's a serious, serious matter. but it needs to be thoroughly investigated by the department of defense. the administration trying to change the narrative through the leaks to the papers what was or wasn't. they should stop all of that. we need to have a full discussion right now about the policy implications, broader implications that just occurred. >> final questions, the question about impeachment, should impeachment be on the table? >> well, again, you know, that's a long way down this road and the most disturbing part about this, george, is that in 2011, their answers to the questions about for a bipartisan opposition to this trade, by the way, was a whole series of things that had to happen, and one struck me, by the secretary of state at that time, if none of the conditions were met. none of them will be met.
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like, renouncing violence, adhering to the afghan constitution and making sure that women are treated fairly in afghanistan, we got none of that. i think that's where we ought to focus right now. we have made a serious, serious, geopolitical mistake. we empowered the taliban, the one thing they wanted more than anything, george, is they wanted recognition from the u.s. government so they can use that to propagandize. that's where we need to focus. we need to unwind this thing before we fix it. this is as serious as i have seen it. we need to work through these issues. i encourage the administration to come back to congress, as the law requires, to have these discussions. to get the answers before you move forward. >> congressman, thanks very much for your time this morning. >> thanks, george. the debate over bergdahl has brought guantanamo back in the spotlight. the president pledged to shut
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down during his campaign. abc's chief national correspondent byron pitts got a rare look inside. >> reporter: justice moves slowly at guantanamo bay. of the 149 who remain inside the wires, some like alleged 9/11 architect will face trial. but many others, like the five taliban commanders freed in exchange for bowe bergdahl, were never charged. at this point, we're stending no more than ten feet away from the detainees. they can't see us. this glass we're seeing is one-sided. inside one camp it's dark. we're asked to keep quiet. >> they're calling for the guard. so, you guys can't be seen. >> reporter: we step back. we noticed when the guards went in they wore those protective shields to protect their faces. shields protect from cocktails of urine and feces that have been hurled in their direction. a few minutes, afternoon prayer begins. and we're soon escorted out.
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700 men have come through gitmo. some say past allegations of waterboarding and hungry strikes have turned this place into a terrorist recruiters dream. >> these men are ghosts. they're not being held for who they are. they're being held for our idea of who they are. >> reporter: the defense secretary has final sign-off on transfers. and the white house has been pressuring him to pick up the pace of transferring low-level detainees. national security adviser susan rice reportedly asking last month for updates every two weeks." commander of the joint detention center. how concerned should the american public, at some point, this place will close, they'll be transferred? >> as a private citizen, and a military officer,
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i think we need to be concerned about it. >> reporter: why? >> once we transfer them to another country, we're obviously losing control over that. >> reporter: nearly half the men here have already been cleared to leave by an independent review panel, identified as, bodyguards to drivers. waiting for hagel's transfer order. the other, more dangerous detainees may need to be transferred to u.s. prisons. you believe at some point, that some of the detainees at guantanamo bay will serve their time on u.s. soil? >> yes, i do. >> reporter: i can hear some folks in congress saying, over my dead body. >> in addition to other issues with guantanamo, it is enormously expensive. >> reporter: so, as the sun sets on gitmo, the dilemma -- which
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of these prisoners pose a continuing threat and where should they go? for "this week," byron pitts, abc news, guantanamo bay. and the roundtable weighs in later in the program. up next, our closer look, is seattle leading the way in living wage. that debate in two minutes. the minimum wage. (mother vo) when i was pregnant... i got more advice than i knew what to do with. what i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. luckily, unitedhealthcare has a simple program that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidance-before and after the baby is born. simple is good right now. (anncr vo) innovations that work for you. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. you're not doing anything as fast as you used to,
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in "this week's" "closer look," the city of seattle raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour, far and away the highest in the country. will that experiment inspire other cities or scare them away? abc's neal karlinsky in seattle. >> reporter: across the country, this spring has seen protests by fast-food workers demanding a raise.
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>> fast-food workers and all workers deserve a living wage. >> reporter: democrats are listening, hoping it will be a winning issue for them in the midterm election. >> the minimum wage, even if it doesn't affect you or your family, it's an issue of basic fairness. >> reporter: seattle has done something that no other city has come close to, raising the minimum wage to more than double the federal rate, an unprecedented $15 an hour, the nation's highest hourly wage. >> if we want to regain our economic strengths the minimum wage is going to have to raise. >> reporter: newly elected seattle mayor ed murray says his city is setting an example others should follow. and he is not afraid of the criticism. i'm sure you read and heard some of these things. seems ready to turn his city into a gigantic laboratory. one of the most ambitious labor experiments. >> i think we're acting as a
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laboratory of democracy. because the federal government is not acting. the seattle approach is the way out. you rebuild the middle class, you get back to a vibrant economy. >> reporter: this restaurant owner says her cafe and others will almost certainly be forced to lay off workers and possibly close because $15 an hour will put her in the red. >> some of us might lose our livelihood if we can't keep our businesses open, but who's really going to pay for it? the workers in the restaurant industry. once we get to $15, the cafe is pretty difficult. >> reporter: the new rate will be phased in over several years. the international franchise union isn't waiting and plans to sue to protect small businesses. but the mayor says, he isn't worried. >> i actually feel pretty excited about the work we did, the very difficult negotiations we had between business labor and nonprofits to reach a good
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balance. and i think it's a model for the nation to look at. >> reporter: for "this week," neal karlinsky, abc news, seattle. and let's get more on this from paul gigot and katrina vanden heuvel. paul, you heard the mayor, he said seattle will be a model. >> well, if it's a model, we'll find out if it works. when you raise the cost of labor, you outprice a lot of people out of the labor market. particularly, the young, the least skilled. those who want to get on, on that basic wrung on the ladder. and move up. look, i worked for minimum wage. i worked for $2. i had jobs -- what did i learn -- i learned to show up on time. i learned certain skills. i learned that i didn't want to make the minimum wage for the rest of my life. i better get an education. >> katrina, what about that argument, this will squeeze young people out of the job. >> listen, this is smart economics.
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it's good politics and it's morally right. only 1 out of 10 minimum wage workers, is a teenager or a young person, you know, who are the real job creators in this country? it's a strong middle class. they create jobs. you create growth. it's a winning issue. 76% of americans support this. it's republicans and et cetera. morally, what does it say about america? if you're an american and you work full time and you live in poverty, it's a broken economic system. henry ford had it right. a good capitalist. he put money in the pockets of his workers to buy cars. and he created a middle class. >> the ceo of mcdonald's. they understand people have money in their pockets. they spend it. >> what they're going to do -- probably, mcdonald's going to hire a lot of people, they're going to have kiosks. and automation. but a lot of people who employ the minimum wage workers are low-margin businesses, restaurants, cafes, retail, they
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are the ones who can't afford to pass the cost along. >> the biggest employer of low-wage workers, walmart -- i mean, walmart is being subsidized by taxpayers, because their workers can't afford food. we're getting socked as taxpayers on both ends. there are enlightened businesses, costco, stride rite. trader joe's. >> big businesses with big profit margins. walmart, they can afford it. they don't mind. they play politics. they'll go along with it. then it's their competitors -- >> there are studies that have demolished the idea that increasing the minimum wage will cost low-wage workers jobs. that congressional budget office showed the benefits of raising the minimum wage
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outweighs the costs. you lift nearly a million out of poverty. >> 500,000 low-wage jobs will be lost if a minimum wage is increased. >> you have seen mitt romney, you have seen other top republicans coming out for minimum wage. >> it always polls well. i think people should get a raise. what they don't see are the jobs that are never created. that's harder to detect and it's harder to show up in polls. when that 500,000 figure came out from the cbo, they said, you know what, that's a very powerful argument. i don't think it's going to pass. >> you know what. >> last word. >> it's about the values of this country. if we're a country that believes in a strong middle class and healthy families, we need rules of the road to do that and i think hiking the minimum wage, by the way, enormous productivity gains of the last four decades were factored in,
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the minimum wage today would be $22. we need to have a sense of fairness in this country. that also is good for business and the economy. >> we got to take a break. thank you very much. we'll be right back with the powerhouse roundtable. the take on bowe bergdahl and hillary's launch. but first the big winners of the week. but first the big winners of the week. [ male announcer ] they say you'll never go back
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and now, george's pick. seattle hero jon meis. did he make a deal with the devil on releasing those five taliban? >> i think this was a very hard choice, which is why i think my book is so aptly named. if you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course, there are competing interests and values. and one of our values is, we bring everybody home off the battlefield, the best we can. it doesn't matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation. >> it doesn't matter? >> it does not matter. we bring our people home. >> talk about all of this on the
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roundtable. bowe bergdahl and hillary clinton. we're joined by tom cole, alicia menendez, matthew dowd, bill richardson and martha raddatz, who's back as well. he's glad bowe bergdahl is home, but he would not support the deal? >> well, i think the president did the right thing, i know it's controversial, it was a prisoner swap at a time when we're winding down a war. leave no soldier behind. i have been involved in these negotiations as well. >> you negotiated with the taliban back in 1998? >> yeah, they're very tough, they're very shifty, so the deal was made at a time when his safety and health were being jeopardized. but at the same time, i think it might lead in the future to a lessening of the tensions with the taliban. i think that might be a tall order. i think the president was totally justified with what he
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did. >> look, congressman, could he had the both ways? >> look, i wouldn't have traded murphy for these five guys. let's talk about who they are. these are five terrorists, they have blood of america on their hands. this was bad policy. obviously, everybody is happy when somebody comes home, regardless. frankly, a lot of people are saying that. it's not a partisan debate. this was a big mistake. >> i think this is an interesting issue to me, because everybody sort of approaches it from a partisan lens. i think there's, for me, three big points, one, it's totally confusing to me. we would have sent him to kill these same five men. at a time when we're in the midst of a war, in the midst of
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a conflict, with a very fragmented enemy and we're releasing five of them into combat. why we were in afghanistan and iraq to begin with? wars that seemed to have no real outcome on them. second, as byron pitts reports, guantanamo bay, which is -- there are all kind of human rights violations, these prisoners have seen no justice, no fair process, and finally, three, from a political perspective on this, the white house administration has totally mismanaged this. the president and susan rice stood up there like it was "saving private ryan." when we have that situation, the president -- he should have never stood up with the parents when he knew the information about this soldier was going to come out. >> alicia, information came out this week showing real anger suggesting that other soldiers died searching for him. >> h
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>> we're in the middle of the war, we're at the end of the war. we're winding this down. this is what happens at the end of a war. we transfer and trade prisoners. i think it opens up a big conversation. we have a president who twice campaigned to close guantanamo bay. one campaigning to do that. are we actually going to be able to execute that? >> it's going to be tough. also, this question of what should happen to bowe bergdahl, you have the details of his state of mind right now, the military came out this week and emphasize more that his actions will be investigated. >> they have aleady been investigated. they found he walked away willingly. >> twice, right? >> yes, when he was captured. they said he wandered away one other time. one time in california, he wandered away quite a bit. the one missing element is his side of the story. why did he do it? did he intend to go, talk to the taliban?
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i mean, everyone -- everyone believes that he was held against his will, definitely. george, in talking to some soldiers and military, this shows a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of the administration, about the military, what the reaction would be in the celebration in the rose garden. >> they saw it coming. that's why they tried to get out ahead of it, bill. >> no evidence that he's a deserter. at the same time -- >> the soldiers will say he's a deserter. >> i was a governor and we dealt with a lot of young men that came back from iraq and afghanistan with ptsd and mental issues. this is probably what happened to the young man. but that doesn't mean that we should not make every maximum effort to leave a soldier behind. this is a time when our military
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that said, unless we get them out now, and i know the taliban, because of health and safety issues, we're never going to get him out. so, we had to do this. >> i think we've gotten lost in this whole thing whether or not he's deserter. every single human life has value, including the taliban. i don't think that's the question. i don't think it's a question -- i have a son who served in iraq and a brother who served in panama and kuwait. the question becomes, how do we do it and when do we do it? and i think in this situation, most of the american public believes, here are five enemy combatants, whether or not we're winding down the war, they're not winding down the war, they're going to continue to be enemy combatants whether we're there or or not. we're going to risk soldiers lives. moving on to hillary clinton. congressman cole, no delight from the president on bergdahl.
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from what we have seen of her interview with diane sawyer, no daylight on the president, any doubt, do you assume that she's going to be the democratic nominee? >> yes. i certainly do. not much doubt to me, and you can look at these really incredibly dull memoirs and know she's still a politician. we'll never get a great memoir out of hillary clinton until it's done. >> one of the things that we have seen, alicia, fascinating, she's trying to clean up some past mistakes. also, in the book, in the interview as well, a lot more emphasis on her softer side, which she also didn't do in the 2007 and 2008 campaigns. >> on top of that, we see her building the case on her time as secretary of state. saying i have accomplishments i
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can point to. reclaiming america's place in the world. she'll have to build an economic narrative that she can sell to americans to get them excited about the possibility of her being president. >> after watching that interview and after watching this book rollout, there's very little possibility that she's going to run in the course of this. the big question mark in this memoir that came on to me, she knows the difficult balance, what does she do with president obama? because she's projecting forward that president obama is going to be an unpopular president. getting a third term is going to be very hard. how she wrote this book, when she mentions disagreement, i supported the president even though i disagreed with him. >> the other thing is to have ideas for the future, particularly on the economy. bill richardson, one of your former fellow
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governors talking. even in our poll, it shows that most democrats, even though they support hillary clinton, want a contest. >> you know the clintons don't confide in me. but i will say -- but i do think this poll shows tremendous support, nationally, bipartisan for her. number two, she was a good secretary of state. now, if i'm a primary candidate, you run on her left. she's still close to wall street, but if this poll is measured, she has the support of every faction of the democratic party. the moderate faction, the business faction, the environmental faction. the progressive faction. and she's going to be very hard to beat. and lastly, on the loyalty issue, she showed her statesmanlike view that she would support the president on this bergdahl issue. and many other issues. >> you covered her tenure as
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secretary of state, did you see any other places whehre she might try to open up more differences from the president down the road? >> i don't see anything in particular. what this depends on is how people react to that narrative. like alicia said, she's laid out what she did as secretary of state. the pushback is going to come now. a lot of people are going to say, wait a minute, you didn't make a difference here or there. >> george, inevitably is a huge burden to bear in this. she had it in 2008, it didn't turn out well. in some respects, like the belmont stakes yesterday, was she secretaryiat or california chrome, wins along the way, fades in the stretch? >> what is her biggest vulnerability? >> when there's no place to grow, there's no place to go. the coalition against her is actually very solid, it's not going to change. people poll the same way.
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i think a long campaign is very much not to her advantage. >> the best day of her campaign is the day before she announces. >> we have to take a quick break. nate silver is up next, he reveals his world cup predictions. and our powerhouse puzzler is inspired by the world cup. here's julie foudy. 1999, when the u.s. women won it a fabulous penalty kick. when was the last time the u.s. hosted a men's world cup and who won it? >> and we're back in two minutes with the answer. with the answer. i'm sinora, and this is my son, chris. i'm a messy person. i don't like cleaning. i love my son, but he never cleans up. always leaves a trail of crumbs behind. you're gonna have a problem with getting a wife. uh...yeah, i guess. [ laughs ] this is ridiculous. christopher glenn! [ doorbell rings ] what is that? swiffer sweep & trap. i think i could use this. it picks up everything. i like this. that's a lot of dirt. just that easy.
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a men's world cup was in 1994. and you may remember, brazil beat italy, 3-2, on penalty kicks, and it was actually the first time a world cup had ever been decided on a penalty kick shootout. >> all right, we're back in one minute with nate silver's world cup predictions. minute with nate silver's world cup predictions. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ [ birds squawking ] my mom makes airplane engines that can talk. [ birds squawking ] ♪ my mom makes hospitals you can hold in your hand. ♪ my mom can print amazing things right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] my mom makes trains that are friends with trees.
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[ train whistle blows ] ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ there's the u.s. national soccer team getting ready for the world cup, winning a friendly match against nigeria last night. but what are their chances for 2 biggest prize in the world of sports, the world cup? abc's paula faris went to our experts at fivethirtyeight for some answers. >> reporter: who better at predicting the world's biggest championship tournament, than fivethirtyeight guru nate silver. you played soccer, but your career ended when? >> i think in sixth or seventh
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grade, it was my least worst sport. >> reporter: and now, nate and his team have whipped up their world cup forecast. so it's all based on numbers? >> it's all based on numbers. there's not any subjective component to it. we're trying to account both of the quality of athletes and the performances. >> reporter: nate found everything counts. the farther you travel, the tougher to win. >> especially east to west. that might help the other south american teams. it might hurt a team like japan, coming in from the other side of the world. >> reporter: but the big question for american fans, how will the u.s. do? the last time the team advanced out of the group stage and nate gives them a 37% chance to do it again. >> they played pretty well together as a team. >> reporter: but the chances the u.s. wins it all, nate says, it's just 4%. well, make it .4%.
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words in jim carrey, you're saying there's a chance. >> there is a chance. things like this can happen. it's a tough year to be an underdog. >> reporter: it's because of teams like these, the heavy hitters, brazil, argentina, spain and germany. >> you have four terrific teams that might be favorites in any other year. >> reporter: big drum roll, who are predicting to win the 2014 world cup? >> it's brazil's world cup to lose. i feel like anyone who doesn't say brazil is trying too hard to be contrarian. >> reporter: way to go out on the limb. >> yes. this is a year in particular where it's a good year for the favorites. >> reporter: all right, nate, thank you so much. we'll be watching. see you in rio. >> thank you. >> nate's full world cup predictions tomorrow on now, let's go back to rio. julie foudy, look at the
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scene there, where the world cup is going to begin later this week. of course, julie won the world cup twice for u.s. women's soccer. julie, we just heard nate's hard truth, .4% for team usa. even the coach said the team can't win. >> i know, and although, george, they looked good last night, the u.s. against nigeria, it's probably pretty realistic. because all of the big boys are here, as paula said, the strongest team the u.s. probably had in a very long time and the deepest team, the biggest challenge for them is of course they're put in this group of death, ghana their first game knocked them out of the world cup. portugal has the best player in the world in cristiano ronaldo and germany. they won three world cups. that's their group. that's the big challenge. we're looking at baby steps for the u.s. >> and how do you handicap the world cup overall? do you agree with nate? >> i actually am going to be a
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contrarian here, george, and i think brazil is the obvious choice, of course, being the host here. but i'm going with argentina, besides having one of the best players in the world, lionel messi, has a tremendous team as well. they're from south america as well, they have a lot of fans coming. i'm going to go with argentina to win this world cup, not brazil, because there's tremendous pressure on brazil being the host. >> it looks so beautiful right there right now, but there have been a lot of protests, some security concerns, how is that playing down there? >> well, it's interesting, because, brazil is known for this love of football and this joy and it's in their hearts and their souls, but there's this undercurrent, when you walk around, i was out yesterday, there's this undercurrent of concern about how much money was spent on this world cup. surprisingly, everybody thought that the anti-government
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protests, what's more disruptive are the strikes. in a city of 30 million people they're having a transit strike in its fourth day, and that's become a real concern, they're seeing this sadness, the money being spent. so, when you look at it, how this brazil team does, is going to be really a test of the attitude of this country and how they approach this world cup. >> julie, thank you very much. you can watch the world cup action all day long on espn, the coverage begins on thursday . when we come back -- the tea party scores a win this week. our roundtable weighs in. .
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there's chris mcdaniel. forcing a run-off. it's a boost for the tea party after some setbacks this season that have established republicans feeling good about taking back the senate. the roundtable weighs in after this. >> reporter: the tea party announced that it's back with a bang. oni ernst, the harley davidson mom of three, blew past her rival to capture a republican senate nomination. she's vowing to make washington squeal. >> i grew up cast rating hogs on an iowa farm. when i get to washington, i'll know how to cut pork. >> reporter: the same night ernst won in iowa a stunner in mississippi. newcomer chris mcdaniel forced a
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primary run-off with a senator since 1978. national tea party groups are backing mcdaniel, a former radio talk show host. now comes a three-week sprint of a run-off. mcdaniel supporters were accused of secretly taping cochran's bedridden wife. and this attempt to define a spanish term. >> reporter: mcdaniel's comments have some republicans worried about a rerun of recent tea party tumbles. could this be a repeat of 2010 or 2012, a candidate ended up doing things that are disqualifying. >> i think the todd aiken things were one time. >> reporter: for republicans,
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though, it guarantees at least a few more weeks of not so friendly fire. for "this week," rick kline, abc news, washington. >> we're now back with the roundtable. let me bring in congressman cole, you spear headed republican campaigns in the past. mcdaniel the only real tea party star who's looking to have a chance to win one of these primaries, making a lot of your colleagues excited about the prospects of taking back the senate. >> i think we'll take back the senate. you look at seven deep red states, we're probably going to win six, or all seven. iowa, i think we'll win. colorado, long shots in virginia. maybe not quite so long in michigan and new hampshire. so, you know, the board looks pretty good. the fights we have had have been spirited. >> predicting a kind of wave of the incumbent wave of the white house? >> it becomes what the current
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administration is doing and what the president's job approval. the president's job approval is in the low 40s. which means republicans will pick up seats in the course of this. i think what's interesting about this race in mississippi, the tea party candidate that have won, it's wasn't about the quote, unquote, the tea party. the constituents became immersed in the status quo. i think mcdaniel wins this race and he wins in november. mississippi is red. >> all of top lines are definitely about the republicans. they got the candidates they want. but i also think there's an interesting conversation happening on the democratic side, where progressive candidates winning in iowa and california and new jersey. potentially changing the composition of their caucus. >> i believe we'll narrowly retain the senate, narrowly, but if we lose the senate, i think the president needs to concentrate on global climate change, on executive orders.
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i think it would be unfortunately, the death nail of immigration reform. what i would do if i were the president in that case, put a moratorium on deportation. i think the senate very narrowly. >> the president seems to be gearing up for something like that, migrant children, up to 1,000 being brought to centers in arizona. >> it's a policy failure much more broadly. i don't think conditions in central america are different than two, three years ago. we made a decision, if you're an unaccompanied minor, you show up in the united states, we're not only going to take you in, we're probably going to keep you, i think that's encouraging news. not a policy thought. people want to help people in crises, it's the appropriate thing to do. on the other hand,
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you can't have an open invitation for everybody who comes to the border. >> i think there's legislation that can easily go before congress, we know what comprehensive immigration policy looks like. we have the same conversation every two years. it's time for congress to act on this. it's no longer a partisan issue. it is a humanitarian crisis. on top of that, it's an economic crisis. we need to be honest. >> we're out of time. i apologize. we'll be back after this from our abc stations.
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and now, we honor our fellow americans who serve and sacrifice. this week the pentagon released the names of two soldiers killed in afghanistan. and that's all for us today. thanks for sharing part of our sunday with us. check out with "world news" with david muir tonight and i'll see you tomorrow on "good morning america. nd i'll see you tomorrow on "good morning america." .
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>> i'm monica malpass. it's a year away, but already there's speculation about who will run in the mayoral election to 15, who's in, who's out, we'll talk about it next on inside story. good morning, i'm monica malpass, woman come to inside story. let's meet our insiders this weekend. nia meeks. ajay raju, and jan ting. and dom we have the poll


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