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implementation. >> democracy now! will be in warsaw, poland all next week to cover the years u.n. climate summit. we have covered every summit ince 2009 in copenhagen 2010, and cancun, mexico, in 2011, durban, south africa and last year's summer -- summit in doha. you can go to to see our coverage of warsaw so far of highlights from our previous reports. the obama administration is asking commerce to delay a new round of sanctions on iran amidst into new negotiations over the iranian nuclear program. lawmakers from both artists have vowed to move ahead with the measure targeting iranian oil exports despite the recent progress in talks between iran, u.s., and five other world powers. iran would see a limited relief and sanctions in return for
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suspending some nuclear activities. the negotiations are set to resume next week in geneva. john kerry is meeting with senate banking committee members today in a bid to delay a sanctions vote. on tuesday, white house press secretary jay carney said congress should give the talks a chance rather than leave u.s. -- lead the u.s. on a march to war. box this administration has imposed the most crippling sanctions in history against iran. we appreciate the leverage the sanctions have given us and we appreciate the partnership that congress has given us. in that effort. but this is a decision to support diplomacy and a possible peaceful resolution to this issue. the american people, justifiably and understandably, prefer a peaceful solution to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. in this agreement, if achieved, has the potential to do that. the american people do not want to march to war. box the israeli government has
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frozen one of its most controversial settlement projects while simultaneously expanding another in the occupied west bank. on tuesday, the israeli prime minister announced he is suspending holding in the area known as e-1. its completion would bisect the west bank and ensure the failure of forming a palestinian state. constructiond e-1 last year after the u.n. recognized palestine status as an observer state. israeli officials say they're frozen the e-1 to reduce tensions with the obama administration. but as is it's been a building in the area, israel announced plans to build some 20,000 new settlements on palestinian land in the west bank. in response, the palestinian authority said it would end involvement in peace talks if the new plans go through. the afghan government is reportedly abandoned a probe into the killings of civilians
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after being refused access to the u.s. soldiers linked to the crimes. the investigation centers around the disappearances of 17 men seized by u.s. forces in wardak province. the bodies of 10 of the victims were later found buried your u.s. military base used by a unit called the a-team. a recent report said the disappearances and killings could amount to some of the gravest war crimes perpetrated by u.s. forces since u.s.-led invasion in 2001. according to reuters, afghan intelligence officers have stopped investigating after the u.s. military denied a request to interview u.s. green berets and their afghan translators. to hear our interview on the article, go to in bangladesh, garment workers continue a massive protest against low wages at the factories producing cheap goods for western firms. the protest has now led to the closures of 200 50 garment factories, up from 100, on tuesday. thousands of workers are taking
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part. more than 100 people were wooded today as striking workers clashed with police for third consecutive day. theii is poised to become 15th state to legalize same-sex marriage. the state senate overwhelmingly approved a marriage equality bill tuesday, days after its passage in the statehouse. democratic governor neil abercrombie is expected to sign the measure today after hawaii, illinois will be the next to legalize same-sex marriage with the governor expected to sign his states measure in a public ceremony a week from today. the supreme court has let stand a ruling striking down an oklahoma law requiring women seeking abortions to undergo an ultrasound. the law would have forced women to view the ultrasound image and then have the image described to them in detail. on tuesday, justices refused to hear a challenge to the ruling that barred the law last year. the move came one week after the court also let stand an oklahoma
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court ruling striking down oftrictions on the pill form abortion. republicans have blocked yet another a president obama's judicial nominees with the senate filibuster. georgetown law professor nina pillard would have been just the sixth woman to serve on the u.s. court of appeals for the district of columbia. she's also the third straight female nominee blocked by republicans. republicans had a past comments arguing that reproductive rights strengthen gender equality. several democrats say the move could prompt a new showdown over a senate filibuster rules. president obama has tapped government lawyer to met the cftc head.he if confirmed, he will replace gary gensler in january.
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a proposed merger between american airlines and us airways has one justice department approval, paving the way for what would be the world's largest airline. the airlines reached an agreement with federal regulators just two weeks before scheduled trial. under the deal, the two airlines would give up dozens of takeoff and landing slots at several major airports to lower-cost carriers. the pack still needs approval from the federal district court in d.c. in the judge overseeing americans in group c case. if approved, more than 70% of the airline passenger business would fall under the control of four airlines. those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. outrage is growing in the detroit area over the killing of her nation mcbride, a 19-year- old african-american woman. in the early hours of november second, mcbride was shot dead on the front porch of a man's home
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or she had reportedly gone to seek help after a car crash. on tuesday, local media aired audio of a dearborn heights police dispatcher who simply stood best to get the shooting after the homeowner called 911 to say he had shot an african- american woman he did no one is porch. >> units responding. we have the male on the line, saying he doesn't know this person. trying to get further. quick somebody down on the porch. it appears to be a black female. >> copy. like female. >> the homeowner told police he believed renisha mcbride was trying to break into his home, but he claimed his gun accidentally fired at her. the homeowner, who is white, has not been arrested. and not tops revealed mcbride
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was shot in the face by shotgun, but not a close range. the bride's family says for niche is suffered a concussion in the car accident and was seeking help. the car accident occurred just before 1:00 a.m. at 4:45ting occurred a.m. an attorney for the mcbride family told the detroit free press he doesn't believe the homeowner killed mcbride by accident. >> very, very, very hard to believe it was an accident when the gun is in her face and it goes off accidentally. somebody had to have their finger on the trigger. he was in a safe place. he was in his house. he didn't have to open the door. he could've called 911 to protect himself. if she was seeking help, he could've called 911 to get her help. i don't think this is justifiable. i don't think this is accidental. >> any observers have compared renisha mcbride stepped to the shooting of trayvon martin. on friday, supporters rallied in detroit. >> renisha mcbride.
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renisha mcbride. renisha mcbride. it doesn't make sense why he is not here locked up on some sort of charge, murder, manslaughter, whatever. it is not just. why is he still at home? >> it could have easily been me. >> every life and are committed to you is valuable. life in our community is valuable. ,he fact of the matter is renisha was trying to seek help and gets a bullet in her head. clark's i'm sick and tired of seeing black women martyred, raped, beaten, shot, and nobody talking about it. in thek of the apathy community, sick of the apathy and the media. enough is enough. where is this man? who was he connected to? why don't we know who he is?
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>> for now we are going to detroit, michigan, where it joined by dawud walid, the executive director of cair. we're also joined by dream .ampton, a filmmaker she is a campaign consultant with moms rising, million-member plus organization that advocates for family economic security. we reached out to cheryl carpenter, the lawyer for the homeowner, and to the dearborn heights police, but neither return our request for an interview. we want to welcome you both to democracy now! dream hampton, what do we understand the story is now? rocks that is part of the problem. the dearborn heights police oppositet has been the of transparent. we're calling for transparency on this case. we have been calling for transparency. i find it problematic the media
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continues to refer to ted way for as a 54-year-old -- >> your naming him. that is the name of the man who shot her? local voice of detroit, a paper, named him four or five days ago. you are reporting the homeowner, the 54-year-old homeowner shot renisha mcbride. records show that homeowner is 54-year-old ted waifer. i think he does not deserve and indemnity. you is neither a minor or a rape victim. i'm not accusing you of tried to collude with the dearborn police, but i have not seen media protect the shooter in this way. even if it were an accidental shooting. when accidents are reported, they often name names. i find that problematic from the outset. it just indicates the opec way
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that the dearborn heights police department has dealt with the public from the outset of this tragic killing. >> and what is the explanation for this man not being arrested? >> his whiteness is the only explanation i can come up with. justification. de facto. we know the dearborn police, dearborn heights police department is an all white police force. i've no idea what the conversation was when they --ived at is porch at 4:40 5 hours after it it appears -- this is the latest that we got this call yesterday, the 911 dispatch was released. from herrlier reports autopsy that she died at 2:45. we have a call coming in from 911 dispatch at 4:45. what happened in those two
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hours? thatve reports initially her family was told her body was dumped. this could be a of us could ima. i believe in 19-year-old unarmed teenager in gun down, being shot in the face in the middle of the night on someone's porch seeking help is tragic enough. >> i would like to turn to comments made by cheryl carpenter, an attorney for the homeowner, who spoke to michigan radio. >> there was a lot of banging. there was a lot of noise and it didn't sound like just knocking. this is a tragedy for everybody involved. the homeowner is completely torn up. he realizes another persons life was taken. it was a young woman. and he is devastated by that fact. >> dream hampton, that were cheryl carpenter, the attorney for the homeowner. could you clarify, has the homeowner even been charged? >> no him a the homeowner has
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not been charged. the homeowner was an even inconvenienced with a trip to the precinct to explain what happened the night of relation mcbride's killing, in the precinct. it is unfathomable we have to show up at the police station are self, 100 of us, and demand for insperity, demand an arrest. we are responsible for the .ischarge of our weapons just as we are responsible for our vehicles. this would be manslaughter. if it truly is an accident. this man should come forward. there is no history of revenge killings. presumed -- that is another presumption of black guilt, that somehow if you release his name and he comes forward and apologizes to the family himself in front of the cameras, that we will hunt him down. i mean, the lack of transparency
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in this case is deeply, deeply troubling. >> there was a toxicology test given to the victim, to relation mcbride's body, but ted waifer is not tested? is that the case? >> unless the police department produces a toxicology report from that night, which to me would seem to be standard procedure. someone claims there was an accidental shooting at their home, then it seems they would be tested for alcohol or drugs. a toxicology report on relation mcbride's body is more criminalization -- honor nation mcbride's body is more to mobilization on black horses. corpses. >> the florida a&m football player is running for police after an accident and they shoot him dead.
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>> yes, he's a better analogy if we need make one, though i don't think we need to. i think we can deal with were nation mcbride and the life that was lost on its own merits, but blackcriminalization of lac corpses is deeply troubling. we saw trayvon martin's attendance record, whether or not he smoked pot, this teenager criminalized even as she was -- was a corpse. i'm not interested in seeing that happen again with renisha mcbride. -- whoing the prosecutor has a serious reputation -- will do the right thing and bring justice for the mcbride family. a's on spoke about the shooting last week. >> this man just came to the door. she didn't break in his house. she did not break a window.
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porche someone on your and you just start shooting? can you say was accidental? that wasn't accidental. that wasn't accidental. no. half of her face is gone. andave to go and bury her they don't know if she can have an open casket. this is a senseless death. my niece is gone. the way i am feeling, it was racist. you see this black african young lady knocking -- not breaking in her house, not breaking a window , knocking for help. he just killed her. he is out of jail? wow. could i possibly do that? so many knock on my door and i pull out my shotgun and i shoot them instead of finding out what was the problem? would i be standing here? would be in jail with all
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the bars. >> that was bernita spinks. could you talk a little bit about the significance of the occurred inve dearborn heights? explain with a serious light. >> the first thing is people should understand much of detroit suffers from something called hyper segregation, in which people have little to no interactions as we have been designed that way. the city of dearborn heights, which borders one of the blackest areas in the city or in the state of michigan, dearborn heights is about 80% white. there's really no intersection between these communities. they are basically invisible fences between communities in southeastern michigan. to add onto that, there's a history within dearborn as well as dearborn heights of being basically de facto apartheid or the northern jim crow.
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since there's a history of racism and racial profiling that has gone on for decades and decades in terms of law enforcement with people of color. what about kim worthy, the wayne county prosecutor? history withd a kim worthy, both positive and negative. i will say in the case of the michigan imam killed about three years ago by the fbi, shot 20 times, an african-american, kim worthy refused to go forward and investigate that case because the fbi refused to turn over certain information that prosecutor worthy wanted, which then it got kicked up -- the case got kicked up to the michigan attorney general at the time, a republican, who acquitted and found no
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wrongdoing by the fbi. michigan, we have a wrongful death suit right now. we are hoping prosecutors worthy will do the right thing in this case. but it is noteworthy the dearborn heights police department had also not given prosecutor kym worthy all of the information that she needs in order to level the right charges . this is the important part of civil rights organization and advocates that we continue to talk about this case and educate, and we want kim worthy to not take this case up to the michigan attorney general because we are afraid if he gets the michiganof attorney general, he may not file charges at all. if this was indeed an accident, which i think it was not an accident, at the least, this man should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.
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if it is accidental, as he claims. there has to be some sort of criminal liability in regards to this case. >> dream hampton, michigan has a the -- has a law similar to floor to stand your ground law. >> the self-defense act in 2006, michigan is a quiet testing ground where the conservative think tanks are back touring this kind of conservative policy . we saw what happened with governor snyder when he basically stripped unions of all rights to negotiate very quietly during what was supposed to be on holiday season in session. as he dreamed defenders, we are willing to look at -- dream defenders in tallahassee, agitated and saddened and organized to have a hearing to repeal stand your ground in
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florida. we find ourselves in reactionary positions when it comes to these laws because they are back doored into legislative sessions that are near linked up. at the self- look defense act and consider repealing it, that is something we absolutely will do. first, we want justice for renisha mcbride. >> thank you for being with us. the florida legislator did just uphold the standard ground law. it is certainly controversial. dream hampton is a writer, activist, phil maker from detroit, currently directing a documentary about a brutal murder of a 19-year-old trans woman. she's also campaign consultant with moms rising javad case for family economic security. thank you so much to dawud walid , executive director of cair michigan, the council of arab islamic relations. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we will be back in a moment.
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>> this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. >> we turn to a story of life and death that intersects with 20 or so failed policy. dave pierre had been living in the u.s. for more than a decade we went to pay a traffic fine in 2009 and was arrested for illegally entering the country. he was first sent to prison and then placed in immigrant detention, or he spent the next three years seeking his release and fighting his deportation. he wrote letters to anyone who would listen, including democracy now! for documenting in 1144 days he spent
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detention centers in county jails from alabama to pennsylvania. >> been on october 25, just two weeks ago, dave pierre was suddenly told he was free to go. this came after a fellow immigrant from antigua, 35-year- carlos, committed suicide at the york county jail in pennsylvania where there are both being held, along with about 900 other immigrants. after many calls in the past year to our producer renée feltz come on tuesday, dave pierre joined democracy now! in person, talking about how his newfound freedom may be related to his villa detainee suicide. we're also joined by abraham paulos, the executive director for families for freedom. we invited someone from immigrations and customs enforcement to join us or provide comments, but they did not respond to multiple requests. i began by asking dave pierre by first came to the united states. >> i came to the u.s. with my mom when i was two years old, came to new jersey.
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got a trade, and to new brunswick. i got caught up into the street life. i had a conviction in 1991 in which a prison. i got deported. while i was in antigua, they just detained me. because mycame back son's mom had a drug addiction and the kids were on the street. so i came back to take care my family. when i came back, i got caught up again in the streets and went to prison. in 1997, i was released. was since 1997 to 2009, i clean. no problem with the law, no issue with anything. in 2009, march 11, i went to take care of a traffic violation in new jersey and that is when immigration came down and detained me. they were looking for me.
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that is when i was indicted for reentry. i went to the federal court in new jersey, trenton, new jersey, and the federal judge was kind of confused because her statement of i had been there for so long with no criminal activity, the reentry was kind of impossible. anyway, i got 18 months for that. most of that was in the county. then i went from there to federal prison in pennsylvania. september 7, 2010, my time was up. immigration picked me up at that time and i have been in immigration detention since i was released two weeks ago. >> even though your time was up the year before? >> my time was up and they were trying to remove me back to my country. before,at was removed they figured it would be easier,
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which it is not, because 20 years ago is different than now. a birth ago they needed certificate a pitch on a plane, not any more than the per certificate. i never lived in the country for the documents. i keep fighting my case. i fight my case is much can with no attorney. 2011. my case in a judge in york, pennsylvania, told me i could not appeal the situation. i was like, why can i question mark so i peeled it anyway. they remained at the case back to court. ever since i repeal the judges decision, that is what my transfers began. to seven detention centers in 25 days. ,ork pennsylvania to louisiana louisiana to alabama. i was taken to alabama by bus on a sunday by myself. no one else but me. , to alabama.
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thursday was transferred back to alabama on the bus -- >> back to louisiana. >> back to louisiana. from louisiana i went to the federal penitentiary, oakdale. everywhere i go, like every two or three days, packed it up, you're leaving. i question to the officials, why am i being transferred so much? i was told by several ice officers i got caught up into the transfer. >> i want to ask you about tiombe carlos who died in to held for nearly three years despite her well- documented mental illness. she was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at the age of 15. physicians for human rights verified that in 20 11. the recommended intense medical
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treatment and also suggested she be put in the care for family, but she wasn't, and committed suicide. did you know her in prison? >> they separate the female and male's, but i have been imprisoned for so long, other individuals tell me about her situation. what i know about her, she attempted suicide before. immigration didn't pay attention. attempt.the second the first attempt they did it, they caught her and were like, ok, stop it. he removed her from that situation. they put her by herself again. this time when she tried it, she succeeded, which is kind of a sad that she h to get out of detention that way. she been in detention for over 600 something days, just as i am. when i asked about this -- when they called me to get released, i was shocked. , you'red, mr. pierre
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leaving. i said, why? by already no -- know what happened. it takes for her to commit suicide for them to take a look at my situation to have me released him a which is not fair. >> and they just released you unconditionally? you can stay in the country? >> i have to report to the virginia office. the guy looked at the paper and didn't say a word to me. you said, i will see you next may, may 20, 2014. that's it. >> do you face deportation? >> they didn't tell me what is going on with the deportation. they haven't told me if i will still be deported. thedy has talked about situation. >> neither you nor tiombe were being held on criminal charges.
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but your help for more than three years. >> more than three years and attention. >> did they explain why her suicide would have you released? >> it opens an interesting topic. why did tension? why do we have to be in detention for this long for someone to take their life? uncalled for. >> which leads us to the did conditions in these detention centers for -- which leads us to the conditions in these detention centers. she even mailed a sandwich to show the kind of food y're being given. talk about the condition. >> ever did tension i go to is different. mailed, ihich i mailed a from alabama. is terrible. i will keep it as raw as i can. it is terrible.
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in york county prison, they give you one meal every day. in the morning. every morning. eggs every morning. they don't change it at all. >> but you have three meals. >> yes, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. it is basically the same thing over and over again. not warm, but ice cold. no microwave over there. in louisiana, the food was a little better because it was warm post up in new jersey, that is the detention center, the treatment was different. >> so some are immigration detention facilities were people have committed criminal acts, .hen some are jails >> yes. i was mixed with county people. ida cellmate in county durham 40 years for murder or child molesters -- i had a cellmate in
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county doing 40 years for murder or child molesters. >> can you talk about your county, the jail there, and what the conditions were like? the reports of guards hitting prisoner gets prisoner. >> yes. they called it the retarded olympics. >> who calls it that? >> the guards that work there. they givee name you, the retarded olympics. the unfortunate ones that don't have any commissary, nobody visits them, fight each other for food, etc. the officers got suspended for that. the investigation is still going on. county, there have been county attempts --
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people's car such as detainees. days like every 30 to 60 there's a code, someone committed suicide. >> can you talk about the effect on your family? you have six children. >> i have six children, 2 in the military. parks where are they serving? >> one is in texas right now. she did 2 tours. my other is in the navy. no telling where he be out. he was with his mom in florida. my kids wonder why i'm being held in detention for something i did 20 something years ago. clark's abraham paulos, can you give us the big picture that dave pierre is drawn first in his own case as he traveled from one prison to another, ultimately released because of fellow and keegan prisoner who had also not committed a crime was detained for three years, committed suicide. pre-k's i think the big picture
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here is legislation that was passed in 1996 it started this language around mandatory detention. and what that is is if you're considered an aggravated felon, which doesn't have to be aggravated or a felony, for immigration purposes, what this does is it puts in the category , it wasu don't get bond in a category where you have to stay locked up while your whole case is going. >> what you mean an aggravated felon? >> it could be a categorization that immigration puts out there that could almost be anything. anti-6, there's an terrorism death penalty act, and immigrant responsibility act, the ira ira. deportable crimes. one was like this demeanors, is the best way to put it, in the criminal legal system, then you
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have an aggravated felon. that means if you have done time over 364 days or something under the act to consider violent or i would say dangerous, dangerous crimes, they don't really explain it and it is quite vague. the impact of being an aggravated felon means you will be subjected to mandatory detention, which is what dave went through for years. and couldn't get bond. a lot of this time, why that is there, we don't really know. we think it is arbitrary detention is the best wato explain it. >> even though you served two years in jail for drug offense, still, a decade later, he is picked up, more than a decade later? in 1980 six they made a retroactive, so doesn't matter if you committed a crime after the legislation had passed, they can go far back as the 1970s,
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the 1980s, the 1990s. you could almost do maybe a month in jail and serve your sentence, let's say was for a sale of a controlled substance and you may have gotten parole or probation, they can still , raid youright now house at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning, take you and have you under mandatory detention. >> talk about what happened to tiombre. >> my heart goes out to the family. especially what she is contrary throughout her whole life. case, dave was the one who told us about her. he told was the root was this woman we may want to look into -- you told us there was this woman we may want to look into. was she was in need of some intensive support and care due to her mental disability. we think the tiombre carlos case is not unusual.
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it was unusual it came to our desk, but we think there are many people with mental health problems languishing in detention centers. was mandatorily detained and had been detained since february 2011. >> what would immigration reform ,ook like at the national level the dreamers who have been protesting, the young people? >> i think the migration reform on the national level, i think there needs to be a separation between the criminal legal system and immigration system. as society we have entrusted this criminal legal system to say, hey, look, you paid your debt to society and this is your sentence. right now we're looking at noncitizens getting practically sentenced to life, which means they cannot come back to the united states. i would say that would be the biggest thing would to separate the criminal legal system from the immigration system. and repealing the laws of the
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1996 legislation. what has been put out there right now is immigration reform is only adding to the 1996 laws, only adding more enforcement, more sort of convictions that would lead to deportation. >> families for freedom is asked for in a valuation of what happened with tiombe carlos. >> in the beginning when they wrote their notice for the offices that are going to look into the suicide all come from immigration customs enforcement. what we're saying is we want an independent investigation outside of those that were supposed to take care of her, because we saw how that worked out. >> dave pierre, what is immigration reform look like in this country that would satisfy you? >> to satisfy me in on the immigrants in this country, we just need an opportunity. we just need a better system. the system is broken.
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it is broken bad. i witnessed three years and attention. it is broken bad. it needs to be fixed. >> how does it feel to be free? >> it is wonderful. [indiscernible] it is wonderful to be free. it seems good. i want to let everybody know my situation, my story. i hope for the next person that goes after me, won't have to go through the same thing that i wentthrough and tiombe through, to take a life just to get released. >> that was dave pierre who spent three years in immigration detention centers in county jails from alabama to pennsylvania, candidates country when he was two years old from antigua all stop you raised six children, 2 serve in the u.s. military. he was released two weeks ago after fellow immigrant to minute suicide at the york county jail
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and pennsylvania where they were both being held. ,e was joined by abraham paulos and we will continue to follow the case. we will be back in a moment as sharif abdel kouddous joins us just back from cairo, egypt. stay with us. ♪ [music break]
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>> this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. whereturn now to egypt, the government said on tuesday to slip in the country's three- month state of emergency nighttime curfew. the decision was prompted by court ruling and was announced today that a schedule. morsi was egypt's first of the credit they like to president and was ousted by the military in july following widespread demonstrations against his rule. he is currently on trial for allegedly inciting the killing of protesters outside the presidential palace in 2012. >> egyptian human rights activists have expressed fear the country's interim government is on the verge of approving after connie and protest law
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that will severely restrict the right to organize demonstrations. to talk more about the situation in egypt, were joined by sharif abdel kouddous, independent journalist and democracy now! correspondent based in cairo and a fellow at the nation institute. a lot is happening now. morsi appears in court and will be charged for the killing of protesters, yet the vast majority of the killings massacres have taken place under the current government. >> right, morsi appeared for the first time a public last week in the first hearing of his trial raise being charged in the incitement of killing of 10 protest. i think many groups think morsi should be put on trial for crimes committed under his rule. these are not political violations, but criminal offenses for the incitement or the allowing of police and his supporters to kill protesters. the problem is, there -- this is a selective prosecution. the killing of close to 800 dayle by far the bloodiest
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in egypt's modern history, was committed august 14 and prosecutors are not even investigating the case. the military and police are the ones responsible for those killings. there are different leaders who are responsible for different crimes, but it is a very selective prosecution. >> why is morsi's trial been adjourned to -- until january? >> he was held incommunicado since july 3, moved to a prison outside alexandria. a team of lawyers and his son met for the first time. apparently, he is going to take on a legal team before he refused to recognize the legitimacy of the court. >> and he could face the death penalty if convicted, correct? >> wife imprisonment and the death penalty is what he faces. what isou talk about happening in the aftermath of these massacres that have happened? >> you been under a state of
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emergency for the past three months. a curfew that severely limited movement and hurts the livelihoods of millions of egyptians has been imposed. we appear to be heading to a more aggressive authoritarian order than the one we rose up against in 2011. some buried or conan laws have been put forward. there is ash some is very draconian laws have been put forward. it would give the police basically carte blanche to ban all protest. it does not allow protesters to come near any government buildings. it requires protest organizers to submit their plans to the police before protesting. this is been put forth by government they came to power largely on the back of political protest. it is important to remember in egypt their little ways to petition the government right now. free speech is being cut off in a real way. there are still active discussion on any aspect of state policy. that is why protest is such an
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important aspect of egyptian political culture, and they're trying to cut it off. >> is this protest loss post a stand-in for the state of emergency? is that why it is occurring now? >> it was limited on the same day. egypt has been under state of emergency cents tober 6, 1981. it was briefly lifted in february 2012 and put back in place. more super the state of emergency at port canal cities. for the time that we did not have it, and not much changed on the ground. the police have long acted with kennedy in egypt. they use these wider powers to really crackdown on the muslim met -- muslim brotherhood. >> i want to turn the comments made by president morsi. in this amateur video released by egypt's newspaper, morsi is seen speaking to unidentified individuals during his incarceration, criticizing the country's judiciary. how is it possible i have
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come in front of the court and then freezes the constitution. this is something no law or logic can understand. the reason for him being in his position as head of court is because of the constitution itself. so when he accepts to freeze it, how can his position as head of courts still be applicable? i was the want to appoint the head of the constitutional court. how can a minister of mine in the defense minister, who are both under my responsibility, a point the head of state? and they say there is law. impossible. the head of the supreme constitutional court, with all my respect him, put himself in a position that is very offensive to the judiciary. >> those comments made by also president mohamed morsi in amateur video released by al-wa tan newspaper. can you talk about his comets and the constitution being rewritten?
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>> he is pointing out in issue the judiciary and legal proceeding, i mean, morsi last are in november must exactly a year ago, issued a declaration that place all the presidents decisions outside of the reach of the courts. coppers a move seen as mines in legitimacy of his rule and sparked the first major residency.gainst his for him to talk now but the judiciary in the courts of the rule of law is circumspect at best. however, we need to remember egypt has a very politicized judiciary. it is a complicated issue. there's a 50-member committee redrafting or rewriting a new constitution. this is a committee made up of 50 members that includes no members of the muslim brotherhood and just one member who can be identified as representative of political
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forces from the ultraconservative party. there's been a lot of public discussion about the rights of prerogatives of judiciary and the military in the constitution. the military is trying to enshrine its supremacy in the national charter, including allowing to put siblings o military trial. for the first time discussions about complete unity for the defense minister. the president can appoint a defense minister only after the approval of the supreme council of the armed forces and cannot fire him unless with the approval of the supreme council of the armed forces. >> could you say something about the way which the military is now perceived in egypt, the way it is depicted in the media? then talk about the relationship between the u.s. and the egyptian military. >> the military's enjoying widespread popularity. i think is successfully co-opted movement against mom and morsi, against the muslim brotherhood. this is the real danger, and learned -- and learn how to co-
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the movement. nationalistic chauvinistic flag-waving going on. it is a problem because a lot of the same grievances that can give rise to revolution can also give rise to this kind of nationalism and a must fascism. it is a very fine line. we're seeing a shift toward that direction. but there are still people on the ground, activist, who have rejected the authoritarian nature of the state wetherbee mubarak, morsi, sisi. >> might he run for president ,sisi? >> that is a big question. there's a growing movement for people calling for him to run. all of the so-called role politicians have publicly supported the idea of him running. if you as president, i think would eradicate even the
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slightest pretense of sibling democratic rule in egypt. however, the argument against him running is why government he can just rule? the president will take responsibility for the deep economic and social problems he is facing right now, and he might not want to take that on board. >> but the millions of people who protested in turkey are against mubarak were certain to not just the muslim brotherhood, and they were protesting authoritarianism, brutality. so where are those people now when these massacres have taken place? egypt, you know, the military and the muslim brotherhood has acted as to juggernauts in politics. they're both characterized by patriarchy and secrecy and they both are to part egypt's social fabric as they struggle for power. i think a lot of groups felt pushed out of this discourse
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when these 2 juggernauts came to a clash to ahead. morsi and the brotherhood alienated people across the political spectrum, encouraged her brutal security sector. they encouraged the killing of protesters. so when parts of the deep state, the police and the army that they try to placate, really tried to bring them on their side to be part of the elite and harness the state instead of reform it, when as elements turned on them, there is no one standing by them. people have been watching the killing and condemned this level of violence, but is is a very collocated in difficult situation right now. >> sharif, thank you for being with us. we look forward to talking to you when you go back to cairo, sharif abdel kouddous, democracy now! correspondent, fellow at the nation institute. this is democracy now!,, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. >> i just want to say, congratulations to my friends engagement in egypt. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by
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tavis: good evening from los angeles. tonight come a conversation with grammy-winning singer steve gyro -- steve tyrell. the songs of semicon. he will perform two of the most endearing. glad you have joined us, conversation from steve tyrell coming up right now.
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>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. tavis: grammy winner steve tyrell is introduction to popular moves -- popular music started at age 19. burts already working with bacharach. he went on to work with bonnie raitt before striking out as a performer in his own right.
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his latest cd is called "it's magic, the songs of semicon. kohn."ammy a little sneak review you did to this before the record even drive. >> last year. it was this semi-con -- it was the sammy kohn centennial. he was a great writer. nominatedll, he was 27 times for the academy awards, which is unbelievable. people wouldthat ask him what comes first, the music or the lyrics? he would say the phone call. [laughter] that is where he got his inspiration. five golden globes, just an amazing lyricist. year.xtending that this i am about to start my ninth year at the café carlyle. last year, i did sammy's theme
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all year. willl call my word -- i call my show "wordsmith." tavis: run some names. >> hal david, nobody talks about how david game one of the points -- about how david. david.l one of the points i want to bring out is that most of the time the writers are overlooked or they get confused as to who did what. i am going to do a couple of songs from my friend carol king. people will say she wrote the best female songs of all- time. ♪ you make me feel ♪ you make me feel like a natural woman ♪ ♪ will you still love me
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tomorrow? ♪ her husband wrote those lyrics. she wrote the music but he wrote the lyrics. dorothy fields was fantastic. she wrote "the way you look tonight." she wrote like 400 songs or something. so i will get into all of that this year. and then there were some people who wrote both, like cole porter. wasn't born ine a poor family in the lower east side or in brooklyn. was from indiana. >> you messed up my joke. [laughter] i was going to say that he is from peru, indiana. tavis: i know the cole porter story. michael jackson, of course.


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