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car. make streets safe and attractive places to walk. that addresses the issue of tearing down the central freeway. the pilot of plans that they specifically call for it is doing improvements to the sidewalks to make the pedestrian and the environment more inviting. creation of new public gathering spaces. improvements to the bicycle infrastructure and the transit as well as parking policies that encourage use of transit and make better use of public space and discourage car use. since the plan has been implemented, we have seen several of these improvements made where there are more bike lanes in the area.
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they can convert this to a gathering spaces such as 17th and market street. the brt is in the works. on haight street and the rerouting of buses is in the works. we are talking about congestion pricing. san francisco cta is doing a study to look at circulation studies around octavia boulevard. there are some parking management strategies that have been implemented. we are still a long way away from our goals. a lot of things need to be done. our neighborhood is still inundated with traffic.
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this is on market, and hayes. our residential streets are becoming inundated with traffic such as lou do not end buchanan. we are experiencing a lot of road rage, a lot of honking. i had an experience when i was walking my dog at laguna and paige. i was attacked by a road race driver and i was sent to the hospital for walking my dog. parking ratio maximums have sometimes been ignored. we really have to stick with those parking ratios. i think every parking space has added to this neighborhood compromises the plan. we have to think carefully about adding more cars and parking to
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this neighborhood. we can take the development. when people bring their cars, it is a disaster. not only for our neighborhood, but for everybody that traverses the neighborhood. you go to peach street and it is loaded with cars getting ready to get on the freeway. hundreds of pedestrians have to dodge cars from filmore to octavia. there have been severe muni cuts. we have a long way to go. we understand that because of the economic downturn, there has not spent as much development as we expected. we do not have the community improvement money. we have to be ready when that development comes on line. we have to have these improvements.
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paige street needs to be a bicycle priorities straight. we have to improve muni. thank you very much. >> in many ways, this is an extension of the staff presentation. i think we will go to public comment. >> commissioners, it is such a pleasure to be with you again today. i want to commend our colleague who has guided this for 2 years through our deliberations. the code requires that monitor reports on long-term projects include recommendations on the growth. this was included to make a report relevant. when the project is completed,
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rather than a significant improvement meeting temporary conditions, one might produce a limited plan from the earlier period when it was conceived. all agencies dealing with the visionary growth of the city, this cac and all future ones should understand the citywide perspective so as to benefit from the comprehensive compound and the fact of the multiple large-scale neighborhood plans, by that i am referring to the 10 projects you have just heard about in the sustainable communities report. we should all be carrying forth the same vision coherent play. this will impact the plans of the area and in the second section of our report, which list several of these new trends. our city has numerous plans being implemented to generate resources.
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it is cheaper to reduce and conserve energy than to produce it. they should not meet the minimum current standards, but exceed maximum ones. we should have neighbors insulate before generating power. those surrounded by water, we must recognize it as a precious resource. drain water can be used rather than flushing it into sewers. they can be piped into our systems for fire prevention. we must raise the bar to use our resources. card sharing. in the decade since the inception, the citizens have adopted car sharing on commercial and personal, which is easily accessible. since this produces private car ownership from one to 20, we must ensure that they include sufficient spaces throughout the area.
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they had five gas stations. all but one are designated for high-rise developments. since electric hybrid plug and cars have proved themselves and us significantly reducing consumption, we have to realize that fueling stations whether it be liquid natural gas, hydrogen, whenever fuels need to be incorporated into, not the city does not envision eliminating all cars. finally, bicycles. they are 80 polluting, healthy alternative to mass transit. this includes but manual and electric cycles. as long as they can proceed safely without endangering pedestrians and be protected from automotive vehicular traffic. these areas are advantageous for cyclists. to protect these people, we
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should it swap parked cars and bicycle lanes. protecting cyclist from doors opening. we should provide dense and secure parking. we should implement our local air regional bicycle sharing programs that have been investigated for a number of years. they can be a leader in all aspects of cycling. for the city to develop organically, coherently, and comprehensively, all major city developments should leverage one end of her -- one another's leading concepts. >> i would like to open it up for public comment. is kevin still here? he stepped outside? >> i would like to speak a little bit about affordable housing.
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i live at market and delores before all of the development coming through the pipeline. there is the whole foods, 86 units. across the street, there is 100 units going in. i am telling you this because i am an artist. i am an art teacher. i could not live here without being in a rent-controlled flat. when they went to $1,800 a month, there is no way i could have stayed. i am in a school where they do not have artists. without the ability for someone as myself to live here in the city and afford a place, you are
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not going to have the diversity that you need to have this city run in a way that is functioning at a high level. ragwort a playground for the rich, but that is what is happening. there is not one of affordable housing place going into the development. my concern is for the city to see that full development and for you to be aware of this. this is how i would imagine this. i wanted to speak to you. >> i am going to speak on item 13 and strategically speak on 12 right in the middle.
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>> i know your director will be seized once again. this is not the first time we have made this proposal. perhaps the fifth, sixth, or seven times as the charm. i hear everybody's frustration with the situation that we all face, having to think regionally and act locally with no resources. there is an action that you can take that will send a great message to the region and hopefully to the national level. that would be to start winking your decisions on approval projects on availability of resources for transit, communities and in for structure, and for affordable
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housing. we will be proposing three amendments to the affordable housing element in the implementation state -- implementation section. the station has changed when you guys are required to do. you will be required to do quarterly reports on how you are achieving your goals. i would ask that there be real- time monitoring of affordable housing reduction. each time you come, you are given a packet by staff on a housing development. you are given the running total of how close you are to the goals and what the approval of this project would mean. you are hearing a total asymmetric nature of affordable housing. this will keep it obvious to you and hopefully to the public. there should be a linkage between affordable housing and market rate housing.
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if we are out of compliance with rena, you should stop approving the of market raced development. -- rate development. you ought to start improving market rate and affordable housing development. until that infrastructure investment is made. am i talking absolute insanity and craziness? i am saying good night approved market rate for affordable housing. i am talking about hard, practical politics. the only way we are going to begin to address the needs that we have is if we have the private sector development community on our side. the way you get them on your side is to make shorure that thr
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projects are approved. that is to get back the public sector commitment, including the commitment for revenue. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioners come mark from the north mission. 299 valencia, shame on this commission, by going above the five to one parking. are you trying to kill us? i am asking as a bicyclist. this had more input than the eastern neighborhoods. they called for the freeway to be torn down. tear down this freeway. it has got to be torn down. if you to do it yourself, it would be great. >> we have conserve the exact same kind of equity. we are taking a hit on that.
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mr. welch said that you guys are not going to do it because they have too much money coming at them from developers. we have got to go to the ballot and make it so that you do not have a choice so that when they do not proceed to a pace that interim controls are triggered. when they expire, secondary controls are triggered. that is what it is going to take. the economics and politics are just not in place for you to do the right thing. what you are doing the signing a death warrant for the transit system. when we put in eight to one parking, that is next to the mission street lines. when people go out to the ramps, they are contesting that every morning. people say that i cannot wait 20 minutes to get from 16th minutes -- 60 minutes down to south van ness.
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i am going to get in my car as well. take the next steps down to find out what happens in the next few months. this is people reacting to changes. this will actually reflect what happens over the next 30 years. the second issue is there are multiple job centers in san francisco. there is no assumption if you live in san francisco you will work here. over people's job lifetimes, i am not sure about jobs in the private sector, you may have a three-year, five-year job commitment. that could be on the east bay or the city, and as people don't have the luxury of picking and choosing where they worked. we have a policy that makes it
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labor mobile, both by not being bound to a mortgage or relying on one mode of transportation to get them to work. that will take a significant investment. president olague: is there any additional public comment on the market octavia plan? >> i am linda chapman. i will comment on the issue of adding cars with the one-for-one parking which came up on both of these last items. i want to remind you when i came in to testify, i brought in a summary of the traffic study that we had done on nob hill o . it established that one of our
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high-rises with 72 units and 1.5 parking spaces per unit generated more traffic than 10 blocks of single-family homes. this was done by our traffic engineer. i with me today to read to you. in addition, the pattern was so different from the pattern of the rest of the neighborhood in terms of how people traveled. in that building, 80% of the peak hour trips were done by automobile. in our neighborhood at that time, the census data showed overall that 80% of commutes were done either by muni or on foot everywhere, throughout the neighborhood. also in that neighborhood, two- thirds of households had no oldsmobile because there was no parking.
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this has probably changed a bit because there have been some buildings at it, and i am sure that changed a bit. in one sense this track, 90% of houses had no automobile. imagine the change it makes when you bring and a lot of buildings with one-for-ione parking, let alone high-rises. on this small footprint they generated more traffic than 10 blocks of single-family homes. i remind you of these things. we really have the data on that. president olague: is there additional public comment? seeing none, public, disclosed. commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: interesting observations, predictably about tearing down the central freeway. actually, there have been a lot of freeways that have come down. on the surface that sounds like a great idea and it sounds like
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you and have less traffic, blachly san francisco is a conduit through which a lot of people travel -- but actually, san francisco is a conduit through which people travel. that is still part of the route that comes off the freeway. until we find another solution, i don't know we will be able to, because of the traffic will still come in many of them are passing through the neighborhood rather than actually stopping in the neighborhood. that is where most of the traffic comes from, the fact that we are geographically a conduit through which traffic must pass and that will probably always be that way. someday we will find a solution. i am not sure if it is the big day collected boston, but there has to be a way to get the cars through the city. another interesting comment talked about developers providing for at the structure, particularly transit.
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one possibility, years ago, would the privatization of the transit. this is something nobody wants to hear, but realistically this is happening already. i was surprised when they built a new bart station and dublin -- in dublin less than a mile away from where very few people ride it transit anyway. i was complaining to a board director and he said most of it was funded by the businesses and companies near that area to make it successful to the shopping centers, the safeway headquarters, and probably some of the people from the ship branch, although they still have to take shuttles to get there. a lot of that was funded privately, as was the embarcadero station. when it was brought on line, it was brought on line after the embarcadero center was built, and much of it was funded by the
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embarcadero center. as this moves forward, that might be something to look into and figure out if it might actually be beneficial for many of the developments at fault. maybe not necessarily market octavia, but in other parts of the city where that would benefit from having a transit stop, art station, muni stop. they could pay for part of it, and might be interested in it. that is the first thing. in terms of how to pay for the whole transit issue, other than the concept of privatizing it or not, using development as a funding means, i think we are working on collecting fares, which is a good start. i am not sure how we're doing on that, but the other thing that commissioner miguel brought up was redirection of funds into
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the right uses. he talked about what happened in sonoma county where they're adding more lanes to freeways to encourage development in a fight. that is brawl and nothing near there, nobody could walked -- development at an area that is sprawl and nothing near there, nobody could walk. that is a national issue, but we are also talking about it on the state level. things like congestion pricing and higher taxes will drive businesses away and drive away a lot of the customers who come in to san francisco to provide revenue for businesses, retail, and others. i think we need a different solution than that. those are some interesting thoughts, but i think they're doing a lot of good things that market octavia, but there are lots of different people who live there and i think we need input from everybody because not
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everybody will be an agreement on the different things going on there. president olague: i want to thank staff for the presentation, especially working so well with cac. sounds like things are going well, i want to thank the cac on the product approval. we learn from the valencia project what not to do, i guess, so thank you for holding us accountable in that way. i just wanted to say i think it is an indication of how a cac can be effective. i think part of that also is with the amount of time and the effort that you put in. i think it is really good you are willing to spend so much time and effort on this. commissioner moore? commissioner moore: i would echo what president olague said, a
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great example of corrective planning, and i have always been a great admirer of market octavia. unfortunately, not every neighborhood has quite the composition or size as this does. and to the presentation, mr. welch, if you could get some of those things on the ballot, as a planning commission we are not able to implement these kinds of mechanisms, but i would find them helpful, protested early in the concrete we are in -- particularly in the quandary we are in. those mechanisms would be helpful for this city to show what it can do. that would set an example for what other communities may consider, because they have so far stayed away from this discussion. icommissioner sugaya: this has
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been an informational presentation, so there is no action to be taken, but there are a number of recommendations from the cac, fairly specific, that i think the commission may want to look at and consider. at some point, have staph come back. we will have to discuss it first, and i am not sure how the way to do that. president olague: we would probably need another agenda item. to present another recommendation. we would have to have another calendared herring. >> we would be happy to follow- up with you. commissioner sugaya: if we could do that. i think at least the first point that mr. welch presented could be taken to the consideration by staff. commissioner antonini: one other thing, not very good report, --
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one other thing, very good report, but there is an error on tables 3.4a and 3.4b, page 11, talking about units lost. you already know about that? ok. that is the same with city-wide and market octavia, same thing. president olague: commissioner miguel? vice president miguel: yes, those of you who were talking about taking down the southern part of the central freeway, as peter and roblin in particular know, who served together 13 years on that task force, in order to get the section down that we got down, and i would be pleased to be involved in
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something again if that actually had any attraction to it. when that original situation occurred, the concept of housing development in particular south of market was not on the books. it evolved during that time, but after three ballot arguments and 13 years, no one was willing to go back to the drawing board. i think that roblin and peter understand that. i certainly do. so it was not for lack of discussion about it in the later stages. it just became a reality that if you were going to get anything done, it had to be done. so i want everyone who was not
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involved that far back to understand the situation. president olague: commissioner sugaya? commissioner sugaya: one last comment. as the embarcadero was affected by an earthquake, we need a very localized 8.0 magnitude earthquake on the freeway, not damaging anything else, and we will have it down in a minute. president olague: okay, i think -- secretary avery: thank you, this concludes this informational presentation. president olague: okay, we're taking a 15 minute break. th >> commissioners, i just wanted to give you a


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