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and. this is a. story for a series of crimes including terror plots all the accused are in their early twenties and to found guilty facing life behind. police insolvent looking for the misses you set in kill two dogs with a hydroelectric power plant in the republic of qatar. wednesday investigators say poor security may be a time possible. cause of justice in the hague rules kosovo's declaration of independence from serbia was legal spunking feel is a dangerous precedent is being said however the ruling is a non-binding. israel an arab man has been jailed for eighteen months for the so-called rape by deception he persuaded
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a woman to have sex with him by pretending to be cute. next also you talked to journalist and author jonathan koch who says that israel is a regional guly which actually benefits from division. you know. what now i have jonathan cook a freelance journalist and author of three books mr cook thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. you are the only western journalist to be based here in nazareth the largest arab town in israel what kind of different insight does this give you to the conflict as opposed to most foreign journalists who are based in the centers of tel aviv and jerusalem and ramallah at that location itself. tends to select the focus of your work tends to prejudge what the issues major issues here are in the conflict and i think journalists who are based in the normal cities like jerusalem and tel aviv
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tend to assume that the conflict began in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven that it's a product of the occupation of the palestinian territories the west bank and gaza whereas my focus has been based being based inside israel in a palestinian or arab community how do you want to describe it is to see that conflict predates nine hundred sixty seven why do you feel that is all should not be classified as a democracy bearing in mind that the arab community here can vote they can form their own political parties this idea that just because you have voting rights therefore you live in a democracy so superficially it sounds persuasive but actually it's not very persuasive and one of the ways to highlight that is by looking at the very early years the first twenty years of israel's existence when the palestinians inside israel lived under a military government. they couldn't move outside of their communities without a permit from military government government they lived under martial law but during that period they had full voting rights so where they are living under a democracy the question really is how did israel engineer
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a situation where it could give voting rights to its palestinian minority and not feel threatened by me today that there are several palestinian parties but none of them have ever been allowed to serve in the government none of them of held any positions of responsibility what's happened is that you could. only participate in the government if you subscribe to this position which is that the jews are a privileged population inside the country this isn't just about the parliament it applies to many other kinds of spheres of life for them for instance there is no palestinian minority have no control over their schooling curriculum is decided by the jewish majority. it was only revealed a few days ago that for the first time in sixty years sixty years after israel's creation that there would be bus services running to arab communities in your book blood and religion you've accused israel of a long slow process of ethnic cleansing but do you not think the fact that since nine hundred forty nine the arab israeli population as well as the palestinian
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population within the west bank and gaza the fact that those populations have grown considerably doesn't that challenge the theory you put forward well it's grown yes but the question is not just about the numbers it's also a question about where they live and of course there's been a lot of ethnic cleansing going on in the last seventy sixty seventy years as we've seen the population of palestinians being driven further of further away from what israel would want to claim i mean israel hasn't defined its borders so you know the problem is defining israel but this question of where palestinians live of course is crucial to the whole idea of ethnic cleansing and also questions of depending on how you define a genocide there are there on definitions in international law about genocide. and some people would argue that actually what israel is doing qualifies as genocide and whether one wants to adopt that view or not there's very clear issue here about where palestinians are being allowed to live and slowly they've been pushed further
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and further out of their historic homeland to the very margins of it now outside of it and that's a process of very clear cleansing now there's a question of what's going on now you know this is from gaza created whole question about whether gaza was. part of the palestinian people for most israeli jews now they consider gaza to be a separate state that no longer in the occupation even though it's besieged on all sides by israel. and therefore in a sense out of the picture. the question is what israel is planning to do with other palestinian groups it's always in the change the oath upon entering the israeli parliament no longer do members of parliament swear allegiance only to the state of israel but also to a jewish democratic state why do you think this happened what is the significance well this is part of a much wider trend to do with loyalty the will to legislation as the government's now calling it mr mr lieberman's party. the far right party i've already mentioned
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he he he got elected on a plan he's the third largest party in the parliament he was elected on the platform of no loyalty no citizenship and his party has been introducing a series of bills to try and ensure that palestinian citizens have less and less legitimacy within the political system not all of the bills are being passed but but changing the whole discourse in israel now into one in which the assumption is that the palestinians are not loyal they have should have no rights they have to prove their loyalty and so this is very much part of that whole set of the same kind of move you talk about lack of loyalty that we see the elders made member of parliament earnings who are being lost some of her purpose just because she participated in the threat which some israelis felt essentially put her head wall with as well but it's a strange idea that you need to be at war with humanitarian activists to try to bring aid to people of gaza. i think that's a question for all of us we should look at it say what is it legitimate to attack
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in international waters a boat taking aid to people who are you know what according to all the all the surveys taken by by international bodies like united nations are suffering from malnutrition many other things so but for haneen of course it was a very different situation and she's not only doing that as a concern global. citizen but she's also doing it because it's her people she is a member of the palestinian people. as various commentators in the ready media pointed out much more sympathetic ones than that with the new find it most of the parliament for instance but they're suggesting that if if there were jews struggling under the same kind of blockade in the same kind of threats that the people of gaza are suffering under the first thing that israel would be doing all the jewish people would be doing it would be organizing fertility flotillas of humanitarian aid and the idea that they should be attacked militarily would outrage the world and i don't think that there's anything any reason to take a different view in the case of the palestinians you've stated that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu his first term of office was characterized by the deceit of the american president clinton and also attempts to destroy the peace
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process do you believe that the strategy continues now in his second term of office he's saying to a group of settlers he doesn't think he's being filmed he doesn't realize he's being filmed but he tells the this group of settlers exactly what he did in his first term in the late ninety's during the all slow process and that what he did was to deceive bill clinton to give it away very small areas of occupied territory in return for agreements that they wouldn't have to give much larger areas of occupied territories and thereby destroy the whole principle of the overall slow process and of course although he doesn't say it that very much explains the palestinian reaction which led to the second intifada course this palestinians are very aware that netanyahu wasn't giving anything away let's be clear it wasn't just netanyahu of course this this whole process carried on with other prime ministers so the palestinians saw that actually there was no good faith here to the americans were either being deceived or were allowing themselves to be to see that there was no hope of
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a palestinian state ability what we see netanyahu do this time which is so different we've seen him make minimal concessions to the americans after a huge amount of arm twisting by the americans he's almost destroyed the relationship with washington by recruits. his powerful zionist lobby in washington to his to his course so he showed he's very unwilling to make any kind of serious concessions to the palestinians while following on from what you've said is this reason why you say that israel actually once and benefits from the chaos of the middle east well i've argued that israel is in favor of chaos in the middle east partly because. it's following in a tradition of well known colonial tradition of divide and rule one that israel has implemented in the occupied territories the lesson israel learned from that is it's a very effective way of stopping any kind of resistance to your plans the palestinians have struggled to counteract israel's initiatives because they've been so divided.
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it's been a very useful strategy inside israel in the occupied territories you say that the fact that they still have relatively large jewish community around makes you skeptical of the threat that iran poses to israel and you've also ridiculed comparisons between athletic. do you not though think that israel has cause for concern reason to be afraid of a nuclear iran and jewish population in tehran of at least twenty thousand maybe thirty thousand people who are living quite it seems quite happy there when they talk about their lives there they seem to be very comfortable they don't seem to be any signs of that they've been persecuted why would iran not start if it wanted to if it had this kind of racial hatred of jews if the iranian regime was really just a kind of symbol of new hitler regime not nazis why would they not be starting with their own iranian population the reason that israel can't allow iran to have
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nuclear weapons is because if iran developed its own nuclear arsenal it would totally change the balance of power in the middle east at the moment israel has it's the regional bully it has the nuclear weapons it can pull them out as it has done several times in the past most notably during the night in seventy. three war where it threatened the u.s. that it might use those weapons if it wasn't riyadh and that's why the americans had to come in and intervene it has that kind of ability to pressure america and terrorize the rest of the neighborhood if you like because they have nuclear weapons now if iran had nuclear weapons there would be a balance of power there be this mutually assured destruction principle which we may not may not be ideal principle but at least it's something in terms of. counteracting the benefits that israel has as the only nuclear power what is the solution we disappoint to a one state solution i'm support anything that brought peace and gave palestinians and israeli jews the right to live happy contented lives. the question is how do
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you achieve that now some people say you can do it through two state solution i don't actually think that's even technically possible any longer if it ever was we're talking about very small areas of land that would be left to the palestinians nobody's talking about it being a militarized state who control the borders i mean there are all sorts of questions that nobody really wants to look at in any kind of depth at the moment because everybody knows the answers would mean that this wouldn't really be a proper state so i don't think it would end the conflict i think it might postpone it very briefly but we would just end up with the same kind of conflict my argument has been that you almost certainly need to do that in the context of a one state solution doesn't make things simple it's still going to be very difficult but at least you can see that technically it would it would it's possible it could work we're already seeing israeli groups starting to back the idea of one state solution it's interesting that senior members of netanyahu party believe could party the right wing party were actually a forefront of pushing for the idea that palestinians and israeli jews might share
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the land together realizing a some of them have done a pretty size the whole concept that that's very key to the whole left in israel which is the idea that peace will come through some kind of segregation the the argument that some people are making is once you create these bantu stands in the. first one is go as a what you actually end up with is endless war jonathan thank you very much for joining us. wealthy british style. market. to. find out what's really happening to the global economy
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also yacht next the latest sports with you. great to have you with us this is sports today i'm you know neal i'm ves our earth headlines net gain it's been a disappointing year for spartak moscow so far this season but they did at least come out the right side of an eight goal thriller on wednesday night. i skip a the constant the hockey league has released its fixture list for the upcoming season with the opening day throwing up a clinker champions akbar's versus rush up u.h.c. . goals go or a week thirteen in the russian premier league had no shortage of strikes across the country we've got them all very very shortly. it's put side where we began spartak
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moscow have put a three game losing skid behind them to move up to seventh in the russian premier league the red and white surviving a five three goal fest again struggling sabir in a game which the spike the victory monitor of larry carp and call the worst in the past for much is. it would have probably given a completely different assessment of his side before the seventeen minute markets are tucked up a stage with pools from brazilian star ari and seventeen georgian. both players having braces in the game played over from the eleven alexander on to thank you though he didn't develop the fight his diving header putting severe on the schoolboy twenty minutes from time sports lead was then of the moments later check better in thomas' chizik with a free kick for. martin during that he helps your technique gain momentum three minutes later pull number eight then go sit beers with maxine asked yeah of tensions pervy the five three sports. it would. staying with
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football were look to have a bottle in their hands if they want to hold on to star striker keisuke honda the japanese now on the radar of a whole host of english clubs after helping his country reach the last sixteen of the world cup finals in south africa british newspaper the daily telegraph reporting that arsenal and liverpool are evening to snap up one day before at the season the twenty four year old agent confirming the interest but added that c.s. have not received any on three offers the army men will fund it to a four year deal last december peace corps has risen significantly since then however the midfielder school twice in south africa during the winner against cameroon in japan's opening group which. bucked two domestic matters were a week thirteen of thirty in the premier league has now wrapped up zany to still the team to catch leading the way by half a dozen points following their two no win over sabir twenty two goals in all in
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this role and if you missed any at all catch up now it's goals go away. live . live . live
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. talking i saw where the fixture list for the third kontinental hockey league season have been unveiled there is no waiting around for a must see clash the opening day putting together last year's finalists ghar and
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cup holders akbar's on the last season is done a job and a day named united hockey club will meet on the youth of september because i'm not that action then gets under way in february the twenty third all matches in the play all stages will not be best of seven series meaning rest days will be few and far between the leagues expansion continues apace in the form of two new sides from hunting on ceased i'm still ducking and i'd fit live. in moscow hasn't always been the most easiest of places to go jogging clogg streets on the luck of running tracks just some of the difficulties keep fit enthusiastic faced over the years but . reports of that could be about to change. different jol different age different call base but what does unite all that speed boat sail off. however be a pace if you hurdles when it comes to job you go many people just don't understand
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what makes you what makes you know why you're running and why it's right and the fun why should i do. and all this stuff but. once we move the other one monthly you know it's starting to work with the bar with the runners understand that this is not true that this will just you know some thoughts behind you know to change people's attitudes sportswear nike has opened ten running clubs and most of those bars when you athletes can get professional opinion and some wise voice. when you're on the asphalt or in the park there is a big risk of getting injured which we can recommend to all around the same special shoes and give a few tips about this technique the spawn dejan is trying to prove running can be easy and exciting for everyone from the very young to olympic medalists. of course i do most of my running indoors but i enjoy running in parks as well there's a very special atmosphere there and it's easy to agree most go may have some small
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streets but no there is a better chance to get some fresh air and put your feet to water by the rest of our team. finally it may not be the fastest race in the world but for some the snail racing world championships remains a nail biting spectacle welcome to the latest addition to the summer sports silly season one hundred sixty five slimy speedsters entered the competition held in norfolk and only ten would make it into the final one until a challenging a thirty three centimeter force ready steady slope where the keywords with the winner the first reached a circle are falling to sydney this nail his blistering three minute forty one second mark somehow not a global best but it was enough for sydney to claim all the glory the world's fastest snail awarded a trophy stuff full of lettuce for all his hard work. his name sydney and he
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normally lives in the gym he's been training since the early spring and has been put on rocket and wendy. even think about what i came together. when he first sort of woke up after the winter. time i think yes and how do you know he was that well championship. he just had that look about him. he's a chump in all for now but do you log onto r t dot com forward slash sports for plenty more i'll see you soon. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on the. toys which are made to please children. harm their health. should illnesses. merson them.
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