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call 1-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. i'm tamron hall "news nation" is following the latest development in the aftermath of one of the most powerful storms in history. u.s. marines and soldiers are on the ground right now in the philippines bringing relief supplies and helping with the search and recovery effort going on right now. aid workers and emergency officials are warning there's still virtually no contact with some parts of the country since the typhoon made landfall friday. officials are still working to
get a full scope of the devastation. look at these images. more than 10,000 people are feared dead. and about 620,000 others have lost their homes. and general overseeing the u.s. response efforts described seeing bodies as he flew over this region. >> every building is either significantly damaged or destroyed. the streets are all closed. you can see with 15 to 25 foot wave came across entire villages. everything is wiped out. as the the philippine government and forces ask us for support, i've got airplanes and helicopters and airplanes that can look for people in areas that are stranded. >> and much of the country's infrastructure was destroyed by huge waves and winds up to 235 miles per hour. officials are largely now relying on helicopters to rescue those still stranded.
nbc's ian williams is on the ground in manila and joins us by phone. let's talk about the effort. i heard other reports as we reported now, there's some areas that they simply have not been able to reach and here we're looking at days now. >> that's right, tamron. i mean three days after this typhoon struck, rescue workers still not got to some of the more remote areas that were hardest hit by this devastating storm. the problem is communications are still down, power is out and roads are blocked. bridges are destroyed. there's debris still littering the countryside. this is causing a major problem, just assessing the scale of the damage, we see some of the pictures from the air which look horrific. in terms of looking at what's happened on the ground, the needs of people, it's been impossible to make that assessment. in towns like tacloban, there is
widespread devastation, particularly along the coastal areas. that's where the u.s. aid has been concentrated. flying into the airport there which has been reopened to aid flights in the u.s. and philippine military, concentrating on the things that they need most urgently, water, water pure fiction tablets and shelter. and also, gearing a lot of that towards children who are particularly hard hit by this. but the aid effort is only just clicking in. there have been offers of help from throughout the world from the u.s. of course as well as european, asian countries. but the task they face there is really enormous, tamron. >> ian, of course this is based on the ferocity of the storm but also as has been reported, some of the worst roads and infrastructure in southeast asia, adding to the difficulties here. >> yeah, logistics in this part
of the philippines were never easy at the best of times. scattered around, getting around is not easy. and the infrastructure was never great, even before this storm hit. so that has added to the challenges that they face. and a lot of the damage, some say most of the damage was caused by the storm surge, by the powerful waters, 20-foot waves swept in, were except in by the storm. we got bridges down. we've got debris blocking roads. it's -- the airports are closed. it's very, very difficult in an area which getting around was never good at the best of times, now very, very difficult tamron. >> and the storm has been do downgraded but we're seeing flooding in vietnam and south china, is that correct. >> it's been downgraded but still damaging. we've seen 13 or 14 deaths in
vietnam. thousands of people injured. it's weakened considerably from the monster is that swept across the philippines but still strong enough and still continues to pack enough punch to cause a lot of severe -- and also, to china as it continued inland. >> ian, thank you very much for those new details. ahead of the storm, many meteorologists were predicting widespread destruction due to the massive size. this is an image from space capturing full scope of just how wide the typhoon was. joining me now, weather channel hurricane specialist brian norcross, we use the terminology monster storm so often. but when you see the visual from space, it really takes on new meaning when you see the size of this storm. >> it was an incredible storm. it was mother nature's most
amazing storm that we just don't see very often. it's not unheard of. we've seen them in the past. we saw one in 1969 in mississippi, camille. we saw hurricane andrew in 1992. we see typhoons like this in the western pacific, but not very often and the formula here for this total destruction was where it hit. in the philippines, you have luzon at the north, where manila is. typhoons normally hit up there so people moved to the west coast. there's very few people on east coast of the philippines in the north. they don't often hit in middle islands. they have not moved out of harm's way so to speak and that was the formula that made this so much worse. it's an incredible storm in a place where they don't normally get them. some people didn't take the necessary means to -- >> or were unable to. >> exactly. >> brian, at least one article says what appears to set this
storm apart, the ferocity of its winds. talk about the components of what was happening that made all of these pieces come together no this deadly storm that we're seeing the ramifications of right now? >> well, here in the southwestern pacific, the water is warm. it just takes randomness to make the atmosphere be so perfect to make a perfectly round storm. it was really just things coming together. but you combine that with the fact you have a coastline here and this storm is driving water at the coastline. every place there's a little bay that's facing into the direction of the storm, it gets piled in the bay, like a funnel. water get amplified and that's where you get the 20, 25 feet even more of storm surge. they found bodies in trees that had been swept by that water. so it was the combination of the shape of the coast and the strength of the storm. >> brian, i don't want to get into a huge conversation of climate change or debate here. but you have this philippine delegate at the u.n. who now has
started a fast because he feels that climate talks have lacked action as it relates to us discussing global warming and blaming this super typhoon that killed the 10,000 people and counting so far on the inability to move forward with conversations as it relates to these meg astorms. we saw some of this after sandy. the necessary conversation that's needed on climate change. >> well, there's two parts of climate change. one is that as the arctic gets warmer there's more water coming off the glasers and sea level rises. the other is the changing in atmospheric patterns in general with a warmer atmosphere. we know the storm track was unusually far south. they are usually up here going into luzon. last year there was down in the extreme southern part of the country. is this change related to an
overall change in the climate? honestly not sure but the bottom line is climate change is real and we're not paying attention to that. in that sense he was right. >> they've had 24 typhoons this season and obviously nothing like what we're witnessing now. we're continuing to keep the audience up to date. thank you so much. there are many organizations deploying urgent relief efforts to the philippines. we've posted the ways you can help on our website. you can go to our news nation.msnbc.com page. also able to discuss what we're seeing and how this is impacted the conversation on climate change and desire to help others. as we mention the, there are marines helping to distribute some of the much needed aid. coming up, a new light shed on a world war ii mystery. how the childhood memories of a belgium man helped uncover what happened here. incredible story. sarah palin is on her
national book tour. have you heard? she stopped by the "today" show and asked about chris christie. >> hey, new jersey a blue state has a republican governor, right on. beats the alternative. you know, when you stand in the middle of the road you'll get hit on both sides of the road. we need to take a stand. >> we'll going to discuss it later. and african-american students at ucla are sending a strong message about the lack of diversity. their video has gone viral. >> in fall of 2012, the total enrollment graduate and under graduate for african-american males at ucla was 660 students. that's 3.3% of the 19,838 other males enrolled here. >> i will talk with the students who created the video and started a petition to spark change at the university. it's our "news nation" gut
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>> president obama today commemorating veterans day a few hours ago. laying a wreath at arlington national cemetery, the president honoring those who served and sacrificed their lives for our country. first lady michelle obama and vice president joe biden also attending this emotional ceremony. the president promising that the sacrifice of those veterans will never be forgotten. >> there's a risk that the devoted service of our veterans could fade from the forefront of our minds.
that we might turn to other things. part of the reason we're here today is to pledge that we will never forget the profound sacrifices made in our name. >> the president also paid tribute to the nation's oldest living veteran. he's 107 years old. his name, richard oberton. as president obama noted there are thousands of heroes who never made it back from war and their stories often go untold. the world war ii massacre of an all black unit at the hands of nazi soldiers is one of those stories. it took place in a small belgium town near the german border during the battle of the bulge in 1944. towards the end of the war this took place. 11 men were brutally tortured and murdered after attempting to surrender to german soldiers. for years no one knew the whole story of what happened to those americans, not even their families, who had been told they died in battle.
one belgium man who witnessed the events as a young boy, 12 years old at the time, made it his life's mission to let the truth be known and have their stories told. joining me now, regina benjamin. her uncle buddy was eventually liberated by allied forces and military reporter jim michaels who tells the story in a new article in "usa today." it's an incredible article and i wish i could copy it and pass it out and tell people to go online and read it as well. you talk about 70 years later on another veteran's day, the mystery of what happened to the 11 men has started to unravel, revealing a remarkable tale. let's start at the beginning of what happened to them, at least what you've been able to unco r uncover. >> it was this belgium man, hermann linger, now deceased, who witnessed this at age 12.
he went on with his life and putting together his life and so forth. it was really later when he started to get older and retired that he decided to put a cross at the site of where these men were killed in 1944. so in 1994 he put a cross there. and it was really that incident there that started this snowballing of information coming out and then the u.s. military was getting involved and allies were getting involved. now there's a very elaborate memorial there to these men. of course, since then the story has filtered back to the united states. even though the wives and parents of these 11 men really never knew what happened, their children and nephews and nieces -- >> why was that the case? why did the story end up as it's described as a mystery, why weren't they told what happened? there were witnesses. >> there were witnesses and in the army even started a war crimes report.
they could never identify the specific unit that did this and they just marked it secret and stuck it aside. it's a big history why they didn't do it. there was another massacre of more than 80 allies on the same day. that took world headlines. it's still a mystery, was it not investigated enough because these were african-american soldiers? was it a smaller number of soldiers? we don't know. >> it's interesting, jim, in your piece, there was a documentary by joe small, financed a documentary to an amateur historian to tell the story. you're reported in this piece as saying these men, 11 guys deserve to be remembered. how did you first learn about the story? >> well, my uncle was a member of the 333rd battalion and part of that infantry. when i was in elementary school
i did a story on this world war ii and the story of anne frank. he started telling me about this and my mother, his twin sister, veterans would never talk about what happened in the war. he was telling me this. and later as years went by, one of my colleagues, another physician in alabama, dr. lick ten field, started introducing me to herman and it just unfolded tremendously. i had the opportunity to meet herman langer and go there. i spoke at the ceremony and got to sit at the same table that the soldiers ate. i saw the ditch where their bodies were. it was very touching. one of the most emotional things and to be there in my uniform as a three star admiral was really significant as an african-american woman. >> absolutely. he passed away, but as i
understand it, he was surprised by the how the story attracted worldwide attention. even with his dedication and what he saw as a 12-year-old boy and telling the story, jim. >> you know, his family told me that he really put that cross there initially just to sort of quiet his own con shens and what he had seen. it really never went away. he was a 12-year-old boy, very impressionable, herman's father, mathias langer was a pro allies guy. this community was divided between german and allied sympathies, but this langer family was very much pro allies and watched his father bring these soldiers in and give them food and hot coffee without a second thought. this stayed with him his entire life. >> and of course for your uncle buddy and to know this story is being told and your desire to have more people here, how does
it feel today knowing it has gotten a little bit more exposure? >> it's wonderful. even he told me about the fact when the tanks came and rumbled to earth, they spread out and ran. he didn't know what happened to those 11. i was in part of the ama and go to chicago, look up my friend who lives in chicago. i never could find him. it wasn't until we were in germany actually in belgium last year when i met the son of his friend. and my uncle never knew up until this time that his friends were killed. >> amazing. thank you and your family for this service and jim, thank you for this incredible report. greatly appreciate it. still ahead on "news nation" -- >> this isn't an issue about bullying. this is an issue of my and john's relationship where i have taken stuff too far. >> you can call it certainly a strange relationship.
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>> this is an issue of my and john's relationship, where i've taken stuff too far. and i didn't know it was hurting him. if you go by just all of the knuckle head stuff i've pulled -- done in the past, you're sitting there thinking this guy is a loose cannon or racist. i would give him a hug because we've been through so much, dude, what's going on? why didn't you come to me? >> nbc's kerry sanders joins us. jonathan martin will release a video statement sometime this week. what else do we know? >> reporter: there are multiple sources on this. if you step back and speak to a pr professional, they would say that's probably what's needed now is some sort of return because clearly this battle is brewing and it's playing out right on television screens across america and internet computers and phones and everybody listening to what was
about ten minutes but it was really a 45-minute interview with richie incognito who is the only named player who may or may not be involved in allegations of some sort of bullying and perhaps even a physical attack. the only reason richie inkog neelt toe's name is out there because the dog fins re -- dolphins reviewed evidence and suspended him. this investigation may lead nowhere or may reveal there are other players on the team who have already been involved in these alleged bullying incidents, because he has not spoken publicly, this salvo came from incognito back to him, jay glasier, a sports journalist but also a friend of him, actually trained him in mixed martial arts. they definitely have a relationship. when he tried to get incognito to do the interview, that his
guy had told him that he didn't want him to do the interview but jay glazier said he did a heavy sales job, the court of public opinion is definitely the window is closing, you need to speak now. >> back to what richie said. he reportedly exchanged more than 1100 text messages with martin. in one of them just four days after he left the dolphins, he received one from martin saying he was good, that it's insane, referred to him as bro. that he didn't blame those guys but he was talking about the culture around football and the locker room, quote, got to him a little. we are seeing two sides to this story when it was very different. quite honestly all last week. >> incognito said he gave his phone over to jay glasier and there are 1142 text messages that they traded back and forth. a lot of it vulgar and a lot of it very raw. and maybe even depending on how you view it, it could look like they had sort of an abrasive
friendship, according to what jay describes of these text messages. but clearly the last text message is important and all of this is interesting when you consider the nfl has hired an outside investigator. that's attorney ted wells and he is not working against sort of a clock because all of this is working out of public domain and any investigator wants to get a hold of what could be evidence before it's out of the public domain and shape the evidence. he's up against a time clock even though he says there's no deadline for him to reach a conclusion in this investigation. >> thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. >> this week the obama administration will release health care enrollment numbers after last month's rocky rollout of the website. what we can expect. senior political mark murray will join us with the first read on this holiday. secretary of state john kerry heads to capitol hill this week to brief lawmakers on the
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the troubled rollout of the health care website will again take center stage this week. the obama administration is promising to release the first numbers on enrollment although officials have not said exactly when that date the data will be released. meantime, congress will hold two more hearings this week on the rollout and include one by the house oversight committee chaired by darrel issa who subpoenaed the top technology expert to testify. mark murray, are these hearings more of a rehashing of prior hearings already and these numbers again we've been told, they will be low. >> well, yes, i do think the
republicans are trying to score points here and i think if the rolls were reversed you would have democrats trying to hold hearings to show embarrassment for the republican party. so yes, politics is being played. the numbers are going to be very low. there's one reason why it was always assumed that the numbers for october and november would be low compared to december. that is that the insurance doesn't kick in until january 1st. if you are someone interested in getting health insurance on exchanges, you -- it doesn't make a lot of sense to purchase it right now. that insurance isn't good until january 1st. the administration all along was expecting that they would have low enrollment numbers in the month of december. that is why the website is so important to fix. they are going to have this traffic come december, they need a functioning website to get it done. >> and sarah palin is out with a new book and doing rounds promoting her book. and she was asked about the president's health care law and this conversation of repeal had gone away, of course it still
exists but the same problem persists for sarah palin and other conservatives who want it repealed. what do you replace it with. let me play this exchange from "today." >> it's not 5%. it's most americans will not be able to keep the health care policy and programs that they had desired. and the new programs that are being force the down our throat are unaffordable. >> from the tea party over and over again we're hearing no, defund, delay -- >> right on. absolutely. >> what are we hearing from the tea party in terms of absolute realistic plan -- >> it is not just the independent grass roots tea party movement but many in the republican party and democrats too, especially democrats in red states running for re-election -- >> where's the plan? >> running for political cover. the plan is to allow those things that had been proposed over many years to reform a health care system in america that certainly does need more help. >> mark, she didn't say what
those things were and this always brings us back to the beginning of the conversation over health care. is there going anywhere for them? >> tamron, that's right. republicans say we just mentioned they are going to score political points when issa's committee holds hearings regarding this tough rollout for obama care. the republicans don't haval around around tern tif. there are a lot of goodies despite how the rollout has gone. for folks that can have insurance that might have preexisting conditions and young people on their parent's health care, those are things in republican researches haven't been able to have a policy alternative that would also contain that stuff in there. that does show in the long run the republicans box themselves in. yes, we're against this obama care but haven't been able to say what they are for. >> it's interesting you see box themselves in. many wondered if the conservative part of the more conservatives in the party have boxed themselves in and they can
not grow their numbers and cannot win general elections. i want to play what sarah palin said when asked about governor chris christie on the "today" show and interesting point he made as far as outreach for the party while making the sunday morning rounds. let's play both. >> hey, new jersey, a blue state has a republican governor. right on. beats the alternative. >> and when you stand in the mitdle of the road, you get hit on both sides. we need to take a stand. >> if you want to attract a majority of the hispanic vote, if you want to nearly triple your african-american vote as a republican, what you need to do is show up. >> people who are republican will be faced with is she the past and is he the future? >> that's right. i do think those two different parts of the republican party are clearly on the display in the clips there. chris christie represents the more pragmatic side of the republican party. there's no doubt that he's very concerted but willing to cut deals when it benefits him as well as the opposition.
when sarah palin is saying, standing in the middle of the road, you end up getting hit. that recommendation the tea party where we shouldn't be compromising at all. we should be fighting for our principles and even if there's an opportunity where we can compromise to help our side out we shouldn't end up doing that. the republican party is split 50/50 between the two voices, tamron. >> all right, mark, we'll see what happens tomorrow. as soon as we get the numbers in, the number of people enrolled will discuss it. secretary of state john kerry will brief lawmakers on hill this week after talks with iran over the nuclear program stalled over the weekend. the talks in geneva involved the you had, britain, france, and russia and china. at the news conference this morning, secretary kerry disputed reports that the french had delayed a deal. instead saying it was the iranians who stood in the way of an interim agreement. >> there was unity. but iran couldn't take it at that particular moment so hard
work was done and progress was made and p5 plus 1 was united. it was not a race to complete just any agreement. no deal is better than a bad deal i have said many times as has president obama. >> and kerry spouresponded to netanyahu who called the developing deal, the deal of the century for iran. >> the iran gives practically nothing and it gets a hell of a lot. that's not a good deal. >> i believe the prime minister needs to recognize that no agreement has been reached about the end game here. that's the subject. negotiation. the sanctions were put in place in order to bring about a negotiation. nothing is given up in a first step that freezes the program
and even sets it back. >> joining me now, ian herr at northwestern university. thank you for joining us again. >> my pleasure. >> secretary kerry went on to say the time to oppose the deal is when you see it, not to oppose the effort to find out what it is possible basically saying don't put the chicken before the egg here. how do you assess what's happening here, particularly some of the rhetoric from benjamin netanyahu? >> it's ironic. the deal appears to be well crafted between u.s. and iran. those negotiations went well. where it fell apart between the u.s. and france and maybe other allies, the diplomacy isn't between u.s. and iran, it has to be u.s. and france. what is the key component to move the diplomacy conversation if those are the actual facts and the country is behind the stall here, how do you then move it forward? >> yeah, we're not really sure
yet in public what the deal is. we're not quite clear what the holdup is. but it looks like it's kind of two deep positions at stake. one is that the u.s. and iran have been getting along much better recently. for years that relationship was defined by the hard liners on each side who didn't want -- that has changed and that is so much for the better. the u.s. and iran can recognize their mutual interests now. the problem i think is that france is representing the position that says, that you can't trust the iranian government. >> but kerry is disputing these reports that it's the french who delayed this deal. >> yeah, it's hard to know what's really going on. the voices from behind the scenes suggest that the deal was more or less set and france came in and opposed it. maybe kerry is putting on a good face to a diplomatic stall. in the big picture, this is a
good deal, this will get smoothed out and work out better for both iran and the rest of the world. >> it's interesting his overall message, secretary kerry's overall message to critics of the effort is withhold the comments until a deal is reached which is precisely what you're saying. we don't know the intri catcies and details of what's happening there. >> i think what you're seeing are the voices against the deal are the voices who would probably be against any deal at all. those who do not want to reduce the sanctions on iran, regardless of what iran does. i think the more pragmatic position is to recognize if the sanctions are reduced a little bit and concessions can be made on openness for the iranian program, both sides win and it's possible to move onto the next step of even greater reductions in sanctions and even greater controls on the nuclear program. we do have a precedent, remember, south africa gave up its nuclear program entirely by itself when it realized it was
too much hassle to maintain its secret nuclear weapons program. a lot of people think iran might go down that same road, if digin the right incentives. >> thanks for joining us again. >> my pleasure. thank you. up next on "news nation." >> i think there needs to be more support for the veterans. >> how the game of golf has become a form of therapy for some female veterans suffering from ptsd. we'll have the details in a story you'll want to see up next. clients are always learning more to make their money do more. (ann) to help me plan my next move, i take scottrade's free, in-branch seminars... plus, their live webinars. i use daily market commentary to improve my strategy. and my local scottrade office guides my learning every step of the way. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) ranked highest in investor satisfaction with self-directed services by j.d. power and associates.
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maddening. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: how is that fun? because we're doing it all together. and i'm not sitting in my house alone all day every day. >> reporter: which was exactly what war veteran julie zaler zan did, struggling with ptsd. >> the flashbacks, it just -- i just felt like i couldn't go anywhere because i was afraid someone would see and judge me. >> reporter: until she met former pro renee powell who started the first female program called hope. >> there needs to be more support for women veterans. >> reporter: every week when the weather is warm, female veterans grab her clubs and hit the coast in east canton ohio.
>> therapeutic. >> very calming and therapeutic. you're out with nature. >> it's very spiritual. >> reporter: powell's father started this course in 1946. >> he taught me the game of golf. so i'm able to teach them -- finish on your left side. >> reporter: she teaches each player that golf is a game of patience. a metaphor for adjusting back into civilian life. >> you have to be very patient. you have to be very understanding and you have to take a step back and look at the grand scheme of things. >> reporter: playing the weekly round with women who share similar stories helps. >> when you are tearing it up out here together, it's okay. you can celebrate each other together. >> tearing it up is good or bad? >> bad. >> reporter: the comradery makes the rare perfect shot even sweeter. stephanie gosk, nbc news, east canton, ohio.
>> put a smile to your face, as long as you're not tearing it up on the gulf course. >> a video highlighting the university's lack of diversity. it's our "news nation" gut check. what's rur reaction. ? mine was earned orbiting the moon in 1971. afghanistan in 2009. on the u.s.s. saratoga in 1982. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
here are some thungz we thought you should know. in houston texas, a white activist won a local election after handing out flyers leading voters to believe he's african-american. he ran in 2011 and lost, now won a seat on the houston community college board of trustees. the district is consists primarily democrats and
minorities, mostly african-american. he defeated his african-american opponent in last season's election by 26 votes. the opponent will ask for a recount. and that's one of the things we thought you should know today. time for the "news nation" gut check. a video posted last week revealed surprising details about the lack of african-american students at ucla. a third year african-american studies major posted this video. >> when we have more national championships than we do black male freshman, it's evident the only purpose is to improve the winning percentage. black high school kids can care less about grades as long as the number on the back of the jersey doesn't fade. >> it has been viewed tens and thousands of time since being posted last monday and reignited the debate over affirmative action.
california's prop 209 which dates back to 1996 bans universities from using affirmative action practices to bring more minority students on their campuses. a michigan law modeled by the same proposition is currently being reviewed by the supreme court. joining me from burbank, thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> you are the cousin of arthur ash and said in a statement you feel it's your responsibility to uphold the strong voices of the black community. tell me a little bit what led to that decision to make the video and post it? >> so, as you said, i'm a cousin of arthur ash. the reason why i felt it was necessary. back in the day when obviously he was advocate for civil rights movement, et cetera, there was a push on the ucla campus and we were known for this diverse university doing something in the community. and you said it took a lot of pride in that. i feel they are using that for
leverage to say it's still here and but i didn't feel with me as well as the rest of the black community that we were being represented and we were being still under served. in this university that claimed to be diverse. and i feel like they are trying to uphold a prestigious operation. they are a prestigious university but i feel now it's about the money spending in leisurely ways -- >> and not about inclusion. >> a statement, we certainly recognize the low number of african-americans and other underrepresented students on campus. does it lead to sense of isolation? it's difficult to -- we mentioned the proposition that was put before voters in california and how it came out there. i'm also curious, you chose to use a comparison of how many titles the university has won. ncaa titles as it relates to
african-american students. that really hit home because you see so many black athletes on the field but not students who are nonathletes in these schools. >> exactly. i feel like the focus is, there's this general sense within the black community, mostly the low socio economic status areas that you either become a rapper or basketball player or football player in order to be successful. the stress on academics isn't there anymore or actually never really was. i feel like it's used kind of aagainst us to keep us at that low point and made it so it's given the illusion the only way they can make it out through sports. >> it got a lot of people talking. i know you've got a lot going on and a lot of people want to talk to you. what does your gut tell you? should proposition 209 which bans state schools be reexamined? go to newsnation.msnbc.com.
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