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moved on health care. franken hints the president has not led on health care. the point is, any criticism of a president in war -- >> about anything? >> bush all day long. >> please. >> the super bowl preview. who do you think heck of a job brownie is picking against? indy or new orleans? and the breaking news about the worst campaign commercial ever. attack of the killer sheep. >> we'll see what he tells us. we'll see what he's become over the years. a fcino. fiscal conservative in name only. >> now i know where i've seen this bit before. all the news now on count.
♪ good evening from new york. politicians who pad their expense accounts who look for ways to bill taxpayers for private airline flights by relatives or electrical work for tanning beds. their the lawmakers who with hold information and redakting pages of it from public scrutiny. supposedly, these are the members tea party members are fighting against. sarah palin is to deliver the keynote address in nashville. perhaps by then, organizers will have found an american flag in the convention hall. she could use it to drape herself in it. for now, the former governor of alaska drowning in nearly 3,000 pages of e-mails revealing how
closely entwined her family's finances were with state finances. and todd palin having been active in a wide range of state business. the e-mails releases to msnbc and in them, governor palin stewing over the refusal of a private plane to fly to todd's family's home. governor palin's event manager charged with finding a public event, any event, just one, to use as a justification to charge the state for an airline flight by her daughter, willow, who made a trip with her family. governor palin coaching her staff on how to keep quiet on the amount of electrical work needed to hook up her new tanning bed. todd palin, meanwhile, overseaing a judicial
appointment, receiving background checks on a corporate ceo, giving his approval or disapproval to state board appointmen appointments. that is just the stuff we know about. and for a speech by its perpetrator, is paying a reported $120,000. the opening speech envoeking one of the most dispized aspects of the jim crowe law in the 1960s and erasing the lines of the tea party. tom tancredo of colorado. >> we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote in this country. people who could not even spell the word, vote, or say it in
english. put a committed, socialist idealog in the white house. name the barack hussein obama. >> johnson phillips depending him, saying he gave a terrific speech adding quote, he doesn't feel a lot of people supporting obama understand the basics of this country. abc news reporting the attendance so far is just 600 people and "the washington post" noting there was no american flag in the convention hall on the first day. another blaming that on hotel staff. time now to call on richard wolffe. good evening. if you open the tea party convention by referencing literacy tests and i'll get to governor palin in a moment, you
claim the president was elected by people who couldn't spell the word, vote, haven't you erased any pretense that this is not about race? >> let me just say, i don't think this is the only thing that's been fuelling the tea party organization, but tom tancredo has had one issue, antiimmigrant, antiforeign. that's just who he is. he's been more explicit here. what it says about the wider tea party grouping is this question of what they've called in australia, dog whistle politics. it goes beyond being explicit stuff about literacy tests. when you question the president's birth, or that people in general who voted for him don't understand what this
country's about, it's one of the oldest ethnic and racial slurs there is. that they're not really one of us. that is fundamentally racist. you have to be clear of the kind of politics the people are engaging here and in some ways, it's more insidious when it's more subtle. you know where he stands. >> to that point, after his speech and the palin e-mails, do we have any estimation here which side the being hurt more by the other? the tea party or sarah palin? >> i think it's sarah palin, to be honest, because it comes down to this question of credibility and what she stands for. clearly, there are people who are attracted to the whole tea party movement because they don't like immigrants and never mind what they think about illegal aliens, but when it comes down to sarah palin, this is someone who's built her brand
and the movement has identified with the values of curving government spending. >> to that point, that she built alaska taxpayers for her own household expenses and called it really outrageous when she could not, how does that jibe with what is supposed to be fiscally responsible government mandate of these people in nashville? >> how does it jive with someone who disliked the governor's place so much they put it on ebay. it is hard to square up with tanning bed with the governor's plane. never mind trying to get her daughter flown around. kept the plane, maybe put a tanning bed in it. >> boehner as vice president. this week, it was also revealed, it's a detail, but the palins owed back taxes for never having
noted new properties they built in tax assessments about their land. namely, the house on their land. every time they're attacked, it's a small amount of money, the governor dismissed it as personal gossip. it might involve her personal life, but does it not speak for what she stands for politically and thus, rise above gossip? >> i'm not above people answering public life. you jab at the system. in this administration coming together, but it is ironic if you are a tea party movement and you say no taxation without representation. you should be up to date at least with your taxes. >> and she had refused to do a campaign ad for a politician. it's calling people things that you're doing yourself. richard wolffewolffe, thanks. good luck in the snow.
a palin e-mail, the one in which the governor's spokesperson refuses to criticize rush limbaugh by name even though he used a word she claimed should cost rahm emanuel his job. despite the governor's call that rahm emanuel be fired for using the term privately, once, mr. limbaugh having weighed in earlier this week. >> our politically correct society is acting like a giant insult's taken place. >> and in another three dozen uses of that, in a word picture, the word becoming clear. greg sergeant having asked palin's spokesperson for comment on limbaugh's rant. governor palin believes crude and demeaning name calling the disrespectful. backing the outrage for the name
in response to chief rahm emanuel did, limbaugh explaining why she pulled her punches. >> she had said politico was going to run a story saying that sarah palin's spokeswoman has ripped into me for using the "r" word and she said, i didn't mention rush in particular. i kept answering generically. i just wanted you to know. so i have saw the political story and low and behold, that's how the politico reported it. if it's a contest between politico and sarah palin's spokeswoman, i will believe the spokeswoman. >> also, again, claiming they were rahm emanuel's words he was repeating. let's turn to -- is sarah palin
afraid of rush limbaugh and too afraid to stand up for her son? >> she is because she knows he can have her brand and sarah palin is all about her brand. we've seen that again and again. that's really what drives her. whether she decides to leave alaska and become an analyst for fox or get $100,000 despite the fallout. if that helps her brand in her eyes and her bank account, that's what she's about. so she's not going pick a fight with rush limbaugh. >> her point about the use of that word and the pain that it causes people with these issues with their children, themselves, the pain that it causes them i think was correct. in applying a double standard, rahm emanuel and rush limbaugh, do you think that she understands that she missed an opportunity to do something for her son and other families?
>> i don't know, but what i do know is that everything with her seems to be about this cost benefit analysis. what is in her best interest. that goes directly against the brand that she tried to be about her being authentic, her core values, keeping her baby even though it was a down's syndrome baby. all these things are really exposed as nothing. the h >> now that we know where they stand on this issue, do we know that nobody goes rogue on rush limbaugh, not even sarah palin? >> nobody except nfl owners? remember? nobody else, because this is just one other example of people saying something and then having to go back in a panic to explain themselves. it was michael steele, then he had to apologize.
then the congressman from georgia who had to go back and apologi apologize. it is really amazing that now, we have sarah palin demeaning herself by having her spokeswoman call and make sure that rush didn't for a second think this was about rush. >> the e-mails, the "r" word, the mask at the tea party being ripped off and she has to address these people tomorrow. is this the week sarah palin jumpbed the shark? >> there are three kinds of people. people for who she jumped the shark a long time ago. there are people for whom she will never jump the shark, like the ones who never gave up on george bush. then finally, there's a group, i think they're going to take another look. this is so much about her own
brand. >> thanks, have a great weekend. a quick comment about the tea party and thank god for tom tancredo. next. [ ellen ] hey! [ receptionist ] hey! i was just in town for a few days, and i was wondering if i could say hi to the doctor. is he in? he's in copenhagen. oh, well, that's nice. but you can still see him! you just said he was in... copenhagen. come on! that's pretty far. doc, look who's in town. ellen! copenhagen? cool, right? vacation. but still seeing patients. oh.
we couldn't about the first tea party convention. we do not have a literacy test before people can vote. people who could not spell the word or say it in english put a committed socialist in the house. the opening speaker of the tea party convention, tom tancredo. cheered as he said those thing, lauded by the profiteer charging $349 or more attending. thank god for tom tancredo. no more inferences are required. no more hiding behind the little
hats. no more doubts. the civics literacy tests, the reference to those who could not spell the wrord, vote, that could not say it in english. these words coming from a man none of whose grandparents were born in this country, reflecting loathsome hypocrisy of others. a man who would deny the struggle of his own grandparent to make a life here, for him. how deeply, how eternally sad. these are not real americans. these are men and women who hate and who need to cloak it with some other name. tom tancredo has just stripped away from cloak for ever.
quick ant ek dote for the attention of president obama. i played the role of the franken back guy. this is when was reminded he was a high school wrestler. david axelrod may have also learned this. their encounter occurred in a closed door follow up in a session in which mr. obama was not present. senator franken criticized the administration for failing to lead on health care. nor was he the only senator.
people were hot. huffington post reports that bernie sanders followed the lead. senator brown said that white house involvement in house senate talks dried up after massachusetts sent scott brown to the senate last month. at a fund-raiser last night, mr. obama took a question. the first question about the way forward on health care strategy and suggested his interest has far from dried up. that his ambition is to use health care to e reform politician. >> i'd like to have a meeting where by i'm sitting with the republicans. sitting with the democrats. sitting with health care experts and let's just go through these bills. their ideas, our ideas. let's walk through them in a methodical way so the american people can see and compare. what makes the most sense.
and then, i think that we've got to go ahead and move forward on a vote. we've got to move forward on a vote. >> unfortunately, for any democrats heartened by the commitment to passing health care, his subsequent remarks appeared to leave things unclarified. >> we should be very deliberate, take our time. but here's the key. is to not let the moment slip away. >> take a moment to bring in craig crawford, also columnist at cqpolitics.com. >> publishers like those long subtitles. >> what should democrats take away from the president's saying within about a minute of each other statement, that they should not let health care's
moment slip away, but they should also take their time. >> makes you wonder what happens if you jam the brakes of the gas pedal at the same time on a toyota. but i think the president was trying to address something that's creeping up among democrats. let's just pass something, anything, so we can say we passed health reform. i think he may be getting a little worried about that. >> what's the orgin of that idea? it's in the white house. >> that's where some of that talk is coming from. >> that's where it originated from. if they pass anything, it will be within the greatest reversion of the social contract in at least 40 years. >> they want to avoid looking like they just threw something together. i think he was trying to make it look like they were being methodical about it.
>> all they've said previously didn't just get you raced because there's been no movement on this. they can't just think it's going to go away. >> no, i do think they're in a big hurry. the president, sometimes, i think, is a little disconnected from his people in his own way. some of his aides, more political and interested in the short-term. i've seen this going back to the campaign. >> the seriousness about this idea to get in a room with democrats, republicans, health care experts and a camera and go through the bills. a, will it happen and b, can he change the system itself at the same time he's trying to get historic results from the system? >> i think it might have happened before the q and a are republicans. if republicans had any sense, they would never agree to such a
thing because he scored so many points and it would really out them in some of their weakness. >> a question lastly, about senator franken. i'm almost afraid to ask a question about him. is orientation for al franken over? is he officially now the senate's, i will mess you up senator? >> i go back to my days where i was a page in the senate. we knew when senators
as funny as he is, he's damn serious about everything, even about being funny. good luck getting home in that storm. >> yeah, that happens to be the capitol behind us. >> if that's the capitol, you're under six feet of snow. thank you. good luck. the tale of the tapes. the video where jon stewart ran rings around him logically and new developments in the saga of the laser sheet from outer space. worst political commercial ever. thing as taking a chance?
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heck of a job, brownie. who do you think he's picking against? indianapolis or new orleans. coming up. let's play "oddball." capping off a week of exciting animal predictions, we begin at the zoo in salt lake city where the primate population offers up their picks. aft they expect a win from the saints although i'm not really willing to bet on that's who they picked.
at the zoo in iowa, weighing its options. again, nobody knows this better than people in detroit. it's been years since lions knew anything about football. meantime, meet long time saints super fan. she wears her saints' team earrings everywhere she goes. but this is places it too far. she placed them on her night stand next to her vitamins. she's recovering fine. we've not heard about the condition of the earring. how about that bill o'reilly. you know how you do that? take the parts and edit them out of your show and put them on the internet. next. there's a hospital where technology has a healing touch. there's a factory giving old industries new life.
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this show is that we rarely have guests with whom ai disagree. all our guests are reporters and they're live. why o'reilly goes the way he goes -- he can edit it out like with jon stewart. his personally often causes him to drop his guard and do something revealing like put tg clips on the internet. it's easy to see why he didn't include this. the first bit of content, o'reilly taking exception to stewart taking him out of context. >> you take a clip and take it out of context. >> i disagree. >> with the context? >> that we took it out of context. >> you cut it. the quotes were, and you mocked me.
>> we do mock you. >> yes, and i mock myself. you showed a clip of me criticizing antibush protesters. >> the idea was that fox has become a liberal network. that you love protests against government and we showed how during the bush administration you said, thousands of protesters had been arrested and surveys show most are loons. is that right? >> right. there are antibush protesters in new york while most have been peaceful, more than 1,000 have been arrested. but you cut out why they're peaceful. but that's okay. >> no. the point was, i don't want to take things out of context. and we work hard -- >> not to. >> i don't believe we did. what you said about the
protesters in the tea party movement was, you know, we want -- it was about the mainstream media, they were treating them unfairly. you said, we hear at the factor, what do you call it? you refer to it like some sort of weird -- that's right. we hear it, the factor. we treat protesters with respect and don't refer to them as loons. >> unless they're arrested and hurt people. >> that, you didn't say. >> we hear stewart saying, quote, here's the brilliance of fox news, you've been able to mainstream conservative talk radio, but after that, an exchange that was edited out. just for its contents. >> what you have been able to do, have been able to mainstream conservative talk radio and the way that you did it, you can't shoot conservative talk radio
directly into t directly into american people. so what you've done is taken a media arm of a political party and you've sprinkled it. you've cut it with a little bit of object, a little bit of chris wallace. >> what do you mean, a little bit? from 9:00 to 4:00, that's like seven hours. >> they're also part of the journey. the journey begins in the morning. it begins with the -- >> "fox and friends." obama has czars. i googled czar. it's a russian word for a russian leader. or they'll go through these children in the second grade are singing the praises of obama. did you know they sing the praises of their leader in north
korea? >> on the show, bill included stewart saying he was now the sane one. and o'reilly conceded that shawn hannity is republican, but glenn beck never shields for the republican party no matter how strong his opinion of president obama is. the part you may not have seen is this part. >> no, cavuto -- >> he goes through, we did a piece on this. his thing is all about questions. are democrats tanking the stock market? it's done with this kind of very subtle propaganda. i'm not saying obama's a -- >> just this week, cavuto claimed that maybe nothing was really wrong the toyotas.
finally, stewart returns to a main point. when president bush was president, respect was demanded of all the country's citizens, but when obama was elected, it reversed itself. web only. >> fox news has done a 180 on so many integral principles. fox news used to be all about you don't criticize a president during wartime. in aid and comfort to the enemy. all of a sudden, for some reason, you can run out there and say barack obama is destroying the fabric of this country. >> but not in the afghanistan situation. >> they've said he doesn't know what he's doing. >> everybody here has been respectful in this theatre. >> that's absolutely not true. you went through the whole -- >> too long for him to make up
the mind. >> the point is, any criticism of the president in wartime -- >> about anything? >> that's what the network was about. please. >> just for contrast, when stewart savaged me two weeks ago, i ran the whole thing. when o'reilly interviews stewart live and lets him say things like that on tv, i'll pay off part of his next harassment settlement. the president holds his second bipartisan super bowl party and when rachel joins you, she'll be in new orleans. and next -- the strangest, worst, political commercial in history and the democrats respond. it guides. it shows. it slides. it tows.
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nfl not the american football league. cant lose. this year, president obama likes the saints because of how much it would mean to new orleans or maybe because he caught the slowest pass ever from drew brees in a public service announcement. as for the guest list at the super bowl party, they will be joined by veterans and joseph cao. he switched his party plans to stay in washington when he got the call. last year, arlen specter. that could explain why visttor and lugar sent their regrets. the census bureau using less than 1% of its budget to reach nearly half of american adults.
senator mccain took to the twitter -- you kids get off of my cool ranch. and this just in. brownie -- the man who run fema under the bush administration, fiddling around in 2005 while katrina drowned new orleans and then took the blame for it. he tells politico he likes the colts -- so it didn't occur to say you like new orleans, some sort of make good. joining me now from -- i guess it's ft. lauderdale, florida. richard justice, the sports columnist of the "houston chronicle." >> hey, keith. the president, one for one with his super bowl picks. caught a pass from drew brees. you wrote the article on drew
brees. do the saints stick to it brownie and win this game? >> brownie did a heck of a job making this a better story. wouldn't be as magical a story. part of what the saints have down, they've rallied a community and inspired them with the way they've worked in the community. unfortunately, keith, the colts are a machine. they came from behind. they won every game this year they wanted to win. best quarterback in football, maybe ever. i can't see them losing the game. i'm not sure this is going to have the ending everyone woul like. >> everyone is talking about this game as if this is going to be some type of shootout. you don't have a lot of shootouts, but isn't there one really good defense going on the field sunday night? >> well, offense is what got
these teams here. two best offenses, two best quarterbacks. the offenses, the defenses have not played well in the ways you've measured. darren sharper's made lots of plays for the saints, but offense is what this super bowl's about. >> but is thus the key to the game, the indianapolis defense and is the key to the indianapolis defense the health of dwight freeney and what is that? >> the health is not good. i don't think he's going to be a factor in the game. they're hoping he can play some of third down. makes it easier for the saints, but to me, the guy that's going to decide it could be reggie bush. he has had a disappointing career, but has shown he's capable of making spectacular plays. if the saints are going to win,
it's because reggie bush returns a punt, takes a pass all the way. something the colts can't prepare for. >> it would be fascinating to see a game in which the colts won because they had different kinds of offensive weapons. >> the colts, the best general manager in football, has done a great job of surrounding peyton manning with another generation of players. they just keep it going. you and i have watched these games a long time. there is nothing like peyton manning making. it's a thing of beauty to watch this guy play football. >> as long as he's not trying to text tony dungy during the game. are football fans really advised to enjoy this game? is the world of football going
to chain in such a way this might be the last real super bowl? >> well, roger goodell gave his state of the nfl address today. you talk about putting a chill in the room. all the umbrellas fell off the drinks. the players are going to have to take an 18% pay cut. they're going to have to trust us. the players are saying flatly, we are not taking any rollbacks, so unless somebody blinks, i mean, we're going to go down a familiar road and not have any football in 2011. you and i both know how much fans love it when owners and fans get together and can't decide how to divide up a mountain of cash. >> as you point out, an odd mistake by commission goodell, who's been intuitive about this stuff addressing this today.
>> well, he -- he played it carefully, but basically, what the players are on the offensive in this. the players are -- and they've been great about it, saying they won't open their books. roger goodell has no place to go except to say, we're not doing it. >> enjoy the game. i'm sorry i'm not there with youful have a good time. >> thanks, keith. >> that's "countdown." there's no television in that game, correct? good night and good luck. and now, from new orleans with more on the super bowl and that big 600-person crowd at the tea party conference, here is rachel maddow. i do. i'm freezing. thanks, keith. and a big happy friday to
everybody from new orleans. it feels like the center of the known university tonight. mardi gras, ten days away. there's a mayoral election tomorrow and the football game on sunday, involving, i think, one of the local teams. >> i'm going to beat them saints. >> going to the super bowl -- >> who? >> the saints going to the super bowl and i hope they win. >> we going to have our party right here in new orleans. go saints! all the way! >> the success of the new orleans saints have turned a city that is always simmering up to a full boil. i mean that in a good way. that's why we're here. i am