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we are out of, time the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. we >> tonight, the tragedy in buffalo. ten people murdered at a grocery store, in a targeted, racist rampage. we will remember those lost, as yet another city mourns the political battle rages over gun control and racial rhetoric. how hate is allowed to flourish in the dark corners of the internet. and hours before primary polls open in pennsylvania, the new images of one candidate marching on january 6th. what impact will that have on the race as, the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night. >> good evening, once again, i'm stephanie ruhle.
tonight, the nation is struggling to come to grips with another massacre, saturdays racially motivated shooting in buffalo, new york, was allegedly carried out by a white 18 year old man who traveled hours to a black community, or police say he opened fire at a supermarket. ten people were killed, three others injured. tomorrow, president biden and first lady jill biden will travel to buffalo degree with that community. earlier today, white house honoring public safety officers at the white house. biden spoke about the victims and their families. >> no one understands more than all of you here today, the pain and anguish those families and buffalo feel. but, if they were -- you feel like you are pulled into a black hole inside your chest, and everything, everything -- and it's hard. >> the suspect, peyton gendron
drawn has pleaded not guilty. tonight, the new york times report, that he lied -- legally purchasing a gun, after he made threats at a high school back in june 2021, according to the washington post, messages from a writer who revealed himself as gendron, reveal that he made plans about five months ago. police say the shooter's online manifesto revealed intentions to attack more than one target. >> there were references to, had he made it out of there before police arrived, he had plans to continue his slaughter. we found some things that show he was here in early march, and we know that he was here on friday basically doing reconnaissance on the area. >> was he in the store then at that time, to do the reconnaissance? >> he was in the store, both on friday and saturday, yes. >> he had plans to continue the slaughter. authorities also say the manifesto revealed the suspect was motivated by something called, replacement theory, which is the totally false and
racist ideology that claims there is a plot to diminish the influence of white people by replacing them with immigrants and people of color. this conspiracy theory has been increasingly echoed by many who are on the right. today, liz cheney called out the house republican leadership for enabling white nationalism and antisemitism. meanwhile, fox news host tucker carlson is also coming under scrutiny for his comments, about replacement. >> the democratic party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots, with no people, obedient voters from the third world. in political terms this is called the great replacement, the replacement of the legacy of americans with more median people from other countries. it's this secret to the entire immigration debate, demographic change is the key to the democratic parties political ambitions. they are trying to change the population of the united states, and they hate it when you say that because it's true. the country is being stolen
from american citizens, as we watch. you're been replaced, and there's nothing you can do about, so shut up. >> today, on the senate floor, majority leader chuck schumer called out fox news. >> in a craven quest for viewers and ratings, organizations like fox news have spent years perfecting the craft of stoking cultural grievance and political resentment. that eerily mirrors the messages found in replacement theory. if organizations like fox news, truly want to condemn this weekend's violence, they need to stop spreading ideas like replacement theory on their shows. >> meanwhile, house democrats are looking to introduce legislation meant to fight the threat of white supremacists, and other domestic extreme
groups. so, i want to start our evening with a man who has had a very difficult few days, mayor of buffalo byron brown. mayor brown, i'm so so sorry for what you're going through. please, tell us how the people above lured are doing tonight? >> the people of buffalo are grieving tonight, a lot of heartbroken people in our community. a lot of scared people in our community. we are starting the process of healing, a lot of prayer in the city of buffalo, lifting each other up, wrapping our arms around the families of the victims, the precious lives lost, in this mass shooting. this horrible crime against our community. but we are a strong community, we are coming together, and we will get through this incredibly difficult and dark time. >> the city of good neighbors. tell us a bit about tops, this grocery store, and how important it was for your city
and specifically that neighborhood. >> the tops is the center of the community. years ago, when i was a city council member, i worked hard with others to convince the corporate community that there was a marketplace on the east side of buffalo, and the inner city of buffalo. tops supermarket stepped forward. they were one of the corporations that said, we will invest in this community. there are tens of thousands in this community that need a place to shop, this is a food desert, and we will locate a store in this community. so, the supermarket is more than just a supermarket, it is a gathering place, a meeting place. yes, importantly i place for people to get groceries. but also, a place that hosts
special events, a place that provides information in the community. so critically important to the residents of this area of the city of buffalo, that rely on the supermarket for their food, for their prescriptions and four healthy eating. >> this alleged shooter, he wasn't from buffalo, he was an 18 year old man from hours away. we -- >> he was radicalized in eight, partially from the internet. he took more than three hours to get to buffalo, to shoot and kill people he didn't know. his goal was to take as many black lives as possible, and if not for the heroic action of the security officer, a retired buffalo police officer who engaged the suspects, and returned fire from the suspect, he might have killed more people inside the supermarket.
if not for the swift response by the buffalo's police department, getting to the scene of this mass shooting in about two minutes time, and being able to get him to surrender himself to police, there might have been many more people killed outside in the community, that was his goal, unfortunately the buffalo police were able to stop his heinous plan. >> we're grateful for that. mayor brown, thank you for joining us tonight, i appreciated. our thoughts are with you and your city. >> thank you, stephanie. >> with that, let's bring in the evenings experts, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times, professor melissa murray of nyu law school, she was a law clerk for sonia sotomayor on the federal bench, before her nomination to the supreme court. and nbc political analyst brittany cunningham, she's a former member of president
obama's 24 century policing task force. >> we see shootings like this all too often, people express their grief, they're upset, their anger. over and over they say, that is not who we are. but then it happens again. is this who we are? we >> sadly, this is exactly who we are. i think that folks want to act as if this exists on the fringes, or this was the act of a mentally ill individual. but let's really actually break down what it means when people immediately go to those kinds of answers. first of all, we have to recognize that ten people are now dead, they will never be with their families again. and in particular, he killed a lot of black elders. -- why just watch a new story, about shoe 62 years, old shoes in there to get some cold cuts with her fiancée to eat some dinner. these are people who survived the very worst atrocities of this country, this for those same atrocities to resurrect themselves and their murderous,
in what should have been the greatest years of their lives, in the twilight of their lives. so i'm particularly sick about that. the fact that those people are dealing with someone who now is being labeled as just a child, or someone who's mentally ill, is terrifying. but we do this over and over again. this is precisely the cycle that you're talking about, and that cycle is one that keeps us embedded in a space where we are unwilling to actually look at ourselves, and all the ways that we perpetuate this. take this mental health narrative, for example. yes, it is supposed to humanize white perpetrators of domestic terrorism, and of course increases stigma gains people who are truly mentally ill, and don't go around terrorizing people. but in the end, the people who raised, him and the churches who preach to him, and the classrooms to talk to him, and the community that embraced him, off the hook. and every time that happens, every time those folks are able to throw out their hands and say, it wasn't our fault
because he was crazy. every time that happens in cities, and towns, and states across america, another shooter, another terrorists, another white supremacist is being developed, he's been radicalized. sadly, this is exactly who we are, and it will continue to happen until we actually shift the cycle. >> no one is calling this man a child, not here, not in the show that's for sure. old enough to buy this gun, old enough to suffer the consequences. melissa, the justice department is investigating this as a hate crime, which is different from a normal investigation. what does that mean? >> so, this hate crime will come if there are charges brought against him under the hate crime statute, there are additional penalties based on the fact that this would be considered a racially motivated crime. it seems like there is sufficient evidence to make out those charges. it is a federal crime, so there may already be new york state charges that may be leveled against him, love -- federal hate crime statute, and
that of course would have to be established through a federal trial, or perhaps a guilty plea, in that case it would come with its own additional punishments, and its own in enhancements because of the racially motivated nature of the crime, if it were proven. >> peter, republican liz cheney critic of his house leadership, republican adam kinzinger singled out elise stefanik, for pushing this replacement theory rhetoric. do republicans have a problem here? well kinzinger and cheney might be, right their influence in their party has diminished. do republicans have to address or valve minute any of this? >> well, that's exactly, right there is a very small section of the republican party willing to talk about this, and they ought to think that people were talking about trumpism, and talking about january 6th, and the ones who think that something is wrong in their own party who are at the very least tolerating, if not actively encouraging versions of white
supremacy, and things like that. i think that you have not heard of people from the party, nor president trump, who is the likely front runner for their nomination 2024, where the congressional leaders. that speaks to the state of affairs right now on the right. you have president biden go there tomorrow, and the question will be how does he address this. obviously, he's always been an empathetic political figure, he will talk about the tragedy and the loss, and probably related to his own loss and his own family, which he tends to do. the question a lot of people on the left are asking is whether he will call out republicans in the way that liz cheney and chuck schumer, as you showed did today, how much will he talk about this. he wants to be a unifying president, but at the same time how do you then address these scourge of racism that has fueled the kind of violence we
see now. and also in so many places before it. >> brittani, the new york times is reporting that federal data shows that hate crime specifically against black americans, who make up 12. 1% of the population, have far exceeded those reported against any other group, that includes biases based on victims religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. given these facts, realistically, how can we address this? what do we need to do? . so, what i find important to recognize in this moment, as you said, is that we use accurate language like you said on the show, you are not calling him a child, he was old enough to buy that gun. you are not using any of the excuses that we are seeing a lot of media organizations decide they're gonna, use that matters across the board. and we have to recognize that not only was this white supremacist, but it was deeply anti blink. to drive three and a half hours to a black neighborhood, that
you research ended reconnaissance in, is to engage in anti black violence, that is sadly as american as apple pie, and harkens back to an eraof racial terror that we have seen time and again in this country, and when it happens sadly none of us were surprised, because, as you said, these are the facts. we were so i'm surprised that, we can actually play out exactly what the aftermath was going to be. we knew the police were gonna take him alive, we knew that there was gonna be this mental illness narrative, we knew that he was going to be seed as a kid, including by the ap, who called 18-year-old michael brown, who is unarmed in order to, a man. their knew that this would be thoughts and, prayers and people would use the passive voice, as if they didn't engage in the rhetoric that perpetuated this. we knew that fox news would essentially stay silent at best, we knew that colorful you know euphemisms will be used to avoid saying white supremacist or domestic terror. that train always runs on time. and at some point, there has to be enough of our priority on the lives of black americans to interrupt that cycle. you have to do something
urgently different to get a different result, and thus far it doesn't seem like our communities are enough of a priority to do that, for lawmakers who know better. >> peter, president biden launched his campaign for the white house, talking about what happened in charlottesville and the need to end racism. you mentioned he's going to be an empathetic voice tomorrow. we've heard that from him before. there is another commonality in saturday's shooting, which we've seen with so many others. hate, unfortunately, we can't get rid of. but ar-15 assault rifles, and rifles like them, we see them again, and again in these mass shootings. well, the president does not make or set gun laws, he can't. is there any chance when we see him tomorrow, he'll start to talk. he'll bring up gun reform. because those assault style weapons, we here in city, after city, after city. >> yeah, certainly biden has a
history in this narrative of course. during the 1990s as, a senator, he proposed and passed a and assault rifle ban that lasted about ten years. but then, sunset out. there was the ban, which went away, and made these weapons legal again. he has fought for gun control in the past. his vice president under president obama. he was charged with coming up with a plan to help restrict gun access after the newtown shootings. he did sign executive orders, they were pretty modest. not get any significant out of congress. you know, there is a pattern here to. we said that the train boards on time every time, well, that's also the case on the gun issue here. we hear calls for gun control, and then, maybe traction for the wild and disappear. there is an embodied, embedded resistance to the kind of lost that president biden would like to pass in the political system. and i don't think it's gonna change after this law, after this terrible tragedy and
massacre anymore -- if it didn't do it after the children of newtown is hard to see how anything is gonna change that, at least in the short term. it has to be something more fundamental, if gun control advocates want to bring the kind of change they believe is necessary in washington. >> we're gonna end the segment exactly where we started it. people always say, this isn't who we are. but alas, perhaps it is. peter baker, melissa murray, brittany packnett cunningham, thank you all for joining us tonight. coming up, how that false theory we were just talking about, apparently embraced by the suspected gunman is allowed to flourish on the internet? nbc news reporter ben collins is here to debunk replacement theory and explain how this movement has no borders. and later, just hours away from polls opening. and there is a high stakes primary races in pennsylvania, where there are new twists and turns for candidates in both parties in the final stretch. the 11th hour just getting underway on a very important monday night. ight
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after law enforcement officials say they believed the suspected gunman wrote and posted a manifesto, with repeated mentions of what's known as, the replacement theory. so let's get into what exactly that is. as our own ben collins sums it up, it's the false idea that a cabal is attempting to replace white americans with non white
people through immigration, interracial marriage, and eventually, violence. with us tonight, the very reporter, ben collins himself. he covers this information and extremism on the internet. ben, tell us more about this false idea, because it's not just being pushed in the united states, it's around the world. >> yeah, in fact, the specific person, this person who tried to emulate, this weekend, the logic behind the christchurch attack. the shooter from new zealand shooting that killed 51 people a couple of years ago, it's basically, basically a copy and paste job of that manifesto. these people are clearly anti immigrant, and this guy was very mixed up. he was anti-immigrant, targeting black people, because he believed they were part of the invasion of this country.
there's an antisemitic conspiracy theory, above all, in part because he believes, you know, jews are trying to bring in people to change the electorate in the united states. and that's what this is about to him. largely, what we have noticed over the past couple of days here, i've been combing through his discord, which he posted shortly before the shooting. his discord serves as a diary. but for him, it serves as a planning diary going back to december. he tried to scope out places that would cause the most harm, and the most error to black people specifically what. initially, he thought maybe i should do this in a school, or maybe in a church, but he wanted to bring the most terror to every single black civilian, to make it, to make black people believe that they can be targeted anywhere. that's what he was going for. >> who he says have come into this country to replace white people. of course, all of the people who he shot and killed were older than he is. and have been in this country long before even he was born. then, where does he find, not
specifically, but you track it. where does this information found? what websites? what chat rooms are these racist theories pushed on? >> well, he realized his audience was mostly on a knock off of a website called hn. it's now dead, other sites popped up and use that name. so that's what he did for the shooting. he took his manifesto, and he is working on it for months. and he posted it to people that he met on discord, things like gaming forms, and other things like that. he said, i mueller that he is about to do the shooting on twitch, which is like a video game service. but there was a large contention of people in the space, completely anonymized space. twitch it's a completely out of my space where anyone can post anything, that's been used from foreign destination operations, but it's also just for people like this, who are trying to hide their identity, until the moment they're no longer trying to hide it. this man found a community in white nationalist terror all throughout the world. and you know, people like britain temp, and also people
like the shooter at the el paso shooter. they are a lot of people who believe what he believed, but they're all over the world. they're not just in this community. these people do not meet up in real life. there's still a community for them, you know, on the internet. >> i'm afraid to ask this question. in these chat rooms, what has the response been to this shooting? please don't tell me has been praised, some sort of sick hero. please! >> well, there's two reactions to this. you know, there is that reaction, steph, that he has been praised for this, among white nationalists, because that's what they want. they want a race war, and this is one way of going about this. but, you know, these people are deeply paranoid. even if they agree with it, they think it's some sort of, fed operation. they think it's some sort of
false flag to track from whether the problems they think are real. so they're equally upset at this man, while also, agreeing with him in this space. they want the race for, but they don't want to be blamed for it. at the very heart of the agreements made the other day. >> i have to ask you. these sick, sick dark web chat rooms, you, unfortunately, for your job, you live on them. what is this like for you? when you heard about the shooting on saturday? were you surprised, or were you basically waiting for this to happen? >> steph, i never thought this was gonna go away. you know, if you talk about replacement theory over and over again, in the public sphere, and you alluded to it as a legitimate political stance to take, and then, somebody in the extremist forums, they're not just saying, it's a legitimate stance to take, but we have to take action on it. eventually, you expect that someone's going to do it. that's what happened in 2018, and 2019 when this was so
prominent in the spaces. there was this string of terror attacks, one before the midterms in pittsburgh, at a synagogue. but then, you know, a several. 2019 copy vigilantes, there were every weekend. there was one we congratulate close to my house because i assume that it was a saturday that somebody was gonna do something again. i hope you don't get back into that space. that's what i hope, steph. but i also realize that, you know, this is not going away. this is a community that is growing, and it is now picking up real mainstream attention from people who should not be getting it. >> and it's time to do something about it. ben collins, thank you always for your incredible reporting, and for your willingness to cover the darkest of the dark. coming up, new twists in high school, in a high-profile pennsylvania primary race, just hours away from the polls opening. a. b. stoddard and tim miller on what is at stake for both sides, and what to expect tomorrow, when the 11th hour continues.
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is still in the race, so let's discuss and welcome back amy stoddard, veteran washington journalist, an associate editor and columnist for real clear politics, -- for jeb bush, a.b. tim came in first so he gets to go first. tim, kathy barnett is as far right as they come, and people keep saying that these new pictures that emerged of her, that shows that she was marching in washington on january 6th, these pictures are gonna be a problem for her. but are they? if you are someone who is already in the ultra maga corner, is marching on january six a problem or a bonus? >> yeah, i saw those pictures this morning, and i thought should be getting a two or three point bump in the primary out of it, sadly. you have to do a little macabre humor with the state of affairs in this race, look who she is running against in this race, just for some context on the primary, the original person
who got all the endorsements was david mccormack, who is a classic davos moderate republican, and globalist. he was pretending to be ultra maga, he rolled out on breitbart said he was gonna be doing a full maga. of a whole profile on the bulwark if people want to read more, but the other candidate in the races even phone or than him. it's doctor oz who's a socially liberal tell to television star also pretending to be a mega nationalist which is also ridiculous in. the last week or two i don't think it's that surprising that someone who's actually of the, crazy who is there on january 6th, who isn't pretending that they believe in voter fraud would get momentum in this race, i don't know if it's enough to win, but we all talk about the glenn youngkin model.
that only works because was an off year election and he didn't have to face voters. . republican voters want real maga, i wish it was in the, case but that's what they want. kathy barnette is giving it to them, while the other two are obvious takers, and that's where we land. >> and given that, a. b. stoddard, mccormack is a daboll starling, mehmet awes is a tv star who has very little connection even to the state of pennsylvania. given that, how did these two men with hours to go think they can win over any of barnette we 's supporters, what can i even say? >> they were really caught off guard with by the step. [inaudible] the stars aligned for kathy barnette. as you, said those photos can only endure her more to the primary voters, and find her incredibly authentic. she is the and politician, she
says whatever she feels, timing again was unbelievable. after the leak of the draft opinion from justice alito, she has this amazing video out to go to the heart of the primary electorate about how she was the result of the rape of her 11 year old mother, and she still believes in no exceptions as a pro-lifer for rape or incest or anything else. culture is going gaga for her over on twitter, everyone thinks she is the real deal, and now she has the endorsement of scott perry, her pennsylvania congressman we who is under subpoena from the january six committee and had a role in the two month coup plot. so i think if you're oz and mccormick, you just ran into a buzzsaw of bad luck because in the seven days she had, to have all these things come into place, and the fact that even though trump said she is really trouble, and can't win the
general election, he then goes and endorses mastriano for governor, which the entire republican party of pennsylvania is in a blind panic about. he runs with kathy barnette wynne, there are signs are posted together, so he is likely to pull her over the line. >> i don't understand the blind panic then, because here we are with guys like sean hannity going after barnette we, attacking her for marching on january 6th. and yet, elise stefanik has risen to power within the gop, once a moderate, and now she's been appealing to the darkest instincts of the base. so, what is the game plan for the top of the party, for republican leadership. >> here is the difference between elise and kathy, steph. elise plays inside, game the whole farce of the maga movement, is they claim to be outsiders that are going after
the old establishment, but there is just a new establishment that's replace the old establishment, and the maga establishment. that what they want to people they know what they want, the next time he steals elections. they want someone they know they can trust to win, elections and, democrats down message, and go along with mitch mcconnell and appoint judges. this is what elise stefanik is, she is owned by donald trump because her whole career has been made by the fact that she quit being a old school tim miller style moderate republican, and threw in with trump. trump can't control kathy barnette, she's not all that good, as you watch are doing fox interviews, she doesn't know which is gonna, say she does never talking points. so these guys at all claim to be outsiders, they don't want to reel outsider, they want a person that they can control that will go along with the trump program. at least we'll do that, she is just phony enough to do it, and kathy we isn't, there is nothing about them disagreeing with their positions, they're
fine with all those positions of as long as a person stays on message. >> well, all eyes on pennsylvania, tomorrow a. b. stoddard, tim miller, thank you so much. coming, up the conflict in ukraine has another traditionally neutral nation looking to join forces against russia. we will talk to the former ambassador about that, and more, when the 11th hour continues.
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day will be when we close the switch and actually join, and i'll tell you very quickly why that is. sweden and finland both have superb, highly trained, technologically advanced militaries. it's a signal to russia that nato is not gonna back down in the face of the kind of rack shun that we're seeing in ukraine. >> as we enter the 83rd day of russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine, sweden says, just like finland, it wants to end decades of neutrality and join nato. surprisingly, vladimir putin's reaction to the news was pretty subdued. from the washington post, quote, russian president vladimir putin sought to downplay the development, saying he had no problems with the alliances possible expansion. i'm gonna find out about that one. with us tonight, william taylor. former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. he's also the united states institute of peace vice president for russia and europe. mister ambassador, that is a
wow! what do you make of putin's reaction? let them expand. >> a couple of things. one is, he can't afford to go after, to threaten, to make an aggressive move toward finland and sweden. he's got it hands more than full in ukraine. ukraine's giving him a run for the money. more than that, ukraine is pushing him back. so he can't threaten, credibly, to go after sweden or finland. but the second point is very interesting. he used nato expansion. putin said that nato expansion was what caused him to have to invade ukraine. well, he's now saying, actually, it's no big deal. the extension is no big deal. that just shows the lies, that the nato expansion argument was never the real reason. putin just really wants to
dominate ukraine, and that's what he was after. >> it also shows that he simply doesn't have that stronger hand, which is why some european leaders are calling on ukraine to consider concessions that would allow putin to say face. what do you think about that? >> i mean, this is almost a moral for any leaders to be asking president zelenskyy to give up some of his own territory. this is, you know, this is a horrible statement. president zelenskyy recognizes what is people want, what ukraine wants. he recognizes what is at stake here. zelenskyy recognizes that what is at stake is his independence, is sovereignty, is nation, and he is in the best position to decide when to negotiate, if ever. and then, if he decides to negotiate, what he'll put on the table? this is not for any european, or anybody, to say what goes on
the table for president zelenskyy. he's the one who decides. >> he's the one who has risked so much and lost so much already. something else that caught our eye. a russian columnist wasn't russian state tv, completely controlled russian state tv, and set this. quote, we are in full geopolitical isolation, and that, however much we would hate to admit this, virtually, the entire world is against us. and that is a situation we need to get out of. the fact that was said on state tv in russia is incredible. is it evidence that the bubble is breaking down, and people there are starting to find out the truth? >> it is, stephanie. people are starting to find out the truth. the russians are starting to hear from neighbors, whose sons and daughters, mostly sons and husbands, are coming back from ukraine, dead to be buried. that's getting around, because somewhere between 10, 000,
20,000 ukrainians, there's 27 27,000 russians have been killed in ukraine. that message, you can't hide from families. you can't hide from communities. so this is getting their, and as you say, these military bloggers who are upset, they're indignant that the russian military is doing so badly. so this is getting out there. i think president putin is gonna have to acknowledge that. >> so what you have your eye, going forward? >> watch the ukrainians pushing back hard. the ukrainians know, push the russians back out of kyiv, that's the first stage. the ukrainians, right now, are pushing the russians back out of kharkiv, the second largest city. and the russians say they are trying to now take the donbas. but that's at a stalemate right now. so the green is really having
momentum. yes, they pulled out of mariupol. and the heroes that the defendant variable for that long will be remembered in ukrainian history. >> world history. ambassador william taylor, every time you join us, you make us smarter. appreciate you joining us here. >> thank you, stuff. >> please, stay with us. right after the break, we will be remembering those lost lives in the city of good neighbors. it is a segment you all need to see, and people we all need to remember, when the 11th hour continues.
and horrific, and should not be tolerated in any country, in any community. >> the last thing before we go tonight. the city of good neighbors and the community of buffalo is a special. it's also reeling tonight, after ten people, ten good people, nearly all black, were gunned down in a racially motivated attack. well, while simply buying the groceries on a sunny saturday afternoon. these folks were grandmothers, fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters, all lost, in senseless, hatred driven violence. there was 52 year old margus d. morrison, he was a buffalo native, a father of three, working as a buffalo school bus aid. marcus was in the store to buy food for his weekly movie night. 53 year old, andre mcneill, he was from central new york. he was in buffalo visiting relatives, and was in tops to pick up a surprise birthday
cake for three old son. >> i can't imagine how i found out about the news. i was laying on my couch, praying for the city. the last thing my mother told me on the phone, i'm one hour away. >> 65 year old celestine chaney, a breast cancer survivor, was buying strawberries to make her favorite strawberry shortcake. her sister said more than anything, she loved being a grandmother. 32-year-old roberta a. drury moved to buffalo ten years ago. her brother told npr he's been recovering from leukemia, so she often shop for groceries for him and his family's. 62 year old geraldine talley was set to be an expert baker, known for her warm, gentle personality. she was their grocery shopping with her fiancée. as many still people magazine, quote, our lives will never be the same.
86 year old ruth whitfield was the mother of a retired buffalo fire commissioner, and a devoted caregiver, who had spent the day visiting her husband in a nursing home, before she stopped to get groceries. >> what i love most about my mom's house she loved us, how she loved our family. unconditionally, how she sacrificed everything for us. how she gave up herself when she had nothing else to give. >> then, there's 72 year old civil rights advocate katherine massey who was said to be passionate about education. she wrote letters to the buffalo news, including one specific letter a year ago, calling for better federal gun control to stop mass killings. 67 year old heyward patterson was loading groceries into his car when he was gunned down. according to local media, he
would often drive people who couldn't walk to the very store where he was murdered, because quote, as a faith-based man, he felt it was his calling to give a helping hand to others, and do things out of the kindness of his heart. 77 year old pearl young who was a substitute teacher. she was known as the neighborhood mom. for decades, she ran weekly food pantry, and every saturday, she fed people in buffalo central park. and then, there's former buffalo police lieutenant was aaron salter. it was a 55 year old security guard at the store, who sacrificed his own life for others, until his very last breath. buffalo's police commissioner put it simply, lieutenant salter was a true hero. all lives lost, but never, ever forgotten in the city of good neighbors. tonight, taking away community and kindness in the face of hate. love is always the answer
because nothing else matters. and on that note, i wish you all a very good and safe night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying late with us. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. >> tonight on all in. a supermarket in upstate new york joins a synagogue in pittsburgh and a church in south carolina in a long continued white supremacist violence in america. >> we're not just hurting. we're angry. we're mad. this shouldn't have happened. >> tonight, jelani cobb and heather mcgee on the search for answers in buffalo and on the same racism behind this attack now dominates the american right. and nick confessore on how the right's biggest driving the racist agenda. and just hours from polls