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ame ♪ ♪♪ ♪ and they're always glad you came ♪ welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you. that's tonight's reid out. all in with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in." >> usually i stay in the background, and i just couldn't stay quiet anymore. >> the mother of a fallen police officer pleads with republicans. mitch mcconnell begs senators to kill the january 6 commission as a, quote, personal favor. >> i can't imagine anyone voting against the establishment of a commission on the greatest assault since the civil war on the capitol. >> tonight the republican refusal to investigate an attack
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on america and the democrat that's still standing in the way. >> would you be willing to break the filibuster in order to get this passed? >> and then new reporting on a new scandal for trump's money man. plus labor secretary marty walsh on what today's jobless numbers mean for biden's big jobs agenda. and the climate nightmare in alaska where one oil company is now chilling the warming ground so they can suck more oil out of it. when "all in" starts now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. no one should be surprised by what is likely going to happen in the u.s. senate tonight, but everyone should be outraged. republicans are planning to block a procedural vote to filibuster. the attempts to create an independent commission to investigate the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. this is a black and white issue. it's not morally complex.
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there's no actual justification for the vast majority of the republican caucus to take this extraordinary step of filibustering a completely bipartisan commission to investigate have worst frontal assault on the peaceful transfer of power in this country's history at least since the civil war. remember for months, okay, it's may right now, we're getting to this in may for this reason. because for months democrats negotiated with house republicans in good faith, negotiated to reach a deal to investigate the attack. republican from new york is the guy that led those negotiations for his party. katko the republican hammered out all the details with his democratic counterpart of mississippi. and he did all this at the behest in communication with house leader kevin mccarthy who then just turned around and told
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the whole republican party to vote against the commission. here's congressman katko urging his colleagues to vote for it. >> what information was known leading up to january 6th? why was that information not shared with the proper entities? why were capitol police officers left so unprepared? who failed to provide them with support? why did it take so long for reinforcements to come to their aid? how can we ensure the capitol members of congress and our staffs are secure from attacks? and how do we ensure this is a safer place for members of the capitol police force who risk their lives every day to protect us? >> i mean, those seem like good questions you'd want the answer to. eventually 35 house republicans across party lines joined with democrats in a bipartisan vote to back the bill. over in the senate the bill always seemed unlikely to succeed, at least an uphill
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battle partly because of the filibuster. you have republican senators mitt romney of utah and lisa murkowski of alaska, maine susan collins expressed her willinginize to do the same but only if the house bill would consider some changes. and those tweaks would prompt more republicans to get behind it, but in the end looks like that's not going to work. again, there's no reason not to vote for a bipartisan commission to create a 10-person panel evenly split, five positions selected by congressional leaders, five selected by their republican counter parts that would undertake an inquiry into what stands out in american history as an essentially unprecedented attack, a mob at the president's direction storming the capitol to attempt to overturn a democratic election to install the loser in power over the winner and against the will of the people. this is obvious even to democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia who put it this way.
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quote, there is no excuse for any republican to vote against this commission since democrats have agreed to everything they asked for. mitch mcconnell has made this his political position thinking it will help his 2022 elections. they do not believe the truth will set you free so they continue to live in fear. now, none of that justification matters to republicans because we're not having an argument here where people can be persuaded. this is a completely amoral calculus, the same one republicans have been making since 2016. even as the family of brian sicknick, the capitol police officer who suffered two strokes after being sprayed in the face with an unknown substance and lost his life a day after he confronted a violent insurrection, after his mother and partner went through the halls to lobby to republican senators, it was not enough. >> i want them to be thinking about brian sicknick, officer
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leavengood and jeffrey smith. they sacrificed their lives that day. doesn't matter that brian's cause of death was natural. he still died defending them that day. >> usually i stay in the background, and i couldn't stay quiet anymore. >> it appears those efforts, those heartfelt efforts by those individuals will come to naught. according to a cnn report senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is whipping against the commission personally asking republicans to consider it a personal favor, a no vote. now, there are several different ways in which this is obviously preposterously hypocritical, you can point to assault by militias, an attack that cost four americans their lives, an occasion years and years of republican inquiry and a special committee and remarkable 11 hours of testimony by former secretary of state hillary clinton. and yet an assault on our own capitol by americans at the direction of the then-sitting
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president that resulted in the deaths of five people, that doesn't matter. to hammer the point home a progressive veterans group put together an ad with audio of republicans demanding the benghazi investigation of the january 6th insurrection. >> what i think we ought to do is complete the investigation and find out what exactly happened. and i think we have a sense of what happened. we know there was inadequate security, and we know the administration kind of made up a tale here in order to make it seem like it wasn't a terrorist attack. i think that's worthy of investigation and investigations ought to go forward. >> just a few months ago republicans in their abject cowardice loved to say an excuse for voting against the impeachment it was happening too fast, they need to slow down and enter more facts into evidence. >> what i think we ought to do is complete the investigation
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and find out what exactly happened. >> it is abundantly clear that the driving motivation is protecting the political interests of the president rather than telling the truth about what happened or getting to bottom of it. >> why didn't they wait for an investigation? why did they go straight to snap judgment? >> it was a mistake for the house to rush into impeach. . they've not fully investigated exactly who was part of this. >> this is why you don't want to have snap impeachments. evidence really does matter. >> ted cruz there of course talking about benghazi. the rest of them talking about that impeachment hearing. oh, you went too fast, we didn't get all the facts. we should get all the facts. in an investigation you're putting the cart before the horse. they're saying, oh, no we're already past that, we moved on. all this remember is being reverse engineered around the sheer political fact, which is this and i don't like saying it but it's true. donald trump one of the worst
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men to ever occupy the office of president, he's in the conversation, a man who's been impeached twice. never happened before, who oversaw literally the deadliest year in u.s. history and that man donald trump he still controls the republican party. no one reads his blog. i don't know what he does in mar-a-lago. no one really cares about his takes as they shouldn't, but there he is. and the reason is he fully embodies the base of the party, their world view and their grievances and their hatreds. and it does not matter what happens. there's nothing that would pry it apart. they had one chance. they had it. it was given to them to make a clean break. that was during the impeachment. they had it. you could have voted to convict, mitch. you could have voted to disqualify him from future office and then he'd have no power, but you didn't. and so now he is your king.
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and as king you are his soldiers. and as soldiers you must defend him from an inquiry that would obviously show horrible things about a horrible man. and so here we are. senator amy klobuchar, democrat from minnesota who'll vote shortly on the january 6th commission and who's chairwoman of the senate rules committee has already gaveled a hearing on the january 6th attack joins me now. >> thanks, chris. >> what's the mood like there today? >> well, we're very focused on the competition bill, but this fact that my colleagues are not going to allow this commission to go forward, i think some of them will vote for it, chris. it just -- it shocks me. i just keep having the image of these workers the day after the insurrection sweeping the glass away, sweeping the glass away from the capitol windows away. and it's like they're trying to sweep the facts away right now. you heard from the mother of
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officers sicknick who died that evening. and you heard her words. she's not used to doing these kinds of things. she's an ordinary person doing extraordinary things, talking to senators saying why won't you want the facts? and i think it's so important that this be a thorough bipartisan inquiry. you know, we are doing a report that will come out in about a week or so out of the rules committee and the homeland security committee in the senate. that's important to do. that's what senator peters and senator blunt and myself. and we worked hard on this. we interviewed people. it will be thorough, but it is a report about the media, about what were the security failures. it is a report that i think will immediately help us to pass legislation, but it doesn't get to the systemic underlying cause. it isn't bicameral. it's not with the house. it is just with the senate. and i always thought it would not be the end, it would be the
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beginning. so i'm proud of the work we've done on a bipartisan basis, but it is no substitute, no substitute for a 9/11-type commission report and investigation. >> i mean, i want to replay you what mcconnell had to say and then get your reaction. take a listen. >> obviously the role of the former president has already been litigated exhaustively in the high profile impeachment trial we had right here in the senate several months ago. i do not believe the additional extraneous commission that democratic leaders want would uncover crucial new facts or promote healing. >> what do you say to that? >> well, first of all look how he voted that evening. but i also look at the fact that as much as this president, the former president should have been impeached, the impeachment hearing was just about that.
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it wasn't about what happened with the defense department and why the intelligence wasn't shared and all the underlying reasons, what led up to this, what could we do differently. thinkf of those 9/11 commission report recommendations, chris. they covered a whole number of things that really helped us move forward so we could do a better job as a country. we're going to do our part about the capitol security in this report that you will soon see. but it is still not the same as doing this deep dive systemic review of everything that happened. >> i thought the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell tips his hand there when he says obviously the role of the former president has already been litigated exhaustively. he is the republican party. his political strength is their strength. it's all the same thing, and the big long report that says, yes, the guy with the largest bull horn in america spent months undermining the integrity of the election and attempting to
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overthrow the democratic process culminating in a violent assault on the capitol is not going to make them look good, and that will be bad for them. and that's it. may crazy or is that what this is all about? >> i think it is. you think of the words of john mccain that you fight for a cause larger than yourself, that peoples true mission and why they should want to go into public service. democracy is a cause larger than ourselves, larger than our parties and getting to the bottom line on what happened and the facts, this is about our democracy, and it is not about what party you belong to. >> your colleague john tester, a straight shooter, i think fair to say. >> that's fair to say, very fair to say. >> he said this. we've got to get to the bottom of this. he said, jesus, it's a nonpartisan investigation of what happened. you make tough decisions in this office or you shouldn't be here. i do find the fear bizarre. i truly do. i think it's a calculation that, look, this is who we are and
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this is what we are and this is who we represent and how we can win elections by being this party and this faction. you know, i don't think they're crazy to think that. but -- >> but it's not what our job is. i mean, our job isn't just about winning. our job is about getting things done for people and standing up for our country. could i just -- that's why you saw them join with the four former homeland security secretaries and say we must have this commission. those are two republican appointees joining with democrats. so my point is there are people that believe that, still. >> time question and sis the going to bring us to the next topic in a second. but it feels this way to me and my views on the filibuster are clear. i've been on the record. i think it's bad for all kinds of reasons. like, if you can't get ten here,
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if you can't get ten for a bipartisan commission, a bipartisan commission to investigate the insurrection on the capitol, like what are we doing here? what can you get it for? >> well, it's clearly one of the reasons i favor abolishing the filibuster. i think that our job is to get things done, and that includes looking at what happened at the insurrection when a mob basically invaded our capitol and killed people. i also believe that we need to convince our ranks that this is a time to do it. i think we have another big hurdle coming up that's so important for the democracy, which is the next step, which is voting rights. because you not only see refusal to look at what happened on january 6th. you see effort to literally stop people from exercising their freedom to vote. and that's what we're in the middle of discussing right now as a caucus. and that is certainly a worthy reason to change the filibuster to advance that legislation.
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>> senator amy klobuchar, on a very busy day and what will be a long night. thank you for making a bit of time. the only reason we're here wondering if the united states congress will investigate what happened at the capitol is because democrats like joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, chiefly joe manchin they want to keep this 60-vote threshold for the sake of bipartisanship. but could that change if this vote fails? that's next. but could that chan vote fails that's next. great job! [moo] you're welcome. breyers natural vanilla is made with 100% grade a milk and cream and only sustainably farmed vanilla. better starts with breyers. [sfx: kids laughing] [sfx: bikes passing] [sfx: fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. okay. mother and child in vehicle. mother is unable to exit the vehicle. injuries are unknown. thank you, onstar. ♪
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west virginia senator joe manchin is one of two senate democrats who have consistently opposed abolishing the filibuster, on the record opposing that. so democrats can pass things like the voting rights bill or establishing a january 6th commission. in april he even wrote an op-ed about it titled i will not vote to weaken the filibuster. and, you know, he's putting his money where his mouth is right now. he's working with a bunch of senate republicans on trying to hammer a bipartisan infrastructure deal, but he's not been able to get any significant republican support for the january 6th commission. and today senator manchin was asked if he's willing to remove the filibuster to ensure we have this commission? >> would you be willing to break the filibuster in order to get this passed? >> i'm not ready to destroy our government, no. i think the will come together. you have to have faith.
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they're good people. >> how frustrating is it -- >> it's frustrating. i will tell you there's a lot of negotiations and the leadership of democrats on both the house and senate have agreed to the recommendations that were made to make the adjustments. there's no excuse for a republican not to vote for this unless they don't want to hear the truth. >> what's your message to those opposing it even after meeting the family today? >> the truth will set you free, exactly what i said. the truth will set you free. if not you must be concerned that you have stuff to fear. i don't know why anyone would not want to know what went on for the first time in the history of our country, an insurrection. this never, ever happened before and now being afraid to find out what happened. >> manchin gets a lot of flack, i think a lot of it justified,
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but he's a good politician. and a lot well-said. republicans have gotten everything they've asked for, but still. at the same time when you watch that clip you just want to grab joe manchin and say, hey, joe, two plus two equals, four, right? this is it. if you can't get 60 votes on this commission, the family of a deceased capitol police officer going door-to-door to plead with republican senators, it's not going to happen. i mean, tonight we'll find out as we wait on that very vote. olivia beaver, congressional reporter for politico, author of the huddle newsletter where she wrote about joe manchin blocking joe biden's bill in february. there's two tracks i think are important, right. manchin is pleading with his republican colleagues to vote for this. he says he doesn't want to get rid of the filibuster. he's also engaged in these
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bipartisan negotiations on the infrastructure. and the only reason those negotiations are happening, i think, is because the white house has not secured his vote to be the 50th vote to get it to reconciliation. so you wonder if there's any crossing over in his mind between these two enterprises he's engaged in? >> no, manchin is holding this very interesting and unique position and so is kyrsten sinema. he's able to push the white house into coming to the negotiating table because again basically threatened to tank whatever bill democrats are hoping to pass in the senate. and even if they use the reconciliation tool, he has power. as we're seeing with the january 6th commission manchin is hoping that republicans will come together, will be negotiating in good faith. and what he's recognizing and even though he's saying he hopes that they find a way, just the odds don't look like that's
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going to happen. democrats are saying they think they have six votes, that's not the ten they need. and senate republicans, house republicans this is all about power. they're putting the idea of winning in the mid-terms and winning back control of both chambers as their number one priority over investigating the tragic event that unfolded in the nation's capitol. and so that's really what this all about, what it boils down to. and this is going to amplify the pressure to nix the filibuster. >> what's particularly galling here is the process by which this came out. sometimes if one party controls one house and the other party controls the other house, there'll be message bills. straight party line they'll pass something with no real intention that the other house is going to take it up. it's a party line vote. you want to sort of put them in a box politically. this was not a message bill. i mean we had benny thompson on
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the show. he negotiated with katko for four months. this wasn't a stunt, this wasn't a bill you passed to box in your opponent and talk about how they're bad people. this was an honest and good faith effort to get this thing passed. >> well, and it is a bipartisan effort. i mean, if you look at the vote in the house, 35 house members, republican house members voted for this legislation. as you say it was negotiated among them. i actually think that joe manchin completely misreads the history of the filibuster. it was always designed to block by super majority the majority. the founders did not intend that. it's the way it has been used, and it's also been used in areas where it blocks progress from civil rights to voting rights, all of those things from the civil war on forward. and so i just think joe manchin
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has it wrong. and he's speaking out two sides of his mouth because he can't believe on the one hand that the commission bill needs to go forward, and then on the other hand, side with the very arcane rules that keeps us from dealing with an issue that touches on our democracy. you just can't have it both ways, and that's what joe manchin is trying to do. >> grassly -- chuck grassly had this to say back on may 4th. he was just at a local event in iowa. and he tells constituents he's confident manchin will hold out against supporting dems sweeping voting rights ethics reform. in some ways that doesn't quite matter because even if you didn't have him, if he's not going to get rid of the filibuster you have it anyway. but it just points, again, to how pivotal he's become for what
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biden and democrats can do. >> right, you know, it's kind of a funny situation where, you know, the progressives that i talked to basically want to say curse you joe manchin but also there's the unique idea he keeps control, he has held a seat that trump won. and so if they didn't have joe manchin in office, democrats wouldn't have power in the senate. so basically because he's a moderate and he is choosing to push certain positions including on key democratic agenda items like the election reforms bill, he basically is holding power over these legislative priorities. and if he's not onboard they're not going to get passed. and that just means there's going to be more and more pressure. and we continue to see it today. >> and there's also a timing question. quickly on this you went through 2009 the obama administration, right, aca was in these bipartisan negotiations for months and months and months.
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and it pushed the passage date way down the road and made things more complicated. that was lost time. do you see history repeating itself right now? >> i do. and i think it's a real lesson basically you've got to do this presidency as having 17 more months and if you don't think like that and you think we have all the time in the world, we're done. >> thank you both. next, are the walls closing in on allen weisselberg? new reporting that the trump exec is tied to another trump scandal. david cornyn has the goods. he joins me next. l. david cornyn has the goods he joins me next all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing disability progression vs aubagio.
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let's get to immunity. now's your moment to get vaccinated. this academic year has been, um, challenging. but i think there's so much success to celebrate. woman: it's been a year like no other. man: yet, for educators across california, the care, compassion, and teaching has never stopped. woman: addressing their unique needs... man: ...and providing a safe learning environment students could count on. woman: join us in honoring the work of educators. together, we will build a better california for all of us. i was born and raised in the bronx, you know that. i tend to bring it up a lot and i grew up knowing all about big new york city public figures and i read the papers and tabloids every day. i remember when they finally got the mob boss convicted for a whole bunch of crimes. the thing is he was basically a
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public criminal for 20 years before they got him. everyone knew what he was up to. he was called the teflon don because charges never seemed stoostick to him. and in the end he was convicted because prosecutors got his lieutenant to flip and testify about the many murders they committed together. >> good evening. this time the wise guy smirk disappeared. john gaudy, the modern godfather, the so-called teflon don, he always escaped the big convictions in the past but not today. guilty of murder and racketeering, 12 counts and now facing a long time in jail. >> from his own mouth over fbi buzz. >> now, there's a reason it took forever to nail gaudy. he was careful and they setup
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all kinds of ways to shield him, right, from criminal liability. and you need solid evidence or good witnesses or both to convict in that kind of case, complex, high profile case. all that is something to remember when you read reports the manhattan district attorney has convened a jury to weigh evidence or that the new york attorney general's office which is cooperating with the manhattan d.a. is criminally investigating trump's right-hand man and cfo allen weisselberg and those two offices are seeking to turn weisselberg into a cooperating witness with mr. trump and the trump organization. allen weisselberg certainly knows trump's business as well as anyone else in the world. he was first hired as an account want by trump's father fred more than 40 years ago and has been the chief financial officer of the trump board over 20 years. and now prosecutors may have another key piece of leverage, e-mails. tied weisselberg to the trump
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inauguration committee, a committee currently being investigated by the attorney general of washington, d.c. for essentially grifting funds to benefit the trump family. and david cornyn, washington bureau chief of mother jones joins me now. tell us what these e-mails are and what they indicate? >> first, we have to remember there's a scale that hasn't gotten a lot of attention. that's about the trump inauguration committee. the pick is what people refer to it as. and it's a civil investigation, not a criminal investigation by the d.c. attorney general for basically taking what was charitable money to non-profit and using it to enrich guess what the trump family. by overpaying payments of the trump hotel for events that were held and events that weren't held at the trump hotel and for holding a lavish party for the trump family costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. basically the attorney general of d.c. has accused the family
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of using the inauguration to line their pockets of hundreds of thousands of dollars. this is corruption from not even of the first day of the presidency but starting the week before. so in that investigation it turns out there was a court filing no one really paid attention to that came out a year ago that had e-mails in it that showed that april of 2018 -- you know, 2017, excuse me, when there were questions about the trump finances, the trump inauguration finances. what did they do? they said allen weisselberg should be in charge of overseeing the internal audit. so this is really weird, right, because it's a non-profit that paid a lot of money to the trump organization probably and properly, that's what we know now and went to the guy who runs the numbers in the trump organization and said you oversee the audit, you look at what's going on here. there's no good explanation for
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this. and so no one picked up on this until i found these e-mails this week. >> so we should also just set the context here which was always the case this inauguration they raised and spent two or three times what the obama inauguration was for what was manifestly a smaller affair. and it's always been a bit of a head scratching thing like where did all the money go? >> $107 million they raised. you're right, it's twice the $53 million obama raised. it's unclear where the money went and they have a lot of trouble afterwards putting together their financials and the reports, and there was a lot of back and forth. stephanie writes about this in her book "melania and me." and so we have allen weisselberg in charge of the company getting some of the questionable payments now overseeing the audit. and to top this off a couple
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weeks ago trying to extend the discovery in the d.c. case in order to take his deposition. so they're finally onto him down in d.c., and they want to bring him in for questioning. >> wait, so they want to bring weisselberg to depose in this case? >> in this case. they went to the judge and said we need more time for discovery because we want to bring him in. so, again, it's a civil case not a criminal case. but it shows yet again he's in the middle of what seems to be -- at least it's an alleged example of trump grift. >> it sort of points to the fact you've got the situation to which the allegation is that the committee is essentially skimming off the top for trump org accountant who would be on the receiving end of those payments and but another example he's in the middle of all of this. he is the guy. they've been saying it forever. we know cy vance and letitia james' offices have their eyes
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on him. we know they've investigated his kids according to their reporting. do you see him as the essential figure based on the reporting here? >> other than some in the immediate family, yes. right because what is trump being investigated for? various types of tax fraud through the trump organization, various types of business fraud. it's a closely held company. it's run with just a few people. there's no middle management, very little from the trump organization. so it's donald trump senior, his three kids, junior, eric and ivanka and allen weisselberg and a few others. so he knows where everything is. he was involved in the trump foundation. remember that was shutdown too, for rampant gross illegality, there's nothing that goes down in the trump world that he's not involved in. so he is the rosetta stone. >> i should say three of his four children. tefany trump, i see you, got your back.
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particularly, or some kind of binding legal order to cut it out, stop. and on that score enter the netherlands. yesterday a dutch court ruled that the royal dutch shell company helped drive climate change, fact check true, and they ordered the company to cut it's enco2 emissions as well as its suppliers and customers by a net 45% by the end of 2030 compared to 2019 levels. now, shell says they'll appeal. but this is landmark ruling. this is the first of its kind. other courts in the eu have issued rulings that have bound governments to be more aggressive in emission targets for controls. but this is the first court order, a specific legally binding emissions target to a fossil fuel company. a lawsuit brought by friends of the earth netherlands among others may be the first of many that use courts to provide the sticks necessary to get the countries on track to keep
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promises. right now there are a lot of carrots out there and there are incentives for energy conversion, big investments in technological chains and noncarbon fuel cheaper and cheaper by the day. the infrastructure bill has these huge climate investments to make the paris target, $100 billion in funding to update the country's electric grid and make it more resilient to worsening climate disasters and shift away from fossil fuel powered cars. the problem, though, is again the paris climate agreement is nonbinding, okay? and every country has their own set of reasons to miss the targets. they've all got their own joe manchins or their own mitch mcconnells or whatever. so that are carrots out there but we've got a real lack of sticks. and now a court has busted out a stick. and now a court has busted out a stick. kes passing] [sfx: fire truck siren]
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new jobless numbers day. the day we see how many americans newly filed for unemployment. and there were 406,000 new unemployment claims last week, down 8.9% from the week before. the fourth week in a row declined. that is encouraging. you see the way that graph is headed. good news that evidence of recovery is continuing. according to the latest numbers, there are still 9 million people out of work. the biden administration is proposing this big jobs package for boosting jobs and wage growth. republicans though, say the republicans is overheating. 24 states, all with republican governors, have said they will cancel covid relief from the federal government for their own states unemployed. and all the while, business owners are whining about spoiled work here's are asking too much for wages or unwilling to do service jobs. are american workers spoiled? is the economy overheating? well, to get the, make the case for the biden administration's
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view of this, the answers to this, i bring in now the labor secretary. the first ever former union official to serve in that role in over four decades. mr. secretary, it is great to have you. there are some people raising these concerns and i was being a little tongue in cheek with the whining there. but that it is extremely hard to find workers, there is a kind of labor shortage, that businesses don't have enough to pay these higher wages. what is your and the administration's view of that? >> i wouldn't agree with that completely across the board. we have 8 million people out of work, looking for work. i can't imagine 8 million people saying, i would rather sit home and collect unemployment and to go work in our country when opportunity presents itself for employment. i think there are lots of reasons we're still at number one. we're still living with the pandemic west see more people in the month of april looking for work than the month of march.
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a great sign. we see the housing industry coming back, when the jobs market comes out. the president rolled out some money for daycare and childcare two weeks ago. that money is going down to states so we can help our childcare industry that was hit so hard during the pandemic. we still have kids learning remotely so families are trying to figure out, what do we do with our kids learning from home. i'm encouraged as we continue to move forward here, we're seeing great job growth in the last three months. we're seeing about a million and a half jobs coming back. as we continue to move through in may, june and july, we will see more growth in those sectors and i have to imagine people want to go back to work. they don't want to be unemployed. there is a lot going on here. by simply saying $300 is enticing people not to go back to work. i can't see it being uniformly across the board, the problem. >> the department of labor does
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a lot of things. what is your most important job? what is the most important thing that you, the secretary of labor, do? >> there's a lot of important things. to think about it -- >> the most important. we help the american workers from the time they wake up to the time they go to bed. right now my priorities are making sure the american jobs plan passes. the president, myself and four other cabinet secretaries to work on the american jobs plan. we need to make sure people are working in safe working conditions. with the rescue plan, unemployment, the president allocated from congress $2 million for the unemployment system. we saw problems throughout the pandemic with people not being able to access their claims. and also, with fraud. so there is a lot. you can't make one priority. there are lots of priorities that we have to do at the same time. >> only question, there is a piece of legislation called the pro act. it would be in some ways the most important labor legislation, some say, since
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back with the new deal. what is your role? what has the administration done to prioritize or push for it? or is that later down the pipeline? what are you doing to make that happen? >> obviously, we are having many conversations about it. you have to get to a number to pass it in the senate. that's something we're working on along with minimum wage. you can't force a vote or can't force something if you don't have the votes right now. and we're working only. the president has been very clear only issue of the pro acts. making sure passes to give people to opportunity, if they want to join the union, they can without people using tactics against them. and the president appointed a labor task force with cabinet secretaries on it, chaired by the vice president, time co-chair. looking at labor and creating opportunities and pathways. this is all about the middle class. this isn't just about labor unions. this is about creating opportunities to build the middle class and allow people the get into a middle class that quite honestly some would say
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hand existed in decades. >> of course, in boston, you were mayor. you left and you appoint ad new police commissioner, dennis white. shortly after that it became clear that there were allegations years ago about domestic violence that he had engaged in. you have denied any knowledge of that. there is an affidavit by a former police commissioner saying someone in the city and you had to have known about these accusations against dennis white. i want to ask you, can you say definitively, that neither you nor people in your staff knew about these allegations against man that you appointed to be police commissioner? >> i knew nothing about it. i actually found out about at this time night before i went for my hearing in front of congress for this job. if i had known before hand, as i said in my statement, i would have taken a whole different route here. a different course of action. >> are you in touch with the
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sort of liaisons to the senate on this vote? on the american jobs plan vote? we're in a situation in which the, there is a sort of mansion traffic jam. what are they going to do? what are those negotiations like? >> i've been in contact with many senators, talking to them about it. there are bits and pieces of this bill that everyone seems to like and i think we'll continue to have these negotiations. i have not spoken directly to senator manchin about this bill but i have had many conversations with him. i'll be having a conversation about this. the jobs plan, the family plan at some point. it is a conversation right now and the president has made it clear that he's willing to work, wants to work with everyone as well as all of us want to work with everyone to move this important piece of legislation and plan forward. this is about the american people. it's about the american economy. about forward looking plan.
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and there is lots of great pieces of it. i think everyone in the world knows now what is in that bill. from job training to broad band to roads and bridges. everything everyone in every city in america are looking for. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that's y'all yinl. good evening, ali. >> good evening. have a great night and thank you at hole for joining us. rachel has a well earned night off this evening. and i kind of can't believe i'm saying these words out loud. in 1993, members of congress had an ice cream party. it led to one of the greatest c-span banners in all of c-span history. capitol hill ice cream party. it was supposed to be an opportunity for members of congress to mingle with

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