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with for the next weeks to months. when i talk with my family, i don't expect things to fundamentally change well into next year would be my best guess. >> we are back to where we started in april when everyone said that was the worst period. something to keep in mind. that does it for our show tonight. thanks for watching. i'll be back at 6:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow. keep it right here right now on msnbc. good evening. i'm joy reid. 14 points. that's how far donald trump has fallen behind joe biden according to a poll out today. that poll shows that 50% of registered voters say they would vote for biden, only 36% support trump. it's the late nest a series of polls that spell trouble for this president. the real clear poll ficitics po average has trump trailing biden by ten points. what is trump doing?
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he's just bathing in the same pit of racism and racial grievance that defined his 2020 campaign. except now, he's doing it in an even more frantic way. as the new york time"the new yo, trump is pushing race, and he's been so inflammatory on race in such a narrow amount of time. trump has equated black lives matter protesters with anarchi t anarchists and terrorists, and he speaks of preserving america's heritage, using that racially loaded term to defend confederate monuments. on top of that, trump is stoking racial resentment by retweeting videos of african-americans attacking white people. and he made the baseless accusation that barack obama, the country's first black president, committed treason.
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joining me tonight are my guests. thank you all for being here. i'm going to start with you, aisha, "the new york times" piece on president trump, this is what "the new york times" writes, answering to his own instincts in what he thinks my people want, as he off puts it to advisers. the president is exploiting racial divisions in a way that appeals to only a segment of his party. per your reporting, does president trump understand "my people" to mean white people? >> i think that when you hear the president talking, i don't want to try to get into his head, but he has said just a few weeks ago that maga loves the black people. maga loves african-americans, seeming to say that maga does not include african-americans. and so he's used that sort of language in the past.
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now, it is clear the president does have this outreach that he does to black voices for trump and black surrogates that he does use to talk about his record and things of that nature. but as you said, there has been a lot of very mixed messages coming from him, particularly with those clips that he's tweeting like just with random black people attacking a white person without context or anything like that. it's not the message that he's sending is one that is rooted in division. >> let me go to you, anthony. because you're absolutely right, from a reporting point of view, they're not going to blatantly said that. donald trump said the magas love the black people, which implies there aren't black people in the magas. there are a few blacks that show up to entertain his base.
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but when he's saying things like that, is that a coded way of saying his people are white americans and he thinks in his mind that overt racist appeals are what they want? >> well, he's experimenting. the kung flu statement, that racist statement yesterday was part of that experimentation. he's searching for what he thinks is the rubix cube answer to getting him re-elected, and that is more white turnout in november. so he's decided that he's going to make this is race-baiting race war. he's going to do everything he can to defy the people, joy, and hoping he can get his base to turn out in terms of voter participation at a higher percentage than last time. so right now he's experimenting. it's june. by august, he'll have a much more refined, much more negative, much more racist pitch. >> and just the problem with that, maria, is number one, the
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polls show that the majority of white voters are not interested in it, that they agree more and more and more with people of color about things like policing and black lives matter even. so he's pitching to not even a majority of white americans at this point. but he -- what he's doing does have a precedent. i want to play a great montage put together by the wonderful people here. sit the thing that's the most like donald trump in a lot of ways. that would be one george wallace. >> law and order must be first restored nationwide. >> the people of both races are sick and tired of the breakdown of law enforcement. >> these are anarchists, these are not protesters. the fake news say the protesters were lovely. >> you anarchists better have your day now, because you're through after november 5th in this country. >> our nation has been gripped by professional anarchists, violent mobs, arsonists,
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looters, antifa. >> they are mobs, employing the tactics of the communists. >> if the democrats gape power, then the rioters will be in charge. >> the american people are tired of some of the treasonal conduct allowed in the name of academic freedom. >> americans want law and order, they demand it. >> when does it come to have racial overtones to stand for law and order? >> you were not even alive when all of this was happening. this kind of -- >> i think this -- >> go on. >> i think this is the very first time that donald trump descended and declared his presidency, he used the worst names that you can call a whole community, racist and criminals, and blanketed it. and he successfully went on and said -- talked about law and order, talked about being anti-trade, talked about saying that immigrants were the problem. and these were dusted off the
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make america great of the 1950s, 1940s rhetoric and nothing has changed, sadly, in his -- in his current pitch. most presidents, when they're going to go for re-election, they try to create policy positions and tell the american people how they'll improve their lives. he has that opportunity given that we are teetering on democrat economic depression that he's creating, that he has not addressed the pandemic of the covid crisis. and that he is right now overseeing the 1960 level civil unrest. he has so many opportunities to do the right thing, and he just does not know how to. part of the challenge with trump, though is what he doesn't recognize is you can't get to the white house by such a marginal base, because you have so many individuals that have come back to the democratic party during the midterms. i'm speaking specifically to suburban white women.
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they were so hurt by the separation of children at the border. under covid, the president is separating families once again. he's asking parents to sign awa. we just have to look at his anti-immigrant, anti-people of color policies to know where he really stands. the policing task force that president obama put together to talk about police brutality, to talk about changing the culture, the need to make sure that we are resetting, because we knew there was a problem, one of the first things he did when he took office was zero that program out. he let all of these police departments and communities holding a bag of empty promises. he did the same thing when you talk about immigration reform. he had a huge defeat with daca last week, so what did he do on monday? he's trying to rescind immigration visas once again. this is what he knows. and the 2020 election is going to be based on two things -- one, the world view of donald trump, of us versus them.
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versus biden having to come back to this idea of coalition building, that we are stronger together, that we are americans of all shades, of all religious preferences. and that is what makes us strong. and that is -- i don't think that donald trump has the ability to pivot. but that is where we are. but we do know that he has sent out three trial balloons. what he's afraid of, if you listen to the first rally and yesterday, he laid out three things he's afraid of. he's afraid of kids in cages. he's very much afraid of covid. he tried to payment thy ed tied chinese. and he's really afraid of unemployment. he's saying he will bring unemployment back, don't worry about it, come september. >> and the challenge that donald trump has right now is that if he's trying to play the role of george wallace, george wallace was not the incumbent, he was challenging the incumbent, saying the incumbent was failing and causing chaos.
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donald trump is the one presiding over chaos. meanwhile, he's running against what he pretended to be a regular guy. there is a brilliant piece that talks about the fact that trump is struggling because he's running against a white guy. >> here is an ad that i want to show you. this is from unite the country pac talking about joe biden. >> the 2020 economic crash. we've been through this before. then vice president joe biden oversaw the 2009 american recovery act. 14 million jobs created. the auto industry rescued. the longest sustained job growth in american history. with 6 million kept out of poverty, and less than 1% waste. he's done it before, he'll do it again. >> i mean, it doesn't really
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work if you're trying to pretend to be -- you're playing the role of george wallace. but you're the incumbent, anthony. >> listen, it's like if roy cone had a baby with george wallace, it would be donald trump. and then he got into the white house. i think the president is making a big mistake. he's actually george wall lals of 1963, joy. that's the george wallace that was embarrassed by the kennedys when the national guard came to the university of alabama to enforce civil rights. so what's happening right now, the three or four of us and many others around america, there's a beautiful, colorful mosaic of americans that are going to come together and defeat him because he's the tyranny of the minority right now. and as a republican, what i need to do is go into those precincts and explain to those moderate republicans that he's the wrong person for america, that he's systemically dangerous to our
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civilized system. he's going to lose, but we can't let our guard down given those poll numbers. do not be complacent back there. he was behind secretary clinton by 15 points in june of 2016 and won the election. so we have to dig in right here, right now until the end. >> and, you know, i'm sure the white house is not complacent, they're throwing everything they can at the election. except none of it is working at the moment. if you look at these polls, just going to state polls, ohio, biden is up by one point and trump won that by eight points in 2016. wisconsin, biden is up 49-41 in the marquette poll. in texas, a state that is supposed to become a purple state, trump 44, biden 43. you look at how well progressives are doing in states like kentucky. i interviewed charles booker earlier today on this network.
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he is, you know, in good shape to win that primary, and he's the more progressive of the two candidates. this is an issue, do republicans on the hill understand that donald trump could wind up being a drag on their ability to hold the senate? >> i think at this point, they know that republicans on the hill know that they're tied to donald trump. they're tied to president trump, and his fate is going to be their fate. and you've seen some of this where president trump has kind of put out a warning to the hill in other interviews saying, look, don't be cool on me, don't try to distance yourself from me, because my base is strong. you need me and you better stick with me. so i think right now, their fates are definitely tied. and it is early, we have to say it is still june. there is a lot that can happen between now and then. and he still does have a strong base. but these polls will be worrying to any campaign, particularly to
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an incumbent who had an economy, had all these things and now just can't seem to get the winds that they want to put up. they can't get the full rallies. they can't do what they were doing before. >> well, he has a strong base, but it's in the 40s and he needs 50 plus one to win. we'll see what happens. thank you guys very much. appreciate you all. meanwhile, president trump's coronavirus denial, saying it's going away. as cases in the u.s. hit a record. daily total of over 36,000. plus, the former lead prosecutor in the roger stone case testifies on the political pressure to go easy on trump's friends. >> what i saw is that roger stone was being treated differently from every other defendant. he received breaks that are, in my experience, unheard of. >> that on the same day that
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another of trump's pals, michael flynn, receives a favorable decision from a trump appointed judge. much more ahead. stay with us. judge. much more ahead. stay with us
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we're doing so well after the plague. it's going away. >> just for the record, because a lot of people don't want to report this, the reality is, we've had huge declines in the case rate, okay? >> every day, we're one day closer to putting the coronavirus in the past. that's what leadership looks like. that's the leadership of president donald trump! >> no, none of that is true. welcome back. as donald trump and his administration try to turn the page from the coronavirus pandemic, the u.s. recorded its highest daily one-day total with more than 36,000 new coronavirus cases. hospitalizations and caseloads hit record highs in roughly half a dozen states. in texas, governor greg abbott told local media the state is
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facing a massive outbreak. yesterday, arizona reported a record high in new cases, as donald trump visited a mega church in phoenix, with limited coronavirus precautions. also yesterday, members of the coronavirus task force had a very different message than the people they work for. take a look. >> in some respects we've done very well. however, in other areas of the country, we're seeing a disturbing surge of infections that looks like it's a combination, but one of the things is an increase in community spread. and that's something that i'm really quite concerned about. >> we've all done the best that we can do to tackle this virus, and the reality is that it brought this nation to its knees. >> meanwhile, as cases skyrocket in the sun belt, new york, new jersey, and connecticut announced a plan to impose a quarantine on visitors on people from states with big outbreaks.
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thank you both for being here. congresswoman, i want to play your governor, ron desantis, and a trio of comments that he made, including today about the coronavirus outbreak. take a listen. >> ultimately, we've got to trust people to make good decisions. we're not shutting down. you know, we're going to go forward and continue to protect the most vulnerable. go look at new york and what new york had. that's a spike. to say there's a spike, there's never been a spike in florida. it's been, you know, relatively modest. >> so june 11, june 16, and today, those are his three sets of comments. congresswoman, is the governor of florida taking good care of the people of florida when it comes to covid-19? >> absolutely not. and he's going to be responsible for people dying because of his
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failed leadership. i mean, i don't know what he's talking about. today we have the biggest number that we've ever had. 5,500 people. that's the biggest -- that's the biggest number we've had in florida on a daily basis. this is shocking. both the governor, under pressure, i assume from the business community, as well as the president who he's also following, are going to be responsible for thousands of deaths in this country because of their failed leadership. we should have hit this with a hammer from the beginning, starved the virus, then done contact tracing, and leadership would have had everybody with a mask on. now in south florida, the mayors have taken hold and have said everybody has to wear a mask when they go out. unless they're doing vigorous exercising, they've got to be wearing a mask.
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we should have been doing that months ago literally. this is tragic. and it's a total failure of leadership. >> you know, doctor, we've seeing all of these videos of people refusing to wear a mask and people resisting it on a political basis or idealogical basis. as the congresswoman mentioned, the 5,511 cases as weekly death rates are averaging upward. florida has been tracking coronavirus cases for four months, but about 27% of all infections have come in just the past seven days. wednesday was the ninth consecutive day with a new caseload above 2,000 and the 16th day now above 1,000. florida is one of those states that new york is staying you need to quarantine if you come from there. given florida's population size, which is extremely large, and given the fact that it has the most elderly population in the country twhashgs a
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country, what are we talking about in terms of potential risk. new york had a huge outbreak. are we looking at something on that scale in the state of florida? >> we are. not only in florida, but multiple other states. i'm looking at texas, arizona, alabama, the carolinas and others that are not only seeing a rise in the number of cases, but the rise in positivity rates. we're not even testing all those individuals whom have the infection, and we're seeing a rise in hospitalizations. seven states today have set a record in terms of the number of hospitalizations. and there are now reports coming out from multiple states, including in arizona, where the icus are already nearing capacity. and in arizona overall, 88% of icu beds are already full. and these -- this is the same pattern that we saw in new york. and in the new york area prior to the huge spike. unfortunately, in new york, they were able to contain the virus by imposing strict shelter in
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place orders. but i can't imagine that we would be willing to do that in so many other states. and the unfortunate thing about all of this is we couch pld hav prevented it and reopened more safely. but we have not and now people are suffering the consequences. >> and congresswoman, you know, i lived in florida for a long time. is jackson memorial hospital, a hospital that takes a lot of patients, are the hospitals in florida ready for a huge outbreak on the level new york had in the earliest days? >> no. you know, we're used to expansion in hospitals in south florida because of hurricanes. and we do have plans for that. but if we're going into the scale of new york, we're going to be overwhelmed. and it was -- i just can't keep repeating. it was unnecessary. it didn't have to happen. if we had proper leadership, both at the national and at the
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state level, we could have clearly contained this, at least to a smaller number. >> yeah. well, congratulations to the united states. we now join countries like russia and brazil that are now restricted in entering the european union as we have not contained the coronavirus outbreak. it's quite a place to be. thank you both very much. coming up, attorney general william barr is set to testify next month before the house judiciary committee and sure to face some pointed questions about the prosecutions of trump allies of roger stone and michael flynn. and we'll bring you the latest on those prosecutorial debacles, next. next in peytonville, there's lots of ways to save on auto insurance. really? yeah. very proud of that. with smartride® from nationwide, they can get discounts for safe driving. does she get one? mrs. carmichael?
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here. what i heard repeatedly was that this leniency was happening because of stone's relationship to the president. that the acting u.s. attorney for the district of columbia was receiving heavy pressure from the highest levels of the department of justice, and that his instructions to us were based on political considerations. and i was told that the acting u.s. attorney was giving stone a break because he was afraid of the president of the united states. >> assistant u.s. attorney aaron zelensky was one of the four prosecutors who quit the stone case in february after the justice department decided to down play stone's criminal conduct and rediuce his recommended sentence. >> what i saw is that roger stone was being treated differently from every other defendant. he received breaks that are, in my experience, unheard of. and all the more so for a defendant in his circumstances. a defendant who lied to congress who remained unrepentant and
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made threats against a judge and witness in his case. >> justice department responded to zelensky's allegations in a statement saying -- >> stone was sent tensed to three years in prison for lying to congress about his contacts with wikileaks. and the stone investigation is just part of a long pattern of william barr putting politics ahead of justice, and that is next. ead of justi, ceand that i next home and auto bundle. we all know customers can save big. [ cellphone chimes ] um, so, we're talking 24/7 protection. as it -- [ cellphone chimes ] [ clears throat ] mara, hello. [ cellphone clicking ] yeah? we can see you on your phone. oh, my bad. you can continue. [ clicking continues ] [ cellphone chimes ] i think she's still on the phone.
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mr. barr's actions make clear that in his justice department, the president's allies get special treatment. the president's enemies, real and imagined, are targeted for extra scrutiny. and the needs of the american people and the needs of justice are generally ignored. >> welcome back. that was house judiciary
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committee chairman jerry nadler's stinging indictment of attorney general william barr. instead of being the country's chief law enforcement officer, barr's conduct makes it seem like he's donald trump's personal lawyer. former attorney general donald ayer outlined why he leaves barr is using the doj to advance trump's political interests. >> i was privileged to serve in the department of justice under two republican and one democratic president, and i'm here because i believe that william barr poses the greatest threat in my lifetime to our rule of law and public trust in it. he does not believe in its core principle, that no person is above the law. he has regularly undermined the authority of independent decision making processes and career professionals, whoand hes done this by his own statements such as last march when he whitewashed the mueller's
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reports findings on obstruction of justice and when he conducted key conclusions reached by the inspector general and the fbi election interference probe. >> the house judiciary committee will question barr directly when he testifies late next month. cynthia, i want to go to you on this first. here's an interview that william barr gave back in february. this was just after the justice department overruled the recommendations by career prosecutors that roger stone needed to spend 7 to 9 years in prison. and here he is. >> the president has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case. i am responsible for everything that happens in the department, but the thing i have most responsibility for are the issues that are brought to me for decision, and i will make those decisions based on what i think is the right thing to do, and i'm not going to be bullied
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or influenced by anybody, and i said whether it's congress, newspaper editorial boards, or the president. i'm going to do what i think is right. >> it's ironic -- >> what he seems s ts to right whatever donald trump needs or whatever donald trump's friends need to keep them out of prison. what he said back in february is what one might call horse pucky. your thoughts on what it is that william barr seems to be up to? >> well, you don't have to have a conversation with donald trump to know what he wants. i know what he wants and i've never talked to the man in my life. because he has a running dialogue. that's much of a defense for me. i had two thoughts about today. first of all, it does show how cavalier they are. they're so sure, barr is so sure that he is above any oversight, that he's kind of cavalier about the corruption.
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line attorneys don't get to know important things like the president and the attorney general are pressuring for a certain sentencing guideline. yet the chief of the fraud and public corruption section at the justice department -- i'm sorry, at the u.s. attorney's office, apparently told him that. there's a certain confidence about we're above everything. and i'm sure that that chief is now getting a subpoena. but let me say one other thing about the stone case. on some level, forget about it. because the president is going to pardon him any way. i think we see that. but the damage of the stone case is what really is important. the damage to the people's perception that when they go to a courtroom, they get a fair shake. that's so fundamental to our criminal justice system, and it's challenged in so many ways. not only just in police cases and policing and sentencing and
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now add this. it just is undermining and so rips the fabric of our country. and these why it's more important than roger stone and him going to jail. because let's just face it. he's not going to jail. >> yeah. the michael flynn case is obviously even more -- i don't know which one is worse. michael flynn admitted to lying to the fbi, now he's getting to skate thanks to a donald trump judge, which is why people need to vote for the united states senate, because the senate decides who the judges are. but i have to ask, david, what is surprising about this? honestly, back during the george herbert walker bush era, william sapphire called mr. barr the -- that he was the coverup general. that he assisted in undermining the prosecutions of lawrence walsh tried to bring in
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iran-contra. he suggested pardons. he's been this guy since mr. ayer worked with him. so are republicans rediscovering that mr. barr is exactly who he was under george herbert walker bush, under george w. bush i presume? i didn't see him jump up saying dick cheney didn't need -- what is different about him now that is so surprising to so many people? >> for me, the best guidance about the whole trump justice department was imparted to me before there was a trump justice department, on a reporting visit to hungary early in 2016. and a wise observer of the hungarian dictatorship explained to me how it worked. hungary is a member of the european union, you can't just shoot people in the street. this observer said in a state like hungary in a modern rule of law, the most important power of people who would abuse justice is not the power to persecute
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the innocent, but to protect the guilty. so in hungary, you would have two restaurants, both of which had some health and safety violations. one owned by a friend of the president, or the prime minister, and one was not. one was owned by an on poe nnlt. for the opponent, there would be the law. the friend, the special favor. that has been the way the trump justice department has worked. president trump has called for persecutions of his opponents. by and large, he's been unsuccessful. but what he's got are -- is impunity for his friends. for the people under investigation in the mueller report. he got the coverup and the suppression of the mueller report and redactions that were very much not driven by the need to protect national security but driven by the need to protect secrets embarrassing to the president. >> but i guess my question is, isn't that also what, you know,
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george bush, sr. got from the same guy? william barr has been doing this since the late '80s, making sure that the president's friends, that friends of ronald reagan and george herbert walker bush would not go down in iran contra. this is his career. this isn't some new thing he's doing, it's what he does. >> this is a new thing in the history of the united states. look, because it's not barr alone. barr alone could not do this. barr has associates. people are being promoted. we have seen attempts to change who holds u.s. attorneys offices. look what happened in washington, d.c. president trump had an independent washington, d.c. u.s. attorney, jessie lu. in order to get her out of time, barr and trump held out to her the promise of a promotion. she then resigned, and the moment that resignation was in
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hand, they yanked away that promotion. they offered the same trick to jeffrey berman. he didn't resign, because he had seen before the promise had been yanked away. so there is a new and more coordinated strategy to get control of the u.s. attorney's offices, and to use them to protect trump's friends and maybe some day president trump himself. >> and very quickly, before we go, cynthia, as he does just do whatever he thinks donald trump wants, and he just assumes he knows what he wants, donald trump said he would like his former national security adviser, long-time republican donor and friend, john bolton, to go to prison. do you see william barr has it in him to do that for donald trump? >> no, i do not. let me tell you something, i think everybody is disheartened by the flynn dismiss al dismiss. that is not over. it may be heard by a court of
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welcome back. after weeks of demonstrations, taking to the streets, crying out for action on police reform in this country, that came to a stand still in the u.s. senate today. democrats blocked a vote to consider the republican backed proposal with a vote of 55-45. after the vote, chuck schumer blasted it as lacking substance. >> the senate democrats just sent a very clear signal that the senate republican justice act lacks the substance and the strong, desperately needed reforms to stop police brutality against black americans. this bill lost because it was woefully inadequate. it never would have passed, and mcconnell provided no path to improve it. so it was going to lose. the minute he put it together, and the more cynical among us
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would say that's why he did it. >> meanwhile, the house plans to vote in a sweeping democratic proposal tomorrow that includes a ban on chokehold, no-knock warrants and changes to qualified immunity to police officers, items not included in the proposal. joining me now is richard blumenthal of connecticut. thank you for being here. i just want to put up on the screen for our viewers what was in the gop versus democratic billing and why the democrats said the republican bill was inadequate. the ban on the chokeholds, in the in the republican bill. tracking police misconduct is in the democratic bill, a state registry is in the republican bill. the federal civil rights law that would be amended by democrats would not be amended by republicans. the changes in qualified immunity, not in the republican bill. a ban on no-knock warrants, not in the republican bill. et cetera. they just say collect more data. i want to note that today
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charges were -- i mean, an officer was fired. there haven't been charges in the breonna taylor case, but this is from the ap. the termination letter was sent because the officer violated wa rounds into her apartment on march. that the deadly force was directed at a person that posed no imminent threat. have republicans explained why they oppose getting rid of the no knock warrant that caused breonna taylor to be killed while she was in bed? >> they failed to explain why they have no ban on no knock warrants, why there is no ban on choke holds, why there is no ban on racial profiling, why there is no standard use of force and why, as you said, there is no reform of qualified immunity. and section 242 criminal prosecution, a change in the standard from willfully to reckless disregard, which is
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essential to deterrence. if you look at the minneapolis police officer as he put his knee on george floyd's neck for eight and a half minutes, he looks with utter impunity into the camera knowing that he would never be charged or prosecuted and under the standard now, there is going to be a challenge to do it. but there is no explanation for why there is a complete lack of real accountability, real reform with real teeth in that republican bill. i think mitch mcconnell, frankly, was just looking for a partisan talking point. he knew what the outcome was going to be. he knew that republicans and democrats was split along partisan lines. but there is a path forward, and i know from my republican colleagues that some of them want some real action here. >> and is it going to be better for democrats to just wait out until the next senate hoping that democrats retake the senate
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and there is a more favorable environment to maybe take up the house bill that's currently worked its way into the house? >> this issue is too important to wait, number one. the people who are marching in the streets want real action. i have been with them at probably 15 demonstrations. it's so powerful and so passionate but peaceful. and the house tomorrow will pass a real bill. the congressional backed caucus called the senate republican bill a fake, watered down reform. the congressional -- the leadership conference called it menial. the fact is the senate can act, and we must act now. time is not on our side because more african-americans and people of color will fall prey to these abusive police tactics. >> we do know that now the three suspects in the ahmad berry
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killing have been charged with murder and malice. on the idea of passing an anti-lynching law, a lot of people saw that as a lynching on tape, it doesn't seem that republicans are interested in doing any of that. is the campaign committee prepared to spend some money advertising aggressively against the senators who refused to pass real reform? and that includes mitch mcconnell. >> joy, my great democratic colleague, kamala harris, has said we are in the midst of a movement, not a moment. we have to regard it as a political movement and do whatever is necessary to make the american people aware that there must be accountability. there must be accountability for law enforcement, and there also has to be political accountability for republicans who are unwilling to take a stand. and going back to your first question, there is no justifiable explanation for
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delay or diluting what needs to be done. we know what is necessary, and we can do it if we come together through the judiciary committee as we do with a lot of bipartisan legislation. there is a path forward. >> well, we hope to see what you all do. and there are a lot of seats up, especially a lot of southern seats where some money could be spent to make that message clear in the states. thank you very much, sir. really appreciate your time. this friday i'm hosting a special event with members of the congressional black caucus on police reform, and we want to hear from you. that is next.
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what happened in the united states senate today was that we saw the very stark difference between talking about a problem and doing something about it. one party, in this case the democrats, has legislative answers in mind to address the theory of a majority of americans about police brutality, racial profiling and police abuse and killing predominantly of black, brown people. mitch mcconnell and his senatorings including tim scott of south carolina have done a lot of talking. but what they have actually offered is studies and grants. oh, yes, and more far right wing overwhelmingly white male judges. stacking the courts for the far right is the only action they're willing to take.
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that's not what america or this moment are demanding. several republican talkers, klein are on the ballot in november, and they may discover that when you're all talk, particularly at a time when the country in so many ways is crying out or change, you could wind out talking yourself out of a job. and speaking of this moment of reckoning in america, please join me friday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern for a special town hall event. we're calling it the road to reform, and my guest for the full hour will be members of the congressional black caucus, chairwoman karen bass and congressman hakeem jeffreys. the best part is you are asking the questions. if you want to participate, please go to we want to get as many of them in as possible so that we can get to them. thank you so much for being with us. don't go anywhere because "all in" with chris hayes is up next.
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tonight on "all in," american failure. think he was kidding now? trump pulls funding for testing as the coronavirus explodes in states like texas and florida, and the national curve reaches new heights. beto o'rourke will join me from texas and fill murphy on the northeast quarantine for visitors from outbreak states. why democrats are impeaching bill barr after today's stunning accusations of corruption. plus, why is louisville still waiting for justice for breonna taylor. and the trouble trump is having running against a white male candidate when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. here we are again, faster than i thought it would take, but we have set the single day record for new krr cases in the country. more than 36,000 new infections


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