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obviously it's been an avalanche of news. "the beat with ari melber" do so. as long as he doesn't violate starts right now. any law regarding confidential you're going to need all six information or classified hours of primetime, everybody information, the president gets is, to unpack everything. to use who he wants to. >> let's break this down. >> it's huge and we have some i'm show you exactly where special breakdowns of it. i haven't seen anything quite mulvaney basically owns himself, like that presser in a while, which is why since we've come on chuck. thank you. the air they put out a new as mentioned, we're statement walking this back. reporting on the beat right now but what he said might be a much after this bombshell admission, more accurate reflection of what happened than this new lawyered plus new impeachment witnesses statement. listen closely to that key point coming forward. much later in the hour i have an from mulvaney. exclusive interview with a well take a listen. placed insider raising new alarm bells about rudy giuliani. and donald trump's self-dealing >> the president gets to set hits a level that experts say is foreign policy and gets to an unconstitutional move that choose who to do so. could back fire. as long as it doesn't violate but we begin with the breaking any law. >> as long as he doesn't violate news rocking the white house and any law. that's a big caveat. taking the impeachment probe up to an 11. it's the center of the impeachment probe's inquiry, whether trump did something illegal or unconstitutional, president trump's top aide just contradicted president trump, withholding aid to a foreign admitting trump pushed a quid country that was, of course, pro quo plot, conditioning appropriated by congress for his ukraine funding on a political own political gain. probe involving the dnc. now, the democrats largely are leading the impeachment probe. they're investigating this.
>> you were directly involved in the law that mulvaney is talking the decision to withhold funding about there, they say he from ukraine. violated the congressional law can you explain to us now which appropriates funds. definitively why? >> did he also mention to me in not for the president to the past the corruption related override. and of course the other laws to the dnc server? against abusing or taking a absolutely. no question about that. thing of value in a coming but that's it. that's why we held up the money. campaign. now, the whole reason for mr. >> that's why we held up the money for ukraine. mulvaney's unusual appearance in that's the president's chief of the briefing room is something staff, who also runs the budget we haven't even mentioned, coming up on 30 minutes into the broadcast, that trump has done a office, admitting to the thing trump has denied, that they did few other things. he's cancelled all regular press condition the money for ukraine on the political probe. briefings. the last one was on march 11th, this is astounding. 220 days ago. this was an unusual press this is important. briefing to do damage control on this is rattling the white house the news that a trump hotel will tonight and we'll get to all of that. host this international g-7 but i want you to see what happened. this quid pro quo bribe has now summit. mulvaney today basically saying been admitted in plain sight by that donald trump insists that the guy in charge of the money. despite the huge international marketing benefits, this won't so there are tapes. we have them. personally profit for him. and as reporters took in an all this coming as the senate is admission so frank and planning for the potential trial self-incriminating it seemed more like a perry mason episode of donald trump. the plans are starting to than real life, they then trickle out that they would meet
clarified to the chief of staff, six days a week during said okay, so just to be clear. trial with republican senators the demand for that investigation into the democrats hearing the case. it is a case now backed by, look was why you withheld funding? at this, a majority of and mulvaney said again, yes. americans, 52%, which reflects a >> so the demand for an shift for donald trump over time and far more support for investigation into the democrats was part of the reason that he impeachment than other presidents faced at this similar point in their probes. ordered to withhold funding to in fact only about a third of ukraine? >> the look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was the nation ever backed impeaching clinton. part of the thing that he was nixon, you see he got up to 58%, worried about in corruption with that nation. but that was when his own party >> there it is. said conviction appeared imminent and it was also the quid meet quo. i never new hustlers confessed week he resigned. we all know political opinion in stereo. can be quite polarized. that's a famous line that really but facts do change things. applies to the news here, given the nixon example suggests that. and this is what may be driving this confession. and in that song, mr. davis goes the increase on your screen. on to talk about people who a majority now thinking it's confess on video turning out time for donald trump to be evidence, confession and impeached, and that was before the new testimony came out fingerprints, so watch what comes out your mouth or you'll corroborating the give the d.a. a case from here whistle-blowers and before mr. to down south. mulvaney just came out to the and with all that big willie white house lectern and admitted
a bribe. talk, you're playing yourself. donald trump's top aide undercutting what was, of so do you think mr. mulvaney course, something you've heard just played himself? his last key defense to impeachment. well, today a reporter gave him one more chance, noting he literally described an illegal >> there was no quid pro quo. quid pro quo. and here was mulvaney's reply. there was nothing. >> did he also mention to me in >> what you just described is a the past the corruption related to the dnc server? quid pro quo. it is funding will not flow absolutely. no question about that. >> there was no quid pro quo. unless the investigation into at all. the democratic server happened >> to be clear what you just described was a quid pro quo. as well. >> we do that all the time with >> we do -- we do that all the foreign policy. time with foreign policy. >> there was no quid pro quo, >> we do it all the time. unlike biden. it's easier to prove a quid pro >> that's it. that's why we held up the money. quo bribe when a suspect admits >> that's why we held up the it. i want to turn to the legal experts we have on this money. glenn kirnschner is with me whe explosive story. we come back. schner is with me whn paul butler and jenter todd, we come back day system good to see you, and a reporter just scan the sensor with your reader, who was in that briefing room. iphone or android and manage your diabetes. you see her right here today. with the freestyle libre 14 day system, wow, what a room to be in, a continuous glucose monitor, you can check your glucose levels any time, francesca chambers. without fingersticks. good evening, everyone. >> hey, ari. ask your doctor to write a prescription for the
>> paul. >> hi, ari. freestyle libre 14 day system. >> hi. you can do it without fingersticks. paul, what did we just see in that briefing room? learn more at freestylelibre.us and what would you do with a suspect if you had them on a charge and they talked like that? >> i would think this is my lucky day as a prosecutor. it's not every day you get the co-conspirators all admitting to the conspiracy on national television. so here's the thing about -- >> if you were investigating a case that involved a quid pro quo bribe and you got that, just what we saw there in that interview, would you take them into custody? >> i'd arrest, i'd prosecute and i'd get a big fat conviction, because what we have is a confession. so here's the thing. a quid pro quo could actually be legal in some contexts. nobody has a right to military aid from the united states. and so the united states can condition its aid on legitimate state objectives. so if trump really were concerned about corruption in
ukraine and he wanted to make sure they were doing something about their own internal that's a confession. whether you call that extortion, politics and good government, he could say, yeah, get that bribery, campaign finance straight and then we'll give you some military assistance. violations or what alexander but you can't do that to advance hamilton called it, an your own political objectives, impeachable offense as an abuse of your public office and a and that's what trump was doing and that's pretty much what both violation of your public trust. the acting chief of staff and frankly it qualifies as all of those things and mick mulvaney just said it out loud. sondland, one of the three amigos in ukraine, they both now, the fact that they tried to admitted that today. >> jennifer, how do you view walk it back too little too late is an indication of just how this admission in the context of the impeachment probe? damaging that accurate has mr. mulvaney just put the confession really is. white house at the center of the alleged crime that he was -- i so that is impeachment game guess he thought he was over. it should be conviction in the defending? >> well, ari, i don't have rap senate and removal game over and lyrics today, but i do have hello, president pence. william shakespeare. and i think there's a method to >> wow. and glenn, i just want to be mulvaney's madness here. clear as we show people this believe it or not, i think he's because there's so much trying to be a bit clever. happening and there's also the private testimony. all he has admitted at this mr. mulvaney is not a spokesman, he's not an attorney, he's not point, that the quid pro quo was some outer orbit person.
about was investigating the i want to make sure we all remember he's in charge of the democrats and looking into budget. and the whole debate is over whether the ukrainians have the whether the money was misused in server. a plot that might be a >> i'm going to have to jump in conspiracy. because we've got some of the and so he is a very key witness reporting here just to make sure in contrast to other people that we're all current. brand new from the white house, may come and go from the podium. a statement from mr. mulvaney again, for your reaction i want walking this back. to play that key exchange about he says, quote, there was no the money. take a look. quid pro quo between the military aid and any >> what you just described is a investigation. quid pro quo. and so we just got this, which it is funding will not flow is striking. you know, these are these kind unless the investigation into of breaking news nights. the democratic server happened i don't know that he's being clever if he has to rush out as well. >> we do -- we do that all the this statement. it appears to some degree he time with foreign policy. goes in there and says we did a >> glenn? >> yeah, they do it all the quid pro quo and now he has to claim the opposite. time. and here's the thing. >> well, it's smart -- there was he thought he was maybe being a a method to his madness but it little cute by saying, okay, wasn't a very good method. maybe there was a quid pro quo, where i was going with this, i but it was really only with think he initially thought if he only said the quid pro quo was respect to past election interference. but, ari, that ignores page four related to something that happened in 2016 and it was of the call summary between investigating whether ukrainians trump and president zelensky had meddled with the election where trump moves on to really
that he could get away with it. he was trying to make us forget what's most important to him and or distance himself from the other part of the quid pro quo says, oh, the other thing i want which was investigating his is this biden son thing. political rival in the upcoming election. >> i'm not sure it's that and biden is bragging about complicated. let me play a little more of mr. getting the prosecutor fired. mulvaney. i'm not sure what we're watching look into that. >> right, go after my opponents is someone playing and go after the dnc. three-dimensional chess, just someone who went out and said i think we played one of the there was a quid pro quo bribe reporters in the room, you know, could be up for your job in that which in this context looks there was very specific impeachable and is now walking questioning of a suspect in it back. take a listen to him talking saying, hold on, even if you're about political influence and foreign policy and what people right. you may not be, but even if should think about that. you're right, asking a foreign >> kenny said yesterday that he government to go after the was really upset with the democratic party is itself both political influence in foreign forward and backward looking and there's more. policy. and then we have the new denial, that was one of the reasons he was so upset about this. which again we're not giving too i have news for everybody. get over it. much courage to that because >> francesca, what did you think what i think is big here is not the damage control. of that, and what was it like in but we have a little bit of a that room? >> so i was just reading this comparison. let me play that for your analysis. new statement from the white house that they rushed to us right before they knew that we'd >> there was no quid pro quo. all be going on television for there was nothing. primetime to try and clean up >> did he also mention to me in his remarks. he goes on to say that there was the past the corruption related
never any condition on the flow to the dnc server? of aid related to the matter of absolutely. no question about that. >> there was no quid pro quo. the dnc server. as we heard, you played those at all. >> to be clear what you just described was a quid pro quo. clips, that is not what he said when we were sitting in the room >> we do that all the time with foreign policy. today. >> you're building such an >> there was no quid pro quo, important point, i just wanting you to slow down on it. unlike biden. >> that's it. that's why we held up the money. you're saying that part of what he is saying now is a lie. >> and then, glenn, you have the statement that i mentioned. i'm not asking you to use that let me be clear, there was no term but i'm going to use that term because i've got the statement. quid pro quo between ukrainian he went out, we just played it, military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election. and admitted to a funding quid >> mulvaney just made himself a pro quo bribe for the investigation of this dnc stuff really damning witness against and now we have a new statement where he's telling everyone that didn't happen? the president, because he wasn't >> well, the white house says its reporters who are just asserting that these things happened or didn't happen. misconstruing his words, which is why i go back to those clips you hear what he said in that that you played where you heard clip. well, the president mentioned to me in passing. the question and you heard the what does that do? direct answer to those that makes him an inconsistent questions. and i was also going to add that statement witness against the president. that was the first briefing that so mulvaney will be getting his we've had, of course secretary subpoena. now, we'll see how he deals with mnuchin has briefed a couple of it. we'll probably get absolute times, but we haven't seen the immunity and executive privilege white house press secretary. and who knows, maybe
this was the first time in a doctor/patient privilege when very long time we've seen it's all said and done. someone brief from that podium. he will do everything he can to so they were clearly trying to avoid testifying, i predict, because he just said publicly answer the questions surrounding his involvement in what is a something that is very damning billowing scandal for the of the president. >> well, i don't know about president of the united states and then had to even go back to doctor/patient, but he might that and play cleanup with the need a doctor after punching statement we just got. >> it's striking and they're himself in the face in that hearing -- i mean in that press clearly back on their heels. conference. >> some real harm he did i have a lot of breaking news, himself. >> i've never seen anything like including some special guests so i'm bringing in more experts. it. i should mention, jay sekulow i want to thank jennifer very had to publicly disagree with much. this before the mulvaney other panelists will rejoin me. statement came out. let me bring you up to speed that may sound like an arcane because we have more reporting as we were just coming on the air and we've got reaction detail, but we both know if the pouring in to this unfolding lawyer cannot move the client in crisis. before we bring in the next private and thinks they have to, experts, take a look at how sometimes they speak publicly. trump's lawyers right now are first we heard from the lawyer handling this. saying nope and then we get the a source telling cnn they're backtracking. basically stunned at mulvaney but the video, the tapes, the tapes exist. admitting this bribery plot. glenn, you are a careful and cautious and thoughtful expert. here's what's key. donald trump has been i appreciate you being on the show tonight. >> thank you, ari. improvising this impeachment >> yes, sir. defense. he talks, mulvaney talks, coming up, we turn to something very different and it is an exclusive. i have a very well sourced trump trump's lawyers talk. but the lawyers cannot properly insider that will get into problems that he says are really
defend the suspects in this plot hurting the president from the from giuliani pushing a quid pro man on your screen, rudy giuliani, and warning mole legal quo to mulvaney admitting and perils ahead that could hit executing it if the suspects go donald trump. rump saturdays happen. rogue and admit to the plot in public. to put it simply tonight, the lawyers are trying to defend. admitting is the opposite of defending. and so trump lawyer jay sekulow, who we have interviewed right here on this show. he's got a new statement out that offers a legal drop kick to everything that mulvaney just admitted and that makes clear what we heard, what you just saw from mulvaney, that's not the president's counsel's view, that's not his strategy. sekulow saying the president's pain happens. legal counsel was not involved aleve it. in acting chief of staff's press aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol. briefing. now, mulvaney is a top aide to donald trump. so a lawyer for trump doesn't when pain happens, aleve it. want to rush into antagonizing all day strong. him or risk their access, but it's clearly an admission this damage had to be addressed immediately. it's not just mulvaney. the ukraine plot was further corroborated today in congress.
ambassador sondland confirming that donald trump was backing the ukraine policy that giuliani was driving. another impeachment witness suggesting giuliani was aiming to be something of a mastermind of ukraine policy and donald trump's politics. and then mulvaney today, you've got to see this, doubled down on giuliani in that disastrous appearance. >> do you believe that rudy was in an accident. giuliani's role as an outside when i called usaa, it was that voice asking me, advisor to the president is problematic? "is your daughter ok?" >> that's the president's call. that's where i felt relief. the president gets to set foreign policy and he gets to we're the rivera family and we plan to be with usaa for life. choose who to do so. >> did the president direct you see how much you can save or anyone else to work with rudy with usaa insurance. giuliani on ukraine? >> the president asked rick perry to work with mr. giuliani. see how much you can save here's the thing about managing for your business.s >> is it appropriate for a when you've got public clouds, personal attorney to be working in ukraine on issues that are and private clouds, and hybrid clouds- supposed to be national issues? >> i don't know if anything things can get a bit cloudy for you. inappropriate about that. >> as promised, i'm adding to our lineup, former federal but now, there's the dell technologies cloud, prosecutor glen kirschner, francesca chambers is still with us. powered by vmware. glenn, your reaction to the significance of these a single hub for a consistent operating experience
admissions? >> you know, ari, when mulvaney across all your clouds. started to talk and started to that should clear things up. confess that there was a quid pro quo, i wasn't that shocked because to me it looks like one of our sort of tested, tried and true trial tactics. we call it drawing the sting. what you do is -- and he's talking to the american people because at least as long as bill barr is attorney general, ain't nobody getting charged with a crime who is a crony of the president, right? >> do you think it adds to the impeachment evidence against donald trump to have the guy in charge of the budget say that they withheld funding from ukraine to get a political investigation? >> it adds to the impeachment evidence. i'm not so sure it adds to the removal evidence. and here's why. once we go from impeachment in the house to a removal trial in the senate, he's actually blunting the force of what the american people are going to hear in that senate trial. >> you think he's trying to get
something negative out? >> he is trying to draw the sting from that information. >> if that's right, why is he backing off it? >> well, that's what i don't understand because once he has drawn the sting, it's taking the what does it mean when your stinger and reinserting it in lawyer needs a lawyer? his own arm. it's usually a bad sign. none of this makes any sense to me now. that was true for michael cohen >> i've got lawyers thinking whose legal work for president three moves ahead. trump was interrupted by his own it looks like mick mulvaney is indictment. he's now serving time on a range about two moves behind. of offenses including payments >> these are keystone crooks at he says he arranged for his this point. >> i want to bring in client, donald trump. cohen vacating his work as a congressman swalwell. what do you think we saw today? personal lawyer and self-declared fixer left a hole >> good evening, ari. first, i would be remiss if i filled by several lawyers and didn't quickly pay tribute to my filled most loudly by rudy giuliani, who is under criminal colleague, elijah cummings, who investigation by the same office was a thunderous presence for that, one, indicted cohen, and, two, was once run by rudy accountability and moral giuliani. so we've got people here who are clarity. >> we're hitting that a little later in the show but let's in the thick of it. begin with that because you when cohen was under pressure, raise such an important moment the lawyer who preceded him as for obviously you, your trump's lawyer, jay goldberg, colleagues. so we'll get to it later but correctly predicted that cohen
let's get to it now as well if you want to tell us a moment or would flip on trump. two of your reflection on it. saying he warned president trump >> sure. i'll just say there was -- he's michael will never stand up for you. been a part of this goldberg represented trump for investigation and there was some 15 years, a former prosecutor thought as to whether we should delay today's hearing, but all himself. he knew the system and cohen. of us know that he has been such and right here on "the beat" he a force for protecting our explained his view of that lawyer. democracy that he would hate if we delayed just one day of >> if you spend five minutes getting to the truth. so we are marching on, you know, with michael cohen, you know that he's not strong, he's weak. doing what he would want us to that he would cave in with do. so yes, today on a break from respect to any wrongdoing. hearing from ambassador >> cave in. well, cohen did cooperate with sondland, i'm standing right the feds. outside the skiff, the secure tonight guiliani has been room, and on the big screen you insisting he hasn't heard from see mick mulvaney holding this prosecutors and this week he's been defying a subpoena from press conference and there was congress. just jaws on the floor, several trump lawyers find themselves not only defending including my republican colleagues, as mick mulvaney their client but sometimes defending themselves. said that. >> so you saw republicans in will guiliani follow the cohen realtime -- >> yes. path or will he ultimately beat >> it's not like they had extra time to frame it. any potential case and emerge you're saying their first reaction was what? triumphant? joining me now is former federal >> they're shaking their heads prosecutor and attorney for and like did he just say that? trump for over a decade, jay i patted one of them on the goldberg. he's the author of "the
shoulder and said have fun courtroom is my theater" and he cleaning that one up. but ari, the way i see it, mick knows these issues well. i'm also joined by msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. mulvaney today co-signed on donald trump's confession to thanks to both of you for being extortion. >> you view it as a type of here. confession? >> thanks for having us. >> yes. >> jay, you've worked for we've always -- donald trump said it was a quid pro quo president trump in private practice. you know cohen, you know essentially and then they tried to back off once they recognized guiliani. when you see rudy giuliani here what thatment for impeachment today, what do you think of the job he's doing? removal and potential criminal >> well, i think he's gone off liability. going back to glenn kirschner's the rails. point, oftentimes it's said in john bolton today said that court how could the defendant be guiliani is like a hand grenade. so stupid? as my brothers who are police officers tell me, we don't catch the smart ones. and it's a shame because his so i don't think that there's background is extraordinary. any brilliant legalese going on but somehow he got seduced into here or jedi tricks. sometimes they just say the quiet parts out loud. the likelihood of high publicity >> yeah. wow. you put it very starkly and i think the evidence of that, and and he lost his sense of we were sort of having that balance. >> based on what is publicly debate out here on the show because we have people with known, do you think guiliani has different ideas and talk it out. legal liability? >> i think he will have legal when you look at how quickly they're back tracking, the liability. let me say this to you. lawyers say this wasn't our it was in march when trump
advice and mulvaney saying called me and asked me whether multiple times during this briefing, i took 25 questions. it was good for him to hire and i referred to trump's interest in rooting out corruption and retain guiliani as his lawyer. i said despite his background, there was absolutely no quid pro which was extraordinarily good, quo. now we have mulvaney admitting quid pro quo. then later claiming he didn't. guiliani would not make a good and that's a lie. defense type lawyer. and then the question becomes >> while donald trump was president, you told him not to what do your committees do about hire guiliani for this role? >> not to hire guiliani. this? >> and what was your reason? do you feel any need to hear from mulvaney under oath before >> he had spent too much time as you move to votes and what happens if he doesn't show a prosecutor. because the stonewall strategy prosecutors can generally go we've seen cracking a little outside the line and there's bit? >> well, suches wspects who cono nobody to correct them. he wouldn't be careful a crime are still entitled to a defensively to see that donald fair hearing. you can move a lot faster when was protected. >> do you think because some you have confessions from the prosecutors are so used to being suspects and other witnesses around it. but yes, we'll bring in the in charge they lose the skills relevant witnesses and conduct that you need to have when you're not in charge? this fairly but expeditiously. >> absolutely. i also just want to say this, you need the skills that the man ari, about what we heard from to my left, danny, has as a mick mulvaney, which is of defense lawyer. and a defense lawyer plays
course this is they were doing. things with the possibility that it might come out later on. and the process attacks that i hear from republicans reflect >> now, i want to be clear about that they don't want to defend your expertise, jay, both as a what was actually going on, the federal prosecutor and someone extortion scheme with our who worked for donald trump. you know michael cohen. taxpayer dollars. as you know as a lawyer, law >> that's very interesting. professor tell you when the in the 15 years that i worked facts are against you, argue the law. when the law is against you, for trump from my own office, i argue the facts. when both are against you, pound your fists on the table and never met michael cohen. shout really loud and that's whatever dealings he had with what we're seeing right now. michael cohen would be when he >> you're involved in this, you're an investigator and sank into the well of the desk around all these individuals. we were watching this in the newsroom today and we were just and had conversations with people or a person that i didn't astounded. i mean i could not understand know. but he insulated me apparently how the president's top aide, from any exposure because he who's been listening to donald trump run around saying no quid knew that i wouldn't do anything pro quo, no quid pro quo could come out and admit it and we inappropriate. >> and what about that just played that sounding. arrangement regarding guiliani? when pressed by the reporters, have you stayed away from what wait, he said he did. he's doing? does it matter to your investigation to have a theory of why this was happening? >> no. i think guiliani has been is there a bubble? is there a lack of regular press seduced by mar-a-lago, the briefings made a lot of people lifestyle. soft? is there really a lack of it's very heady to be on the
experience at this point with mr. mulvaney at this point plane, gold-plated. taking straightforward inquisitive questions and thus fumbling them? because it seems in a very it's once in a lifetime to appreciable way, some of the somebody who's dealt in the best public evidence that there was a bribery plot with ukraine trenches. just burst out today and it came rooting out the mob. >> and you know more about this from the president's top aide. >> that's a great question. than most people. i think you can sum it up with does rudy giuliani have any the fact that this july 25 evidence or records that could shakedown call was made the day resolve what he was doing with after bob mueller testified to ukraine? >> yes. congress. they think they can get away there's a book that he kept of with it. that's really what's at stake all the contacts that he made here. there's not really a dispute about what happened. and so what i submit to my while in the ukraine. republican colleagues is our children are watching what we do it hasn't been subpoenaed thus far. next with our democracy. it hasn't come to light. donald trump said he could shoot and i tell you that if the someone on fifth avenue and get away with it. we as americans have to answer subpoena is issued for that book whether he is right about who we are. i am betting that he's really, really wrong. >> you lay out the stakes. that he prepared, it will be to it's really striking and it was the detriment of donald under an interesting also what you're saying you saw from your agency kind of concept that colleagues and i also appreciate donald will be responsible for you speaking about a colleague all the things that he did and that you lost. really appreciate your time
guiliani did a lot of the things today, congressman swalwell. >> my pleasure. >> i'm going to fit in a quick that he's used to doing while he break. was a prosecutor. we have a lot on the show. he was a very hard-driving directly ahead we break down the prosecutor. >> rudy giuliani prepared this repp book you say? >> yes. >> have you seen it? >> i've seen the book. repercussions of this bombshell >> if you say there's this book that came inside the white house and you've seen it and now pressroom contradicting donald trump on the core impeachment you're mentioning it on air -- issue by admitting a quid pro >> yes. >> the logical result is that it quo. later in the show speaker may be subpoenaed. pelosi revealing new details about what she saw and what she >> they may. calls the president's quote, i don't think there's enough to meltdown. and tonight a "beat" impeach trump and certainly not exclusive. a well-placed trump insider who to convict him. >> but you do think there are has a serious warning about rudy things here that might make it giuliani. i'm ari melber and you're look like rudy giuliani broke watching "the beat" on msnbc. the law? proof of less joint pain >> well, rudy giuliani likes to keep a log of the things that and clearer skin. he's doing because he wants to man 2 vo: proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... show it to the client. woman 2 vo: ...with humira. >> let me bring danny -- woman 3 vo: humira targets and blocks >> one last thing. >> let me bring danny and then a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint i'll come back to you. danny, this long-time lawyer for and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, donald trump is talking about another lawyer for donald trump stop further irreversible joint damage, who's under investigation and fighting congressional and clear skin in many adults. subpoenas.
your reaction to what mr. humira is the number one goldberg is saying that there is prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. this record book, that it avo: humira can lower your ability to fight infections. exists, that he's seen it and serious and sometimes fatal infections, that it might have more including tuberculosis, and cancers, evidence. >> it would be very difficult to including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, keep this book from disclosure pursuant to subpoena, because serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. the first question is what is the purpose of this book. tell your doctor if you've been to areas if it's not for the purpose of where certain fungal infections are common providing legal advice and and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, services and if it's not are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. attorney work product, then privilege is largely dissipated. don't start humira if you have an infection. man 3 vo: ask your rheumatologist about humira. what exactly is rudy giuliani's status? who's he working on behalf of? woman 4 vo: go to humira.com to see proof in action. is he a lawyer? >> is he a lawyer or is he an agent? he might be a consultant, a contractor apparently pro bono. for both of you, donald trump has talked a lot about the idea that if someone else does something for him, he's not responsible. and if they give him a view, right or wrong, he relies on it. there is a concept called reliance, although it has a breaking point. here's the president making that argument. >> remember this, he's an attorney. whatever decision he makes,
you're supposed to rely on an attorney to make a decision. when you have an attorney, you're supposed to be able to rely on your attorney. woman 1: i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. man 1: mine... man 1: ...caused liver damage. >> attorney/client privilege? vo: epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. >> but it's also called reliance. >> jay, is there a reliance vo: whatever your type, ask your doctor if epclusa is your kind of cure. woman 2: i had the common type. defense? can donald trump insulate man 2: mine was rare. himself? vo: epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. or do you think guiliani has acted in a way that can put too much on trump? man 3: i just found out about my hepatitis c. >> i don't think donald would woman 3: i knew for years. suffer any adverse consequence vo: epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with at this time. or without food for 12 weeks. he could be named as an unindicted co-conspirator in any vo: before starting epclusa, your doctor will test if you have had hepatitis b, which may flare up, criminal activity of guiliani. but keep in mind that when you and could cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. vo: tell your doctor if you have had hepatitis b, deal with attorney/client other liver or kidney problems, privilege, it's donald's privilege. >> sure. hiv, or other medical conditions... >> it's not rudy's privilege. >> and we're short on time with vo: ...and all medicines you take, all the news. the last question for you, jay, including herbal supplements. vo: taking amiodarone with epclusa given your interest, do you may cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. think that donald trump should end this work relationship with vo: common side effects include headache and tiredness. guiliani? >> i do think so. i think it's time.
vo: ask your doctor today, if epclusa is your kind of cure. i said that in march of 2018. >> and you think that even more so today? here, hello! starts with -hi!mple... >> yes. how can i help? >> danny? >> it seems like guiliani is a data plan for everyone. everyone? everyone. becoming a liability for donald let's send to everyone! [ camera clicking ] trump so it may be time to ending the attorney/client wifi up there? -ahhh. relationship and seek assistance elsewhere. >> very interesting and i think sure, why not? you made some news here tonight, jay, and you're close to a lot how'd he get out?! of the players so it's very a camera might figure it out. interesting. jay goldberg, danny cevallos, that was easy! glad i could help. at xfinity, we're here to make life simple. easy. awesome. thank you. >> good to see you. up ahead we have a special look at the history and what it so come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. says. also tonight i have a special announcement about gun safety and michael moore. i'm going to bring that to you aaddiction. how juuline hooked kids and ignited an on "the beat" tonight. at" tonig. public health crisis." other news outlets report- at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan juul took $12.8 billion from big tobacco. markets to cover the essentials in retirement, e-cigarettes with kid friendly flavors and uses as well as all the things you want to do. nicotine to addict them. 5 million kids use and on the way, you'll get timely investment help e-cigarettes. juul is "following big tobacco's to keep you on the right track, without the unnecessary fees you might expect playbook." and now, juul is pushing prop c to from so many financial firms. overturn e-cigarette protections. vote no on juul. because when you have a partner
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today's admission of a bribery plot by donald trump's chief of staff is not the only impeachment development tonight. congress also heard first person accounts from this diplomat you see there about the same plot. meanwhile those two indicted giuliani associates they were back in court today. does it ever seem like there's more news around and more developments than there are days in the week to cover all of it? we think so which is why we've been gathering experts for these extra original installments of our sunday night specials on the impeachment probe. and we use the time to hear for some guests we don't always have the time to hear from amidst breaking stories. we had a person who actually cast a vote on that very rare
thing in america, the senate trial of a sitting president. i want to share with you the best highlights. >> we are in a sea of craziness and it's all bad. >> the whole country is watching. >> if one brave person will speak the truth it will emboden others. >> a president is asking a foreign government to intervene and interfere in an election in this country. that alone is criminal. >> that argument does not work. no. >> it's a political process by nature. >> you want to start with anonymity? >> start with anonymity, no. >> that is the president, the vice president, the secretary of state, the attorney general because all were involved. >> politics be damned. >> politics be damned. if the constitution is about anything it is about something bigger than politics. these aren't normal times. we certainly need time and
experts to try to make sense of them. and that's why tonight if you're watching "the beat" i'll be the one to tell you we're announcing another installment. this will be a brand new special on the imetch peachment crisis. you can also send us your ideas and questions at "the beat" with ari on facebook and twitter and i hope you join us this sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. and congressman elijah cummings he rose all the way to run the powerful oversight committee of the house. it was from that perch he gave this recent and memorable appeal. this was at the hearing with donald trump's former lawyer, michael cohen. >> we're dancing with the angels the question will be asked in
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and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. humira is the number one prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. avo: humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. man 3 vo: ask your rheumatologist about humira. woman 4 vo: go to humira.com to see proof in action.
what a news day. thanks for staying with us the whole time. i want to tell you one more thing. michael moore back on "the beat" tomorrow. we're going to tackle something he's doing specifically with nbc on gone safety policy. that's one we're going to get to tomorrow. thanks for watching as always. "hardball" is up next. quid pro uh-oh. let's play hardball. good evening. i'm steve kornacki in for chris
matthews. a stunning admission from the president's acting chief of staff today bolsters the accusation the president leveraged a u.s. ally for political purposes. it was in a press briefing today mick mulvaney said trump froze military aid because he wanted an investigation involving a dnc server in the