tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC February 22, 2016 6:00pm-7:01pm PST
it's very weird. it's very real at the same time. thank you very much. thanks to you at home for joining us in nevada where heads have started finally roll in vast republican race. today in durango hills, hundreds of people, something like 700, 800 people were gathered at a ymca for a midday campaign rally for ted cruz. we're getting down to the wire in nevada. the caucuses are tomorrow. these are the last things the candidates are going to do. these are the last day events. this is really important in terms of trying to win nevada. this is closing argument time for the various campaigns who can get their candidate here in person and on the ground. this ted cruz event today was supposed to start at noon local time. there was supposed to be a candidate press conference ahead of time. even with the incredibly tight schedules that the campaigns and
candidates have to run, the cruz campaign had to blow up its schedule and keep all thoeds peop -- those people waiting. all the people are waiting. all the reporters are waiting for the press conference. everything got pushed. everything got left waiting because the candidate and a bunch of his top staffers were holed up in the parking lot of the ymca dealing with a crisis or causing a crisis. that was going on at the ymca 15 miles away. a control room in mid town manhattan was dialed in for ted cruz campaign manager. he's a nice guy. he's the only person that would
give us the time of day. he wouldn't always give us a comment, but he was always nice about it. while this ymca parking lot huddle was under way this las vegas, national campaign spokesman nick tyler was dialed in to do a live interview with kate snow. minutes before the interview was due to go live, rick tyler, the national spokesman for the ted cruz campaign, he got up and walked out. no explanation. no notice, just left. gone. poof, as it were. turns out the reason he had to get up and walk away with no explanation and no warning is because the ted cruz campaign had just fired him while he was waiting to do that live interview. you don't have to feel too bad for nice old rick tyler. i'm sure he will land on his feet. a little perspective, you might
remember him back in 2012, newt gingrich in 2012 had a billionaire keeping him in the presidential race long after his natural political shelf life expi expired. the super pac through which sheldon adeleson was run by rick tyler. he's a nice guy. he has a lot of very rich friends. he's well respected. him getting axed today. the top spokesman getting fired today with no notice. that tells you very little about rick tyler. what it tells you is what time it is in the republican race. this is the time in the republican race when things are starting to go pear shaped for a lot of campaigns. this is the time when some
losing candidates will start to quit the race. this is the time when some losing candidates who have money will not necessarily quit the race but start to fire their staff. firing your staff has a lot of different expexplications. kr you can fire them because you want to look like you're changing. you can fire them because you want to look thrifty or you want to look tough. this is the part of the race where people start to get fired. at this point in the republican race, everybody who is running for president who is a republican not named donald trump is losing. overall, it's not that surprising that the losing campaigns that still survive are starting to crack up a little bit. what is strange today about ted cruz firing his national campaign spokesman is that nobody really expected that this
was the way the ted cruz campaign would start to crack. that's because of the very specific character of the ted cruz campaign. the ted cruz campaign has been comfortable being ruthless. we saw it most starkly in iowa. night of the iowa caucus, the ted cruz campaign tried to win the iowa caucuses by tricking ben carson supporters into believing that ben carson had quit the race. first we knew about it it was a couple of tweets that surfaced from a ted cruz endorser and some reports that ted cruz surrogates were basactively spreading this rumor. there did surface a ted cruz logo e-mail. is anybody going to be held
accountable for whispers and rumors. the ted cruz campaign had operationalized this dirty trick. they were doing phone banking on it. >> from ted cruz campaign calling to get to a precinct cap pain and it has been announced that ben carson is taking a leave of absence from the campaign trail. it's important that you tell any ben carson voters that they for tonight not vote for ben carson and vote for ted cruz. he is taking a leave. thank you. >> hello, this cruz campaign with breaking news, dr. ben carson will be planning to suspend his campaign. thank you and good night. that was the ted cruz campaign in iowa the night of the iowa caucuses where they won the iowa
caucus. we now know that part of the way they tried to win was by tricking ben carson supporters into thinking their candidate had quit so they could stay home or the they still wanted to come out, they could flip to ted cruz instead. that was just brutal. they tried to down play it. it was a big time dirty trick. on friday before the south carolina primary, south carolina senator lindsey graham was campaigning with jeb bush. he was asked his opinion of ben carson. he said ben carson is the world's nicest man and if ted cruz made ben carson mad, you ought to think long and hard about ted cruz. that's the reputation he earned and he kept running the same way once he moved onto south carolina. very few things had fingerprints
leading back to the ted cruz campaign but they pointed back to his direction. congressman trey gowdy endorsed marco rubio. a fake facebook page showed he switched his endorsement from marco rubio to ted cruz. that was fake but that's south carolina. there was this gem put together by the ted cruz campaign ahead of the south carolina primary. it proports to show the real marco rubio. it's fake marco rubio photo shopped making it look like he was grinning like a goon and shaking hands with president obama when he was not. after south carolina, there was this video. it was not created by the ted cruz campaign. it was created and up loaded by the student newspaper at the university of pennsylvania. the tape shows marco rubio having a chance encounter with
ted cruz folks, including ted cruz dad. the paper indicated that when marco rubio saw this young man reading a bible, he pointed at the bible and said there are not many answers in it. now, that subtitling is not only weird but it was wrong. senator rubio said the opposite. apparently what he said is he complimented the young man on the fact he was reading the bible and told him that all the answers are there mining all the answers are in the bible or in the gospels. this weird, almost nonsensical, unprompted ridicule of the bible and one of the people who tweeted the leak was the ted cruz national spokesman, rick tyler. once it became clear that the subtitling was wrong and the whole implication of the video
was misstated, cruz campaign spokesman deleted the tweet and apologized for tweeted it in a written statement on facebook. he went on the fox news channel to apologize for it again. then something cracked. by this afternoon, everybody had to wait a little while longer at the ymca while ted cruz made a big show out of firing rick tyler. >> yesterday a staffer from our campaign sent out a tweet that tweeted a news story that purported to indicate marco saying something negative about the bible. the report was false. the staffer deleted tweet and pulled it down. i spent this morning investigating what happened. this morning, i asked for rick tyler's resignation. >> presidential candidate ted cruz firing his national campaign spokesman today.
it is substantively, a little strange. like when you understand the trajectory of the campaign, it's strange. this was not some nefarious lie about marco rubio and the bible that the cruz campaign created out of thin air like, for example, the marco rubio photoshop of him shaking hands. they didn't make this video. they didn't invent the fake subtitling for it. somebody else did that. the cruz spokesman did tweet a link. he deleted it and apologized in writing and this person and he still had to be fired? nobody got fired for what happened in iowa. in iowa the whole cruz campaign was organized to trick carson supporters to thinking he was no longer in the race. nobody got fired for that. nobody got fired for the fake photo shop thing and nobody got fired for the trey gowdy
facebook thing. what's happening here is not that somebody in the ted cruz campaign finally did something so low down dirty dog that the campaign could no longer live with it. they couldn't defend their terrible dirty tricks any longer. something had to break. that's not what happened here. what appears to have happened is it was time for shake up at the ted cruz campaign. so, the national spokesman is out for something that seems a lot smaller than other things that have happened. honestly, the ted cruz campaign is do for a shake up. they were expected to come in second in south carolina or even win. in the end they came in third in south carolina. amazingly ted cruz did not win the evangelical vote in south carolina. donald trump beat ted cruz with evangelical voters in south carolina. that's ted cruz theory of the race for how he can compete and win this the republican primary.
the ted cruz theory is he can lock up the evangelical vote and the other candidates can split the rest of the electorate. he can win certainly every southern remare and a lot of premares outside as well. tur turns out ted cruz is right. his theory of the case is right. he has no appeal other than to evangelical voters. the problem is that among evangelical voters, he can't lock them up. donald trump got more evangelical voters. it's one thing to lose to somebody like ben carson. it's another thing to lose them to donald trump. for ted cruz the basic theory of the case is lost and is losing. if he couldn't pull off a win and couldn't pull off a second place finish in south carolina,
where three quarters of the people who turned out to vote were evangelical voters, it's likely to see any other place where he's likely to win. maybe he will pull off a miracle here. if you can't count on something like that, the next best thing is to fire your spokesman. fire somebody on your campaign who they might have heard of and might recognize from tv. we'll see what happens. i don't think anybody is expecting a change this tone or tactics. i don't think if you wanted a clean break the guy you fire would be a rick tyler. it's yet to be seen whether the campaign shake up and the high profile firing makes people give the cruz campaign a second look. the other thing that remains to be seen is whether or not ted cruz has a bad enough rep tutatn that it might start bothering voters as much as it bothers his fellow candidates. here in nevada today at a marco
rubio rally, gabe found a few rubio curious republicans. they said yes, the character starting to bug them. >> why not ted cruz? >> i don't like dirty politics. the low blows. it's not okay, in my opinion. if you're going to fight, then fight fair. you win, lose or draw. you come away a better person out of it. >> the rubio campaign is trying really hard to paint ted cruz as something that's dis honest. do you think that's working? >> it feels that way. it works for me. >> who are you supporting? >> i was supporting ted cruz since the very beginning. yesterday, really changed my mind totally competely when he attacked the bible incident. she told me earlier last week she was for rubio. i started looking at rubio more. she invited me to this rally today. here we are.
ted cruz, his campaign, he's too dirty. it totally turned me off yesterday. i aheheard other things and was believing it. you put a lie out there and let it sit out there. it doesn't float with me. >> that was from a marco rubio rally today in reno, nevada. we're in las vegas tonight. we're here in advance of tomorrow night's caucuses. the latest poll shows that donald trump is due to win by anywhere of 16 to 26 points. that said, that means nothing. nobody believes the polls for the nevada caucuses on either side. grain of salt on that. watch out for imploding campaigns. this is the time when things start to get messy. joining us now is haley jackson. it's great to see you. >> thank you. >> what happened with this rick
tyler thing? >> couple of things. i think ted cruz wanted to do the right thing. he talked about wanting to run campaign with integrity. this has been weeks that he's been attacked for dirty tricks and having a campaign of dishonesty. it's not the one incident, it's not the second incident. it's all of these things. making rick tyler the sacarificial lamb, they can move on. >> ted cruz walks into the bar and they stiffen up and look down at their drinks. they don't seem the like him. >> look at the response from rubio's campaign to the news tyler was dismissed. it was harsh. >> what did they say? >> it was harsh. this shows lies from top to bottom within the campaign. it was taking the knife.
>> is that personal antipathy or is the ted cruz campaign different than the other campaig campaigns? >> it's politics. i think ted cruz has gotten more coverage but to play devil's advocate, this isn't all coming from the cruz campaigns. it's super pacs. it's something they can't necessarily control. they are making the argument that some of the stuff is coming from other campaigns. >> trying to make cruz look bad. trying to make it look like issues from the cruz campaign. >> reverse psychology. >> the idea you would put out a hit on yourself. that would make ted cruz look worse than you. i realize we're playing chess and they are playing checkers. >> you got to wonder what's it going to do with voters. you look at his favorability rating, they were sinking before this stuff started happening.
you have to wonder when ted cruz has the perception he's unlikable when you have this line of attack that is how he's going after cruz. before he saw different things. with bush it was low energy. with ted cruz he's a liar and he's using that word repeatedly. >> in terms of the theory of the case with ted cruz, when i looked at the exit poll numbers, i thought this was a big problem. this isn't just come ing in a close third. this is place where he should have done. this is like a test case built for him. did they underperform in terms of their overall strategy? >> i think it was disappointing that it was a third place finish. i would point out a couple of things. as the top strategist sent out a
memo, they did perform well with the conservative block. >> they only won by six points. >> exactly. >> it's not like it was a blow out. >> they would argue they are trying to bring together the tea partiers. a lot of question marks not for tomorrow night here in nevada at the caucuses but tuesday, march 1st. it's hard to overstate how crucial those will be for ted cruz campaign. he's really got to win texas at this point. if donald trump beats him, rick tyler has talked about the 27,000 volunteers they have in it can, it's going to be a tough day. >> it's hard to see him surviving losing in place like alabama. we'll see. well done. thank you. we have more ahead from las vegas, nevada, including a key
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what he wants to grow. >> cruz, i don't know what he wants to grow. i don't even know what that means but it sounds so dirty when bob doyle puts it that way. senator bob doyle was the republican party's nominee in 1996 against bill clinton. he had previously supported jeb bush for president this time around, but now that jeb bush has quit the race, more on that later, he's throwing his lot in with senator marco rubio. one former republican nominee who has not endorsed yet, who hasn't endorsed anyone this year is mitt romney. there was some reporting he was able to endorse senator rubio as well, but it didn't happen. we don't know who mitt romney is going to endorse or when he's going to make the endorsement or how he's making his decision. if he does like marco rubio and if he wants marco to have chance at winning the nomination, this
might be an auspicious time to get off the pot. the first reason is he hasn't won anything yet. he hasn't come within ten points of winning anything. if he is going to start looking like a potential nominee, he's going to have to win somewhere. the rubio campaign is the biggest republican campaign on the ground in nevada. they are running harder than any of the other republican candidates including tons of money spent on tv ad time. if marco rubio can't win here, it's hard the see he could win anywhere. nevada is starting to look really important for mr. rubio's chances. that's one reason mr. romney might want to think about that endorsement coming now, if it's going to come. the other reason it would make a lot of sense for the romney endorsement to come now, no matter who he will endorse is because of the factor of religion. he's the first mormon nominated by any party as a candidate.
democrats were the first to put a catholic on the ticket and the first woman. the republicans were the first to choose a mormon, which is a big deal and it's a big deal in this state. specifically in this republican caucus tomorrow night because nevada had fairly large mormon population. roughly 4 or 5% of the state's population is mormon. the turn out for the caucus was 25% mormon. one in four caucus goers. the whole state is only 5 4 or mormon. maybe the huge mormon turn out numbers is because mitt romney was on the ballot in 2008 and 2012. he ran for president both of those years. he won the caucus both of those years. he won't be on the ballot this time around. his endorsement could be huge here. could be a game changer for one lucky republican candidate.
if mr. romney wanted to do that, he has the power to shift the result in nevada tomorrow and to shift the whole republican contest. he could do it if he wants to or maybe he wants mr. trump to take it all the way to the convention so when the republican freak out truly starts about donald trump being the nominee, they panic and ask mitt romney to swoop in and save the day. maybe rescue fantasy. maybe that's why he's staying out of it? i don't know. this is the exact time, like literally, tonight, here. this is the time and place for mitt romney to exert maximum influence on who the republican party picks as its next republican nominee. for some reason he's choosing not to do it. watch this space. (neighbor) yeah, so we're just bringing your son home. he really loves our wireless directv receiver. (dad) he should know better. we're settlers. we settle for cable. but let us repay you for your troubles.
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endorsements of his colleagues from his own home state, but wait. with vermont's primary just eight days away, senator bernie sanders has his first endorsement from statewide elected official in his home state. pet peter welch has come out in support of senator sanders. for context, senator sanders has a huge lead in his home state. he has a 76-point lead in vermont. he's leading by 76 points. he's at 86 points. hillary clinton is at ten. that's nuts. that's not happened in nature. peter welch is the only congressman in the state of vermont. if you're going to get on board the bernie train, a 76-point lead for him among your own c constituents might be a good
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historically speaking, the least weird thing that could happen from here on out, would be for donald trump to win the republican presidential nomination. it would be bizarre if it didn't happen now. no candidate has won new hampshire and south carolina and not gone onto win the nomination. he's won both new hampshire and south carolina. he won them both by a lot. it would be weird, it would be unprecedented if he didn't go onto win the overall primary. conversely, the political press has decided that marco rubio is a sure bet at this point. the endorsements for senator rubio is flooding in. he's been all but coronated by the beltway press. he came in fifth in new hampshire. he came in third in iowa. historically speaking, nobody has won the republican
nomination without winning one of the first three states. marco rubio not only didn't win one of the first three, he didn't come close to winning in any of the first three states. if he's going to get the republican nomination, he's going to be a historical anomaly so glaring, you'll see the glow from space. this is the real doozy. this is 1928. in 1928, herbert hoover was the candidate. he beat al smith. that's the last time the republican party won a presidential election without either richard nixon or a member of the bush family on the ticket. 1928. these are all the presidential elections the republican party has won since 1928. every single one of them has had richard nixon or a member of the
bush family as president or vice presidential candidate. this time around nobody without nixon would come back but there was supposed to be another bush. jeb was supposed to be the shoo in. i looked at from the time governor bush got into the race, not only did jeb bush win in that poll, he had more support nationwide than any other republican candidate. look, even people who weren't supporting him then thought they could end up supporting him. 75% of republicans said at the time he got in the race that they could imagine themselves supporting jeb bush. 75%. then he started running and it all went to h-e-double hockey sticks in hand basket. they describe the 100 million or so dollars he blew as one of the least successful campaign spending binges in history.
and, so, remarkably, in the state where his dad and his brother both won republican primaries twice, jeb bush placed fourth and in single digits in south carolina. he got up before a tearful room and gave a classy, dignified quitting speech. now we must poof him. we started off this year with 22 possible republican presidential candidates. pretty quickly, five of those 22 took themselves out of contention. at the official starting line it was 17 candidates. 17 people actually running and from the initial 17, we first lost, rick perry, 100 days after he jumped in, he jumped out. ten days after that we lost scott walker. poof. then it was almost two months before we got to poof anybody else. the next one we got to poof was bobby jindal in november. in december we poofed lindsey graham and at christmastime we got to poof george pitaki.
everybody stuck it out until iowa. then new hampshire came along on february 10th and new hampshire poofed chris christie and carly fiorina and jim gilmore. now, i can't believe it's time to do this. i can't believe the republican will try to win a race without the benefit of richard nixon or a member of the bush family on the ticket. hasn't worked since 1928, you guys. they are doing it. here it comes. say it with me now. three, two, one, poof. poof, jeb bush. best of luck to you sir. it was a terrible campaign for jeb bush. now it's over. now who's going to make all the funny noises on the campaign trail? >> err.
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i think the lawyers have to determine it was a retweet. not so much with marco. i'm not that familiar with marco's circumstances. >> why retweet it? >> because i'm not sure. let me make their own determination. >> you're really not sure that marco rubio is eligible to run. >> i don't know. i've never looked at it. somebody said he's not and i retweeted it. >> donald trump telling abc that now he's not so sure about marco rub rubio's citizenship. first barack obama, then ted cruz and now marco rubio. what do these kids have this common? he said he's never looked at it.
no republican candidate in history has ever won the new hampshire primary and the south carolina primary and then not gone onto win the republican presidential nomination. donald trump just won both south carolina and new hampshire. he won it by being like that. does that mean that history doesn't apply here? joining us now is nbc news correspondent. thanks for being here. >> thanks. >> why open up the marco rubio isn't eligible line of attack? >> because he's up next. some of the people in his campaign says he will test a line and go on facebook and see how it plays in the commons. if it plays well then he will continue on. they don't have this internal polling that a lot of other candidates have. they're not putting out questions and finding out how the person is reading with a certain portion. >> he just looks at his twitter replies and facebook comments.
>> he looks at social media. >> is there any indication that he believes that marco rubio is not eligible to run for president? >> i think there was an interview where he said he had no question about whether or not he was eligible. if he isn't eligible then it brings donald trump into the range because his mother was born in scotland. i don't think it's a line of attack he believes in wholeheartedly. i think you'll see him hitting it harder. he's ignored marco entirely. we have heard him talk about how sweaty he is and what a baby he is and he was not strong in immigration. he hasn't talked about him much lately. what the campaign is doing is letting marco rubio and ted cruz battle it out. right now they are fighting with
each other. if he attacks marco that could help ted cruz. right now i think the rubio campaign is trying to lay low. >> the trump campaign is trying out what they might use against him by floating things in social media. >> marco rubio has not won a state yet. >> let me ask you about the way the race has changed as we have learned who can win and who can't. having rounded south carolina now it really, if you look at it historically is almost a certainty that mr. trump will win the nomination. have they absorbed any of that? have they started to think about themselves as the nominees? >> they might be acting like they are but donald trump said yesterday it's not a shoo in yet. i think they learned their lesson in iowa after talking about how he would win by great numbers when they didn't win.
they raelealized they opened themselves up to the attack line he's a loser. i said what do you think your chances of winning. they told me not that great at the time. i don't think they even thought they had much of chance. >> in a candid moment. >> in candid moment. exactly. this was way early on. this was in july. a conversation i had in july. the numbers were low. to see the campaign now with the likely -- it's likely they will win the nomination, they are feeling good. they are feeling like their candidate is a strong candidate. he's proven himself to be a strong candidate. he's been that way by defying all the rules and by being himself in way no other candidate has been in the history of american politics. >> it will be interesting to see if he becomes the defacto nominee. if the rest try to glom themselves onto that campaign to make him seem traditional.
>> how the rnc will deal with limb and what they will try. who his v.p. nomination or pick will be is interesting. i think there's a lot of really. but we'll see. >> how do you stop him who it's going to be? katie tur following the trump campaign. you have a fun job right now, i'm invees you of you today. >> it's interesting. much more to come. a lot of people are hoping the caucuses work better this time than they did last time or the time before which was such a disaster. it was actually laugh out loud funny. and than story is ahead, stay with us.
two things that are potentially going to be really big deals are about to happen in the news. the first is on the issue of flint. michigan governor rick snyder said after months of pressure, he's going to release thousands of pages of e-mails showing the involvement of his administration in the lead poisoning of the city of flint. he's been resisting calls to release the e-mails now for months. says he's now having state lawyers go through them to see if anything should be held back. the rest will be released, quote, relatively soon. so watch for that relatively soon. that's one. the other thing to watch for should be coming very, very soon. and that is the plan to close guantanamo. the pentagon's deadline for submitting its how to close guantanamo plan is tomorrow. i kind of assumed they were going to blow through that deadline since we haven't heard anything on the issue for a long time. the spokesman said today that the pentagon will meet that
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nevada. it was no real surprise. everybody expected that mitt romney was going to win nevada. he lived stoims in utah which is basically next door. presumably had a lock on the mormon vote. and so yeah, everybody knew mitt romney would beat john mccain in nevada. john mccain didn't even come in second in nevada. he came in third behind both mitt romney and ron paul. ron paul pulled in 14% of the vote and came in second. you know, that should have been kind of the end of that story, the first caucus. interesting, romney, ron paul, and mccain. that was only the beginning. because when you vote in the nevada republican caucus, they elect delegates to the state convention and it elects delegates to send to the national convention to select a presidential nominee. oh, democracy. and in 2008, when ron paul did not win on caucus day, his supporters decided that nevertheless, they would still out box the other campaign.
they would still get all of their delegates sent to the state convention. so it was nuts. a couple months after these caucuses, which technically mitt romney had won, when the noh republicans gathered at their state convention, the ron paul delegates mutiny basically they took over. it was complete chaos. and what they were threatening to do is send a slate of themselves as ron paul delegates to the national convention, even though mitt romney had caucuses. officials shut downtown whole convention. they held a private conference call later on that summer to pick their dell galts away from all the pesky ron paul people. eventually the national republican party decided the whole thing so was screwed up, they stepped in and appointed their own slate of nevada delegates for the national convention. ah, democracy. that was the first time the nevada republican party held a presidential nominating caucus. that's what happened. that was 2008. next anytime in 2012, it was
worse. in 2012, some total registered republican voters who turned out was roughly, 8%. not a big turnout. even with so few votes to count, it then took the nevada republican party two days to determine a winner, and then, and then, even then, ron paul supporters took over the state convention again. now, the state party has sort of learned from the disaster in 2008. they had a new rule in place that would require delegates to the national convention to vote for whoever had won on caucus day in 2012, that was mitt romney again, he won the caucus on caucus day. then at the national convention, forget that, the road nevada delegates went ahead and voted for ron paul anyway. screw your rule. oh, and in the meantime, ron paul supporters took over the republican party in clark county which is home to three quarters of nevada's population. they put up a billboard at one point praising ron paul, and
dissing the republican party's presidential standard bearer, mitt romney. nevada is nuts. nevada is nuts. and, nevada goes next. how are things go to go tomorrow? nobody has any idea. it's only the third time they've ever ian tried it and the first two times, disastrous. here's what we do know though. if nevada makes a hash of this thing again tomorrow, this may be the last time the state gets to hold an early caucus. the national review calls it a fore gone conclusion that national republicans will relieve nevada of its place as the fourth state on their calendar if there's not a miraculous turnout tomorrow and a really smooth vote. it's make or break time for nebraska. make or break. no pressure. you handle the pressure well. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again tomorrow. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> hey rachel, it's 7:00 p.m. in vegas, a