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"morning joe." thank you so much for being with us. it's "morning joe" but stick around. because coming up next, it's "the rundown." good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. closing arguments under way at this hour in the boston trial of accused bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. the jury could get the as early as this afternoon. this is just the beginning. if jurors find him guilty they've got to decide whether tsarnaev's punishment is life in prison or the death penalty. ron mott has been following the case. what's the preview of the arguments today? >> reporter: hey there, jose. expecting the prosecution to go about an hour once they get going today summarizing their case all the physical evidence presented over a month's worth of testimony showing dzhokhar tsarnaev on surveillance video putting a backpack pull of a
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pressure bomb that killed three people along the boston marathon finish line and, of course the physical evidence with respect to the m.i.t. police officer sean collier killed. off the text messages all of the e-mail searches interset searches. the government will summarize all that to suggest dzhokhar tsarnaev has become radicalized, try to minimize what the defense is going to say about tamerlan tsarnaev's influence on his brother and the government is going to essentially say to the jury you have to find him guilty because the evidence proves he is guilty. once the defense comes up they're be allotted an hour. see if they take that much time to present their side of the case. ecerebral essentially saying he is responsible for putting the bomb in place. trying to save his life coming in the next phase should, there about guilty charge in this case, jose. >> ron if there is a guilty charge then how is this next
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phase going to be different? >> reporter: well i think we'll expect to see, that's when you're going to get into the penalty phase if there are any guilty verdicts here. the government is going to try to show aggravating accounts that should require this young man to go to the death penalty. they have fought hard to get this to be a death qualifying case. conversely, the defense is going to argue mitigating factors bringing in a lot of witnesses suggesting tamerman tsarnaev had so much influence on his brother not preserve lis radicalized until his brother got into his head and got him involved in the plot. that process is likely to start we think a few days after the verdicts are read. we don't expect the jury will reach a verdict today, although it's possible. closing arguments up and through the lunch hour today probably. jose? >> ron mott thank you. talk more about what's next in the boston bombing trial another major trial developing knissthis hour. massachusetts, kendal coffey with me. a pleasure to see you.
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>> thanks jose. put on your former prosecutor hat. what is the biggest concern? >> well the biggest concern for the prosecution in the tsarnaev case this case it's not overdoing it. don't burn out this jury and i think an hour is plenty of time not too much time to just recapitulate, summarize, present what the jury has already seen. one of the most overwhelming powerful prosecution cases in any court in this country. >> yeah. and the defense is really had a very limited defense, because they've essentially recognized that he did it. it's been a very limited defense. >> very limited. typically in a criminal defense case the cross-examination of prosecution witnesses one of the biggest parts has been non-existent here. just four witnesses. this is a less is more defense strategy all the way and you can expect to see that with the closing argument. it will be muffch less than the hour allotted time. >> turn to the other trial happens in massachusetts.
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the aaron hernandez murder trial. he pleaded not guilty to the death of odin lloyd. tell me about that. >> the prosecution has a very strong circumstantial case. and that's a kind of scenario where the defense can rely on weaknesses in the prosecution case. for example, never actually found a murder weapon. no real motive has been developed. so what the defense needs to do is come up with some explaination of if aaron hernandez didn't do it how was odin lloyd murdered and who do it? >> does hernandez take the stand? >> he doesn't. >> why. >> because he's got other issues that could come out, including prior charges that he's facing in a 2012 -- that aren't part -- that's a key thing for him, because if those other two murder charges were before this jury, it would be very, very difficult. >> so how does being on the stand make it possible for these other charges to seep into this
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trial? >> when you take the stand, you expose yourself to cross-examination by the prosecution. and they'll pursue aggressively getting into other things. so the last thing a defendant wants to do and if you're sitting where hernandez is sitting, gut on the stand and be subject to cross-examination an other accusations. >> a pleasure. >> thank you. and "rolling stone" magazine retracted an article an a gang rape alleged at a university of virginia frat house after a scathing article called it failure of journalism. in about three hours columbia will address its findings in a news conference. "rolling stone" issued an appall you? last night titled a rape on campus titled "jackie," apologize are for damage it did to the fraternity and uva. the aunl hear not apologized but issues this statement saying i did not go far enough to verify
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her story. i allowed my concern for jackie's well-being fear of retraumatizing her and confidence in letter credibility to take the place of more questioning and more facts. at the same time uva the president issued a statement saying in part irresponsible journalism unjustly damaged the rep tass of many innocent individuals and the university of virginia. live at columbia university in new york good morning. what are we expecting to hear at this news conference today? >> good morning, jose. we'll hear this morning the authors of the columbia journalism school report including the dean of the journalism school steve cole go through think 12,000 word indictment what went wrong in "rolling stone"'s story, "a rape on campus." among the findings based on 400 pages of notes from the journalists, full cooperation of "rolling stone," among findings were that basic journalistic processes were not followed here. those included following up with the friends that jackie said were very callous to her on the
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night of the alleged attack. included continuing to follow-up on finding the accused, that jackie's described supposedly raped her on that night and those included basic fact-checking questions that really didn't pertain to any particular request from the victim. one of the statements that the magazine made was that they were trying to be sensitive to jackie, and not retraumatize her but that's very much dismissed by the report that's going to be discussed at the news conference today. the authors say that basic fact-checking, basic reporting and checking sources and not any kind of alleged sensitivity to the victim that was supposedly in this case would have allowed them to see that this victim was not credible. that this person potentially was not telling the truth or misremembered something, because those processes were not followed "rolling stone"'s reputation was severely damaged. >> thank you for being with me. to that landmark nuclear agreement between the international community and
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iran, president obama's job is to convince folks that this is a good deal whether it be congress the american people or the leader of israel. >> one of the unfortunate, eastern tragic results of this deal if it guess through, is that it would spark an arms race among the sunni states a nuclear arms race in the middle east and the middle east crisscross with nuclear trip wires is a nightmare for the world. >> ambassador -- >> israel is right to be concerned about iran. and they should be absolutely concerned that iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon. what i would say to the israeli people is, however, that there is no formula, there is no option to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon that will be more effective than the diplomatic initiative and framework we've put forward. >> i want to bring in ambassador mark ginsburg former white house mideast policy advisor.
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nice to see you. >> good morning, when it comes to the opposition of the deal how much revolves around concerns for israel's security? >> quite a bit of that, i'm sure, jose. after all, the israelis have to deal not only with iran with a potential nuclear weapon but also with hamas, hezbollah and all iranian-state sponsor of terrorism israel is dealing with and that's a legitimate concern and raises the question should the united states go further to allay those concerns in the critics of the administration in the united states by negotiating some sort of defense agreement with israel that would in effect eliminate the ambiguity over what happens if this iran agreement is cheated on by the iranians and the obama administration for all intents and purposes is no longer in office at that point whampts. >> what would that entail that isn't already in place? >> indeed. the fact is that this framework agreement has to reach a final agreement by june 30th. number one. number two, congress is clearly
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going to have a critical eye over it and three, there are models of these types of defense agreements. we have a mutual defense agreement with japan, for example, that's outside the nato framework. it seems to me while i'm not pushing this issue, the idea of israel's insecurity on this could very much cloud the capacity of the administration to negotiate a final agreement by june 30th. so i just am recommending we be a little more creative as to what we can do with both congress and with israel to assuage those concerns. >> ambassador, i want to play a part what the president said about his overall foreign policy doctrine and the idea of putting diplomacy first. >> we are powerful enough to be able to test these propositions without putting ourselves at risk. >> that's interesting. >> and that's the thing that sometimes as i hear these debates going on, people don't seem to understand. the doctrine is we will engage but we preserve all our kparlts.
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capabilities. >> what do you make of the so-called obama doctrine? >> not necessarily buying into a doctrine until i actually see how the doctrine works. i want to see the president succeed in this because in the end if it is a good agreement supported by our allies that goes a long way, jose in assuaging congressional concerns and after all it does keep a united front. let's be clear here. there are very important disagreements already that popped up against iran and the yitsd over the interpretation of this agreement. for example, iran believes sanctions will be lifted immediately. that's not what the united states said's in so far as engaging adversaries, let's be clear. this was one small arrow in a much complex picture with iran. i would have liked to have seen the president, for example, insist the four americans be released as part of this agreement. i would have liked to have seen the president say to iran if you want an agreement, you have
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to stop your support for hamas. you have to in effect begin unwinding your state sponsor of terrorism. this was of course you know the administration in a sense took this agreement and said the only issue here is the nuclear agreement, but yet everyone is focusing on iran's greater threats, and that's really the, where the tire hits the road here. >> yeah and then the issue, ambassador that if indeed iran does have some possibility of in the future having the possibility of a nuclear weapon then other countries in the middle east that right now don't could see that as a threat and also an incentive for them to start some process towards that same thing? >> well indeed that's what prime minister netanyahu said nap saudis the turks, egyptians and others will accelerate their nuclear program which, of course raises a -- which is contrary to the president's own nonproliferation policy. let's be clear here jose as we wrap this up. the most important thing for our viewers to understand is that there's a long way to go before
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there's a victory lap here on this agreement, number one. number two what is the recourse that the administration of united states will have if iran violates this agreement? what's going to be put in place for recourse if this warranty is violated? >> ambassador ginsburg thanks for being with me this monday sure. several new developments in kenya following last week's deadly attack on a university. you saw it last week on "the rundown." terrorists with the al shabaab militant group killed 148 people targeted christians. in the past couple hours kenya launched air strikes in somalia. the group claimed responsibility for thursdayal attack in garissa, and a disturbing new report from the daily nation newspaper says a special kenyan tactical unit waited seven hours before responding to that university attack. the report says the specially trained unit finally stormed the campus. took them only 30 minutes to kill the four gunmen also new, kenyan's interior ministry says
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one of the four gunmen identified at 20-year-old law student and son of a government official. that official reported his son missing last year. just getting started on this monday edition of "the rundown." the race for the white house is on for the republican side while the clock is starting to tick for hillary clinton. to possibly declare her candidacy. what could she be waiting on? we'll talk about that after the break. also, mother nature is helping out california with its drought crisis at least a little bit. and a delaware family's dream vacation to the caribbean turned out to be anything but. what may have sent all four family members to the hospital.
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republican candidates are slowly jumping into the 2016 presidential race. senators rand paul and marco
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rubio could soon announce their campaigns. that announcement from senator paul coming tomorrow in kentucky, but the clock is ticking also for hillary clinton after signing a lease an an apparent campaign headquarters, a small window of time to file paperwork with the federal election commission. expecting an announcement any day. with me alex sikes wald and ed gearan of "the washington post." alex what is hillary clinton waiting on at this point? >> jose a lot that goes into launching a presidential campaign. even though she's had more than two years since stepping down at secretary of state, big pieces of her campaign team to put in place. she wants every duck in a row because of who she is her profile and strength can't afford to start out small and ramp up slowly. she wants to make everything is locked and tight. look at recent examples of scott walker and jeb bush who had to let staffers go over embarrassing elements in their past. doesn't want anything like that. just wants to be ready to go
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from day one. >> and now this has been obviously a very meticulous process of getting ready but no you know no exploratory committee. it's straight in to the campaign? >> yeah. we expect sometime in roughly the next ten days that she will announce. what may be termed an eded an exploratory committee, that or the full one, either way the legal architecture to hire staff and as alex said really start to get her campaign ramped up. there is one thing, though that is a bit sort of counterintuitive here. yes, she can't afford to take her time about this, but she also is proceeding with a strategy of, to about an extent smaller is better. smaller campaign events more intimate settings more geared to letting her connect directly with voters in the view she does better in those settings and they look less like she's
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already taking a general election nomination for granted if she does more small-scale things that look more like a primary. >> and alex that would be different than the last time around for her? >> yeah. absolutely. the message this time around as anne said they're not taking anything tore granted. they're going to fight for every vote, and they want to emphasize that that kind of more human, more down to earth scale hillary clinton. in 2008 an impression she came in with a huge apparatus of high-profile washingtonened new york politicos and they steam rolled across the country and didn't care about local activists. they're trying to reverse that entirely, turn it on its head emphasis on small dollar donations grass roots activation and smaller events as anne said instead of large-scale rallies. they'll come but later on. still they want the team that campaign apparatus in space to project strength and really working for it and not taking it for granted.
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>> anne she's pretty well-known. right? been in the public eye for decades now. how do you relaunch someone that people already pretty much know? >> one of the biggest challenges she has. i mean on its face nearly 100%, name identification in poll after poll would sound like a good thing. right? >> right. >> but that also means that almost everybody, not only knows who she is but has already formed an opinion are her, good or bad. not to say that that opinion can't change and not to say that for many people their opinions are largely positive but still it's -- she's really the most universally defined figure who's run for public office in really, anyone's memory. and so a challenge for her campaign as she begins to start getting out there and talking to voters is to i mean rebrand is one term. sounds a bit madison avenue but
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that's whale they're try to do bp say yes, you know hillary clinton but you don't know everything about her. here are some things they hope will connect her to individual voters, and that's where the policy starts to come in and that's where her strengths or weaknesses on the campaign stump will really come to bear. >> anne gearan of "the washington post" and alex sikes wads, thank you for being with me. after the break, zoom through top stories including the latest cartel member busted in mexico and britain's prince harry reporting for duty in australia. we'll explain what he's doing there and show you a fun encounter he had with a young fan, next. your mom's got your back. your friends have your back. your dog's definitely got your back. but who's got your back when you need legal help? we do. we're legalzoom, and over the last 10 years, we've helped millions of people protect their families and run their businesses. we have the right people on-hand to answer your questions
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spends the next month training with the australian military -- harry, i should say --. the prince visited the war memorial laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier and greeted people in the rain outside waiting including a 12-year-old boy holding a sign that said "red heads rule." the prince reportedly told the young man, being a red head is the number one thing a person can be. especially, i guess if you're a red head. after a quick break here on "the rundown," a live looka at the aaron hernandez murder trial going on in massachusetts. starting to present its case. a live report also from a delaware family that winds up in the hospital while on vacation in the u.s. virgin islands. they're so sick the justice department is investigating. tell what you may have caused it, next.
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york stock exchange for the opening bell. also opening day for major league baseball money b and former baseball all-stars including mike piazza and former yankees player ringing bell today. developing now in a boston area courtroom, the trial just resumed for former nfl star aaron hernandez accused of murder and his lawyers begin presenting their defense today after prosecutors spent more than two months laying out their case. hernandez charged were killing odin lloyd in 2013. lloyd dating the sister of hernandez' fiancee. the latest from nbc's ron allen. ron, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. how are you? >> good. what are we expecting today? >> reporter: we're expecting a very brief defense presentation. the defense is basically maintaining the prosecution hasn't proven their case. largely a circle case. no eyewitness. no murder weapon recovered. and right now on the stand is a expert on matters such as pcp, angel dust drugs. the defense trying to essentially say, there were two
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other men with hernandez when this happened allegedly, and they're trying to connect them to the crime by bringing on this expert who talks about pcp use and violent, violence and these two men who were not on trial here, allegedly have histories of drug use and so forth. so the defense is trying to put into the jury's mind somebody else did this, even though the prosecution has something of a pretty good case suggesting hernandez may have been at the scene of the crime. the most damming evidence is the home video recorded by hernandez' own home security system. a couple clips show him carrying what appears to be and what the prosecution insists is a gun right after the murder happened about a mile from his home pap whole lot of home security video showing that what happened that night and it shows hernandez leaving his home with these two other men.
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shows him just afterwards how the prosecution built its case with circle evidence. ironically the stuff from this video from his own home putting him at the scene of the crime but have not come up with a clear motive. many analysts say. and no evidence saying hernandez pulled the trigger. whether all this will be enough to convince the jury or not remains to be seen and could probably get the case soon if in fact the defense holds to what they've didn't saying they'll have a brief presentation basically saying the prosecution didn't prove its case so this man should go free. jose? >> ron allen, thank you. back to that preliminary agreement with iran one that president obama calls "once in a lifetime opportunity to shrink the nuclear threat in the middle east." critics, of course, see it the other way. some describe it as a giveaway to iran escaping international sanctions in exchange for restrictions that only slow their nuclear program instead of stopping it. the president told the "new york
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times" it's a chance to see if sirn really iran is really willing to change. >> over the last several years i think we've seen the opportunity for those forces within iran that want to break out of the rigid framework they've been in for a long time to move in a different direction. it's not a radical break but it's one that i think offers us the chance for a different type of relationship, and this nuclear deal i think, is a potential expression of that. >> more negotiations are still to come. the final agreement is due to be signed by the 30th of june. and now to the continuing debate over those new religious freedom laws in indiana and arkansas. this morning republicans eyeing the white house still are figuring out their position on the laws. over the weekend two potential gop 2016 candidates weighed in. rick santorum and bobby jindal
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supporting the laws and disappointed in the so-called fixes. good morning. >> good morning. >> where do things stand from the viewpoint of those who oppose these laws? >> opponents to the religious freedom measures view these fixes as step back from the cliff but not a full solution yet. so in indiana the fix that governor pence signed into law bars discrimination against lgbt people in employment housing and public accomodation. absent were protections in education and health care. so a pharmacist could see conceiveably deny hiv medication or hormone therapy based on religious objections. these civil liberties advocates are really looking for, statewide laws barring discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity making lgbt people a protected class and then additionally, if states want religious freedom measures on
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the books, civil liberties advocates are looking for explicit language in those measures stating they cannot be used to undermine existing civil rights laws. >> yeah. and talk more how the bills are viewed and the fight in lgbt rights. are they the new marriage equality? >> absolutely, jose. this is a freedom movement the next front in the battle for lgbt rights. polls show now that a majority of americans do support same-sex marriage, but it will be a real test of those views when you ask people not only to accept same-sex marriage but potentially participate in some way in those weddings and provide services. >> msnbc's emma margely in new york. thank you. the department of justice is investigating a dream vacation in the caribbean turning into a nightmare for a delaware family. two teenage boys and their father treated for apparent poisoning. from a possibly lethal pesticide that's used where they were staying in the u.s. virgin
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islands. nbc's stephanie gosk has the latest. >> reporter: the edmunds booked a week in st. john an idyllic caribbean getaway. soon after the vacation began last month the family became violently sick calling paramedics all four rushed to the hospital. the rental agency says their second floor condo was directly above a similar property recently sprayed for bugs. the epa believes exterminators used methyl bromide, a highly toxic pesticide used indoors is illegal in the u.s. and the u.s. virgin islands. >> methyl berm i'd is a potent neurotoxin that could really damage your central nervous system. >> reporter: the father a head master at a private middle school in delaware and his two teenage sons airlifted to the u.s. for treatment family and friends hoping for the best. >> wish them the best of luck. we're prey praying for them.
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>> reporter: taking part in a criminal investigation led by the department of justice told the company used the pesticide. >> no one in this day and age should be applying mythal bromide indoors. >> reporter: a statement from the parent company of terminix reads, first ap foremost the family is in our prayers. we're cooperating with authorities in their investigation and conducting our own thorough internal investigation. the family spokes penn tells nbc the esmond family thanks everyone to are their support and concern for their recovery from this unthinkable tragedy and the family is confident the responsible parties will be brought to justice and held accountable. >> that was nbc's stephanie gosk reporting. still ahead, talking about a story we spent so much time covering last year. the unaccompanied minors crossing the border in the united states. the numbers may be down but is a crisis averted this year? talking about that, after the break. scott: appears buster's been busy. man: yeah, scott. i was just about to use the uh... scott: that's a bunch of ground-up paper, lad!
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. and now to our southern border with mexico where ats they time last year the number of unaccompanied minors apprehended at the border was over 21,000 by the end of 2014 that number hit nearly 70,000. the number is down 42% so far this year, but that is only one side of the story. are we heading there again? that's the question posed by our next guest joining me now. lauren fox from "the national journal." pleasure. >> thanks to having me. >> so these numbers look like progress, but what's your reporting telling you about what is really happening on the other side of the border? >> in talking with experts who monitor migration patterns through central america into the united states, they're saying that while the united states southern border numbers are showing a major decrease if you look at mexico's southern border those numbers have actually gone up. that is telling us mexico is actually taking enforcement much more seriously.
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they're starting to deport children and central americans at a much faster rain than maeve wean seen and heard reports they've started to try to crack down on the use of the train a lot of american migrants have used for years to travel through mexico. they've sped up the trains been much more careful about enforcement, making sure people don't jump on top of those trains and ride them for thousands of miles which we've seen over the last ten years. there are a lot of things happening here. mostly mexico stepped up its enforcement, which is a big change from what we've seen in the past. >> absolutely. as a matter of fact, there are some numbers to just tell that story as far as mexico's concerned. central american detentions up 200% from last year. >> uh-huh. >> you know we've heard about la vastia and things like that. what about the possibility that the time of the year also has people cutting back on their travel, and it seems as though
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summers are times when people decide to try to head up north? >> well certainly. part of what we've also seen we should note is that the push factor is things like gang violence murder rates. violence in the central american countries, have not abated. those issues are still very much in play here. >> that's right. >> the u.s. government will tell you when they had their p.r. campaign last year to try to educate migrants in central america about the dangers of the journey, that's one of the factors why we've seen less travel to the u.s. border. of course when we look at the dangerous journey from even central america to mexico and those numbers going up i don't know if that's really a convincing argument at this point and summer is really when we'll see the jump. >> yeah. i meepan, tough to believe if you're shot at or family threatened and kills a p.r. campaign will make you decide one way or another whether to do something like leave your country or not, but the obama administration has is new reunification program in place
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for central american kids what this program does is allow individuals in the u.s. legally, some kind of legal status. doesn't have to be citizenship, to apply for family members especially some of the central migrant kids to come to the united states. i will say that the, you know, obama administration has not advertised this program super widely in the united states. they've been updating their website, of course and we understand why, of course with the executive order we saw last fall and sort of the pushback that the president got from congress, why maybe they're not out there touting this program, but it is an option for families. more than 300 families applied. no one approved yet. so this is certainly a little slow-moving, but the point of it is to keep these kids from coming through the dangerous traffic, through this dangerous traffic, the networks and get here simply by applying instead of having to take this journey. >> there are still a lot of kids that came over with their mother
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or their father that are in detention almost a year later. >> officer working through the legal system. a lot of -- when i talk to activists a lot of people say these kids are coming to the u.s. court system not even necessarily represented. so certainly a lot of work even to do from last year's migrant crisis we saw along the border. >> seems as though last year a lot of officials were caught by surprise at the number of unaccompanied minors crossing the border. what are they doing this year to try to not be caught offgourd should it happen again xwnchts? >> when i spoke with u.s. border patrol, optimistic about the numbers being low at this point and the careful to say they're not expecting the numbers to surge because a lot of this is uncontributable. talking migration patterns this is a refugee crisis and difficult to predict exactly what's going to happen. >> and showing images lauren of a train you talked about that kind of starts in the mexican side in the chiapas area and
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heads up north. a lot of migrants wait for the train to slow down or stop and then they get on top of it. it's really you know kind of industrial stuff they transport from south central america, i should say up to motion coe and they actually run on to the tracks an jump on this track and a lot of them fall they die. they lose limbs. it's going on every single day. could it be -- >> very dangerous. >> could it get worse? certainly could this summer. appreciate your time. >> thank you. after the break, we turn to sports. i'm told there's a big, a big game tonight, in this stadium. that's in indianapolis. the nfl's indianapolis colts usually play football there, but tonight the duke versus wisconsin for the ncaa basketball championship and next i talk with a guy who pretty much predicted this matchup right here on "the rundown." we'll see who he thinks has the edge tonight. but first, "furious 7" a major edge at the box office over the weekend. the franchise from our sister
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it's a huge moment in the sports world. tonight the duke blue devils battle the wisconsin badgers for the ncaa college basketball championship. and right here on "the rundown" before the tournament started we talked to nbc sports radio network host about what to expect. his comments prophetic. >> one thing we know about march madness is it's totally unpredictable. so we think it's going to be about kentucky and maybe the other top seeds, but every year there are huge surprises. and, you know there are upsets. the question is do you pick the right upsets when you fill out your own brackets. i think if you want to pick someone else besides kentucky i
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would pick wisconsin. >> i think duke will make it to the final four. >> wow. rob joins me now live from new york. hey, rob, so what do you have like a crystal ball or something? >> just a little luck i guess. i really don't know. listen, i had wisconsin coming into this. they had to get revenge. they wanted revenge from the heartbreaking loss they had to kentucky in the national semifinal last year. they were on a mission. they got that revenge. now the question is can the badgers finish the job against a duke team that has been playing better than anyone else in this tournament to this point. duke hasn't even played a close game yet, jose in the tournament. they've won every single one of their games by ten points or more. so i think wisconsin has more than its work cut out for them against duke tonight. >> how do they stack up against duke? >> it's a great matchup. we're going to all be watching a matchup of the two best big men in college basketball. frank kakaminski.
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the freshman will be who to watch. i think when it comes to pure talent, duke has eight high school all-americans on the duke team where wisconsin has known. but wisconsin has more experience. they are playing with a lot of momentum right now. i think this is going to be a great game. >> so what do you think is the secret to duke's success? >> well, you know listen the legendary coach there is one of the best recruiters in the game. the key to being good in college basketball is simple recruit the best players. that's what you have to do. and he does that year in and year out. he's got another roster stacked full of nba prospects. and that's why they do welcome biened with his great ability as a coach. you know bo ryan takes a bit of a different approach. he doesn't recruit the high-flying nba prospects. he has guys for two or three or four years on campus. has a chance to develop them into the kind of players he
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likes. so it's really two very different styles jose. one thing you've got to look at these two teams did play each other bag in december. duke played up in madison, wisconsin beat the badgers by ten points. you look at that result and you have to like duke again. >> so give me your prediction? >> well i predicted wisconsin to win this tournament before the tournament started. i can't walk away from that now, jose. i got to stick with it. so i'm going with the badgers. but i think this is a harder game for them to win. >> high scoring? >> i've got it as a pretty high scoring game 69-65 wisconsin. that was my pick before the tournament started. so i got to stick with my guns. >> all right. i think i'm going to have to have you back if they do win. and then since you are like the czar of correct picks, do you have any thoughts on who could win the next world cup which you can see on telemundo network. not that i'd bet or anything but, rob any thoughts on the world cup? >> that's in russia right?
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>> yeah. >> i guess you got to go with a european team. i hate to say it but i would probably have to like germany again. that's a long time from now. don't hold me to that one. >> but you're a czar. any lottery numbers you like? >> have you enjoyed the tournament jose? you weren't into this before. have you gotten into it? >> i've gotten into it a little bit. but i had to do a lot of easter egg hunts over the weekend. i have two daughters so -- >> me too. i'm in the same boat. >> good to see you. thanks. you can catch rob's show "sports matters" on shift which you can find on and we should note the women take their turn tomorrow when the university o connecticut huskies faceoff against notre dame for the ncaa women's title. we're watching developments in two trials. closing arguments getting underway in the boston marathon bombing trial sdoedzhokhar tsarnaev.
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followed by the defense. we don't expect the defense will take anywhere near an hour. we do believe that the government's presentation may go about an hour. so at this point it seems unlikely that the jury is going to get the case much before lunchtime. traditionally they've been breaking for lunch about 1:00 eastern time. we think by the time the two sides present their cases and maybe there's a rebuttal and the judge then reads the instructions, that could take them through lunch. so perhaps the jury the earliest we might see them get the case is some time after court resumes after lunch. >> ron mott in boston. thank you so much. right now i want to bring in columnist for the boston globe. dante, good morning. >> hello. >> how have they done so far? >> it's been a tricky situation for them because in the guilt phase of the trial, which is in the phase we're in they're really supposed to be talking about, you know whether
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dzhokhar tsarnaev participated in the efbts or not. and they've basically concluded a lot of that. they've been able to inject a little bit of the argument that they want to make into this. they have leaned heavily on evidence that the older brother's fingerprints were on a lot of stuff that dzhokhar's fingerprints were not on quite literally. the government has done a little bit of this also leaning more heavily on evidence suggesting that dzhokhar was an active participant in the trial. even though they weren't really supposed to get to some of those issues until the next phase of the trial, it's leaked into the first part. >> let's talk about that. any indications whether tsarnaev will testify in the next penalty phase? >> i don't think we've seen any indications of that to this point. there's been -- you know there has been some question about other witnesses who might have been called to testify such as tamerlan's wife who has not
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testified. an american-born person living out there and unclear what she would bring to it. but there's still a second phase of this tril. so we'll see. >> yeah. the prosecution, what do we expect from them as they pursue the death penalty? >> i think we could expect to see more of the same. in this first part of the trial they have strongly emphasized the pain and suffering of the victims, the deliberate nature of the incident the sort of premeditation of it. and then also as i said they've tried to emphasize the fact that dzhokhar was an active participant in parts of this. they have emphasized that he had various al qaeda inspired material on his electronic devices. they emphasized how he was a participant in getting the gun that was used to shoot an m.i.t. police officer after the bombing. so you know what they'll try to do i think consistently is present more evidence of active
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involvement, of culpability, of knowledge of what it is they were trying to do as opposed to what the defense has been suggesting which is that dzhokhar was a kind of you know easy going, easily led kid who was just brainwashed by his older brother. >> dante ramos, thanks for being with me. >> thank you. >> we'll keep an eye on closing arguments. bring you developments as they development. right now rolling stones magazine has retracted an article about an alleged gang rape at a university of virginia fraternity house that sparked a nationwide -- comes university of grad school journalism called "the article of "failure of journalism." columbia will hold news conference about its findings. a young woman called jacqui and the magazine apologized for any damage it did to the fraternity and uva community.
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"i did not go far enough to verify her story. i allowed my concern for jackie's well-being my fear of re-traumatizing her and my confidence in her credibility to take the place of more questioning and more facts." the woman featured in the article, jackie has stood by her story in the past. she had no comment on last night's release. nbc's charles hadlock is live near the university campus. >> reporter: the uva campus has had to live with the stigma associated with this rolling stone article that has now been discredited and now retracted. but the damage has been done. uva president teresa sullivan issued a statement last night. she said that the rolling stone story, rape on campus did nothing to combat sexual violence. and it damaged serious efforts to address the issue. irresponsible journalism she added, unjustly damaged the
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reputations of many innocent individuals and the university of virginia. jose. >> and, charles, beyond rolling stone retracting this story, what's the reaction about the possible impact this could have in terms of the battle against rape and sexual violence on college campuses? >> reporter: yeah. many of the groups that deal with sexual violence on campus say this is a setback, that the rolling stone article chose an extreme example that turned out to be unsubstantiated. they say other victims who may come forward will be less inclined to do so for fear that no one will believe them. but an unexpected consequence of this will be perhaps a teachable moment in journalism classes across the country. this will undoubtedly be a case study for journal students going forward, jose. >> charles hadlock, thank you so much. turning to the international nuclear deal with iran and president obama's effort to sell it back here at home in an extensive interview with "new york times," he said the agreement is the best way to diffuse the nuclear threat and protect america's ally israel.
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nbc's foreign affairs chief correspondent andrea mitchell has more. >> reporter: with the nuclear deal under fire from israel and many in congress president obama chose acclaimed "new york times" columnist, thomas friedman, to develop a defense of the framework and guarantee israel's defense. >> i understand that prime minister netanyahu is expressing the deep-rooted concerns that a lot of the israeli population feel about this. what we will be doing even as we enter into this deal is sending a very clear message to the iranians and to the entire region that if anybody messes with israel america will be there. >> let me start -- >> reporter: that will not appease prime minister netanyahu on "meet the press". >> i think this deal is a dream deal for iran and nightmare for the world. >> reporter: the administration is counting on secretary of
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state kerry's partner ernest moniz. >> this is a long-term arrangement. >> reporter: but since thursday's agreement, iran and the u.s. are disagreeing about what they settled on in lausanne. back in tehran iran's foreign minister zarif is disputing u.s. claims that sanctions would be phased out gradually, key nuclear facilities contained and stockpiles of nuclear fuel eliminated. >> this seems to have been designed so as to create enough space for each side to build the political support it needed to get us to a final agreement. >> andrea mitchell reporting. thank you so much. turning to yemen. heavy fighting is going on and around the southern port city of aiden. it's the final stronghold to the yemeni government. so far the houthis have managed to secure their grip on most of yemen's big cities and chase the
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elected president from the country despite air strikes and weapons shipments from saudi arabia and allies. calling on pakistan to send troops to the region raising a possibility that a ground war may be next. coming up, the race for the white house is about to get a little more crowded. details on senator rand paul's big announcement expected tomorrow. and do we have it? take a look at this. the white house. tens of -- well there are a lot of people that are there for a little fun and fitness at the annual easter egg roll. president obama expected to speak live at the event at 10:30 eastern. we'll carry those remarks right here on "the rundown." [ male announcer ] marie callender's knows you may not have time to roll out a perfectly flaky crust that's made from scratch. or mix vegetables with all white meat chicken and homemade gravy. but marie callender's does. just sit down and savor. marie callender's. it's time to savor.
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well looks like the race for the white house is going to
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get a little more crowded this month. beginning tomorrow kentucky senator rand paul expected to launch his campaign in louisville. he released a video on his website overnight calling himself a different type of republican. and next week florida senator marco rubio's expected to announce his presidential bid. he'll join texas senator ted cruz the first prominent republican formally in the race. with me from washington nbc senior political editor mark murray and msnbc political correspondent casey hut. good morning. >> good morning. >> let's talk about senator paul. >> he's going to launch his campaign or expected to launch his campaign in louisville in kentucky where of course his political career kicked off when he was elected to the senate in 2010. and after that he's going to embark on a tour of the early states. he'll head first, actually to new hampshire where his father came in second in the 2012 presidential election. then he'll go onto south carolina where he'll speak about foreign policy on the u.s.s.
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yorktown. that's an interesting place for him right now from a policy perspective considering what's going on with iran and isis. he's in a place that's a little different from the rest of the republican field and could be problematic in the long run. he'll conclude his tour in iowa with a rally at iowa state. i think you can expect to see a lot of the enthusiasm there that drove his father's presidential campaign in 2012. >> and, mark let's talk about the numbers when it comes to senator paul's poll numbers our latest nbc news/"the wall street journal" poll found 49% of republicans could see themselves supporting him. how much does he have outside the gop primary? >> it's still very early in the race. but when it comes to some matchups particularly in a general election jose rand paul does have some strengths with independents. he does well or better with younger voters than most republicans do. he also has some potential and i stress the word potential when
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it comes to african-american voters particularly on his comments on race in the wake of what happened in ferguson missouri. but as ksaie was alluding to do his biggest challenge is probably going to be within his own party. in 2013 and first part of 2014 when the conversation was about liberty, freedom, edward snowden, those were all in rand paul's wheelhouse because of his libertarian views, his less than hawkish views on foreign policy. but the more the conversation is about iran the more it's about isis you end up seeing the dominant republican response as being very very hawkish on foreign policy. and rand paul is in a different place with the rest of his party. and that's not a good place for him. >> and, kasie, talk about that. in the past he has expressed differences. he says he's a different kind of republican, on foreign affairs it seems he clearly is different. >> jose, i think that's right. as mark was just alluding to he's trying to do this in a number of different ways. he's trying to reach out to communities that have not supported the republican party in the recent past. he's made speeches that
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historically black colleges and universities. he's talked about things like criminal justice reform. and that puts him in a place that does earn kudos from some people in the party who know demographically they have to expand the party if they're going to survive in the long-term. but i think that what's going on with his views on foreign policy, you know he's seen the world shift around him in a way that's not particularly helpful for his long-term potential prospects in this foreign policy arena. i mean we've seen this emerge as the dominant area for republicans to really aggressively oppose the president and to oppose hillary clinton who is vulnerable on this as the previous secretary of state under president obama. >> yeah. i mean look as far as republicans and major possible candidates are concerned, he's also been reaching out -- for example, he's been much more accessible to spanish language television than senator cruz and others. he's actually been able to speak to spanish language television
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in contrast with others. but, mark let's talk a bit about some of the other polls that show that paul is either close or even ahead of hillary clinton in some swing states. at the end of the day how much of the republican primary is going to be about someone who can beat hillary clinton? >> i think that's going to be a part of it. but our own polling has shown people actually care more about where you stand on particular issues. and, again that's why the foreign policy conversation is so important to rand paul that in a way he kind of took off as maybe one of the most interesting characters to watch in the presidential contest because of his views on drones because he was a voice when it came for republicans about not as much intervention overseas and kind of carrying the fly his father ended up flying in his last presidential contest in 2008 and 2012. but again when the conversation turns to other things when the environment and issue matrix looks a lot more like 2004 than it does 2011 or 2012 that's not as strong of a place for rand
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paul as it normally has been. of course, jose it's important to note just like the polls, the issue environment, the issue matrix can always end up changing but now is a bit shakier time for him and where he fits in the republican party than it was maybe a year and a half ago. >> right. kasie, you'll have rand paul possibly, probably marco rubio a week after that? this is going to effect the dynamics of the race so far visa vee ted cruz. >> sure. ted cruz saw a bit of a bump in the polls with his actual announcement. shows you can still get a little bit of leverage out of a type of presidential announcement. but you're going to get others get in and we'll see the field shift after that happens. i think you're seeing rubio get in earlier here with paul and cruz. they're under slightly different rules because they're sitting senators as far as raising money is concerned i think we're going to see this go off early here in april. i think you're going to see a lot of the people bho are sitting governors raising money
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into super pacs or 529 organizations, wait a little longer so they have more time to pile up cash in those kinds of vehicles. and i think you're going to see him probably start to get in may, june, even early july. >> thank you both for being with me this morning. appreciate it. >> thanks jose. >> up next we're going to zoom through soum of the other stories making news today including shocking details revealed by a kenyan newspaper about the response to a deadly attack on a college campus. and a sports league trying to shape up its image could soon be taking a huge leap forward. and another live look at the white house where the annual easter egg hunt is getting under way. they're getting ready to go. just minutes away from the official start and festivities. more on "the rundown" next. excellent looking below the surface, researching a hunch... and making a decision
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third was an infant. all five victims are being treated at hospitals in serious condition. police say this does not appear to be a random act of violence. they're searching for three male suspects believed to be known by the victims. an historic move for the nfl. sarah thomas expected to become the league's first full-time female roster referee. since it started in 1920 the nfl has never hired a female ref in a permanent position. let's turn now to wall street with the stock market back in business after closing for good friday, it's reacting to friday's jobs report. plus gasoline production could reach record levels this year. cnbc's dominic chu joins me with more. >> stocks had reversed many of their earlier losses in this first day of trading after that good friday holiday. it's the first time that the stokt markets had a chance to
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adjusted weaker jobs report. the number was well below expectations. the labor department also revised their job numbers for both january and february saying they were 69,000 fewer jobs created than previously reported. now, meanwhile, the unemployment rate did stay steady 5.5%. that weaker jobs number is just the latest in a string of mixed data that has some investors questioning the strength 069over all u.s. economy. its led some analysts to believe the nation's central bank may wait longer before raising interest rates. as for the gasoline story, we're coming up on the all-important summer driving season and looks like gasoline will be in ample supply. that's because refiners that turn oil into things like gasoline and jet fuel they're making more of it than ever before and using more of that oil is going to help reduce the huge amount of oil supply that's been built-up here in the united states. a big question is going to be whether or not demand for gasoline will rise in the event more people travel in the summer
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months or the economy picks up some steam and companies start to ship more goods, use more trucks and of course they use gasoline and diesel. the average cost of gasoline $2.39 according to aaa. just a year ago it was $3.58. we'll see if those gasoline prices stay low, jose. back to you. >> dominic chu, thank you so much. coming up generating as much buzz as kentucky's surprising loss over the weekend "fast and furious 7" shattering box office records. detail on just how much the megaseries has already raked in. and the beginning of the end for 1960s drama "mad men." no spoiler alerts necessary. we'll discuss whether the series will end on a high note for fans. and minutes from now the time-honored tradition at the white house, the easter egg roll. and the president, we'll see him live right here on "the rundown" so what about that stock? sure thing, right? actually, knowing the kind of risk that you're comfortable with i'd steer clear.
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white house easter egg roll. a washington tradition dating back to 1878. the president and the first lady will participate in the event on the south lawn which features live music, sports and of course egg rolling for kids. this year's focus will be on fitness with many pro-athletes in attendance to help keep the 35,000 guests active. the president is about to speak live from the south lawn. we'll be carrying those remarks as soon as he begins. but more now on the nuclear agreement between iran and the west just as president obama is defending the deal here at home the iranian foreign minister is doing the same thing in tehran during a weekend interview he said iran is committed to fulfilling its end of the bargain. but it's not going well with an emerging contingent of hardliners that aren't exactly happy with the deal. nbc news tehran bureau chief joins me now. ali, good morning. how is the iranian government selling this deal? >> well jose as you mentioned the iranian foreign minister
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javad zarif was speaking and selling it as a good deal. but he was also careful to point out that it's not carved in stone yet. he said tehran would be able to return to its nuclear activity if the west withdraws from the pact due to be finalized in june. he said that iran has the power to take corresponding action and able to return its nuclear program to the same level. adding that the framework deal in switzerland wasn't binding until it's been signed on june 30th. his remarks aimed to reassure hardliners in iran who oppose this framework agreement. some hardliners complained about not being able to criticize the deal on state tv confining their views to hardline newspapers and websites while others complain about being left with just enough centrifuges to make carrot juice. one hardliner lawmaker today was in parliament holding up a
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plaquepla card saying nit contract brings foreign domination is not welcome. the deal seems to be overwhelmingly backed by iran's government. wants to reassure the neighbors we're not off the nuclear bombs, security for our neighbors is security for us too. jose. >> there does seem to be some disagreements about exactly what is in this deal. and the iranians are saying one thing about what's in the deal and what isn't. and it seems as though the united states has a different view on some issues right? >> that's right. sanctions seem to be an issue. zarif took objection to secretary kerry using the word suspension rather than termination regarding sanctions against iran. adding that he'd formally complained to the secretary that measures lifted in american statement were in contradiction to what had actually been accepted in lausanne. although there also seems to be
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difference over future research and development. how that will be conducted, how long restrictions will remain on that. but these are details that can be ironed out before the comprehensive agreement on june. i think one of the biggest tests today will be that if this deal is signed how will the revolutionary guard act to intrusive inspections? as it is they've already denied iaea to inspections. they don't usually take well to pressure from abroad. so we're going to see how they're going to react to very intrusive inspections as president obama put it. >> ali in tehran thank you so much. appreciate your time. national blowback from those religious freedom laws. the message still under fire even after so-called fixes that prevent discrimination against the lbgt community. over the weekend two gop presidential candidates again voiced support for the laws. >> we aren't for discrimination
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for against any person. i think that's -- no business should dis criminatecriminate against because of who you are. but it should have the ability to say we're not going to participate in certain activities that we disagree with from a religious point of view. >> this is about business owners that don't want to have to choose between their christian faith, their sincerely held religious beliefs and being able to operate their businesses. what they don't want is the government to force them to participate in wedding ceremonies that contradict their beliefs. they simply want the right to say we don't want to be forced to participate in those ceremonies. >> with me now republican strategist and democratic strategist -- good to see you both. >> good to see you. >> how much of a debate do you think over these new laws is the gop going to be involved in especially through 2016? >> well i hope not much. i think this has been a big hoopla really about nothing. after all, jose you've mentioned here these laws exist
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at the federal level, obviously. 1993 it was approved 97-3 in the senate signed by the president. 19 states have similar laws. we can debate the nuances here the so-called fixes. quite frankly i think governor pence did a lot of damage last week when he appeared on these talk shows and really in a sense did not handle himself the right way that led to a firestorm that was really unnecessary. i think within the republican party, people want to be able to respect people's religious views by also not discriminating against individuals. that's a fine line. but i think there's precedent with the supreme court precedence in other actions that say the two can be balanced. you're absolutely right. it's when there's a compelling state interest not to overburden businesses or individuals on religious freedom issues when there isn't this compelling state interest. so i think this has been exaggerated. and frankly poorly handled by the republicans in some
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instances particularly governor pence that fueled this debate. >> so so chris, is this much ado about nothing or something that's really going to continue? because a lot of people feel directly impacted by it one way or the other. >> well it's not much ado about nothing. actually, i think this speaks to one, a problem the republican party seems to continue to have that they seem to be fighting you know last century's culture wars. listen if they think you're going to win a national election in 2016 by talking about laws and legislation that's going to limit the ability of individuals to go into a business you know with the argument being that you know it's somehow protecting another individual's religious freedom, that is not a winning argument in this day and age when the majority of the country has moved in favor of gay marriage when a majority of the country has moved past this
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issue. they seem stuck in this time warp that the reason why that is has much to do with primary politics and their inability to break with a core fringe in the republican party, this conservative fringe. they have to appease them. you see that on the sunday shows when rick santorum, governor huckabee out there talking about it as well they are terrified of this wing. and that just puts them in a terrible spot. so both on a social issue as well as, i would say, a political issue they're on the wrong side of history. >> adolfo. >> i don't see any ground swell to repeal the democratic majority's actions in 1993 and signed by president clinton to repeal actually the same law at the federal level, something barack obama also supported as a state senator. 19 states have the same -- pretty much the same laws by democrats as well. i don't see anything afoot. but let me tell you, the word gay -- but the word gay and
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lesbian doesn't appear anywhere in that legislation. >> the language in indiana was far more restrictive. if you want to have discussions -- wait a second. if you want to have debates about legislation that shouldn't have been passed 25 years ago, that's great. right. i'm not going to disagree that those laws should be changed. what we're talking about now is passing laws today in this day and age. >> very quickly, adolfo do you think this is going to be an issue by -- you know is this going to be our conversation we are going to continue to have through 2016? >> i don't believe so. and i think what happened last week is demonstrable of that jose. what happened when there was a little bit of a firestorm, the conservatives in indiana including governor pence who supported this retreated on this very quickly. and you saw the arkansas decision by governor hutchinson to veto the legislation, governor brewer vetoed in arizona. might be an issue for some
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conservatives but it will not be a general issue. >> we're going to be talking about this right through the primaries. republicans can't help themselves. >> i hope president obama moves to repeal the legislation he voted for. >> let's talk about iran very quickly. chris, and i want adolfo's concepts on this it seems the president got a lot more than was expected by some even though there seems to be obviously a lot of details to work out through the end of the summer but is this going to be a political issue? and is the house of representatives in the senate going to make this a partisan issue? >> yes. i mean listen i think it's fair to be concerned and to question, for example, is iran going to you know live up to its end of the bargain? the one thing i would ask people to keep in mind if you look at the actual deal and what it accomplished both in terms of you know basically bringing down its nuclear weapons program or its latent nuclear weapons
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program is arguably very significant. more importantly i think the part that i think people need to keep in mind is look at this issue or this agreement the of history, i think we can make an agreement with iran. it doesn't mean we're going to look the other way. it does mean i think it's a step forward in the right direction. >> adolfo. >> very quickly, first of all, chris, there is no agreement and there's no deal. there's a framework. >> don't be so pessimistic. >> that's a huge distinction. so we have to see what the details are. secondly there's enormous bipartisan concern and opposition to this. this isn't a republican issue. many democrats have this concern. the difference between soviet union and iran is the soviet union already possessed these weapons. iran now is going to be kept according to their framework with the capability in the future of using this -- >> actually that is false. >> that is false. >> that's the key. >> that is actually incorrect.
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>> that is the key. no, that's true. >> gentlemen, we'll tell you what, we'll continue this conversation. but i think that we have to find out exactly what's in this deal by the end -- >> true. >> adolfo chris, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you, jose. by the way, spring tradition is taking place at the white house this morning. a live shot. i want to take you there to the easter egg roll an event that began in the 1870s. more than 35,000 people although you wouldn't tell by this shot but there's a little kid running. so there's 35,000 people expected there today. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing joins me now with more. chris, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. >> so tens of thousands of people? >> reporter: yes, it's quite an event. i mean remember when we were kids and it was really all just about the chocolate? well this is really a very different kind of theme here. it's the fifth anniversary of the first lady's let's move campaign and the actual theme of this is #givemefive. it's going to be about making healthy lifestyle choices, but they're doing it with a lot of
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fun. for example, they're going to have some training areas where you can go and train with a professional athlete. a lot of them are from the washington area sports teams. there's going to be some singing and dancing. there's a girl group called fifth harmony, so you can imagine they'll be some moving there. so this is really about kids learning to have fun and make healthy choices. there's also going to be cooking demonstrations. healthy cooking by famous chefs like bobby flay and michael simon. and the kids can go and see what's happening in the white house vegetable garden. and then they're also going to see as you know the president and first lady in addition to the easter egg roll. the president traditionally reads to the kids and then he hits the basketball court. and i think it would be fair to say that he has had mixed results in the past. we'll see how he does this time jose. >> chris, there are also some keepsake eggs for the souvenir hunters? >> reporter: yes. >> tell us about that. >> reporter: so this is an
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easter egg roll. but these are not hard boiled eggs, again like we had in our easter baskets. they're wooden. and there are five different ones. the first four are, you know traditional kind of festive spring colors and they have the signature of the president and first lady on them. but then there's a fifth. >> very cool. >> reporter: yeah. it actually has, i guess you call it the signature, the paw prints of beau and sunny who of course are the first dogs. this is a tradition that dates back to president reagan back in 1981. they started the signature of famous people, of celebrities, sports celebrities and some politicians. so this is continuing that tradition. and it's always fun to see the kids. i can tell you when i was coming in this morning, it's not something you see every day, little people with floppy ears on very excited to get into the white house. >> chris, looks like a great day for it too, right? >> reporter: it's the first, i think, really beautiful spring day that we have had. it's supposed to be 72 by mid-afternoon. >> oh. >> reporter: which is wonderful.
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they've had some soggy easter egg rolls in the past. there's just so many fun things to do. it's just a lot better when you have a glorious day like today. and as you said as the day goes on it will start to get crowded although some of these things time out. but overall you got into -- 35,000 people will hit the other side of the white house, what we call the backyard or south lawn at some point today. >> chris before i let you go, did you say only kids look to pig out on the chocolate and eggs? is that what you implied at the beginning of our conversation? only kids do that? >> reporter: based on my personal experience yesterday, no. >> good. because it's not true. i'm guilty as charged of that myself. >> reporter: yeah. i brought leftovers today. so everybody's getting some today. >> thanks for being with me chris. great to see you. >> reporter: thanks, jose. >> we'll take a short break and be right back. rter. ♪ ♪ some come here to build something stronger. others come to build something faster... something safer... something greener.
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empowering parents and friends to help us in a daily basis. something so simple as continue talking to our kids instead of just leaving them in their own world. talk to them. try to approach them. try to touch them in a manner that they can engage to this new reality that they have. >> sofia, you have and i've talked to you a lot about this. >> yes. >> you have seen great change in your children by what you've done as a mother. so it's not just depending on others to help right? >> no. >> can kids really be helped significant significantly? >> yes, they can. especially this year they say -- encouraging us to promote more information at home to motivate parents to do it. for example, if your child is nonverbal, a thousand times you can mention your child, how are you doing today? >> even if he doesn't answer? >> even if he doesn't answer. the other thing is some of them they love eye contact with a simple movement of your hand and like towards the face of that person to you, you are doing the
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now to what was a furious weekend at the box office. talking "furious 7" from universal studios, owned by our parent company, nbc universal. it is the first time since paul walker died in a car crash. pulled in close to $144 million. the biggest april opening ever. joining me from los angeles to breakdown the number, julia bore steen. >> a massive weekend for fast and furious. it is unusual for a film franchise to stay sustained over seven movies. this shows massive demand. obviously there was interest in
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seeing paul walker's final film. it also speaks to the success of having a big ensemble cast with a diverse range of characters. in fact the audience was incredibly diverse. 37% hispanics, 24% african-american. there's a lot of talk in hollywood that the great box office returns for having such a diverse cast should encourage studios to cast diverse actors in upcoming films as well. >> you would think so but sometimes that information doesn't get to them i guess, right? you don't see the diversity as often as you think you would when you have hits like this one. >> you don't that often. when you look at the success of the fast and furious franchise, look at the giant billboards with so many different actors there, each actor representing a different ethnic variety, diversity. it speaks to the fact that people want to see movies with characters in them that look like them.
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so it is a diverse cast. i think the studios look at the success of the franchise and say what made this work so well. obviously it is exciting action fast cars all sorts of different things like that. but at the end of the day, the actors are very important and there are big stars in there, but it is also an interesting, diverse mix of people. >> then it was beginning of the end of "mad men" fans. no spoiler, is this season ending on a high note for amc? >> we will see what the ratings of. what amc did is split the final season into two parts. last year we had the first half. now we're getting the second half the final seven episodes. this show has just been a cultural touch point. everyone has been talking about it in the media. and it has been a great thing for amc, the channel that airs it helping them grow advertising revenue for ads during the show but subscription fee, they can charge the cable
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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. this is "newsnation." we begin with developing news out of boston. closing arguments are about to begin in the trial of accused marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. deliberations could start as early as today. tsarnaev faces a total of 30
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federal charges, 17 of which carry the death penalty. his attorneys already admitted that he committed the attack that killed three people and injured more than 240 others near the finish line of the boston marathon two years ago. today, his lawyers will try to set the stage for the next phase of the trial. there are two big questions that remain. will tsarnaev take the stand once the sentencing phase begins, and will he ultimately be sentenced to death. ron mott is in boston for us. i understand a number of top state law enforcement officials and commanders of watertown police department will be in court today. >> reporter: yeah hey there, tamron good morning. a busy day at the federal courthouse in south boston. a lot of law enforcement officials here inside the courtroom today to hear these verdicts being read. perhaps if we get them today. there was not much defense


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