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boing boing boing.net. >> the apple watch was explained in 1899 by conspicuous consumption. that's all it is. steve, thank you very much. well president obama says republican senators now have something in common with some of the leaders in iran and the university of oklahoma has one less racist fraternity tonight. and congressman aaron shock tried to explain to his constituents why he spends so much of their money on decorating his office and luxury travel. >> uh it's an unusual coalition. >> a responding to a letter sent by 40 republican senators to iran. >> this letter is a hard slap. >> it's deeply irresponsible. >> iran's leaders need to know that a deal not approved by congress won't be accepted by congress. >> what we're going to focus on right now is seeing if we can get a deal right now. >> significant ma alpha epsilon has shuttered its chapter at the
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university of oklahoma. >> the video shows multiple people chanting racial slurs. >> fallout over the police shooting of an unarmed african-american teenager. >> folks are angry, and i get that. >> an amtrak passenger train collided with a truck. >> we're trying to get the vehicle off the tracks. >> the real hillary clinton has not addressed the e-mail scandal yet. >> read'em. you won't find jack rodham squat. >> this is all the same cockamamie stuff. >> i don't read them. i have never sent one. >> you've never sent an e-mail? >> the apple watch is the most innovative cell phone created. >> i'm not going to stop the wheel. i'm going to break the wheel.
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♪ ♪ today 47 republican senators signed an open letter to the leaders of the islamic republican of iran saying that they should keep in mind that any agreement that iran might negotiate with president obama on nuclear weapons could be undone by the next president two years from now. president obama responded today noting that extremists in iran also oppose any deal limiting iran's nuclear capacity. >> i think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in iran. it's an unusual coalition. i think what we're going to focus on right now is actually seeing whether we can get a deal or not of the and once we do then we will if we do we'll be able to make the case to the
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american people and i'm confident we'll be able to implement it. >> in our view this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy was the response. david axelrod tweeted today a simple question, is this letter this kind of letter unprecedented? and when i read that tweet, sense i didn't know the since i didn't know the answer, i just retweeted it. >> some people have had some analogies that don't quite fit, you know reagan and iran contra and others but nothing really stands up to this level of major, you know, many major mainstream members of the united states senate deciding that they're going to kneecap the president of the united states in a fragile strategicy icic
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negotiation. i don't think it's ever happened before. >> and they're not telling iran anything they didn't already know. >> everyone knew what was going on in terms of iran knew that there are hardliners in the united states that don't support this effort to make this strategically. there are many in iran that don't support this also. what president obama's been trying to tell us all is that if we make a deal with iran and khamenei cheats we're on a track to war. if we don't have a deal we're on a track to war. so obama's trying to create a third option for how iran can prove itself, demonstrate responsible behavior over a period of time. not just to us but france great britain and germany. there are lots of stakeholders. and iran needs to prove itself in that process. but the third option that the president has carved out is what tom cotton has been trying to
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undermine today. >> and tom cotton has been trying to spread this to the presidential campaign. >> i would encourage presidential candidates to join us. we lar have four senators on the letter who are thinking about running. rick perry said he wouldn't honor a deal. and i would encourage hillary clinton to join us in saying that congress must approve any nuclear deal with iran. >> i think this guy doesn't know what he's doing. how long has he been a senator? two months? this is ridiculous. it's really outrageous. and if tom cotton wasn't a veteran of the armed forces i would say this borders on treason. i've never heard of doing this of about. you don't undermine the president of the united states. it's disrespectful not only to president obama but disrespectful to the office of the presidency. you can disagree with a foreign policy, and in fact i actually don't think that the iranians
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are trustworthy. i worry about a deal but to do something like this it just is breathtaking. >> and joy, the response from iran saying this is just propaganda. i guess they actually can read these letters for what they are. >> no. and lusly. and i think there is this tendency of members of congress that it is intent on trying to create these nuclear weapons to engage in a proactive war with israel. let's remember what we're talking about here. israel is already a nuclear power. iran would have to be completely irrational to attempt to engage in a nuclear show down with israel. that seems to me to be patently irrational. so the idea that they would want to make a deal is perfectly rational. we can't have 535 presidents of the united states. this is unheard of. during the iraq war you had congress saying they needed to step back because they didn't want to impede the generals and
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the president from waging the war in iraq. now we have the same forces that so vigorously encouraged us to go into iraq as the solution to the problems in the middle east -- it's an even crazier idea than invading iraq. you have to ask is that what they want? a war with iran? >> this reminds me of jane fonda going to hanoi. who ever heard of doing something like this? >> i just want to say, look these are highly polarizing times. 80% to 90% of the republican base disapproves of the job president obama's doing. that's even greater than when george w. bush was in president how democrats viewed him. and 75% plus don't believe he's being aggressive enough. >> so you see a calculation
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based exactly on what the polls are telling them. >> of course he's talking about presidential candidates jumping if in. >> what's missing is that tom cotton gets the law wrong as to other senators who join him. the president is either engaging in what he's been saying is a international negotiations or there is no treaty here. this isn't an arms-control treaty. so that's what's most astounding is that 4 united states senators signed on to a piece of paper that actually doesn't apply at all to what the president of the united states is doing. and what he's doing is the same measures by which we protect u.s. forces stationed overseas. it's the time kind of deal we did with russia in getting syria to get rid of its chemical weapons. you didn't see republican
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members saying we need to pass that deal with russia. so the legal dimension of this i find fascinating that so many lawmakers don't understand the law. >> can you imagine the democrats doing this to a republican president? >> no. >> they've had plenty of chances. >> this is going to have no impact. i think you're right. it's playing to the base. i'm somewhat angry about this i have to say. >> i mean the question ha has to be asked here is is president obama the president of the united states or not? there seem to be a certain percentage in this country, including 47 members of congress who answer no that they will not accept the results of two elections that were not sneaks into the white house. these were direct elections of the president of the united states. he is president. it's time for them to get over it and let him run foreign policy just the way every other president has done. >> there's a lot to be said for ignorance here. senator cotton prior to today has no idea. it never crossed his mind what the precedent might be or might not be for though.
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>> look the fact of the matter is that most americans aren't paying attention to this at all. so we're talking obliviousness all around. less than 50% of people are paying attention to this. it's a complete play to the base where they're rousing people up who are completely fine with impeaching the president. you've had numerous measures where you've tried to impeach the president. those haven't gone anywhere. but in terms to playing to the base it's not going anywhere. >> if we can't reach a deal request iranwith iran sa what they're looking for a war? >> i think it's disloyal. you and i would probably disagree. i don't trust the iranians at all. i don't know how you're going to do verification. >> i understand your position. but i think it's very important to understand that the posturing that's going on and the disdain that these senators have for president obama, they're putting it higher than one of the most
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important potential strategic leaps that really matters, not only to the united states. it's a deeply important security and strategy issue. it is not a trivial issue what we're doing with iran. it's a remarkable thing that they're posturing that way. that's where the question of patriotism and whether you stand by the nation comes in. and that's what i fault democrats on for not holding their colleagues to account on that measure. >> that's going to have to be the last word on it here. thanks steve clemons. coming up another resignation in ferguson after the justice report on the ferguson police. and 50 years after martin luther king, junior crossed the edmund pettus bridge a fraternity sounds as racist as the people who opposed dr. king. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare.
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the more common mistake is to suggest that ferguson is an isolated incident that racism has vanished.
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that the work that drew men and women to selma is now complete and that whatever racial tensions remain are a consequence of those seeking to play the race card for their own purposes. we don't need a ferguson report to know that's not true. >> the resignations continue in the aftermath of the justice department's report on the ferguson incident. the justice department showed that he brought in millions of dollars into ferguson through what they call creative use of fines and fees punishing the most vulnerable and dismissing tickets against himself and his friends. the missouri supreme court said it will take what it called the extraordinary action of reassigning all ferguson municipal court cases to the circuit court to help restore trust and confidence. last week two officers resigned
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over reported connection to racist e-mails that were exposed in the justice department report. up next the nine seconds of video that exposed stunning racism at a fraternity at the university of oklahoma. i've been coloring liz's hair for years. but lately she's been coming in with less gray than usual what's she up to? root touch-up by nice'n easy... has the most shade choices designed to match even salon color in just 10 minutes. with root touch-up, all they see is you.
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>> you have violated every principle that this university stands for. every value. in my mind you shouldn't have the privilege of calling yourselves sooners. real sooners are not bigots. >> that was oklahoma's former democratic governor and senator who is now the president of the university of oklahoma david boren condemning fraternity members at the university who are caught on video chanting this racist song. ♪ there'll never be a [ bleep ] ♪ ♪ never, never ♪ >> that video became public last night when it was e-mailed to both a newspaper and a black group on campus. an investigation is being launched into significant ma alpha epsilon.
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and they have until midnight to remove all of their belongings from the house. >> as far as i'm concerned, they won't be back, at least not while i'm president of the university. [ applause ] >> president of the university's hoping for more than just shutting down the fraternity. he says he hopes the students involved leave his university. >> some may decide to take themselves elsewhere. well, i hope they do. even before we finish the investigation. it will be just fine with me if they all have taken then selfmselves to other institutions. just take them out of here they don't belong here and i don't want them here. so i hope they do. i encourage them. i might even pay personal bus fare for them if they'd go somewhere else just go. >> joining me now, isaac hill president of the black student association at the university of oklahoma. isaac, how shocking was this to
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you down there at the university? >> well lawrence i have to say, unfortunately, it was not that shocking. for most of us that have grown up in southern america, which so many of the black students here have. we've always come in to some kind of situation where there was unfortunately a racial tension or a racial divide. so for most students and myself across campus, unfortunately, this video was not shocking. >> what would you recommend to your university president david boren on this? >> well i would first like to thank him for all of his swift action and his decisive words about how he feels about this but i would just recommend not only just reprimanding them but also taking time to educate them and let them know why this is not okay. i want them to have meetings with the black student associations meeting with the black community across campus so they can see us in a face to
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face situation, look us in the eye and apologize and tell us that that, us be able to tell them that that was not okay. >> isaac, you clearly identify the guy in the bow tie who's leading the singing there. what's been the reaction to him particularly on campus? >> there has been a couple of meetings made but i'm not aware of who he is. fortunately, i don't know too many members of this particular fraternity chapter. >> mark thompson you're just back from selma. you were there for the weekend with your son who's around the corner there somewhere. and to come back from that that amazing weekend, and to discover this, as the first piece of news in race relations in america today. >> well, thirst of all, and thanks as always for having me lawrence. i never dreamed i would find it especially considering my son
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and his cousins were in the van with me driving from montgomery to selma. we first got there and i was explaining to them the history of that very dangerous road and all the things that happened there. and all of the trees along that road and how over the century how many of those trees bore strange fruit. i was explaining that to those young people. i never dreamed i would get back here this evening, and i just came from the jackie robinson foundation where these students in institutions of higher learning with scholarships, and they're talking about going to these schools and seeing something like this happen in places of higher learning in this day and age. it is horrifying. a report just came out, the equal justice initiative. and it's hard to document and track all the lynchings that happened. but they have documented almost 4,000 between 1877 and 1950. it is completely unacceptable and irresponsible and down right racist for anybody to make light
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of that, to include it in any chant or to say anything like ha in this day and age. and lastly when we look at what's been happening with the police, which i dare say is really, we just saw in madison wisconsin, a modern-day form of lynching, far more sophisticated. maybe notes intoes nooses or trees. >> we were in selma where the attempt to keep african-americans out of civil society, away from voting was a direct response to the civil war, a direct response to the emancipation of the formerly enslaved, and the desire of the white citizens of the south to not get over slavery and to say even 100 years after the civil war, we will not allow the sons and the grandsons of former slaves and the granddaughters of former slaves to participate
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equally in society. this fraternity that has now been expelled from this university was founded in the 1860s, in the years after the civil war. i don't believe for ten seconds that those kids made that chant up. you're talking about an institution that was reacting probably in the same era when people were marching across the edmund pettus bridge from the imperative to eat with new a restaurant. this was the fact that the south couldn't get over. and not just the south, the places where former slaves migrated to like illinois. after dark get off our streets. when the sun goes down you better get out of here. because they couldn't get over slavery. the inability of an entire tract of our country not to get over slavery and to allow the formerly enslaved to become full citizens. that chant, what it says is you're not integrating our
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fraternity. that must have been part of the body of this fraternity. >> howard dean how do you think david boren's handling of it we knew him as a conservative democrat in the senate and the last conservative democrat from oklahoma. how do you think he's handling this? >> i just give him an a plus. really, we've seen a lot of bad stuff go on on college campuses and i've not seen a college president be this forthright this determined and this definitive, one might argue that he stepped over the line when he pre-judged the judicial process at the university of oklahoma but he absolutely, in some ways reached out to students of color and said the institution is with you. and that is very important for a president to do. i think he was remarkable in what he did. >> indeed. >> i agree. >> mark bring your son up here.
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i want to get another witness to selma. i need to hear i need to hear come over on my side. i'm going to let you use my microphone. >> he didn't know this was coming. >> totally unfair. >> totally embarrassing. >> introduce your son to america, mark. >> this is my 12 year old son, just fresh back from selma. >> tell us what it was like to be down there this weekend and see the president speak? >> it was really fun. i had a good time hearing the president speak. >> and what about that ride from montgomery with your father on that historic road what did it feel like? >> it felt good but it also felt kind of sad because like he explained to us people were lynchedage agend hung up on those trees. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. you're going too have to come back with your own microphone
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>> at least 59 people were injured today when an amtrak train collided with a tractor-trailer in halifax. an investigation is under way. joining me on the phone is former chairman of the national transportation safety board, jim hall. this is the third rail accident this year. we have the big metro north crash here in new york. california metro link train on february 24. what's going on here? this seems as though we've got a phenomenon going on here. >> caller: well, the ntsb has been investigating accidents like this lawrence for decades. and will continue to do so until the industry and the fra invest in rail crossing safety. >> and what do we have to do? it turns out, we have roughly 2,000 accidents at railroad crossings each year varying
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degrees of severity obviously. what do you have to do to make a railroad crossing safe? >> caller: well for a small fee at my house, i'm able to pay for an app in which i can lock my doors and have video of my own house. you know we have the technology. we just don't have the will to invest in safety. >> and a stat i'm looking at here says that last year we had 239 people who were killed at railroad crossings. it seems to me so jim, it is statistically more likely in this country for you to be killed at a railroad crossing than in a plane crash. >> that is true. and we have made far graetser advances in aviation safety and highway safety than we have in rail crossing safety. and that's a shame. >> all right. we're going to have to leave it there. thank you very much for joining us, jim hall really appreciate it. >> caller: glad to.
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when i post an instagram photo of me with my friends, you know, you know as taylor swift says haters are going to hate. >> that was congressman aaron schock being completely oblivious about his downton abbey office design that cost taxpayers $40,000. he has since paid for the cost out of perm funs. he posts to instagram of exotic travel photographs and selfies with pop stars who would november step foot in his congressional district in illinois. it was aaron schock's instagram account that allowed the associated press to track his spending images. they were able to connect the location of aaron schock in
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these photographs with flight records. they've linked them to flight records willed to his office and to his campaign. the associated press found that he billed taxpayers $24,000 for eight private plane flights in 2011 and 2012. the plane is owned, of course of course by one of his donors. so the paying the donor trick on the old plane, that gave aaron schock's reelection campaign that donor gave his reelection campaign more than $10,000, which of course he got back in the jet rental price. en the ap also found that his political action committee paid another donor $12,000 for private jet use and spent $24,000 on concerts festivals and events including, of course, a katy perry concert. on friday speaking only before local media in his district aaron schock offered this explanation of his spending habits. >> they've been a point of
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reflection not only for the change in my office but a point of reflection of things that need to change with me personally. i know when i take a trip and post photos online it can create the misimpression of being out of touch or an image not worthy of my constituents. and tonight we have more breaking news about aaron schock. >> politico reporting that the illinois republican misrepresented federal campaign finance documents. he claimed on forms that a $3,000 expenditure in november was for software but the company cited said it was actually the cost of an airplane ride. harry, it's your obligation to explain this guy, because you're his age, okay? >> whoa whoa whoa. >> his obliviousness is clearly an age-based thing. >> first of all, i'm younger than him. i don't know what the hell he's doing. this is the craziest thing. the only people who can defend
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this is perhaps downton abbey fans. but beyond that, i don't know what the heck he's doing. >> joy, i've always had this observation about politics which is defined in this case which is officeholders work within the ethics rules that were there when they arrived. >> right. >> so when you had guys who were there, arrived in the 1960s, by the time you got to 1980 and 1990, they were way out of control, because when they arrived there were no rules. this guy arrived into a congress filled with rules that say you're not supposed to do this kind of thing ann didn't read any of those. >> first i would like to say as a fan of the dowager countess you have to be really penny pinchers when it comes to the poor people because they just want to take take take and they want food and their electricity to work and they are
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just greedy and we have to restrict that spending. it is as you sten day shus. i guess the selfies fill his time. >> and there's horribly smelly thing of the contributor gives him $10,000. then he spends more than that with the contributor on renting the contributor's plane. >> in defense of the millennial generation which i have in my family and many of whom i teach at various universities this is not like his generation. most of them won't go to congress because they think it's an institution that doesn't work. and they're out working to make the world a better place. so i wouldn't want anybody to think aaron schock is a typical young person, a millennial in congress. >> at the same time, we're not saying it is typical behavior but the media, many of the main stream media are attempting to
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anoint as a potential president one marco rubio who displayed much the same kind of behavior when he was speaker of the house in florida. that went by with nary a mention as he continued to rise as the potential great republican republican. >> there's no chance that if he should get any traction that that's going to go by. he will never be president because he was speaker of the house in florida, and you don't get to be speaker of the house in florida, of many houses especially in florida without having bad stuff that you'd rather not have in the paper before the caucuses in iowa. >> aaron schock is one of the most moderate members of the house of representatives for republicans. so there's not going to be any defense. this is going to be a wonderful bipartisan bloodbath. most republican voters want nothing to do with washington. so you have a washington standoff, this is going to be wonderful television. >> i could talk about this all
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night just to keep these pictures going onscreen of the way this congressman does his job. but we have some breaking news that refers back to our previous segment about iran and the letter by 47 republicans. joe biden has issued a statement about that letter from the republican senators. rerefer re refers to it as it's beneath the dignity of an institution i revere, meaning the united states senate. he says this letter in the guise of a constitutional lesson ignores two centuries of precedent and threatens to undermine the ability of any future american president, whether democrat or republican to negotiate with other nations on behalf of the united states. and howard dean if the republicans had precedent for this letter we would have heard about it. >> that's what's so appalling. i was against the vietnam war.
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i was also horrified when jane fonda went to hanoi. you do not undercut your country. i'm just shocked. i would like to know hot seven republicans who refused to sign the letter. >> corker was one. we'll get that. joe biden goes on to say this the authors of this letter must know that the vast majority of our international commitments take effect without congressional approval and that will be the case should the united states russia and germany reach an understanding with iran. and that is true. that the vast majority of commitments that we make do not involve any kind of treaty. >> absolutely. i'm glad you read the latter part of that letter. this is not just the united states make a bilateral attempt with iran. this is a multi-national process. and they're undercutting the
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president. really just i suppose to embarrass and humiliate and lecture the president of the united states. so the lack of respect for february president obama is an ongoing theme, it has been since the day he was inaugurated. this takes to the level whether they understand their role as public servants. this is a multi-lateral -- >> i will go a step farther. do they understand they are public servants they are putting before the country. >> this is the reason that joe biden was picked to be vice president because he has such strong standing on the hill. can he make these kind of statements. this is a guy who knows what he's talking about. putting aside all the jokes and things lots of respect there. and when he says something it means something. >> i want to get to the latest presidential poll. we have a new poll out tonight. and it shows in an unusual kind of way it asks the question
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could support versus could never support. it's not exactly a straight preference, but rubio is up there on this list at 56% could support. walker's 53% could support. huckabee huckabee's 52% jeb bush is 49%. the interesting thing is the not support part. because rubio and walker have a pretty small could not support piece. whereas huckabee and bush have a large, 40 and 42%. >> the dyed in the wool a neocot. marco rubio has tried to represent the hawkish side. the upside is scott walker because there is such antipathy
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for unions. >> i do think there's some of that is that they don't know the candidates. i mean bush everybody knows bush so they can have strong opinions about them. they mostly don't know scott walker or even rubio. so polling numbers at this stage of the presidential campaign are incredibly hard to interpret. >> that's the most generous thing you've ever said about them. you usually say forget it ignore these idiotic polls. that's the most diplomatic way you've ever put it. >> and i'm not diplomatic. >> we're going to leave on your diplomatic high point right there. thank you all for joining me tonight. >> thank you. coming up next never before seen evidence in the case against the accused boston marathon bomber. re you deserve. at humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler.
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howard dean just asked the question which seven republican senators did not sign that letter to the iranen leadership. and we have that answer as we promised, it is senator jeff flake, thad cochran, lisa murkowski, corker alexander and dan coats. today in boston jurors in the trial of dzhokhar tsarnaev were shown videos of moments before the bombings and just after. >> jurors saw some critical evidence today in the form of surveillance video. the fbi says it shows dzhokhar and his brother on the marathon route, then it shows tsarnaev
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nypd the apple watch joins a line of products that we are incredibly proud of but we continue to push all of them forward. this is what everyone in apple is focussed on, pushing all of our products forward and creating a better future. >> san francisco today, apple announced that the new apple watch will be available on april 24. the watch will cost anywhere from $349 to over $10,000, depending on which model you buy. hbo also announced in san francisco today a new partnership with apple. hbo's chairman and ceo said this. >> we are thrilled to be here this morning to announce our stand-alone streaming service,
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hbo now. and we couldn't be prouder that apple is our exclusive partner at launch. [ applause ] >> joining me now from san francisco, what they were saying just now, hbo now. how is that different from hbo go? >> the big difference is that you don't need a cable subscription to use it. hbo has always been tied to your cable subscription, and they've always been good about letting you watch it anywhere but you've had to have cable. and with apple, they're getting into ways to not have to have this expensive service that people don't want and increasingly people don't want to pay for. so this is hbo just going straight to people. >> so every product, every item that the apple store sells has a watch in it has a clock in it. the phone has a clock in it.
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the computer has a clock in it. the tablet has a clock in it. so they've decided that while you're holding your phone in your hand like this with the time right there, you always need the time over here in the old-fashioned way like i do. >> when you put it that way, it sounds so obvious. >> thank you very much. >> but the thing is you've put it exactly right. and that was the big question that apple had to answer today. they came out in september and told us about how they made something beautiful and wonderful and that everyone was going to want it on their wrist. and all i've heard in the months since then is why? why does this exist, why do i want it? and what is this for? and apple started to answer that question. there are interesting things it can do. and developers are going to have tools to build really cool apps. but that was the beginning. here's apple saying here's another toe into this. and the real answer for what this is going to be for is going to take a lot longer to figure out. >> as i said at the beginning of
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this hour in 1899 it was explained when the term was coined conspicuous consumption. i don't know what else that watch is other than that. explain this to me. how does it get from being a $350 watch to a $10,000 watch? how does that happen? >> it's a really terrific question. so it all depends on materials, right? there are three different kinds. and the mainstream sort of watch is going to be either $550 or $650. but if you really want to go crazy, and apple has said they're going to make a limited number of these only in certain stores. and the thing i keep hearing is that this is very much geared towards markets like china where there is this growing market of conspicuous consumption. if you want rose gold and the most beautiful bands it's going to cost you a lot of money. and in a couple years it's going to cost you a lot of money again. i think there's going to be a
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market for some of these and for some of these, it's going to make apple a lot of money. >> my $44 time ex-tells me that we are officially out of "chris hayes" is up next. tonight on "all in" -- >> the end of these negotiations isn't an unintended consequence of congressional action. it is very much an intended consequence. >> republicans declare war on peace talks writing an open letter to the mullahs in iran to try and sink a nuclear deal. tonight the president is responding. >> i think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of congress wanting to make common cause with the hard-liners in iraq. >> meanwhile, in hillary land -- >> all of this is just the same cook maimny stuff that we go through -- >> why new polling shows america is on track to get the election it deserves. >> plus, a true crime bombshell from hbo. >> this was found inside this.

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