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a park service official, and she said this is a big dilemma with them. but rather than just an experience, a natural ex-perience experience, we'recrabtree thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. "chris hayes" is up next. tonight on "all in." the measure of success in government is how many people are no longer dependent on the government. >> first a big weekend, and now bigger news from scott walker as the billionaire kochs lay out their 2016 plans and rupert murdoch steps up his campaign to stop mitt romney. then, in the wake of the storm, who shut down the new york city subways and why didn't anyone tell the mayor. >> plus, the marriage equality fight gets ugly down south. alabama's first openly gay lawmaker threatens to out
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officials having extramarital affairs. she joins me live tonight. as the patriot protests get louder, there may be finally a personal of interest in deflate gate. >> sometimes you do things that are not fair so you can win. >> "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. we don't have any candidates who have formed yet, but all of a sudden it appears like we have a front-runner in the republican presidential race. scott walker just announced today, just today, he is launching a committee to help spread his political message welcome take with that what you will. an organization called our american revival is being headed up and it is the strongest signal yet of his intention for 2016. and it comes after he positively wowed an audience in iowa this
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weekend, emerging as a crowd favorite. among a large group of gop stars hosted by congressman steve king. also easing fearing he may be too mild mannered to win. he is channelling his baptist preacher father as he transfixed the crowd. >> there is a reason why in america we take a day off to celebrate the 4th of july and not the 15th of april. because in america, we value our independence from the government not our dependence on it. we need leaders in america who understand, who ultimately understand the measure of success in government is not how many people are dependent on the government, the measure of success in government is how many people are no longer dependent on the government. >> that speech earned him a standing occasion.
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and when he is up against a candidate that wants to make april 15th a national holiday, to replace july 4th well they're toast. a consensus has emerged the republican party may have found its man to beat in 2016. >> there are a number of standout moments, but i would say the biggest was scott walker. this was his iowa breakthrough. >> the folks that won yesterday, scott walker won the twitter primary. >> he is less well known, thought to be dull, but he was impressive. he is a good governor. >> scott walker did his bio. he says i won three times in four years. he didn't have the charisma of ted cruz, but i thought the audience was more -- >> he spoke to the crowd there, they were excited about his wisconsin record. the conservatives liked him, nothing he said will show up later and seem out of touch. >> not everyone i should say has been impressed by the governor.
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he took to the stage to the song "i'm shipping off to boston" from the dropkick murphys. they said please stop using our music in anyway, we literally hate you. robert, you were of course there in iowa, do you agree with that general impression that walker was kind of the winner of the weekend? or made the biggest gains in terms of how he was perceived? >> he was very impressive from the perspective of his rhetoric from his presentation. i spent time with walker and his father a baptist pastor that grew up partly in iowa. walker has the reputation of being pretty sing song. pastors, preachers know how to turn it on, and walker certainly did that. >> what were your other impressions of steve king? rightly so because of his views he got a lot of attention.
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what was your view of the beauty pageant of republican candidates looked like. >> it was also who wasn't there. jeb bush mitt romney are making their own moves right now. we're going to have a crowded republican field to cover, walker, ted cruz rand paul. he wasn't there. ben carson some of these other tea party favorites. it's going to be competitive to get that launch out of iowa that so many of them covet in order to compete long term and especially to get the money you need to compete against the likes of bush and romney. >> today there was news on the governor perry front, the indictment he got for basically denying funding to an office. it's unclear if it's a policy dispute or criminal prosecutor. a prosecutor says it's criminal. that indictment is going to proceed. scott walker decided to come to
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the aide of rick perry, at least on twitter. ted cruz, because this prosecution have an effect on governor perry? in terms of his standing in the race. >> maybe in a general election walker's had a john doe election hanging over him, governor christie has bridge gate. i saw perry on monday i was with him at a kosher deli in des moines, he was speaking with jewish leaders there, he's bringing the energy. he has charisma. whether voters really care at this point we'll have to see. >> do you think -- the last thing was the sarah palin speech there, that got roundly panned by the folks there, all sorts of interesting little reporting color of folks finally throwing in the towel on sarah palin. was that your sense as well? >> i was with her friday night, asked her about the presidency she's interested but she's not making any moves in that
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direction. watching palin's speech, you wonder what kind of role does she want to play in the republican party. it's clear that she wants to play some kind of role that's why she's teasing out a potential bid. no one really knows where she fits and conservatives seem to be becoming frustrated with her pitch and the way she goes after certain topics. >> thank you, robert costa. scott walker left iowa went to california to attend the koch's semiannual retreat in palm springs. they go way back. koch industries is one of the biggest contributors to walker's election campaign for governor. ex-he can ex-he can u executors have worked behind the scenes to encourage a union showdown. >> i'll talk if they want to yell at me for an hour i'm used
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to that. >> i have one in my office. i have a slugger with my name on it. >> there's been an investigation which is now stalled as to whether there was illegal coordination between the political groups including one funded by the kochs and governor walker's election campaign. having the kochs in your camp is a big deal because they're planning to spend close to $1 billion in the race. not quite a billion, $889 million to be precise, it's an unprecedented amount for a single donor network, way above the combined $657 million spent by the republican national committee and the parties in 2012. think about that for a second these two men are positioning themselves to effectively
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supersede the republican party in the next presidential election it is no wonder their conference in california drew a record number of attendees this year. they also drew some of the most talked about presidential candidates. not just scott walker but rand paul, and ted cruz. joining me now, a reporter for the new york times where he covers money and politics. what does it mean about what 2016 looks like post citizens united campaigns? >> you know it means this is the new normal it means we have institutionalized the presence of extreme wealth and politics on both sides of the aisle, certainly on the conservative side. the resources here are staggering. i mean that is really -- >> it's a lot of money. >> it's a lot of money. >> i remember getting the call i was like no that much? >> they plan things very
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methodically. it's going to be for state elections and so forth. >> this is the key point, though. this is something you've reported on very well. this isn't just writing a check, it's not a freelancing eccentric billionaire -- this is a methodically planned, organized, populated strategy that has an entire sort of interlocking set of institutional arrangements around it. >> it's fascinating, this is not quite a third party. the important difference is they aren't trying to subplant their republican party, but set it in a certain direction. they've been very successful. how often do you hear about gay marriage or social issues. except in terms of immigration. >> i think this is bad for american democracy, the post citizens united air remark i think in one way the increased scrutiny of the kind of billionaire primary and donor
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class is basically the last shred of accountability we can impose on a system that's lifted any kind of limits. >> yeah, i think so. i think the fact that you have -- we know that the koch brothers are planning to do this is one step. but that said you know there are 300 donors behind this. that's not just the koch brothers, and there are lots of different shell groups and front groups for corporations the koch brothers have really masters using the dark money loophole of the c-4s and c-6s, and we don't really know where the money is actually coming from. >> right, this is -- that's a good point, this is one number we don't know what other stuff is out there. >> i think most importantly here we can have transparency and accountability but this is about fundamentally tilting our economy in a certain direction, on the issues that are most important to most americans right now, they are very outside of the center. this is union busting, this is rabidly anti-tax
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anti-regulation, it's a real agenda that is an economic agenda that is very far from the center of where most americans are. >> do you think that we're going to see something like this on the democratic side? >> i don't. >> they are figures because of who they are. >> we're talking about the democracy alliance which is a set of donors that have organized together and have conferences, and they have raises over their nearly ten years they've been organizing together what the koch brothers can amass in one year. so the scale is very different. and i think fundamentally, this is the question that people are asking about the koch brothers their main goal is anti-regulation, it's very much about padding their own bottom line as a fossil fuel promoteing industry. >> they have an ideological
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fidelity to these views. >> whether or not it helps them -- >> they say that -- >> i would just say that there is no policy that can be enacted that will make them substantially less wealthy in their lifetime i don't think it's about making money for them, i honestly don't. >> they also had the greatest six years in history for koch industries from a wealth and profitability standpoint under president obama. >> of course there really is. >> they talk about health care law, regulations in general, they very rarely talk about climate change. if we did what we need to do on the climate. it would very much affect koch industries, i think it's important that we keep hilting what the ends are here which is unfortunately, the cost of our planet for just a few narrow interests. >> but answer that question you don't -- you said the scale on the democratic side is not sufficient, and you don't see any figures like this the fact is, we have billions -- we have billionaire democracy at this point, we just do a fact about american democracy.
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it was true before citizens united. but combine citizens united with the inequality we have the way we head into 2016 is this focus, i wish we could get them into a room for a reality show it would be no -- it would be a more honest coverage of the american election than what we're going to get. >> we are watching this part of the campaign. and if there's a democratic primary, there will be the same thing. for the next six months these guys will do one or two appearances for the public. the rest of it is donors donors donors every day. >> they're swimming among billionaires and they come up for air with the public. >> it's a money primary. >> i have to say there could be another way. we just did a report called the money chase, we looked at big donor spending and contributions in the 2014 midterm, and did something that's never been done. we looked at a few races where people who are viable candidates or massively outspent and said if the bill that's currently in the house right now.
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that would make a small donor match, public financing system more in place, and showed how much they would have been able to get because of their alliance on small donations, they would have been able to run competitive campaigns. >> there's another way, that's true. heather mcghee, thank you very much. more than two dozen potential candidates making noise about entering the race this thursday, very special, all in is breaking new ground with the first ever all in 2016 fantasy candidate draft. five political expert contestants will be here to draft their picks. set your dvrs, this thursday 8:00 p.m. right here it's going to be epic. a lot of important news to get to tonight. we also have this. >> chuck yy.
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a small drone crashing on the white house south lawn yesterday. apparently too small to be detected by the radar system. i say drone in quotes because this thing you're looking at is really more of an expensive toy helicopter. this is a drone. the kind of thing that's been reigning down death on terrorists and civilians and children for years. let's not confuse the two. that aside, the mistery of how it got there was solved, but it's not news guys. >> do you want to take it out for a spin? >> are you crazy, this is my dad's drone. >> do you have any idea how much fun we could have? we could spy on people. >> my dad said it's not for spying on people. >> it was an off duty employee. in an interview today president
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obama talked about it. >> i have asked the faa and a number of agencies to examine how are we managing this new technology. because the drone that landed in the white house you can buy at radio shack. >> he's right, these automated flying machines buzzing over our heads need to be regulated, but also, they have essentially no accountability. back after this. expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪
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opened most of the northeast leaving major cities in a standstill and me in a car is winding down. things are nowhere back to normal. more than 20 inches of snow fell in connecticut, massachusetts, new hampshire, new york maine and rhode island. some areas getting more than 30 inches as residents grappled with whiteout conditions and gale force winds. nantucket just south of cape cod, the entire island lost power, and winds up to 78 miles per hour with at least 11 people evacuated from their homes. officials cut power to homes 30 miles south of boston as flooding prompted overnight requests for evacuations. daily maximum snowfall events were set in providence and boston where the snow continues to fall. rapid transit remains closed.
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schools may be shut for the rest of the week. people found ways to get out, including this guy, who dubbed himself the boston getty on twitter. emergency medical personnel broke out their skis and snowshoes to get to work. plenty of people found ways to have fun in the snow including this kid in new jersey who got his sled pulled by a truck. the heavy snowfall made a whole bunch of dogs including this one very very happy, there were worse ways to spend time today than clicking around looking for videos of dogs enjoying the snow. >> chucky. >> hi, doggy. >> here in new york city
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official officials officials struck dire forecasts. some meteorologyists apologized publicly for the missed forecast. the subway was shut down overnight due to the snow. the decision has prompted a lot of second guessing. the president of mta said on monday there was no reason to shut down the underground portion of the subway systems because they are shielded from the snow. he was given only 15 minutes before announcing the shutdown. he defended his decision making today. >> the decision is going to come back on line much faster than it would have if the trains were exposed to the conditions. and they were shoveling out this morning. if you tally it up i don't know that this wasn't the more
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prudent course of action in any event. >> joining me now, city hall bureau chief for the new york daily news. let's put aside whether it was the right thing to do. are you kidding me to give the mayor of new york 15 minutes heads up you were going to shut down the subways? >> one of the things i think people -- even people who live here forever, the subway is a total state, he doesn't the have to talk to the mayor. >> no he doesn't have to he runs it. >> it's his decision. >> but, wouldn't you think it would be courteous to say, hey, bill, check it out, we're going to shut down the most vital means of transportation in the city that you govern. >> mayor de blasio agrees with you, he said he would have preferred to have a little more dialogue with the governor in the future he hopes that happens. >> how do you not read this as a total power move? it reads to me like -- i can't understand -- i understand people have to make difficult decisions, polly makers in the
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blizzard, huge predictions for snow that didn't pan out. you would imagine that these things had to be coordinated between the relevant authorities. >> they don't really. like it came from the governor he's in charge of the mta. the governor's defense, what they said in response to this this was a fast moving storm, they had no idea what was going to happen. they had given an update around noon, and said we're going to look at the weather at 4:00 and they did, and they made the decision, they called the mayor and they went public with it. >> one of the things we've seen people erring on the side of caution, josh had a good thought, shutting down new york subway is very expensive. this was a very expensive set of actions taken by both the governor and the mayor, with the thinking i think from them being, if we underprepare we're going to get destroyed politically, it's safer to overprepare. >> the thing is there used to be a time i think when you would never shut down the subway. they did it for hurricane irene,
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which was sort of a small hurricane -- >> which was like this blizzard. >> they did it for sandy, it was so well received sandy was damaging. i feel like that raised the bar now, that you can do it before it was seen as something you couldn't possibly do. >> do you think -- i know the mayor -- these ended up being big political tests for anyone who's in power. mayor de blasio has his fair share of enemies that would like to see him suffer. how do you think he came out of this? >> i think good. he had a snowstorm when he was early in office which he screwed up. >> including charge ss that he didn't plow the upper east side because there's rich people there? >> everyone's like yeah. >> it was 10 inches you know i mean, so -- i don't think anybody -- i don't think really the blow back no pun intended was that he did it -- he overhyped it deliberately, it
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walking side by side out of air force one. then things start to veer into less familiar territory. you can see michelle who did not have her head covered stepped back and led her husband lead the way toward an all male saudi delegation. according to the report this was not by accident. the first lady purposely stood next to but slightly behind the president to adhere to the saudi royal family's cultural disposition to women's second placeness. minutes later, michelle obama stood next to her husband while he shook the hands of dozens of men. the first lady waited for a gesture to be made for her to walk by. if the man initiated the handshake, she shook his hand and smiled if not, she smiled. the united states sent a delegation of over 20 people to
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honor the late king. a who's who of high ranking government officials that included john kerry, susan rice cia director john brennan, former secretary of state condoleezza rice nancy pelosi and john mccain to name a few. it was quite the gesture. it comes less than three weeks after cell phone video appeared to capture the public lashing of a saudi blogger for insulting islam. something that led to widespread criticism. the saudis postponed his second round of lashings on medical grounds. most are not so lucky. when asked if he was speaking to the new saudi king the president said the relationship between the two countries was about balance. what i found effective is to apply steady consistent pressure even as we're getting business done that needs to get done. and often times that makes some of our allies uncomfortable. it makes them frustrated.
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sometimes we have to balance our need to speak to them about human right's issues with immediate concerns that we have, in terms of countering terrorism or dealing with regional stability. >> the president didn't seem too eager to talk about the saudi's dismal human rights record. if you are, there could be a great opportunity for you to express yourself courtesy of the department of defense. yesterday they announced an essay competition to honor the saudi king. sponsored by the joint chiefs of staff themselves. it's to honor the memory of the king. if you would like to honor the memory of king abdullah in your own way, this could be your chance welcome back to showdown! i'm jerry rice here discussing the big race . my guest is stephanie branton. jerry, i'm going bunny. shocker. not really. you see, the hare's "thoracic limbs" allow for greater extension and elongated strides.
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ruling in favor of two same sex couples who filed lawsuits. marriage licenses are not being issued in alabama. the judge put her decision on hold for two weeks while the state reviews it. some alabama conseratives are voicing their opinions. that led patricia todd, also an openly gay state official to throw down the gauntlet. taking to facebook to write, i will not stand by and allow legislators to talk about family values when they have affairs, and i know many who are and have. i will call our effected officials who want to hide in the closet out. joining me now is the representative that wrote that, patricia todd. is this a bit of idol boasting on your part? is this an actual threat? are you going to do this? >> my purpose was to say be
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careful when you cast that stone of family values, you need to look at your own family values before you attack ours. >> wait a second let me make sure i understand this correctly. are you suggesting there are politicians, state legislators in alabama who might be violating their marriage vows? that is -- state legislators violating, that is very difficult for me to believe, i have to say. >> shocking. and what is interesting is alabama is the most conservative, most christian state in the country yet our divorce rate is fourth in the country. >> so what do you think is going to happen here? the broader issue is that this kind of rhetoric has served conservatives for a long time particularly in the south, in a state like alabama, a very conservative state. what do you see as the next step here? are the people who are expressing their displeasure with this ruling for the court
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going to keep the displeasure and swallow it, or what is going to happen? >> well remember this is alabama, we don't have a really good history when it comes to the federal courts telling us what to do. i like to say that missouri is the show me state and alabama is the make me state. they will have to get over it, but in the meantime we are hearing a lot of rhetoric from the conservative republicans and i just want to remind them they don't have the corner on family values that there are thousands of gay couples across the state, many raising children who have much stronger family values than they do. and it's an attempt to try to cool the rhetoric. if you want to talk to me about the merits of the issue, that is fine. but i'm not going to let you get away with a five-second sound bite where you condemn me and my community.
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>> there are 36 states that have allowed marriage equality. 14 states right now banning it. this issue is going before the court and will be settled we expect in some direction. the chief justice of the alabama state supreme court, which is in and of itself an amazing fact. because he was stripped of that title before because he refused to remove the ten commandments from his courthouse. today the destruction of the institution of marriage is upon us by federal courts using speech as pretext based on equal protection of the united states constitution. i guess my question is how big of a percentage of the voters of alabama does roy moore speak for when he says things like that? >> i would say about 10%. the only way he got effected was in alabama you can go into the booth and vote straight party. the republicans had many people went in and just pulled that r lever and he got elected.
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i have talked to many republicans who would not have voted for him. but he got elected due to that fact. >> state representative patricia todd. we will follow this if you want to make any news down there, let us know. >> i appreciate it. a big new piece of news in deflate gate. what was the patriots locker room attendant allegedly doing in the bathroom with two bags of balls for 90 seconds before the start of the game. stop it get your mind out of the gutter, we'll talk about that ahead. there should be a truck leaving now. i got it. now jump off the bridge. what? in 3...2...1... are you kidding me? go. right on time. right now, over 20,000 trains are running reliably. we call that predictable. thrillingly predictable.
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the vice president has been threatening to not pass a bill against iran. even though a bipartisan sanctions bill seemed all but certain to land on the president's desk before talks with iran wrap up. that is until today. senate democrats backed down saying they will not support
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what i see this heading towards is some poor equipment manager at the bottom of the totem pole is 100% taking the fall for this. >> absolutely. if i was an equipment manager for the patriots ien wot even be boiling eggs at this point. hopefully i don't have a mortgage, this is getting kicked down the train. until somebody's gone. >> last week we speculated that the deflate gate controversy was
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going to land at the feet of some happenless low level employee. this week jay glazer reported there's now a person of interest. the nfl has zeroed in on a locker room attendant with the patriots. according to one unnamed league source, the person carried two bags of balls into the bathroom. the 12 balls to be used by the patriots, the 12 balls to be used by the colts. the employee is shown in the bathroom for approximately 90 seconds. the question could he have deflated 11 of the 12 patriots footballs in a minute and a half? is that even possible. bill belichick suggested that the drop in pressure in his teams balls was probably due to rubbing process and atmospheric conditions. that was knocked down by wilson sporting goods who said that is bs. and bill nye the science guy says that didn't make any sense.
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that did not stop very conservative people rupert murdoch who said ridiculous charges against the patriots. a great team big winners always attract naysayers. and here's bill chrystal's tweet. a tough impressive winner being hounded by a bunch of wineny goodie two shoes. it appears this will not be decided before the super bowl. and richard sherman thinks he knows why. it has to do with a relationship between roger goodell and patriots owner robert craft. >> will they be punished? no, nos as long as they're still taking pictures at each other's homes.
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you talk about conflict of interest. >> here is the picture showing goodell at craft's house the night before the afc championship game. since that party was for team sponsors that helps the team and nfl grow revenues, that sherman benefitted from that too. gabriel sherman, no relation to richard points out, so large is craft's sway with gudel that one veteran likes to call him the assistant commissioner. one of the two shermans i mentioned will join me at this table next. [ female announcer ] knows her way around a miniskirt. can run in high heels. must be a supermodel, right? you don't know "aarp."
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bowl. what do you care? do you like, do you want, do you know anything? >> well i'm from boston so i'm a patriots fan. >> why are they so oily? >> because they want to win real bad. >> yeah. >> sometimes you do stuff that's not fair, so you can win. i have no problem with it i think it's hilarious. >> well, it is hilarious. >> why not, it's a stupid football game. just deflate the balls, poke a guy in the eye or whatever. it's football. >> louis c.k. the best take on this. joining me now is co-host of the sports talk show highly questionable. gabe this piece must have been in the works for much longer. >> i couldn't have planned it any better. i mean i worked on this for
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four months i kept hearing over and over again, in order to understand the nfl you have to understand the relationship between robert craft and roger goodell. >> one of the most powerful and lucrative brands in america. >> robert craft is one of roger goodell goodell's biggest champions. he makes 44 million$44 million per year. >> roger goodell does. >> robert craft is on the committee that decides that. he also decides the deal with the networks. roger goodell's inner circle is a select group of owners the number one owner is robert craft. >> how do you think the two of them are reacting to this entire -- >> i would love to be a fly on the equal.
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for the first time anyone can remember, they're on the opposite sides of an issue. craft does not want discipline in deflate gate scandal. goodell has to come out and do something to show he has control over his league. so he's at odds with his biggest ally. >> here is craft firing a warning shot toward roger goodell, about this statement. >> if the wells investigation is not able to definitively determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure in the footballs, i would expect and hope that the league would apologize to our entire team. and in particular, coach belichick and tom brady for what they have had to endure this past week. >> two observations first of all, the verb endure seems a bit much. second, robert kraft's hair game is tight.
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aside from that what do you think? >> i wish he would have used the word besmerched so we could have gone full on "godfather 2." he said if you don't have anything, you owe me an apology. it seems like this could have been fixed weeks ago with a phone call to the patriots saying hey, guys, knock it off. they feel like the league tried to set them up. then you wind up in a situation where you, robert craft, feel betrayed. rich people don't like that. >> here is the real problem that gets to something genuinely profound about the rule of law and rules generally which is like, do these rules mean anything? is it just relationships between people with amounts of power -- or is there some kind of -- not that i care that much either way. to be clear, i don't care. >> you're touching on the fundamental controversy of the
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goodell era. they make decisions that don't have any basis in consistency. look at spygate. he punished the patriots in 2007. he fined bill belichick the coach, they lost a draft pick. fast forward, suspend sean payton for a year, suspend a wrath of players. and then you have the ray rice scandal, where he suspends him for two games, there's an outpouring of public criticism, and he suspends him indefinitely. we don't have any standard of law under the goodell era. >> that is one interesting part is people say we're only here because it's the patriots. it's also because of the dwindling credibility of spygate. what happens with your dwindling credibility, it doesn't just hit you all at once. it's piece by piece and you look
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at and you're roger goodell and now you have to answer for footballs. >> today was media day. marshawn lynch famously does not like to talk to the press. he usually gives them the same answer over and over again. one espn reporter said he was threatened with a half million dollar fine if he didn't show up, so he showed up and here is how he did it. you take a listen. >> marshawn lynch, it's your show. take it away. >> i'm going to answer with the same answer so y'all can shoot if you please. i'm here so i won't be fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get fined. i'm just here to i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get
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fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. >> this was very polarizing. marshawn lynch, an ungrateful jerk or sort of amazing hero of labor resistance to management? >> it's probably neither. i find it insane that that's the most memorable thing of media day. he doesn't want to do it, he seems to be uncomfortable with doing it. but the people have such a problem with the fact that he is doing is this really seem to have a problem with the fact that no one can tell him what to do. that seems to me to be what the issue is. no one is building their stories around marshawn lynch at this point. if you're mad, why are you tracking him down? you know you're not getting this guy, you're mad because he won't break for you. >> media day is a reminder of the power and centrality of the nfl.
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>> it is by far the most entertainment brand in america. it is still consistently the biggest history from broadcast television. revenues are north of $10 billion. so really roger goodell, don't think of him as a football guy, think of him as a ceo of a massive corporation. >> and one of the most important and powerful corporations. nothing at this point can deliver 60 million viewers the way nfl football can. >> but that is his mistake >> because he looks like a ceo and not a football guy, when people care more about football than a ceo. that is all for "all in" this evening. >> thank you, chris. thank you for joining us. once upon a time, the george bush administration paid people to do positive stories about them. it was ten years ago this month that usa today broke the news that the u.s. education
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department under george w. bush had entered into a p.r. contract that included payments of almost a quarter million dollars to this guy to do positive stories in the news as if he were a journalist about the bush administration's education policy. his name was armstrong williams. he had hosted a tv show and radio show called the right side. he was a syndicated columnist at the time. when the news came out that armstrong williams was getting paid by the federal government to do positive stories about them, that was a big embarrassment for the bush administration, it also made armstrong williams very famous in a bad way. he lost all his fake journalistic gigs at the time. ten years down the

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