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important and powerful corporations. nothing at this point can deliver 60 million viewers the way nfl football can. >> but that is his mistake because he looks like a ceo and not a football guy when people care more about football than a ceo. that is all for "all in" this evening. thank you for joining us. once upon a time the george bush administration paid people to do positive stories about them. they entered a p.r. contract that included peoples of almost a quarter million dollars of this guy to do positive stories in the news as if he was a journalist. he was armstrong williams. he hosted a tv and radio show called "the right side."
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he was a columnist at the time. when the news came out he was being paid by the federal government, that was a really big embarrassment for the government. ten years down the road, armstrong williams is back. they created the hour long campaign video that purports to be art ben carson who will apparently run for president this year. and you know maybe armstrong williams is an incredibly talented story teller. the department of education thought so once bon a time. maybe there is a good reason to hire him to tell purportedly factual and adjourn isjournalistic stories about you.
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it is embarrassing right? to associate yourself with the government paying for good news coverage, but ben carson has done that and the lack of shame brings us to this news today from indiana. it was to be a big day for big press. mike pence, as i say a very ambitious guy that wants to have a national profile. the mike pence administration said today would be his big breakout day for getting a big, positive national news story. today they thought he was really going to make it on to the map. today is the day they were going to announce a deal about how obama care will be implemented in that state. they thought it would be a great news story for mike pence.
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he has been looking for one of those as he tries to establish a national profile. unfortunately for mike pence, all of the news that he wanted to make today was overshadowed by his own armstrong run. >> a reporter at the indy star got ahold of internal launch documents that mike pence was starting called just in as in indiana. he has been in the process of starting just in as the state of indiana news service. as described in the star it is a state-run. taxpayer funder news outlet that will make prewritten news stories available to media and sometimes break news about his
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administration. so that was the headline last night in the indianapolis star. that gave way to this cascade of headlines immediately there after. columnist, mike pence's horrible yiez. another, governor kill the pence news agency now. then governor pence, said to be clarifying state-run news plan. governor pence saying it has been one big misunderstanding. he was lamenting reports that this was said to be a news agency. he said it was meant to be a resource, not a news source. that is not what he was trying to launch according to the documents published by the star. these are the frequently asked questions about mike pence's knew state run news agency.
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>> does just in cater to the media or a general audience? both. we expect reporters to find the site helpful and it will be a news outlet in it's own right. the governor of indiana, mike pence, was launching a state-run news outlet like "russia today." but in the way of doing that the local press, the real local press in indiana caught him doing it and now governor mike pence is having to dial it back. he had to spend all day today fending off questions about this thing, dealing with the tide of negative press that he made for himself. so yes, indiana governor former
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congressman mike pence may want to be the republican candidate for president in 2016 and so far he is not setting himself up for that very well. in the real world of our politics right now, there is a case to be made that whether or not mike pence is a good candidate, if voters are attracted to him. the thing that keeps abasically anonymous, somewhat ham handed poll decision in circulation as potential top tier 2016 presidential candidate is nothing about whether or not he handles things well in the state of indiana. the reason that he keeps circulating is because he has two very very important friends. hi guys. for the past year you would be forgiven for thinking that mike pence is nor famous than he is. for the number of mentions that he gets right?
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the focus is always the same thing about his mentions. it pis not about his deal on medicare, or if he is trying to start health care. it is because the koch brothers love him. his staff and former staff is well placed in the koch activists and funders. sing his koch brothers advantage. how thankful she for the activists. mike pence, a koch favorite. winking at 2016 indiana mike pence courts koch brothers. american politics is at a time
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when it is being separated in into top tier politicians and nontop tier politicians. at one level it manages if you're terrible embarrassing, and do things that make people laugh out loud at you. that may matter less than whether or not you have the support of a couple very key funders who like you and have liked you for a long time. there has been a remarkable clarification about who is a contender in our politics right now and how that gets decided. before the big east coast snowstorm, right? we had two nearly simultaneous events that made it very clear. who is making a serious run, has a chance and who on the other side is just making noise. for the just making noise category, we had an excellent showcase in iowa this weekend, and what unexpectedly became
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clear in iowa is that none of the people who have previously run for president appear to be making a threatening run for it this year. the people who have run before are all the worst, apparently at running again. i did not expect this until i saw some of the speeches. the speeches were really weird and at times really, really inexplicably bad. it's been said i'm sure you heard it. there is two things you should never see. you should never see a law or a sausage made. i have seen both. and i still eat sausage. but i can attest to the fact that neither are very pretty. and in the case of a sausage, you and i will get this in a way that no one else in america does. if you're going to have sausage, you have to kill some pigs. there is a lot of people in
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america that was sausage and they don't want to kill any pigs. we need to do some pig killing to get to the sausage. >> at this point in the speech we're like what are we talking about here? are we talking about legislation? "the daily show" lost it's mind over this clip and for good reason. mike huckabee is someone worried about in the previous years. former alaska governor and vice presidential nominee told politico that she was seriously considering running. >> racism sexism whatever it is really observing how that
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works, that the left employs, disgusting charges from the left that reverse them. you know it is play who point a finger, they have triple that amount of fingers pointing right back at them -- >> if you point forward, there are three fingers pointing back at you, but you know what that leaves unexplained -- >> even with all of the finger pointing and the angry fist shaking, the excitement from people like rick perry, none of this in terms of people who have run before none of this feels like people who will make a serious run for president. look at rick perry. on paper, he still seems like the best one for what he has going for him. then you see him giving these speeches and it's like no -- no it's not going to be him. someone give him a bottle of
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syrup to hug. in texas, there was another round of headlines about his criminal and felony corruption charges. he was charged with two felony counts of corruption. the charges against him, this case in which he has been indictmented. there is a mug shot and everything this will churn on for months yet. it will go on for a long time into the presidential campaign period. and so rick perry, no sarah palin? no. mike huckabee? no. it appears that on the republican side, none of the people who have been contenders before really seem like they're going to be contenders this time around. meanwhile, at the same time that iowa was showcasing who will not be in contention, at the same time in palm springs this weekend, the koch brothers donor
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network were highlighting nonretread candidates who have not run before but who they are taking very seriously this time around. mike pence, could not be there apparently this weekend, but they made sure his name circulated. they allowed a webstream of a candidate forum from this donor event. it was three republican senator who is have not previously run for president but who are plainly running this time marco rubio, ted cruz rand paul. while the noise and spectacle in iowa got the bulk of attention because it was funny, i think, the koch brother's network overshadowed the iowa sircircus. also by announcing the coke brothers donor network spending goals for 2016. just for perspective, the $889
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million they say they will raise and spend on the republican effort to take the white house in 2016. that is more than twice what the republican party itself raised and spent on it's effort to take the white house last time around in 2012. more than double. in any rational universe there is no way that somebody like mike pence and his state run news agency would be taken seriously as a candidate. there is no reason to expect a guy like that would or beganically bubble to the top. in republican politics right now it's not a rational universe. it's these guys universe. not the party and not anyone else. and that explains almost more than anything who gets taken seriously and who is in a sea floundering. what does that say to us all,
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overall, about our national decision making process, who we get to choose from for our national leaders. we have rick santorum's chief strategist with us. >> actually you haven't had me on forever and i miss these little chats. especially after watching that 12 minutes, certainly this should be fun. >> i miss you too, and i feel like i should ask if you're going to work with rick santorum if he runs again? >> i will say this. i'm loyal if nothing else. i have been on all of his campaigns since 1990 when he ran for the house of representatives and won. if he chooses to move forward, it's highly likely that's where i will end up. i'm not under contract with
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anybody, and just like arm strong williams if you want to offer me a quarter million dollars, i'd like to say good things about you, rachel. >> say you have the option of jumping in to support a candidate and santorum is not going to run, how do the koch brothers affect your decision making process about who is viable and who is not? >> i mean personally that would not affect me at all. i mean if you're going to do a presidential race you have to understand that even for a consultant it's a great expense to do that. you're giving up other races, time, family with everything else. you better really like that candidate. then you look at how much authority you will have in that campaign. i will honestly say this. it is easy to make mockery of the candidates by taking snippets of what they say. the majority of them are a pretty strong team and if you
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look at what they were trying to accomplish on saturday each one came with a different goal and agenda and in most cases they accomplish that. >> as republicans are trying to figure out the size of their field, and who counts as a top tier candidate, do you watch for applause lines? do you look for the high dollar donor events. what is -- who are the relevant decision makers at this point as we try to sort down from 20 candidates. >> rick santorum ended up winning the iowa straw poll which we all know. he spent less ontizing advertising than any of the other candidates. he had his super pac spend less than any other super pac. people say why is iowa first, because they take it incredibly serious. they kick the tires, they take
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it for test drives they look under the hood and they drive it again. you will not come in and spend a lot of money and buy iowa, you have to earn iowa. here is who will be the nominee, and i'm going to buy that nomination. that's an affront to people in iowa and it's not going to work. >> in terms of the big donors and the party, when it gets to the point of a general election, what will it mean if the party is outspent 2 to 1. >> yeah i think we all agree on both sides, it is not a particularly good thing. i can tell you from running campaigns it's difficult. we cannot always control the agenda or the message. but presidential races are unlike anything else. in a senator race a governor's race a outside group can dump a lot of money and make a big difference.
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there is so much press coverage and people get to know the candidates so personally generally that outside money has less of an impact. >> john brabender, i appreciate you being about to talk with me about this. i can never get republicans to come on the show but you're always sweet and a treat to be here. tell rick santorum i said hi. more to come tonight, including justice being served a half century late plus some science that involves the third floor men's room outside this studio.
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the company is trying to work with the federal government to find out what went wrong there, what caused this. the local fire chief credits the weather. that said there was no snow advantage for the last natural gas pipeline explosion. that was in mississippi, two weeks just before the yellow stone river spill. it created a plume of smoke so big it was picked up on a weather radar, as if it was weather. maybe this is just how pipelines celebrate january, but all over the country, pipelines new and old are popping like roman candles. we have had five this month so far and the month is not over. so far the only evident national response to this is senate republicans moving to jam through approval of the keystone pipeline. while the senate grinds on with
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it is that time of year. kids will receive presidents for the holidays. they will find an unmanned aircraft. don't fly near airports or any manned airport. do take a lesson before you fly.
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don't fly near people or stadiums. do fly for fun. the faa only wants you flying drones for fun. also they have to be small, fly them away from people airplanes, or stadiums. why do you take the lessons? unless you get special authorization, it is the law that you can only fly drones for fun, for recreational purposes and if you're into that sort of thing, recreational drones are easy to get. this is the phantom aerial quad cop copter drone. you can attach a go pro camera if you want. it can hand m aa minor payload. that is apparently the same drone that a guy in washington
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dc was flying around at 3:00 a.m. yesterday morning before he flew that drone over the fence and on to the grounds of the white house. a secret service agent says he heard and spotted the drone overhead and reportly it passed over the white house fence and whacked into a tree before crashing on to the ground and landing on the southeast lawn of the white house. it was on temporary lock down at the white house until they determined the drone was not a threat. they got a call from a man who apparently coincidentally randomly works for the geospatial intelligence agency. he says it was him that flew the drone into the white house. it was just a mistake. he was messing around with his
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friend's drone and he lost control of it near the white house grounds. he also apparently mentioned to the secret service that he was hammered when it happened. oops. so far the man has not been charged with anything. the secret service appears to believe him that it was an innocent 3:00 a.m. drunken screw up. what if it had not been. this is the latest in a series of more or less security breaches at the grounds of the white house. we only just recently learned of a very serious incident in 2010 when a gunman fired a semiautomatic gun out of the car and the bullets struck the upstairs windows of the white house. that is after a white house housekeeper found broken glass on the home of the first family's resident. in september, a man was able to
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step on to an elevator with president obama. he was not cleared to be there. he had a loaded gun on him at the time while he was riding in the elevator with the president. that same month, a man wielding a knife ran across the lawn and made it into the east room birdie he was tackled by a secret service agent. since all of those have been brought to light, the secret service chief has resigned. the top executives have been fired. the secret was so and white house security have been reviewed bay top level government panel. now we have the drunken drone thing. which by all accounts was a relatively harmless accident. what if it had been carrying a payload of some time what if it was carrying explosives? the white house has antiaircraft
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missiles. the white house is protected by radar that monitors the air space around the white house. but the drone is very little. is the white house protected from small, commercially available drones. at some point, it will be someone trying to do some harm. joining us now is the washington post national reporter carol lennick. >> you wrote today this is a problem, the prospect of a drone posing a threat to the white house. this is something that has gotten quite a lot of attention in the government recently. they have been studying how to deal with this as a potential threat? >> inyes, on thursday that panel of experts that you mentioned were having a private briefing a
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lawmakers just a few days before this event and they were asked are there any other things that have serious risks to the white house security, and drones was one of their top three suggestions. we're not describing the others but the drone, it got across the white house lawn it crashed, it lead to a series of secret service officers running around with flashlights. when the suspect's friends woke him up and he heard about the news he called them in. >> some drunk guy plays a drone, crashes it loses it passes out, wakes up and checks twitter. doe we know if he is getting in
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trouble for this? >> well, it sounds like his intelligence -- the agency is concerned about, the agency that does the mapping for very serious covert operations for agencies. they're the people who figured out the mapping for osama bin laden's secret hideout, and if this person was -- a drone and lost it somewhere over the white house property they'll have a lot of hard questions for him. right now there is no action that has been taken. we'll see what happens there. you raised the really important question rachel that is what if. is there a camera on this drone? a lot of people in the
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counterterrorism field is concerned about people learning the vulnerabilityies of the president and white house through surveillance. it could have been weaponized. it could have something harmful on it. it could have had a small payload of explosives or a camera that no one noticed in the middle of the night. if it had not crashed, would it have been found and it's owner found? >> carol loening. thank you for your time tonight. a we're story, thank you for downing us i appreciate it. >> you bet, rachel. >> coming up science. an unfortunate mens room on the third floor of this building.
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>> i'm willing to bet that you know this man. congressman john lewis is admired and acknowledged nationwide across the board for his courage and for what he sacrificed on before of this
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country. he was one of the original freedom riders. they were brave enough to travel around the country and test and break the segregation laws of the jim crow south. one stop was rock hill south carolina when john lewis and the other freedom riders stepped off of their bus, they were physically attacked. white people in rock hill set upon them and beat them. that happened in may 1961. rock hill has recently let it be known they're sorry that happened. in the last few years, they invited john louis back to the city where he was beaten in 1961. one of the white men that went down to beat them came forward and apologized. john lewis accepted that apologized. the mayor also apologized for
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what happened to him is there. they gave him a key to the city he accepted that apology and the key to the city. they were trying to make good on what happened there a half century ago. they're trying to make it right. a few months before they pulled in a group of friends from friendship junior college, decided they would break the segregation laws in rock hill in their own brave way. they decided to try to order lunch at a lunch counter downtown in rock hill. once they sat down they were pounced on and dragged away and arrested for sitting at a lunch counter while black. they became known as the friendship nine after the school they went to friendship college. the surviveing members of that
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grould told mark potter what happened that day. >> i remember being grabbed by my belt. >> the part that got me is when they put me in the cell and closed that door and that clang, you can still hear that clang when that closed that jail. >> by the time of their arrest in 1961 enough people were getting arrested in enough places over the south it was becoming a financial issue, whether the movement could afford to keep springing everyone out of jail. the friendship nine decided they would do it again. they refused to give their money to a justice system treating them that way. if they were thrown in jail they would stay in jail and wait out the sentence jail no bail. instead of paying bail to get out, they took 30 days on the county chain gang. they were arrested for a
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nonviolent peaceful sit in and they did 30 dras of hard labor. that became the strategy of arrested civil rights protesters all over the country. that meant not paying money to police forces that abused protesters and it meant embarrassment and inconvenience for the local authorities for holding and holing all these peaceful protesters who refused to be bailed out. they changed the movement, they changed the country. tomorrow rock hill south carolina will gather the surviving members of the friendship nine, and a judge will throw out their charges 50 years after the fact. they can't take away the time they spent on the chain gang but they can expunge their convictions and that's going to happen tomorrow. the prosecutor saying, what
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multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture everyday. mystery, science and mystery. unless you've been living under a rock you're away of a controversy surrounding the new england patriots' football team. they're set to face stateattle in the super bowl this sunday. expected to be the most watched event in the history of television. but there's the question whether or not the patriots cheated in the last game whether they purposely underinflated balls
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they used to get them into the super bowl. there's a case to be made they're easier to throw, catch and run with. so did the patriots intentionallyintention al li ally deflate footballs to win the game? the answer so far is don't know. the nfl has been investigating the allegation since that last game. they've confirmed publicly a number of the footballs used by the patriots during the first half of the game were in fact under inflated. but the patriots denied any wrongdoing. the coach says he believes they followed all the rules. the quarterback says he has no knowledge of anything taking place. the owner said his team did nothing wrong. he looks forward to an apology when this is disproved. but in the meantime, mystery, what happened? what we think we know so far has come from anonymous leaks, from people reportedly close to the
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investigation. first, leak sources told espn last week that 11 of the 12 patriots' footballs were under inflated. 11 of the 12 footballs. the next big leak came yesterday when again, anonymous sources told fox sorts the nfl zeroed in on a patriots locker room attendant who took them from the referee's locker room to "another room at the stadium before the start of the game." so that goes to opportunity, right? 11 of 12 footballs were under inflated sometime after the referees saw them. the implication is that a patriots' locker room staffer took the approved footballs that had been checked by the referees, took them to another room and did something. again, these are anonymous sources. nbc news has not confirmed this. but the next tantalizing leak
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came when it was reported that this locker room personnel took the balls to a bathroom. that the patriots turned over surveillance footage showing an employee taking two big bags of footballs going into a bathroom. that employee reportedly spent approximately 90 seconds in the bathroom with the footballs, and that's now part of the mystery. is that the point? is that the place where the alleged deflating of the footballs took place, in the bathroom, over the course of 90 seconds? could a person even deflate 11 footballs in the span of 90 seconds inside the cramped space of a single seater bathroom, is that humanly possible? i think we're about to find out. hello. this is the bathroom that's right outside the studio. hi, will. that's our digital producer.
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will you've got the footballs. i can't hear you, but i can see you. >> yes, we have a pump with a gauge. >> so you're in this bathroom with 12 footballs and the pump. you're going to test this theory where a person could deflate two pounds out of 11 footballs in 90 seconds. ready to do this? >> ready. >> i'm supposed to put on this jersey, but i can't figure out where the opening is, so just imagine. are you ready? on your mark get set -- [ whistle ] according to the sports reporting, the patriots 'em ployee was inside a bathroom that contained one toilet and one sink. the bathroom door was able to be
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locked from the inside. but what actually happened inside that bathroom is part of the mystery. if the alleged plating did take place, did he take out each one and deflate each one and place it back in the bag? did he stick the pump inside the bag and deflate while still in the bag. would one method be faster than the other? the other thing is there are alternate theories. if it didn't go down like you're seeing right now, one guy deflating 11 footballs, was there another way? maybe there was a mystery bag of already deflated footballs that was stashed inside the bathroom so the ball boy just went in and swapped the approved footballs with the underinflated ones that had been hidden in there. or maybe there was more people stashed inside the bathroom when the ball boy went in. maybe it isn't one guy deflating 11 footballs. maybe there were ten people
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inside already, and each person just had to deflate one football. plenty of time for that. who knows? but seven seconds left this is one ball boy inside the bathroom deflating each ball one by one. time's up. how many did you get through, will? eight. >> eight of them. >> and you were going pretty fast. that said, you're not a professional. >> i know. >> thank you, will. there you go. fake science. patriots are innocent because i live in massachusetts. that does it for us tonight. see you again tomorrow. "the last word" with lawrence is now. >> now i've seen everything rachel. "the rachel maddow show" playing with balls in men's bathrooms. i've seen everything. i need a recovery minute here.


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