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score of 38-7. somebody with that kind of detail, there's no way in the world he did not know what happened here. >> all right. well, the owner has come out and said emphatically he thinks they're not lying. we shall see. sage rosenfels, and terrence moore, great to have you gentlemen with us tonight. that's "the ed show." that's it. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton begins today. good evening, ref. good evening, ed, and happy birthday birthday. >> always good to pass off to a junge imagine. \s. we are going to keep an eye on that big winter storm that's dumping snow across new england. live pictures of portland maine. it's certainly intense up there, but the brunt of the storm skipped other big cities. some people are talking about how the forecasters got it wrong, or whether the governors
en masse had the right respond. we'll have all that coming up. we start with tonight's lead. the obama comeback. the president's job approval rating is now back up for 50%. just shy of his winning percentage from his reelection. it comes just days after obama reenergized democrats with his progressive agenda in the state of the union. gop leaders don't know what to say about it. so they've come up with an unbelievable talking point. >> the president's prescriptions have actually made things worse. whether it's obama care, whether it's the rules and regulation out of this administration. >> things are getting better but the point is who is
benefiting from this? the so-called 1% that the president is always talking about have done quite well. >> so now republicans want us to believe they care about inequality is it they're blaming the president for it? really 1234 it's laughable. bloomberg politics reported -- perfectly said the official unemployment -- it's been massaged it's been document doctored? doctored? all these millions of jobs created in the obama economy are just imaginary? they don't exist? gop leaders may be in denial about it but the economy has come back and so has the president. joining me now are democratic
strategists angela rye, and dana milbank from "the washington post." thank you both for being here. >> he reverend. >> thank you, rev. >> dana when did gop leaders start caring about income inequality? was it before they blocked the minimum wage hike? or after they opposed raising taxes on the rich? which one was it? >> this is heartwarming to see mitch mcconnell standing up for the little guy after all this time. i suspect it happened just after the economy started picking up. notice his first line said it started getting better last year because voters knew about republicans were about to take over. he realized that's not flying, so he moves on to something else. i suspect this won't fly my more than romney's 47% did. >> speaker boehner was asked
about the republicans starting this new congress with bills attacking immigrants and abortion rights. here's what he said. >> well listen we wanted to get off to a fast start this year and as a result taking bills that have passed in the past, and put other bills together, in spite of the fact that the committees in many cases have not had their organizational meetings, so yeah there have been a couple stumbles, all in our effort to show the american people that we're here to listen to their priorities. >> a couple of stumbles. that might be an understatement. >> the understatement of 2015. i know it's very early, but the reality of this is these are not a couple stumbles they're epic fails. they try to do pass an abortion bill on the anniversary of roe v wade this is the epitome of a tone-deaf leadership in congress.
you snow, the republicans have demonstrated time and time again they don't understand what the priorities are. they said the election if it was a reprimand on the president or on a democratically-led senate they haven't even realized voters want them to work with the administration to move legislation and policy forward that makes sense for this country, and obviously that's not what they're doing. >> dana you covered the couple of stumbles very closely in washington. i mean is that all this is is a couple of stumbles? >> this is the sort of stumble where you slip on a banana peel and slide down the whole banquet table and crash head first into the wedding cake. that's the kind of stumble this has been. just this week the house republicans had to pull their own border security bill because conservatives objected to it. last week they had to pull the abortion bill because women in their conference objected to it. the keystone thing has bottled up in the senate because mitch
mcconnell hasn't foed through with his over to have this open amendment process. everything else has been tied up as well whether it's trade or how to respond to homeland security and immigration, so you know they've created a lot of these problems for themselves. i think what they're finding now is that governing, runnings congress looked easier than actually in practice. >> los angeles, today we learned more than 9.5 million people have signed up for the health insurance under the affordable care act for 2015. estimates say the law will cost 20% less than predicted. and out in the states indiana's gop governor now says he's going to expand medicaid until obamacare, despite this house republicans will vote again to repeal obamacare next week. i mean how many times can they
try to attack a law that's helping millions of people? >> and how many times do we have to ask them for a solution? what is their solution? the president has said himself that it probably does need some tweaks, we probably could work together to enhance the law, but repealing it is a nonstarter. even if this repeal does pass the house and a more conflicted senate, as you know going into '16, a lot of the senate gops that are in blue states are vulnerable. they cannot afford to vote on a repeal of obamacare. guess what happens when it gets to the president's desk? he told them there's no fry, he will veto this. they might as well start working together and should have used the retreat time to do this to come up with a plan toens hans the law, not repeal it. >> the headlines say, quote -- boehner's preparing to sue obama against over immigration. i mean, really?
another lawsuit? why this strategy again, dana? >> well you know it's part of the robin hood strategy of looking out for the little guy. if they hire more lawyers, that will venchsually trickle down to everybody else. you know they had planned this strategy a long time ago, then realized maybe it's not a great idea to do it right around the election time. it doesn't look so good. so i think they just had to get right with the conservatives who demanded this action. obviously they don't expect anything to come of this. >> angela though isn't this really kind of a strategy that could back disable fire bringing up lace again that they floated out there and it didn't go anywhere last time? >> certainly, rev, we saw with the health care lawsuit that no lawyer even wanted to take this on. lawyers are afraid of being sanctioned for frivolous lawsuits. that's what can you run into with this potential immigration action. instead of suing the president
for what you would consider executive overreach, which we know he did not, because several other presidents before him brought forth executive actions to protect the country's immigrants. instead of doing that they should also again try to legislate. that is what they're there to do. many are not barred and acting accordingly. they don't know how to go forward. >> i have to raise this point, todayena. you just wrote about the president and the economy in "the washington post," and you wrote, quote -- if the economy continues on its current trajectory, as most expect he'll leave office a popular president and lead the 2016 democratic nominee with a relatively easy past to victory. that's a pretty both prediction. i think hess's on his way that puts him in a category with
ronald reagan. >> i'll leave it there. aung lay rye, dana milbank, thank you for your time. coming up developing news tonight. a man flying drone that landed on the lawn of the white house was reportedly drinking. what president obama is saying about this new threat and how will the secret service secure the air? plus confession"american sniper" is triggering a national conversation. and the patriots' football investigation. why a bathroom break is being looked at. please stay with us.
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you're looking at live pictures of portland maine, tonight where residents are still fighting the blizzard of 2015. wind in some new england towns reached over 70 miles per hour. some areas had more than 2 1/2 feet of snow. utilities said more than 30,000 massachusetts residents or customers had lost power. the storm left new york city and new jersey relatively unscathed, but farther north, the snow isn't expected to let up until later tonight. msnbc's meteorologist dominica davis is here in the studio.
dominica first, what's happening with the storm right now? >> well the storm is still going over new england, eastern part of massachusetts, rhode island all the way up into maine. we have very impressive snow totals so far, and we're not done. so already feet of snow are coming down in framingham mass 32 inches boston mass 36 which would put it at the top five of all-time snowstorms. connecticut has been hit hard looking at 26 inches. this is still going. we still have blizzard warnings from providence that go up to maine. these will expire through providence and boston by about 10:00. tomorrow morning is when we will see the blizzard warning expire for bangor. we still have several hours to go of snow bands coming through and drifting and blowing snow and possible whiteout conditions. we've been seeing the worst conditions along cape cod.
we're still seeing heavy bands coming in and pushing in through providence and new bedford area and the eastern part of massachusetts. that's where some of the heaviest snow bands had been earlier this evening. this will all start to wind down overnight. it will turn to light snow showers and really shuts off by the time we're looking at the morning commute tomorrow. so what happened with the forecast for areas near new york? why was it so off? >> well you know the storm track took a different track. it went a bit to the east. we thought the storm was going to hug closer to the coast. what happened is that it just passed 50 to 75 miles per hour just east of that. what happened was the moisture couldn't make it far west enough. so that's why new york and parts of coastal new jersey were spared. they still got a decent amount of snow. in new york we picked up 8 inches of snow but it wasn't a
blockbuster snow like we're seeing through new england. >> dominica, thank you for helping to make that clear tonight. as i mentioned the storm avoided large parts of new york and new jersey but many politicians say better safe than sorry. >> would you rather be ahead of the action or behind? would you rather be prepared or unprepared? would you rather by safe or unsafe? >> i would much rather by in a situation where we say we got lucky than saying we didn't get lucky and somebody died. >> in situations like this you could be a monday morning quarterback on something like the weather. >> some leaders are taking heat over over-preparing, but if they hadn't done enough they would have gotten burned for that too. let's bring in former ohio governor ted strickland currently president of the centering for american progress action fund. thanks for being here. >> it's going to be with you,
reverend. >> governor you served during some big storms. what's your take on how this all played out. >> we all to be prepared and we ought to put public safety first and foremost. i think that's what the governor and the mayor did in new york. you know mother nature is unpredict ac reverend al. we have technology we as leaders, governors and mayors we try to listen to the best information available to us and then respond accordingedly. so i think that's what the mayor and the governor did. i'm very sympathetic to the fact that they're getting criticized now for doing what they felt was in the best interests of the citizens of their city and their state. >> you know republican governor chris christie of new jersey also took a lot of precaution for the storm, but he had a slightly different response when asked if it was overkill. listen to this. >> there are going to be a lot
of critics say that perhaps there was too much done for this storm. what would your response be to that? >> well my response would be we were listening to all of you. listen, you all were on tv practically 24 hours talking about this based on what you were being told and we were acting based on what we were being told. >> i mean what's your reaction to the christie response? >> well i think, you know reverend al, when i was the governor of the state of ohio i dealt with tornadoes, floods snowstorms. you try to be prepared and you try to do everything you can to make sure your citizens are safe. sometimes you may overreact, but that's certainly better than underreacting and putting people's lives at risk. so you know the meteorologists, the weather forecasters did the best they could. the storm veered to the east a little more than they expected it to and so new york did not get dumped with as much snow as
they expected. but it could have gone the other way. what if they had not prepared? and what if the snowstorm had occurred, then they would be criticized for not doing enough? it's a difficult place to be in when you're responsible for the safety of people. i think they did the best they could with the information they had. >> well it's called governing, and you have to make hard decisions. >> you do. >> let's not forget they are being pounded up in new england. our hearts and prayers are with those citizens. >> absolutely. >> former governor ted strickland, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. still ahead, why the drone crashed near the white house and what the secret service wants to do about it? also should a soldier held captive by the taliban be charged for deserting his post? and the movie that's breaking box office records and
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we have developing news tonight on the unmanned drone that crashed on the white house grounds early monday morning. the man operating the drone told investigators he had been drinking before the incident. the a.p. reports that the man works for a u.s. intelligence agency which says his work has nothing to do with drones. "the washington post" reports -- the episode came just four days after lawmakers examining white house security had been warned by a panel of experts that the secret service's inability to identify and disability drones remained one of the leading vulnerabilities at the complex.
president obama talked about drones earlier today. >> i've actually asked the f.a.a. and a number of agencies to examine how are we managing this new technology? because the drone that landed on the white house you can buy at radio shack, but we don't have any regulatory structure at all for it. now there's talk of installing some kind of laser protection or antidrone system at the white house. ealonga cummings said quote -- just like our friends at israel feel comfortable with the iron dome i want the people in the white house to feel comfortable, too. i want the people who are trying to do us harm to know they cannot penetrate that sky over the white house. with the secret service under more scrutiny than ever how will it balance these new threats with preserving access to the people's house? we'll keep following this story.
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on all the possibilities of today. and stay ready for everything that is still to come. now to developing 2016 news and a right-wing spending spree on a scale never before seen. today we're learning the political network overseen by the conservative billionaire koch brothers will have a budget of $889 million. "new york times" calls it quote, an unparalleled effort by coordinated outside groups to shape a presidential election. it's a stunning amount of money. today one potential recipient made news a political ally of the kochs, wisconsin governor scott walker officially
launching a political committee. yet despite the big money, conservatives are still searching for a winning candidate. walker was just one of a host of gop hopefuls in iowa this weekend. notably no jeb bush and no mitt romney, but sarah palin was there still grabbing headlines with a speech even some on the right say was incoherent. >> it must change. things must change for this cover -- our government. look at it. it isn't too big to fail. it's too big to succeed. it's too big to succeed, so we can afford no retreads or nothing will change. with the same people and same policies that got us into the status quo? and that stands for the middle-class, everyday americans
are getting taken for a ride. that's status quo. gop leaders, by the way, you know, the man, can only ride you when your back is bent. so strengthen it. then the man can't ride you and american won't be taken for a ride because so much is at stake. we can't afford politics playing games like nothing more is at stake than maybe the next standing of theirs in the next election. right. joining me now are jason johnson and margie o'meara. >> good evening, rev. >> first, nearly $900 million from the koch brothers? i should mention we contacted them for comment, but have yet to matter from them. we have not heard from them. what does it buy you? will it work in 2016? >> it pretty much buys the election. here's why this is important,
rev. if you look at the 2012 presidential election year all 33 senate races spent less than 300 million, so they have right now in 2015 they have committed to spending more money than was spent to pretty much control congress. if this is not the line in the sand, if this is not the canary in the mine for republicans and democrats to get together and say we have to do something about campaign financial reform if we've got people who are willing to buy an election not start their own party -- if they want to start their own party, that's fine but people willing to buy and influence election they have to get together for campaign reform. >> margie continuing along that line, let's put this in context. remember then senator obama's 2008 campaign raised $819 million. the koch brothers political network will spent $889 million
alone, nothing to do with what the gop and other campaigns raise. how can democrats respond to this? what needs to happen? >> first thing is i don't know who the koch brothers are fooling by putting out a number like 889. they're not fooling anybody with that number. i think it's important to remember. >> what a million or two monday friends. >> exactly. i think the thing to remember is certainly buys access. you have a lot of presidential candidates coming to visit them. it helps drive the agenda where you have candidates who need to stand up for the koch brothers and others like them. it doesn't buy that connection to real voters. i mean the koch brothers spend that last time. they weren't successful in getting their candidate in the white house.
it can replace having a candidate who actually can conduct with people. it may do the opposite when you have candidates who will try to reach out to the average koch brother. >> you know that's a good point, jason, because democrats got out and knocked on doors, and did a lot of grassroots organizing. >> also i mentioned governor scott walker, he formed a political committee. remember in 2011 a blogger presented to be david koch and called walker who infamously bought into it. they talked about meeting democratic leaders over protests listen to this. >> i'm used to that. i can deal with that but i'm not negotiating. >> bring a -- >> i have one in my office. you would be happy with that.
i got a slugger with my name on it. >> beautiful. >> and of course -- the walker bought into it but is it just a coincidence he's announcing this today, and is it by chance a lot of that money will go to push scott walker who fought labor and unions in his home state? most definitely. if you look at what's happening in his state right now, he said he was going to cut $300 million from colleges in wisconsin, but wants to give $220 million to the bucks who won't make the playoffs? he's beholding to whoever will give him the most cash in his coffers. yes, it requires getting into people's hearts and minds to win an election. the koch brothers can essentially buy state legislatures. they can buy kansas they can buy iowa they can buy minnesota with this level of money.
it doesn't necessarily matter if all of this money goes into 2016 at the top of the ticket. >> the problem is that it is legal, jason. >> right. >> i want to turn back to sarah palin, marge before we run out of time. the conservative "washington examiner" reports that her iowa speech alarmed some in the gop, quote -- as 2016's race begins gop faces the palin problem. here's what nicolle wallace, who worked on the mccain/palin campaign said about that iowa speech when she was on letterman last night. >> she gave a speech this weekend in iowa where again, on full display with all the gaps in her knowledge. that's what became obvious not just to the public but to us. that was sort of chilling. >> i mean will sarah palin be a prop for the gop in 2016 if she continue toss play a prominent public role, margie? >> absolutely.
her speech was like taking a bag of scrabble tiles and sort of shaking it up and pulling letters out and hoping you get a word. that's what her speech looked like. the more coverage she gets for anything she does saying she's thinks of running for president, giving a speech giving a good speech. it takes away space that could be devoted to you know substantial well-respected candidates on the right, who are looking to make inroads with their party, and also importantly reach out to general election voters and they're not going to get as much time because we're going to spend more time talking about sarah palin. in that respect, she does real damage to the party. >> she is get a lot of attention, no do you about it. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. coming up should an army sergeant held by the taliban be charged for desertion? "american sniper" triggers a
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williams and mid win charles. thank you all for being here tonight. should an army sergeant held by the taliban for five years be charged for desertion? zgt sergeant bowe bergdahl wall street held for five years after disappearing from his base in 2009. now nbc news has learned from senior defense officials with dreck knowledge that bergdahl will likely be charged with desertion for allegedly abandoning his post. official telling nbc news that bergdahl will likely be given consideration for the five years he spend in captivity, but he could lose as much as $300,000 in back pay and be reduced in rank. the pentagon denies the report and says no decision has been made on whether charges will be
filed. >> no decision has been made with respect to the case of sergeant bergdahl. none. and there is no timeline to make that decision. >> but midwin what do you think? should he be charged? >> the allegations against him are so strong. it's not so much he abandoned his post which is your typical awol absent without leave, but he did so and put others united states service men and women in harm's way of potential danger. that is a huge problem. if those allegations are true then i do think he should be charged. can you imagine families of those american service men and women being told listen your son, your daughter is not coming home because one of our own abandoned his post and was unable to protect them. from that prism, yeah he should be charged despite the fact he spend five years in captivity.
>> liz, what do you think? >> we could argue that all day, and we've been talking a lot about it recently, but one thing we can all agree on this man has been through enough. he's been held captive by the taliban, which is by every measure the worst form of punishment. so for me the focus should be on reintegrating this person rehabilitating this person and approaching it with compassion. we should approach all of our military members with compassion and help them be able to serve our country once again. i don't think bringing him into court and furthering the punishment and making him struggle more will bring about anything. what's the purpose? >> jimmy? >> well burg dahl first of all, he wouldn't have been captured by the taliban if he had not left his post. midwin is right, he deserted his job and left others in danger. what we do not know is why he did this. was he suffering from ptsd?
we have no idea. that is the entire point of having a court of law, a military court of law try him for the charge of desertion. all that will come out, and then the jury will decide whether or not he's guilty of in fact desertion. but let the process play out if in fact if this is how it's going to happen. if found guilty then and if not, he goes free and gets his rank and past pay. "american sniper" dominated the box office again, the story of a navy s.e.a.l. sharpshooter chris kyle is number one in the theater with over $200 million, breaking records and breaking open a heated debate on whether the film is too pro-war. director clint eastwood addressed it by saying the biggest statement any film can make is to show the fact of what
war does to the family and the people who have to go back into civilian life lie chris kyle did. jimmy, what's your take? is it anti-war? >> first and foremost, i have not seen the movie. i have read a heck of a lot about it. secondly i went to a military college. when you are trained, you have a job to do. he came home to a place that is not exactly what i would call very good to our veterans. we have thousands of veterans that are -- that come home with ptsd, as we said before. they suffered from alcoholism. they suffer from drugs, and they get lost in the shuffle. the veterans administration the veterans hospitals are knotts up to snuff as they should be. these are people we glorify for doing their jobs but when they come home we let them fall through the cracks. i don't know if the movie is pro-war or anti-war. what i know is when we got home
he found one hell of a place that was not as friendly as he thought it would be and he was floundering. if eastwood is addressing that in this movie, i applaud him for that despite him being a republican to talks who empty chairs. >> liz i see you nodding your head. i agree with jimmy. we tend to talk about war and have movies but what happens after the war, we don't talk enough of. >> right. >> with anything film is art after all. many people have different representations and understand different things from it but i think the movie did a good job. i mean we saw the same thing with "the wolf of wall street." some people said after seeing that i don't want anything to do with it. so i think this movie in the same way, will come off differently to different people in the audience. >> midwin? >> just to echo their points this is war. unfortunately war has a horrific consequence, which is killing people.
it's one of those things that people i think oftentimes are in denial when we talk about war. so if this movie -- and i will admit i haven't seen it either but i have done a lot of read being it. if this movie depicts what i understand to be true occurrences, and then follows this united states soldier back home and deals with the ramifications he has to deal with in light of the service he's done for this country, then so be it. as she said this is art. sometimes people have a hard time with the truth, the truth is this is war. he was sent there to represent this country, and unfortunately he's going to have to do things that we do not like. but that's what war is about. all right. let me ask everyone to stay with me. when we come back the nfl investigation into those footballs. why a 90-second bathroom break is being looked at? you show up. you stay up. you listen. you laugh. you worry.
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we're back with the panel, liz, jimmy and midwin. is a bathroom break the key? today the patriots met with the media in arizona. quarterback tom brady managed to avoid any questions about those deflated footballs. and it came after fox sports broke the story that the nfl is looking at videos showing a patriots locker room attendant,
taking the footballs and now nbc sports providing new details about that video. one unnamed league source says the video shows the attendant carried two bags of balls contains both teams' footballs into the bathroom for approximately 90 seconds. the bathroom which nbc sports reports looks like this consists of a toilet a sink and a door that locks from the inside. but could someone deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds? the nfl wasn't commenting directly about the news reports, and nbc news has not confirmed these reports. but jimmy, what do you think? up to no good? or just a bathroom break? >> i hate to assume but i can only assume that when one takes
12 footballs into a bathroom that's just unusual. i have never done that before. i mean -- i'm a little flabbergasted as to why one would do that unless a really big room or he really, really really had to go very badly at that moment. all i can say is there's a lot of fishyness going on. what i will say is this -- if someone went rogue on shall issue, that comes from the top. you don't do a one-act solo. that sort of thing comes from the top. midwin, 11 balls in 90 seconds? is that even possible? >> i don't know because i've never done it but -- >> that's a lot of balls, rev. >> but you know if this video is true you have to ask yourself -- what is this guy thinking? who takes these balls into the bathroom with them?
what are you doing with these balls? but as, you know jimmy said if this is someone that went rogue, it sounds like it may have been come from the top. >> liz, let me get you before i run out of time. >> even before the incriminating video came out, there was something suspicious and fishy. i have trouble paying attention to tom brady's words because of his beautiful face but even during the press conference i felt the entire body language looking down a lot. to me there's something fishy there. >> thank you for your time tonight. when we come back working together in the fight for social justice here and abroad. everybody knows that. well, did you know words really can hurt you? what...? jesse don't go! jesse...no! i'm sorry daisy, but i'm a loner. and a loner gotta be alone. heee yawww!
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homophobia but that is all in transition because there are people that are fighting every day in different ways to change that. the challenges today on how do you deal with making more fair the criminal justice system? how do you make law enforcement accountable to where they're not above the law? that does not make you antipolice. we are not antipolice because we challenge a chokehold case in staten island new york. we have in fact pro-police. we work with police. i continued that naeem on sunday at a church in london talking about how we need to work with police how we need to find a positive agenda forward together, because the work we do must come from a place of compassion and faith.
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