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used to it and you don't feel that it's -- >> i want you to read the book and find -- >> oh i did. it ain't shakespeare. >> perhaps "the ed show" picks up our coverage. good evening americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from washington, d.c. let's get to work. >> isn't it a great day to be a republican? >> joanie will be delivering the response to the state of the union. >> i love castrating hogs on an iowa farm. >> she is a perfect choice. >> that woman is an onion of crazy. >> i do believe in the right to carry. >> a perfect choice. >> join me in putting aside the
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political games. >> i think it's a little disingenuous. let's make him squeal. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. now right after the president's address, all eyes are going to be focused on this lawmaker, the new senator from iowa joanie earnest. senator mcconnell thinks that earnest represents the change america is looking for. >> senator joanie earnest will be delivering the response to the state of the union for our side this year. she is a perfect choice. americans voted for change and senator earnest will explain what the new congress plans to do. >> well let's take a look at
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senator mcconnell's perfect choice. first of all joanie earnest opposes a federal minimum wage across the board. she wants to privatize social security. she made all this clear in her debates. >> we have already talked about closing the door to the irs. i think that would be a wonderful start. let's close the door. let's scrap the tax code and again let's find something that's fairer, flatter, and simpler, but there are other departments that we could be looking at also. closing the doors to the department of education at the federal level and not just because it would save taxpayer dollars, but because i do believe that our children are better educated when it's coming from the state and the
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localities. let's shut down the federal epa and focus on these issues here in the state where the state knows best how to protect its resources. >> here's more from the perfect choice. earnest said that she would have voted against the farm bill in the middle of the country. she called the clean water act damaging for business and of course earnest isn't schooled up on the science of climate change either. >> i don't know the science behind climate change. i can't say one way or another what is the direct impact from -- whether it is manmade or not. i have heard arguments from both sides, but i do believe in protecting our environment but without the job killing regulations that are coming out of the epa. >> just to clarify, you do accept that climate change does exist. >> i do believe our climate is changing, but i'm not sure what the impact of man is upon that climate change.
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>> so joanie earnest is another denier. she opposed same-sex marriage. earnest has called president obama a dictator and floated the idea of impeachment. >> yes, absolutely. he is overstepping his bounds, and i do think, yes, he should face those repercussions. as a u.s. senator, absolutely. >> the national rifle association has given earnest an "a" rating. earnest said that she would use a gun to defend herself from the government. >> i have a beautiful little smith & wesson 9 millimeter and it goes with me virtually everywhere, but i do believe in the right to carry and i believe in the right to defend myself and my family whether it is
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from an intruder or from a government should they decide my rights no longer important. >> what's the bottom line here? joanie earnest being selected to respond makes a mockery of the state of the union. earnest chosen to respond is an absolute joke. americans, you know what we're looking for? solutions. the president wants free community college tuition. he wants to expand high-speed internet, even in rural america. he's going to talk about cuba tonight, immigration, and climate change. he will outline his new tax plan. americans are not looking for a partisan hack to degrade and dismiss the president of the united states. the country wants to congress to work with president obama. earnest is just another
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republican against everything the president wants to accomplish and on every issue. the best thing republicans can come up with a rookie senator from iowa? for mcconnell to select her is not what america is looking for. america wants you, mitch. mitch mcconnell or john boehner should be responding to the president tonight. this is a real opportunity to unite with the president and move the country forward. now whether the gop agrees with the president or not, it should come from leadership directly. people are going to be walking away from tonight thinking well, this is just more of the same. mitch mcconnell i think, is missing an opportunity to lead and i think it speaks volumes of what really their mission is. their mission is to defeat president obama. this selection of joanie earnest, when it first came out, i really thought it was a joke.
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i thought they were kidding. here are the republicans. they have not had both chambers the house and the senate for some six years. this is an opportunity for them to show the country that they are serious after all this obstruction. they're going to put the biggest obstructer right in front of the american people tonight. i think it is a bad move and the republicans are off to a bad foot nationally because the country is paying attention to this tonight. this is the biggest platform the president has every year. does joanie earnest have the authority to step out tonight after that state of the union speech and say, this is where we can work with the president, this is where we're going to have a problem? that's what the country wants. she won't offer any of that. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is joanie earnest the perfect choice to deliver the republican response? text a for yes. text b for no. leave a comment on our blog on this.
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we'll bring you the results later on in the show. tonight there's going to be a big emphasis on the wage gap, which is something we have been talking about a lot. in fact, four six, nine. april 6th 2009 was my first show here on msnbc. i said at the time i want to focus on the middle class. i think the middle class in this country needs attention. it is the largest voting block in this country. disposable income is shrinking in this country. here we are six years later. we're talking with the president tonight about the middle class and what are the republicans going to do? they're going to put an obstructer up there? it's a fact. gentlemen, great to have both of you with us tonight. i love the president's focus tonight. senator, you first. you talk about it all the time. congressman, you have put out a
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proposal. what can the president accomplish tonight, senator? >> well what he can accomplish is making the very important point that despite huge republican obstructionism the economy today is much better than it was six years ago, but it is nowhere where we need it to be. highest rate of childhood poverty in the industrialized world. he needs to let the republicans say no. let them go back to their usual formula of more tax breaks for millionaires and cutting social security and medicare and let approximate the people decide. >> i think it is important because they now have both chambers. this is their legislative opportunity.
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>> it is to trivialize what the president is saying. we're not bringing forward our leadership to respond. >> your proposal and what you laid out last week is going to parallel what the president is going to talk about tonight. crucial to the middle class. what's the message tonight? >> it is important to recognize that the december jobs report did have lots of good news in it in terms of the recovery. i should say not a single republican in the house voted to make that recovery possible. it also had this wage issue. that's where the president is focused because we need an economy that works for all americans and we need to in incentivize higher pay. >> what's your reaction to the
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republicans putting joanie earnest up to respond to the president? it is almost like they are not serious about wanting to work with the president again. >> mitch mcconnell has said he wants to find practical, common sense steps he can take to work with the president. what he's saying tonight by picking this person is he was just kidding. he didn't mean it. her whole campaign was run on simply trying to roll back the progress that we have made over the last four years, so what it says to me is senator mcconnell really wasn't serious when he said he wanted to work together. if he was serious, he would have maybe put himself forward as the republican leader. don't we want to hear what the republicans stand for? >> senator, the white house is saying today that they feel like they are out of the crisis zone
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for the economy. it is going to be somewhat of a victory lap because the republicans have had no hand in this recovery whatsoever. 58 months of private sector job growth. you have 10 million jobs the recovery of the automobile industry. is it important for the republicans to engage for the next two years in the economy if we're going to continue this growth? >> absolutely it is. absolutely it is. we're beginning to see a few signs of it. for example, everybody in america knows a 7.25 minuteimum wage is a starvation wage. we have to raise the minimum wage. people are working as quote/unquote supervisors and not getting any overtime. clearly we have to change as well. clearly we need to rebuild a crumbling infrastructure. and we need to get rid of some of these outrageous loopholes. >> if the congress does not work
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with this president, what's the economic outlook? right now america has one of the better economies that's out there in the globe right now. the president is now siding with the republicans on the transpacific partnership. there are some democrats who are for for for it as well. how is the president going to make the case for the middle class and support a trade deal like this? >> republicans wanted to practice the austerity approach that today tookhey took in europe. we see where they got europe. the president is going to make the case how a trade agreement can help american workers.
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members of congress should look at it with two standards in mind. how is it going to help the american worker and how is it going to help the american economy? if it can't meet those tests, we shouldn't support it. currency manipulation is not part of this discussion, but it is something that really has put american workers back on their heels because other countries are able to change their currency in a way that makes it hard to export. >> the tea partiers are concerned about the sovereignty issue, about who is making rules if there are any irregularities that are going to be challenged. so can it be stopped? >> i think people are going to see what the president is going to present and then people are going to decide exactly how to move forward. the focus of tonight's speech is
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on the things that we are talking about here. helping the middle class, making sure we have a tax system that doesn't help people who make money off of money more than people who make money off of hard work. >> senator, do you agree with what the president is doing on his tax plan? >> i think it is a great step forward. we may take it a little bit differently. in terms of trade, i respectfully disagree with the president. i think nafta cafta, has been a disaster. >> 45% of the american people now say the economy is in pretty good shape. that's the best number in a decade. i kind of feel like the president has the wind at his back tonight. he'll speak with more creditability on the economy. liberals want the president to remind the republicans that they haven't had a hand in this.
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congressman, is it asking too much to be that direct? >> i think he'll talk about all the good news. let's tell them right now not a single republican in the house voted for the economic recovery bill not one voted for wall street reform. i hope the president somehow says it tonight. i'm not sure held. >> gentlemen thanks so much for your time tonight. appreciate you coming in. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. we want to know what you think. coming up republicans are already attacking the social safety net. later, the president prepares to set the tone for his last two years in office. rapid response panel weighs in. stay with us. we're right back on "the ed show."
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look like me and you hop of your truck, you shouldn't be getting a disability check. over half the people on disability are either anxious or their back hurts. join the club. >> it's important to save and strengthen and secure. save strengthen, and secure. the other side apparently believes they are already with them going broke because every one of those programs is going broke. >> social security is not broken. in fact social security has $2.76 trillion in trust fund reserves. social security, it has worked for 75 years. tonight president obama, i think, has to stop them dead in their tracks and let them know the democrats are going to fight for this. senator sherrod brown joins us tonight. great to have you with us. >> thanks. >> they have privatization in
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mind, don't they? >> they can't help themselves. when they had a republican president and republican house and senate in 2005 they went right at social security. it didn't work. ten years before that when gingrich was elected and when gingrich became speaker, they went after privatization of medicare. they don't like social insurance. they're aiming at the most vulnerable. they're aiming at disabled workers. they don't go after social security directly because everybody has mothers and fathers and grandparents. they go after social security disability. you hear people like rand paul demagogue this. >> he says half the people who are getting this benefit don't deserve it. that's how i take that sound byte. how do you take it? >> abraham lincoln was pushed by his staff to stay in the white house. he said, no i got to go out and get my public opinion bath.
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they don't talk to real people. the average social security disability check is $1100 a month. this is a lot of people who have worked through their disability. they do sign up for disabltsility, they just can't work. >> does the system need to be refined? are there too many takers and too many people gaming it? you do not think that's happening. >> i don't think that's happening. in any major anything is going to have their fox holes or find a story of somebody who is cheating. they can find the same story of a rich person cheating on their taxes. you can always find somebody in a country this big. this program has worked. you can make a minor fix. we have done it 11 times bipartisanly. this is the worst kind of class warfare to go after people on
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disability. >> what the conversations in your subcommittee about this? they really want to throw this to the free market don't they? >> yes. >> that would be their perfect world? >> they don't say that. they say there's fraud. we want to fix it. we can't keep spending money. they don't tell you their real goal which is to eliminate a number of these things privatize. it's always been their game that they don't like the whole idea of social insurance. they don't like it because it is government that works. that really undermines their argument about everything. when government provides social security uninterrupted, never a late payment since 1940 when disability insurance has helped provide for people in their family who are injured, that works.
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>> senator brown ohio always comes into the conversation about the pulse of the country. it's the middle of the country. what do people in ohio want to hear this president say tonight? what do they want out of this do you think? >> they want to hear about jobs. the last two years, the president has talked about advanced manufacturing in youngstown ohio. we passed legislation that replicate those around the country. it was signed by the president in december. we're going the see more of that kind of advance. fundamentally what the president has done already tonight, even before the speech, is change the debate on tackizationxation. all you hear across the capital is we have to cut the corporation tax rate. corporations are highly profitable now. the stock market has gone up, but wages are flat. so shouldn't we be talking about building the economy from the middle class out? you give tax relief for the
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middle class. you provide community college admissions for working class kids. you increase the minimum wage. that creates demand. that's how the economy grows. this whole trickle down thing, more tax cuts for corporations and individuals, eight years of george bush no growth in jobs because it simply didn't work. we have had 55 consecutive months of job growth since the auto bailout, which made such a difference in beginning to grow the economy and we should continue it and not go back to trickle down. >> have you taken it off since the big game? >> it is ohio state colors, isn't it.? this quarterback played three games and all of them were three of the most important games in the last decade. he's going back to school. he's not going into the nfl. >> should the playoff format be expanded? >> the exactly way they did it
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this year. there's a guy named gin who has started the gin academy in cleveland. he has made such a difference in lives of young men. i wanted to do a little commercial for him because he really encouraged this young man to stay in college and get an education when he probably wouldn't have otherwise. >> i'm going to extend this interview one more minute here. the president talking about community college, republicans aren't going to be for it because they say it is a giveaway. this is kennedy-like. >> these community colleges are a big deal. one of the most fun things i get to do in this job is speak at community college graduations. just the cross section of america that comes. people come with their grandchildren. people go back to school at 50.
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they end up almost always with decent paying jobs close to home, so they can see their grand -- it's what we ought to be doing. >> great to have you with us. thanks so much. still to come the president heads into the last two years of his term facing unprecedented option. rapid response panel is going to weigh in on that. later, new threats from isis. the future of foreign policy. stay with us. we're right back. over $98 million dollars and creating over 2100 jobs. from long island to all across upstate new york, more businesses are coming to new york. they are paying no property taxes no corporate taxes no sales taxes. and with over 300 locations, and 3.7 million square feet available, there's a place that's right for your business. see if startup-ny can work for you. go to
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welcome back to "the ed show." president obama has never had a dullards to the congress. he couldn't even make it through
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his early speeches without interruption. >> there are also those who claim that our reform efforts would ensure illegal immigrants. this too is false. the reforms -- the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> that's a lie. >> congressman joe wilson heckled the new health care reform plan. this disrespectful outburst would set the tone for the republican obstruction he would face later on. >> last week, the supreme court reversed a century of law that i believe will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations to spend without limit in our elections. >> the president spoke out against citizens united.
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justice samuel aledo shook his head and mouth, not true. here are the republican party's greatest hits and misses. >> good evening and happy mardi gras. >> health care spending is driving the explosive growth of our debt and the president's law is accelerating our country toward bankruptcy. >> when president obama claims the state of our union is anything but grave, it is untrue. >> believe it or not, only one of those politicians is facing jail time. president obama was the first commander and chief to deal with this. >> the tea party is a dynamic force for good in our national
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conversation and it's an honor for me to speak with you. >> michelle bachman couldn't find the camera but she delivered the first tea party re rebuttal in 2011. three separate republicans gave responses to the state of the union. we're waiting for joni ernst's contribution tonight. joining me now are my guests. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. i love the state of the union. it is like the masters. it is like the u.s. open. it is like the super bowl. it is the biggest platform of the year for the president. michael, give us some historical perspective of what president obama is going into tonight. he is going into the state of the union speech. he has a good economy behind his back, some accomplishments and he's facing a legislative body
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that is majority against him. >> it is not good for a president going into his seventh year harry truman even had both houses of congress. couldn't get much done because a lot of this is exhaustion. even lyndon johnson who was inaugurated 30 years ago today came in with the second most democratic congress yet. most of even johnson did not have an easy time. this is exhibition baseball tonight. >> where's the opportunity with the president? >> this is what the democratic party should stand for, especially in 2016. truman said i know i'm not going to get universal health care and things to help the federal
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government provide aide and education, but i'm going to state this program and hope that a later democratic president will do this. a lot of what jfk and lbj did built on exactly what harry truman had forecast. >> here's my plan. i've been talking about it for a couple of weeks. here's my speech. show me some game. republicans have to come to the game. they have both houses. >> it is a time for him to landmarker down. he's saying here's what i ran on. here are things that even you and some of your candidates for president are talking about. even mitt romney has given a pretense to talk about the problem with wages and poverty. here are some ideas. come back with some of your own. what he has run into has been that he puts the ideas on the table and republicans don't show him enough respect to come half
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way, to offer their own ideas. they're send up bills over to the senate or try to get bills to the white house that they know the president won't sign. that's not governing. they have a responsibility now, ed. they are the majority in the house and the senate and they need to show that they can govern. the president is going to show tonight that he can govern. they need to meet him half way. >> you have obstruction at a level that's never been done before to a republican party that has both chambers. shouldn't the american people expect them to do something? >> they do. i think you have seen that a little bit in terms of what mitch mcconnell and speaker boehner have said which is if they are too far out, if they are too confrontational and go wild, it is going to be harder for them to make the case in 2016 to independent voters and
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some democrats who might consider voting for a republican presidential nominee. give us the keys to both the executive and legislationve blanch branchs. >> the president does not think the country is as divided as washington. do you agree with that? there's been a big story about him not going to france. these are the best numbers he's had in 20 months. >> i think there is some truth to that. we have a cesspool of activity that goes on in washington that does make it seem divided. you look at much of the nusews, particularly on another network. you would think there's nothing going on well in the country. i think the country is probably less divided and a little less tuned in than some of us, though i think they'll tune in tonight.
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is this going to be a challenge to the republicans now that you have the legislative body? show me some game. >> thanks for having me on the show. i appreciate the opportunity to be here. the president is going to be focused on middle-class economics. this is something you talk a lot about on this show. it's certainly too early for a victory lap, but there's no question we have made substantial progress in turning the page from an era of a financial crisis that almost led to a second great depression. but because of the policies that this administration put in place, we have actually made substantial progress in strengthening our economy, digging out of that hole. the question is are we going to allow those at the top of the income scale to gain all the benefits in that recovery or are we going to do make sure
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there's opportunities for the middle class as well? how can we stretch the paycheck of the average middle-class family? we can do all that in a fiscally responsible way by asking those at the top to pay just a little bit more. >> josh it's going to be hard to get some talkkers on the republican side of that. that could be a tough lift. is the president going to ask for the order tonight? is he going to ask for the sale that, you know come to the table with me? i'm willing to work with you. i ask that question because the backdrop of the last congress was a record number of filibusters. tonight it is joannyni ernst from
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iowa. >> it's an interesting environment. a couple of these tax originated with republicans. this idea of asks the most highly leveraged largest firms on wall street to pay more is an idea put forward by the republican chairman of the house ways and means commit aye. we want to raise it back up to 28% for those in the highest tax bracket? that's actually the rate it was -- that's actually the rate that was in place when president reagan was sitting in the office behind me. the fact of the matter is there's reason to think that republicans should support the proposals. it also wouldn't be unprecedented to repudiate an idea they previously supported now that president obama is putting it forward. there is an opportunity for us to find some common ground. i do think there is pressure on republicans now. for the last six years, they have styled themselves as the opposition party. they have tried to seek a political benefit by opposing
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every single thing that the president wanted to put forward. republicans are now in a and both the house and the senate. that means they have the responsibility to not just be the opposition party before but they actually need to govern the country. >> will the president try to reinforce that he'll take more executive action? i mean, and also he has talked about the possibility of vetoing the keystone xl pipeline project, which now has another legal wrangling mix to it with all of these landownersing that going eminent domain. a lot of die nighers in that chamber tonight. how much will the president push on climate change? >> the president believes that dealing with climate change and reducing carbon place in this country is one of the most important issues facing this country, but also as a national security issue.
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welcome back to "the ed show" from washington, d.c. tonight, the president will focus on foreign policy in a good section of his speech with all of the things that are unfolding in the middle east. the white house on record saying they think assad has to go under any scenario and the deployment of more troops is also an issue. joining me tonight is congressman john garamendi. what do you need to hear from the president tonight? >> he should and has been very strong on the middle east.
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obviously sending troops into iraq to deal with isil and that needs to be done. we need a broader strategy a diplomatic strategy pulling together the countries in the area. they are much more at risk than either europe or the united states. not that we're not. >> the president has been clear he does not want more sanctions on iran. he'll talk about that tonight. how big a fight is this? >> i think it's a big one. it's a question of timing will more sanctioning be useful? probably, but it's a question of timing. he's going to need to be very clear not just tonight, but as the days and weeks go by. >> the white house believes that could blow up the deal and really we could find ourselves isolated. your thoughts? >> i don't think that will be the case. iran with a nuclear weapon is not in anybody's interests. so russia and the other p-5, all of those folks are similarly
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situated as the united states but it may come about in the next month or so that the president needs some additional support. that could be the sanction bell. >> does the president need to spell out how we're going to protect this country tonight, with this gen wave, this new genre with isil? >> i think he will and he should. one of the hess principal jobs is to protect the country. i believe he will do that. there are many pieces to t. obviously with isil but also on the homefront. how do we deal with the folks who have gone off to fight in syria. i don't know why we don't pull their passports so they can't travel. >> congressman, did we blow it with syria? did we miss something big here? the republicans are squawking about how the president has misjudged this entire thing, which has elevated the explosiveness of these radical groups. >> i think it's going to be a lot of second-guessing going on. there always is but syria has
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been a serious problem all along. should we have sent troops? should we have sent arms along the way? it's never been easy to sort out who is the good guy in syria. it's just a whole lot of bad options. right now we're on a path where we need to isolate, degrade isil but you need turkey and the occupy countries involved. and finally cybersecurity? >> critical absolutely critical. take to sony and the japanese about that but you can also talk to our own military when they're able to get in. we need to really work on this. it's also on the homefront, its our infrastructure that is at risk here. we have to act aggressively to make sure that our infrastructure that we have the security here at home on cyber. that's going to require a lot of these big national corporations to back down and to accept the reality this is a critical element of our nation's security. >> congressman, good you have to
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you with us. thank you for the time. >> thank you. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. \s. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead -- president obama's primetime challenge to the gop. in the next three hours, the president will leave the white house and head to the capitol for the 2015 state of the union. he'll face the most republican-controlled congress since before the great depression. but he's not backing down. he'll call for action on taxes, education, immigration, putting his vision at the center of the national debate. and he'll walk in armed with some new momentum a


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