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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. that's their money over here, how they pay their debts. if they don't pay, that's what happens. a fight breaks out. >> in progress is a fight. >> come on. >> a fight breaks out over snacks, but officers want to know if there was something else behind it.
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>> you're considerably bigger than this individual, and he's coming into your room and saying, "give me your" -- >> that don't mean nothing when you're -- miss -- >> sergeant wilson. >> that don't mean nothing when you're in jail. >> what is on your face and why? >> it's a face. >> an open transgender inmate chooses general population protected custody. >> normally they're in the closet. >> you try and hurt me, i'll hurt you -- or we'll hurt each other. >> and -- that morning at breakfast, i noticed he wasn't at his table. i went to wake him up and heard the officer say, "he's dead, he's dead." >> an inmate is found dead in his bunk. as his roommate comes under scrutiny, rumors spread like wildfire. >> they said that he was stabbed with his spoon in the heart. ♪
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[ siren ] unidentifiable, like really? >> it's been said that if nothing else, jail provides three hots and a cot. the sheriff al cannon detention center in charleston, south carolina, is no exception. there are about 1,300 men and women incarcerated here. most are only charged with crimes and are awaiting trial at the ruling of their cases. keeping them all fed requires an inmate kitchen staff to work nearly around the clock preparing 3,900 meals per day. mum abdallah works the afternoon
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shift. >> seven days a week, eight hours a day. we go in at 1:00, get out at :9:00. the benefit, you don't have to lay around all day, your bone aren't achy. working in the kitchen keeps you alert and aware of things going on around you. you get to eat good, you know. make sure the food is hot and warm. that's the rice right there. gourmet. professional, i cooked it. that the patties there. i cooked those, too. they're going to want seconds of those, i guarantee you that. >> although abdallah takes pride in his work, he may be overestimating its appeal. >> the food sucks. >> i can't wait to get pizza when i get out of here. >> it's all disgusting county food. >> there is an alternative to the complimentary meals served up in the kitchen. every thursday is canteen day. >> like christmas to them. honey buns, chips. i guess they don't get enough of that on their trays or whatnot. for them to get that, they're happy. everybody excited when it comes in. >> in addition to snacks, inmates can purchase canteen
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items such as toiletries, clothing, radios, and writing supplies through debit accounts funded by friend or family on the outside. >> it's new to me, i've never been in jail. so me coming to jail, this is my first time basically seeing inside of a jail. >> michael wilkerson has been driving to jail every thursday for the past six months. >> can i see your band? >> yes. >> he works for an outside vendor that runs the canteen service. >> this is a three hour and 30-minute ride every thursday. i like talking to them, seeing what they're going through, asking what they're in for. sometimes you're scared. other than that, i love this job. i love it. >> there's also a dark side to canteen day. >> canteen is usually the worst day in the unit. that's when the most fights will happen. >> canteen is money here. when you need something, you trade it with canteen. >> they don't have access to paper money. that's their money here. that's how they pay their debts, that's how they collect bets. if they don't pay, this is what happens. fight breaks out. >> they start fighting like
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right in front of us. it's shocking to see them fight over honey buns and stuff like that. >> we'll follow. >> in progress is a fight. >> tactical officers from the jail's special operations group have been called to a fight shortly after canteen distribution in a maximum security housing unit. >> got them separated. this one in one corner. >> officers assigned to the unit manage to separate the cam combatants seconds before the team arrives. >> one individual inmate received a canteen. another came out of the room to try to steal it. that's when the fight break out. >> the fight was between sheldon kelley and another man who declined to be on camera. >> that's what started everything. about $50. the stuff is overrated. overpriced.
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bag of chips -- those kind of chips on the street would be 50 cents per bag, here it's $1 back. >> maybe sure you get the canteen. >> mr. kelley had just gotten his was going to his room when another came to mr. kelley's room and proceeded to try to take mr. kelley's canteen. kelley bogged on him, he responded with a couple of punches himself. >> this happens every thursday. somebody's going to get their canteen happen. it happen in jail. either you're strong or you're weak. weak. weak. weak. weak. you show signs of weakness, someone's going to take your stump, you don't you stand up, it spread through jail. you can't take his stuff, he's not going to go for that. >> kelly is in jail on charges of carjacking, kidnapping, and possession of a weapon in the commission of a violent crime. he has pled not guilty.
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>> i'm not the type of person to go out and look for trouble. i mean, my mama always told me, if you look for trouble, you'll find it. >> kelly has been accused and convicted of violent acts in the past. at the time of his latest arrest, he was charged with assaulting a police officer, unlawful possession of a firearm, and criminal domestic violence to which he has also pled not guilty. more significantly, when kelly was 14, he killed a man. >> 14 going on 15 years old. i was running the streets with my brothers. being young, wild. just growing up too fast for my time. ended up catching a murder charge by assaulting someone with a baseball bat, and he died. blunt force trauma to the head. he ended up dying. charged me with murder, waived me up as an adult. sentenced me at 16 to years in the department of correct. i stayed there until my 29th birthday. i pretty much growed up in jail. >> kelly's murder charge was reduced to manslaughter, but he still spent 15 years in prison.
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>> at one point in time, to be honest, i didn't care whether i lived or died because i was living that lifestyle and wanted to be out in the streets and doing what i wanted to do. but having no send of purpose. >> if found guilty of the litany of violent crime charges he currently faces, kelly could receive life in prison. for now, he will remain in the segregation cell pending a disciplinary hearing on the fight. he is confident he will be cleared and sent back to general population. >> he hit me first. but it wasn't an effective blow. i mean, i'm trained in martial arts. 18 years experience in martial arts. i pretty much know how to defend myself and know how to take a blow and how to ward off a blow. >> i saw blood on him. >> well, he ran into a few elbows. >> coming up -- >> did you have a poker game that lasted for a couple of days? >> no. >> okay, were there several individuals that were supposed to pay out canteen? >> sheldon kelly faces the disciplinary committee.
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and -- >> protective custody. i can't breathe. >> until you cut the nails and take the hair off, you have to go to a1b. i can't send you to general population. with the nails and the hair on. female announcer: get beautyrest, posturepedic,
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>> inmates come in off the street whether they're drunk, high. >> did you take anything? >> whatever the case, we have first contact with them. >> ma'am, i'm a nurse. >> we do the paperwork, we do initial pat-downs, any type of contraband that may enter the facility, we should be the first to catch it so it would not be brought into the facility. >> this is what we found when we were doing a strip search. it's a levy substance. it was inside of her underwear. >>denting on their charge and -- depending on their charges and when they make bond, most win out in 24 hours. today antwan rivers will be assigned to a housing unit and stay until his case is resolved. >> i'm not a criminal. >> the booking procedure is familiar to rivers. he has had multiple stays at the jail. >> ten-plus. maybe once, twice a year. >> i wouldn't say he's a regular, but he's been here enough that i know who he is. >> no major crime, a robbery or something, no. that wouldn't be me.
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>> how do you identify yourself, as gay, transgender, what? >> no, i'm a gay male. uh-huh. nothing else. a queen in our gay world. >> rivers of brought in on a warrant for a possession of marijuana charge. a short time after he arrived, he was also charged with providing false information to police. >> i gave them a wrong last name. that was it. go ahead and lock me up. you all ain't got the information. >> rivers says he will likely plead guilty and hope for the best. >> any history of hepatitis -- >> no.
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>> ever been in a psychiatric cell, suicide -- >> no. no. >> you have people with various personalities, they dress according to how they feel. i mean, you just do your job. it catches you offguard. i mean, the end of the day, we still treat them as human beings. we never, you know, discriminate. >> rivers has several prior convictions including driving with a suspended license, receiving stolen goods, trespassing, reckless driving, and shoplifting. he says he's served sentences ranging from a few days to a few months in six different jails. >> i know you've been through this before. we always got to go through everything. do you have any gang affiliation? >> no. >> do you have any enemies that you know of? >> no. >> any co-defendants? >> huh-uh. >> do you need protective
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custody for any season? >> i don't at all. i don't want it at all. >> with your nails and hair, you do, unless you're willing to take them off. >> but they're -- i can't breathe. >> until you cut the nails and take the hair off, you have to go to a1b. i can't send you to general population with the nails and hair on. >> long nails and hair extentions are considered potential weapons and ask also lead to unwanted attention. a protective custody means being isolated in a single-person cell 23 hours a day. >> i hate being isolated. i need -- sometimes it's good to be isolated by yourself. but for days and days and days and days and days, good, bad, whatever the situation is. protective custody is nowhere to be. >> do you have any other questions or concerns i can help you with? >> no, that's it. >> rivers is not alone in his aversion to protective custody. his cousin, kalen jenkins, also transgender selected general population over protective custody. >> i did want to go to protective custody. i stayed there for like five days, and then i requested to move to a general population because i just felt the need to be around other people. >> though jenkins realizes some
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inmates have problems with gay or transgender people. >> this will be it. i don't care. that's -- they have to deal with it, not me. when i was a boy, they of always giving me compliments as like, you're pretty, and you'll be a pretty girl and stuff like that. i was just feminine. feminine enough to carry a purse. >> jenkins is serving 20 days for possession of marijuana and has had several prior stays in the jail for convictions that include shoplifting, trespassing, robbery, and assault and battery. >> what is on your face and why? >> toothpaste. i shaved like yesterday or whatever and got bumps on my face. the toothpaste is going to help dry it out. >> where did you learn that trick? >> just from coming here. i have four sisters. so i know about what it take to be a girl. i think they made me want to be a girl just being around them, and they were so pretty. they always talked about girlie
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things. >> jenkins hopes to have female hormone therapy and possible gender reassignment surgery in the near future. >> the hormones, i only take it for my voice. i take it for my skin, grow like [ bleep ]. like not like a b. a b cup. not -- nothing big and heavy. or a c. >> out on the streets, jenkins already has a different look and name. >> cocoa. everybody know me as cocoa. cocoa escorts. yep. there you go. she escorts. she has like several guys as regulars who she knows. sometimes she doesn't even have to do nothing with them. she can just call up for money, and they'll give it to her like that. because they love cocoa. they love everything about her.
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i like the gangster guys, like the ones in the hood and the manly ones. turns me on. >> if i was going to step -- as long as they don't step over boundaries, fine with me. to each his own. a lot of them haven't seen that before and don't know how to handle it. or they're hiding it. >> that's the truth. they try to hide it by pushing the punk away. but excuse me -- homosexual. at the same time, they're admiring them, you know. >> when i'm not looking, when i look, i can see them looking, turning their head. i know they're looking at me. >> they're out like that, normally, you know. normally they're in the closet. you don't find them out there like that. a horse of another color. >> when they try and make jokes at me, i crack right back like it's not -- y'all don't have to play with me all the time. you better get that [ bleep ].
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>> jenkins says kidding is fine but is prepared to deal with anything else. >> if you try hurt me, i'll hurt you first. we're going to hurt each other. you're not just going to hurt me and get away with it, though. coming up, new developments for both kalin jenkins and antwan rivers. and later -- at first i thought suicide. and then his roommate at the time told us that there was something around his neck. >> an inmate is found dead in his bunk, and officials must find out why.
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inside the sheriff al cannon detention center, inmate workers like muhammad live in a housing work in a unit people don't enjoy. >> when we work in the cafeteria, it's more of a privilege. we get the microwave, the coffee and popcorn. but at any given moment, they will snatch it away if we mess that privilege up. >> abdullan has pled to a property crime to which he's pled not guilty. >> i've been in three months. i've been in and out of the facility -- i'm probably not allowed to say this -- for a few years now. i did 14 years in state penitentiary for armed robbery. i got out, there were no jobs,
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no anything, like they just kicked me out. here, you're finished, go. >> abdallah said crack-cocaine has led to many of his problems and hopes to get in the jail's drug rehab program. in the meantime, working in the kitchen has given him a sense of purpose. >> we make a dollar a day. some people might say a dollar a day, but it's better than nothing. the people who don't have anything are able to buy their hygiene and cosmetic items that they need. >> while he takes pride in his cooking, his passion is writing and performing politically charged spoken word pieces. >> the founding fathers speak of american dream, but everything in america ain't always what it seems. possessed by greed and inordinate need to have the whole world bow down at their feet. political assassination, infiltration organizations, never apologizing for slavery or reparations. some of the things you accuse other nations of, she herself has proven not to be above.
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she brings guns and drugs and portrays us as thugs. this nation i live in has more people in prison due to the legacy of slavery, injustice and racism. i turn on my tv and laugh when i see them. talking about being a bastion of freedom and beacon of light. and how the whole world is el us. are we see naive that we'll believe anything they tell us? i'm sorry for sounding so unpatriotic, but the snake had its hands in things being unpatriotic. but they have things so chaotic. the scriptures teach you to reap what you sow. if she doesn't change her ways, this great nation will fall like the beast written in revelations. >> while abdullah contemplates the morality of the nation, antwan rivers had to recently choose between keeping his hair extensions and long nails and being confined to protective custody. >> protective custody, i can't go there. >> until you cut the nails and
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take the hair off, you have to go to a1b. i can't send you to general population with the nails and hair on. >> rivers has made his choice and is now in one of the far less restrictive general population units. >> i mean, i feel plain. i don't feel like me. i feel like me because this is how i am born, but like i don't feel as pretty as if i was -- as i was when i came in or when i was on the street. >> turn around, face me. open your mouth, lift your tongue up. >> rivers has had numerous stays at the jail and says being openly gay has never caused him a problem. >> as long as i pull my own weight, i'm good. people come and talk to me such and such, roommates, they share with you. other than that, it's all right. i stay to myself. i don't cause no problem. that's about it. >> rivers' cousin, kalin jenkins is, also housed in a male population unit. jenkins who is transgender and self identifies as female says
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she can hold her own, as well, but is always looking to make friends. >> the window, i do it to get his attention. >> doorbells? >> it's a doorbell. >> why are you trying to get attention? >> is that a crime? i just want to talk to him. >> jenkins, who works on the outside as an escort named cocoa, is nearing the end of a 20-day sentence for possession of marijuana. >> that's all. >> doorbells? >> yeah, we don't have them. >> some want you to go up on the top floor to knock on other people's doors. we come out here and associate. >> associating. >> trying to talk. but it's hard to hear through them windows, especially when it's noisy out here. >> jenkins has also made friends with matthew glidden. glidden is charged with criminal sexual conduct with a minor to which he has pled not guilty and is awaiting trial. like jenkins, he, too, has chosen general population over
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protective custody but is an accused sex offender. glidden could be in greater danger due to a code among inmates that says people with charges like his should be targeted for violence. and ten days later, jail officials would need to determine whether that code played a role in the death of matthew glidden. coming up -- >> we had a possible suicide. it's being investigated by the state law enforcement division and the local coroner. >> officials look into the death of matthew glidden. and -- >> if you have canteen that's not going to fit in your box, you lose it. you lose it. >> the jail cracks down on its canteen policy. and the inmates are not happy about it. >> they're not always going to comply. i mean, this is jail, you know. the majority in here because they didn't comply. that's what got them in here.
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former new york governor mario cuomo died earlier this evening. he was 82 years old. he was a three-term governor serving from 1983 to 1994. he's known for his legendary keynote address at the dratic national convention where he attacked then-president ronald reagan's conservative policies. >> mr. president, you ought to know that this nation is more a tale of two cities than it is just a shining city on a hill. >> mario cuomo saying this nation was a tale of two cities, a refeign used decades later for campaign of the bill de blasio who had this to say about cuomo tonight. no has lost a giant. mario cuomo was a man with compassion for human kind without equal. he was inaugurated for a second term as governor of new york. mario cuomo is survived by his five children and wife matilda.
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back to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. [ siren] ♪ inside the sheriff al cannon detention center, canteen is a big deal to inmates. but now officers are cracking down on a policy that they've let slide a bit. it has to do with the plastic box issued to each inmate in which they're to store canteen and other personal items. >> all your canteen has to fit in your box with the box closed with your lid closed. this starts monday. so start this weekend working on this. >> i have about $30, $40 worth of stuff. you see, if i order that much, i can pretty much get everything in there. >> many inmates max out the $100 weekly limit on canteen, so the excess usually winds up outside the box.
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>> excess canteen, we think that that's been contributed to a lot of the break-ins and robberies. a lot of guys getting their canteen stolen and stuff like that. we feel that we can get everything off the floor into the proper boxes and stuff, cut back on insects, bugs, stuff like that. >> if you have canteen that's not going to fit -- canteen that's not going to fit in your box, you lose it. >> you don't understand -- >> you lose it. listen -- >> you can't -- >> they got very relaxed as far as that policy, and it got out of happen. we are now putting it back into control which is not sitting real well with some of the inmates. >> you can't shut the lid, if you can't -- >> on the box all the way. whatever's out of the box gets thrown away. >> if you can't shut the box like that right there. >> that's going start a problem. >> yeah. it is going to start a problem. >> for real. >> a huge problem. >> a huge problem. a lot of people going to be in lockup. a lot of people is going to be in lockup for fighting ceos.
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>> we don't mind -- what they going do with it? just take our food and hold it? what are they going to do? >> they're not always going comply. i mean, this is jail, you know. the majority of people are in here because they didn't comply. that's what got them in here. >> sheldon kelly was recently involved in a canteen-related fight. >> kelly used to be an inmate worker. he was always really respectful to us. he was a good worker for the most part. never really had many disciplinary infractions. >> i mean, guy tried to take the canteen out of my room yesterday. when we came from passing out can seen, came in my cell. we ended up in a physical altercation. >> the inmate kelly fought who requested not to be on camera gave his side of the story to the disciplinary committee. >> you didn't take his canteen or nothing? >> no, i don't owe him nothing. >> mr. kelly?
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>> now it's kelly's turn to face the committee. he could receive up to 30 days in disciplinary segregation if they determine he instigated the fight. >> i feel like it's going to play out in my favor because i didn't do nothing wrong. i defended myself. i'm going to let the narrative speak for itself. the officer report speaks for itself. >> who hit who first? >> he hit me first, and i responded. >> okay. you're considerably bigger than this individual, and he's coming into your room and saying "give me your canteen." >> that don't mean anything when you're in jail, miss -- sorry -- >> sergeant wilson. >> sergeant wilson, that don't mean anything in weather you're in jail. >> okay. i'm trying to understood -- it seems like there's something missing in the story. >> the committee has received word that the fight might have resulted from the other inmate attempting to collect a gambling debt from kelly. >> did you have a poker game
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that lasted for a couple of days? >> no. >> okay. were there several individuals that were supposed to pay out canteen? >> no. i play poker. >> okay. were you in charge of the poker game, and when the other individuals could not provide the canteen, then you were the one that was supposed to provide the canteen for everyone involved? >> no. no, this -- why would i provide someone else canteen that loses their canteen? that doesn't make sense. >> that's what we're trying to understand. that's why we're all in this room now. >> that doesn't make sense. why will i pay something somebody else lose? >> thank you. you can step out, and we'll let you know. >> i don't know nothing what they're speaking about, no gambling, none of that. i don't know anything about that. crazy to know someone would fabricate a story.
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most they can say is you're going to remain on lockup for 30 days, 20 days, 15 days, and go back to population. >> you lose a lot when you're in lockup. >> yeah, you do. but it comes with the time. comes with doing the time in jail. sometimes you got to roll with the punches. >> kelly waits outside while the committee deliberates. >> said they were playing a poker game for several days -- >> wanted canteen -- >> correct. [ bleep ] >> he went to subject two, mr. kelly's room. these aren't in the right order. >> and there that's when the altercation transpired. [ bleep ] hit kelly first. being the aggressor, kelly defended himself. both are going to be found guilty because he did more than defend himself. he participated. >> a short time later, kelly is called back to hear the committee's decision. >> okay, mr. kelly. the board finds you guilty of a25. we are giving you a 30-day sentence. we are awarding you 15 days. you were defending yourself, you were not the aggressor. however, in the report it does state that you did continue to fight. >> you threw several punches.
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>> five to six punches. >> someone's in my cell. i have the right to protect myself. >> we did. that's why we're not giving you 30 days. if you continue fighting -- we understand the fact that you were defending yourself. what you've got to understand, too, is it was still -- turned into an individual fight after that. >> all right. i feel like it was the wrong decision, but i have the right to appeal their decision which i'm going do. i feared for my safety. i deferring i felt i had to do with my attacker. he swung on me. what was i supposed to do? stand there and take the short end of the stick? no.
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>> we don't really fault him so much as defending himself and hitting back. but because he continued, and he punched him about five or six times, as well. >> we follow south carolina law. and south carolina law states if you don't try to separate yourself, are you a participant. so he did try participate. he was defending himself, but the fact that he did not try to separate himself from it, he is considered a participant. >> one punch wouldn't have done it? >> it don't work like that. we fight, we fight. you come looking for it, you get what you asked for. >> kelly will spend the next 15 days locked in a single-man cell 23 hours a day and lose most of his privileges including canteen. antwan rivers no longer needs to worry about canteen or fitting snacks in the plastic box. he pled guilty to his charges of drug possession and providing false information, served 17 days and was released from jail. his cousin, kalin jenkins, completed a 20-day sentence for drug possession and was released. shockingly, four days later, one
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of the few friends jenkins made in the jail, 29-year-old matthew glidden, was found dead in his cell. >> he was a possible suicide. it's being investigated by the state law enforcement division and the local coroner. they have not given anything -- it's a current investigation, so i can't give any great details on what the investigation is coming to conclusions on. have no idea. >> thomas dempsey was one of glidden's other friends in his housing unit. >> that morning at breakfast, i noticed he wasn't at his table. i went to wake him up. i heard the officer say, "he's dead. he's dead." my buddy then went to go wake him up. he said that when he shook him, he grabbed his leg to scare him awake. he said -- >> stuff as a board. >> he said it was like rolling a log over. he said he just rolled over. >> glidden had been awaiting trial for sexual misconduct with a minor. >> as far the people who dealt with him on a daily basis, melancholy. just everybody couldn't really believe it.
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kind of crazy. >> ryan johnson also knew glidden. >> someone that close -- you see that person that much and then you don't see them all of a sudden and they're just gone, i mean, that left i think a hole in a lot of people that had at least spent some time with him. >> with me, i just couldn't -- i couldn't fathom why did he want to destroy himself, you know. i feel like the inmates felt that way, too. why -- why did this -- nobody seemed to know. they didn't see -- i didn't see anything. >> the jail's chaplain, eva smith, pays a visit to glidden's housing unit. >> you were here at that time? >> yes. >> okay. how did you feel? >> i didn't know him that well, but i don't think he killed himself, though. >> okay. see, that's another thought. >> it's definitely fishy. >> at first i thought suicide. at first i thought he ate a bunch of pills or something. and then his roommate at the time, he was still in the unit for a while. he moved out of the unit yesterday. he told us that there was something around his neck.
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coming up -- >> he went to court, he ain't like the news he heard. they said he came back. he hung himself. >> as unsubstantiated rumors spread through the jail, matthew glidden's mother speaks out. >> i miss him dearly. i'm seeking hear for this. i don't know where i'm going from here.
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inside the sheriff al cannon detention center, cellmates april maine and colleen spirits have quickly learned to co-exist in a confined space. >> it's cooling being alone, but there's just so much isolation you can take. it's better to be with someone. and you know, we just started yesterday because my other roommate left. so because i knew april and we're both, you know, spiritually strong people, i thought that i, work with her.
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>> i'm sleeping on the floor because i don't like climbing up and down off the top bunk. it's just easier. you go to the toilet, you use it. you know, you got to use courtesy flushes. you know, privacy is just a term -- >> you turn your head and give them respect. give each other respect. >> right. >> unless you're like some of the girls that like to watch, you know. and i'm not one of those, so you have all the privacy you need. >> yeah. you know, if you're going and eliminating that way, then you get the stink out, and then -- >> we got powder. >> you take your powder puff, and that's your deodorizer. you can put a towel over you or something if you want, you know, to be private. you choose different shave days, you know, because i don't like sharing a sink -- we didn't discuss that yet. >> yeah. >> my day's sunday, by the way. so you choose what side you yet. i get the left side of the shelf. and she's on the right side. so everything is separated
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there. you separate your storage space. i'm right side over here, you know. that way she can have her space over here on the left side. i mean, we split. like i tell april, anything that's out, you can use. anything in my box you don't touch. we try take care of one another. but that's not the same spirit, i found, you know, with most of the inmates. >> now the relationship between another pair of cellmates is under close scrutiny from jail officials. 2 hours earlier -- 24 hours earlier, matthew glidden was discovered dead in his bunk. his cellmate, michael bixby, is being questioned by authorities. >> big box subsidy in lockdown. i will not allow him to be roomed with anybody else at this time to ensure the safety of the facility. >> charles dempsey used to share a cell with glidden and suspects foul play. >> another thing that made me skeptical is when he was in the room with me, he couldn't stand the wool blankets. matthew couldn't stand the wool blankets at all. that morning he was underneath the wool blanket.
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>> at the time of his death, glidden was awaiting trial on charges of sexual misconduct with a minor. accused sex offenders are often targets for violence. his cellmate, michael bixby, is also charged with sex offenses. he has pled not guilty and is awaiting trial for sexual exploitation of children. in addition, bixby served a prior sentence in indiana on allegations of sexual misconduct with a minor and child exploitation. >> i don't know how word got to the unit for it. i woke up at lunch, and everybody had known about it before the news got out or anything, so. >> as word of glidden's death spreads, the inmate rumor mill begins to crank up. >> i knew he went to court, he ain't like the news he heard. he hanged himself. >> his roommate said he hung himself. >> how did you hear that? >> a dude in the room with him. >> said the roommate let him do it. you think, damn, who was his roommate? you know what i'm saying -- >> you watch yourself. >> said that he was stabbed with his spoon -- >> in the heart.
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>> i guess with enough fresh can go in -- i don't know. >> with a charge like that, i probably would have damn near killed myself, too. that's not a good thing to go in for. >> nah. coming up -- >> i was fired because of -- i feel like political reasons. you know, i was raising concerns about several issues in the kitchen. >> muhammad abdullah gets some bad news. and -- >> inmate bixby has been charged with assisted suicide, and the investigation is ongoing by the south carolina law enforcement division. that still exists. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture everyday. well, a mbe a problem,dn't your credit is in pretty good shape. >>pretty good? i know i have a 798 fico score,
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at the sheriff al cannon detention center in charleston, there is a new development in the death of matthew glidden.
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his roommate has been charged with playing a role in his death. >> inmate bixby has been charged with assisted suicide. the investigation is ongoing by the south carolina law enforcement division. as far as assisted suicide never happened before, so this is all new to us. >> according to court documents, bixby admitted strangling glidden but said he did so at glidden's request. though any participation is against state law. >> could get 10 to 15 years. >> bixby, who is awaiting trial on a sexual exploitation of children, is awaiting a bond hearing on the new charge. it is conducted through a video link to the courthouse where matthew glidden's mother, sharon glidden, is in attendance. >> all rise. >> you may please be seated. i am ready for michael bixby. >> sharon does not believe her
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son wanted to die. >> you know, if he had really, really planned there, we thought he would have tried to say good-bye a better way. >> do you have a copy of the form for the public defender's office? >> i do. >> mr. bixby, you have a right to a jury trial. >> sharon glidden says on the night of her son's death, he called his brother with a request. >> his brother said, "mom, matt wants me to call classification in the morning and name two people as his enemies so he could get out of there. one of them i do not know. but the other one was bixby. >> i'm going to set bond at $150,000. thank you, sir. good luck to you. >> he is dead. i know that. and there's nothing i can do to bring him back. i miss him. i miss him dearly. i'm seeking help for, you know, to help me through this. i don't know where i'm going to
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go from here. >> while matthew glidden's family waits for answers regarding his alleged assisted suicide, muhammad abdullah deals with a considerably less dire situation. but nonetheless, it has made him unhappy. >> i was fired for giving an inmate some rice. the inmate lied and said that a staff member said that he, have the rice. and so i gave him the rice, but he wasn't authorized. he was supposed to get potatoes. >> he was fixing a diet tray, and he decided to put what he wanted to put on it because he said the inmate asked for it. but you know what you're supposed to make. he decided to put what the inmate wanted instead of what the protocol calls for. >> according to officer austin, this isn't the first time abdullah gave other inmates unauthorized food. >> the first time, i gave him a warning. second time, i counseled him. third time he gave me, i think, two hours of lockdown. fourth time, he was let go. >> i was fired because i feel like political reasons. you know, i was raising concerns
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about several issues in the kitchen. >> abdullah says he was complaining the kitchen workers who served staff got to eat better than those like him who serve inmates. >> so we got to eat with the slop. and they get to eat the gourmet. so i was raising hell about that. that's why -- it was more than just me giving away the rice. it was political in that sense because i was raising concerns about why -- why we're not having the same right as these other inmates. what's the difference in us and them? we're all inmates. and so it got kind of political, and of it like we've got to get rid of this [ bleep ] because he's going to be a problem. >> staff say abdullah's opinion is far removed from the truth. but abdullah did get good news. he's been accepted in the jail's drug treatment program to help overcome his addiction. >> i'm at the point where i am tired of living like i was living. i desperately want to become the better person i am. i know i'm a better person.
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i'm not a dumb person, but i just make dumb decisions. so hopefully this will help me, you know, eradicate making those dumb decisions. >> and today, officers are hopeful nobody makes the dumb decision to start a fight on canteen day. especially with a renewed emphasis on a policy that requires inmates to store all their snacks inside a plastic box. >> give me your receipt. bring the receipt back. >> good morning. good morning. good morning. >> sheldon kelly, who got into a canteen-related fight a few weeks earlier, is out of segregation after serving only ten of his 15-day sanction. >> i filed appeal and got it overturned by administrative captain. pretty much went my way. he felt i didn't do anything wrong other than defend myself. >> but with no money in his debit account, kelly only receives one of the complimentary indigent packages. >> bar of soap, deodorant, envelopes. because i came off of lockup, i
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didn't have time to call my family for money. they supply you with envelopes, toothpaste, deodorant, things of that nature. this is not going pose a threat. nothing really you can eat. i mean, they're not going to come after soap, toothpaste, and deodorant. they will probably come after chips, cookies, honey buns, things of that nature. >> you have a right to a jury trial. you have a right to be present at trial, however the trial will proceed in your absence. if you fail to appear or violate
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a condition of the bond. due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. when they see us wearing this uniform, plus the shotgun, they know we mean business. >> the jail's special operations group is called in to deal with

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