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how these die out quicker than people would expect. >> i learned after living in the south and not knowing about november tornados and watching the damage is amazing. when i heard about it yesterday, i thought isn't it too late to have tornados? >> it is. >> the little fat kid, the chain smoker from the philippines is into something better. big macs. >> the book tour continues. miami book fair international. we are going to be there. get ready to get on a plane. >> we can't wait. >> let's go. >> if it's way too early, what time is it are? paranormally it's time for "morning joe," but right now it's time for chuck todd. >> with dozens of democrats defecting to help keep health care plans, nancy pelosi dodges whether there is a 2014 trauma. how little insurance companies have spread the word for enrollment. also one of lindsay graham's
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four republican primary foes for 2014. we will talk to one of them at the center of a fight over common core education standards. plus, it's cheney versus cheney. a sunday sit down for liz sparks a facebook face off with mary. what will wyoming voters make of this cheney family feud? good morning from new york. it's monday, november 19th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i have al sharpton talking about what's going on in locker rooms. sometimes it's all in the family for a good reason. we want to begin with the latest on a string of latest season storms that barrelled through at least a dozen states, killing six people. at least 40 tornados are believed to have hit the midwest. an unusually high number beginning around noon on sunday. the powerful storms hammered states from wisconsin east to pennsylvania, tearing down buildings and flipping cars and uprooting trees. this is not the spring.
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this is the fall. illinois appeared to get the worst. >> the roofs are gone and church steeple is gone. some damage on the inside. i would say it's pretty bad. >> seven illinois counties have been declared state disaster areas. the governor will brief the media in his state at about 9:45 local, 10:45 eastern time and tour the damage in washington, illinois where a tornado, about an eighth of a mile wide cut down entire city blocks. jay gray was there this morning. >> as the sun comes up, take a look. this is the devastation that crews will be working through. the kind of debris that families will be coming back to. many getting their first look at what is left of their communities here. they will be searching for any part of their lives that is left from the time before the storm.
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it's going to be a difficult task as will the recovery. >> we are told to evacuate their seats and find a covered concourse while the storms moved through that area. let's get right to my first reads of the political morning. a month ago, federal employees went become to work after the 16-day shut down leaving them blaming republicans and democrats seeing the largest lead in the ballot since early 2009. house democrats picked up new recruit who is have been on the fence about running. democrat his a chance of taking back the house. the senate seems to be slipping away. 30 days later and political fortunes reversed. that advantage for democrats is gone. it's vulnerable incumbents who are angry and scared.
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on "meet the press" sunday, nancy pelosi would not say whether she execs democrats to lose seats after the bungled health care roll out. >> i don't think you can what will happen next year, but i will tell you this. democrats stand tall in support of the affordable care act. jobs will be the major issue as they always are. this is an issue that has to be dealt with. it's a political issue so we will run away from it. >> she couldn't say for sure. the idea. think about a month ago she would have been saying of course democrats will pick up seats. pelosi tried to downplay the affection by the democrats who voted a day after the president presented his own so-called fix to the health care law. it was the largest break any bill so far this year. all but three who are part of the committee's front line program. the most vulnerable incumbents
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voted for the bill. the democratic leader said they were just protecting themselves from getting steam rolled by attack ads. >> what you saw with those people who had real serious concerns, the fact of the matter is about 30 of them and i have talked to them were insulating themselves against sound bytes. >> does that work? >> that's the unknown question. they have gotten push back from insurers. to the president's proposed fix. the president of the leading trade group of insurance companies said they are trying to work out the policy disagreement from the white house. washington, d.c.'s insurance commissioner was fired day after he questioned publicly the president's plan saying it under cuts the purpose of the exchanges by creating exceptions that make it more difficult for them to operate. he may have been fired for political reasons given what's going on with washington, d.c.'s
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mayor and fear of its own reelection. then the website on the defensive sunday, democrats promised it would be up and running. >> i think rolling out of the website, that's terrible. the fact is that will be fixed. >> they can fix this. this is a fixable problem. >> it's clear the white house is trying to lower expectations hoping to under promise and overdeliver on sunday. "the washington post" reported that administration officials consider it a success if 80% of users can successfully buy plans on line. that's the latest attempt to move the goal post. the agency in charge of healthcare.gov is bringing a new spokesperson on board who used to handle communications. he is taking over. they reported that the college paper at george wash tweeted an alumnus landed what is arguably
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the worst job in washington. thanks. the president will hold a conference calls trying to shore up support as the domestic policy achievement is in danger of becoming a punch line. you feeling depressed? run down? like you just can't win? are you the president of the united states? ask your doctor for paxil. second term strength. the only anti-depressant strong enough for an embattled second term. >> even the president's adviser acknowledged the president has to restore confidence and do it quickly. >> when the website gets fixed and it will, you have to say what do i need? you have to implement this and it regains trust. >> health care as an issue is
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not going away. that means they are necessarily ready to reward the other. in iowa, paul ryan tried to channel anger saying that the next time you have a famous politician breezing through iowa, let's be a little more skeptical. >> as i look back at the campaign, i think one of the problems that mitt and i had was we were arguing against big government in theory. here's the difference now. we have big government practice. >> ryan may have been invited to the key note birthday bash, but it didn't stop him from telling reporters he should focus on congress and republicans instead should be looking to a governor in 2016. a reminder that running as a washington incumbent in 2014 and 2016 may be tougher than having a d or an r after your name.
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he appeared on this show and ruled out rubio, ryan and paul in an interview last week. >> i'm a firm believer that nobody should be president if they shouldn't been a government nor first. >> scott walker made this declaration on his ideal 2016 candidate. >> he has to be an outsider and i think both the president and the vice president should be a former or current governor. people who have done successful things and taken on being the forums and ready to move america forward. >> for rules out marco rubio and ted cruz and rand paul. >> all good guys, but they have to be exceptionally removed from washington. >> your criteria would rule out paul ryan. >> if he had a fan club i would be the president. >> not good for him. walker refused to commit serving out a second term saying i don't rule anything out. he has to win a second term
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first. an easy task. the white house was counting on them to be the key ally in the campaign to nudge people towards believing in the affordable care act. insurance companies have been holding back not willing to tie brand names that is a law. there is one exception. blue cross blue shield referenced the health care law although it is rarely mentioned directly. take a look. >> now more than ever it's good to have a trusted adviser to guide you through the health care changes. >> according to analysis, blue cross blue shield is the only one of the top five highest spending insurer advertisers that is putting money into an aca ad campaign. they bought just one television ad. jins july 1st less than 20% on
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state exchanges and the hhs went to ads that referenced the affordable care act and the things that do are not completely positive. that references customers concerns about the law. >> change can be scary. choosing your family's health coverage doesn't have to be. with all the changes in health care today, one thing remains very certain. we will see you through. >> elizabeth willner is a former colleague here and from the campaign media group and political reporter. good morning. >> good morning. >> it is amazing that we are seeing the big fear in the white house is a negative feedback when it comes to health care. there is no positive reinforcement. you have been here before to talk about the campaign ads. this is on the insurance companies. nobody is doing these advertisements as promised. >> i think the administration
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never expected insurancers to be a glee club, but they expected to nudge people to enroll. the major insurers are not doing a lot of this advertising. smaller are. it's a historic opportunity for some of them. when do millions of customers come on the market? >> that's what is bizarre. they will make much money. the administration wrote this law to make sure they were not alienating them and bringing them in. yet we put $2 million spent the week before enrollment. this is not a lot of money for a national tv ad campaign. >> we are used to thinking in political terms and the dollars can be bigger. it's a decent sum of money. it's not what they were hoping for, no. >> some of the exchanges i have seen a lot of the new york exchanges, i think what's interesting, the ad campaign and kentucky, they are trying to
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pretend they are not a part of the entire washington obama care world. >> even those ads is to get people to enroll and they try to do that by encouraging people to sign up or you pay a penalty and it costs if you don't. they are using fear of penalties to get people to go online and enroll. >> at this point because of the website fears, it is pretty understandable that they the not putting more money. it's a drop off since the publicized nature of the website problems? >> we are seeing it in spending with ads that mention the affordable care act. they will be on the air right now anyway. they would still be advertising and getting people to sign up for insurance. since there is no website, they can drive people to work reliably, they are being cautious in how they prooapproa
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this. >> if we don't see major advertising on the next big deadline for january 1st, that should tell us they have bigger problems? >> that's right. insurers work by court order. they want to start signing people up by january 1st even though people have until march 31st to enroll. >> look at the earnings. >> that's right. they won't be disappointed by what they see. they are going to expect it and everything that happened. yes, they will feel lukewarm about how it has gone. >> all this talk that this law was a boom for the insurance industry. they have not backed it up. >> that's true so far. >> so far. see you. welcome home. much more ahead on "the daily rundown." al sharpton and joe scarborough will be here not together, but up next we will talk about their various issues. reading, writing and republicans. common core standards have become oddly controversial.
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so much so that parents across the country today are apparently keeping their kids out of school. we will talk to one of the republican challengers who are trying to unseat lindsay graham who is a leader on this issue. a look ahead at the politics planner. you can see here. foreign policy in the news. we have rob ford who is always in the news apparently every day. we are going to hear from former governor bush. we'll be right back. and just give them the basics, you know. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us.
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>> on paper, ed canned standards
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may not seem like a hot political issue, 19,000 responses poured in with comments ranging from great to brain washing. the fierce battle over the standards known as common core gets the most public airing. according to organizers of don't send your child to school day, parents in 17 states will keep their kids home to send a message to the federal government about the dangers of the common core standard. create bide state school superintendents and governors, they set standards to prepare students for college and the job market. although they were endorsed, it is not a federal government initiative. they were approved by 45 states and the district of columbia in 20 2009, but several put the effort on hold. they are sponsoring a bill to prevent standards from being applied to south carolina. he will speak at the protest. he is one of four challengers
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vying to unseat lindsay graham. good morning to you, sir. >> thanks for having me on the show. >> i want to ask you, do you have kids in public schools? >> i do. my oldest daughter graduate and my youngest is in public school currently. >> have you kept her out today? >> i have not. i have done everything i can to push this out of our public schools. the washington top down approach has failed us in every instance and when you look at the situation with obama care and a lot of other things, the states are the incubators for the solutions. >> i'm sorry. i'm confused here. did you keep your child out of school today as part of the protest or not? >> no, i did not. >> you were advocating this. why did you change your mind? >> i wasn't advocating keeping your kids out of school.
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>> do you think it's a good idea to be keeping kids out of school or not. i'm confused. i thought you were part of the organization. >> no, no, i have been asked to peek because they are having a rally. it's about getting out of the common core and i wasn't aware we were holding kids out of school today, but i am supportive of it and if they feel that's the way to get the message to the federal government, that's their choice. the government has too much control over the children now. >> that's where i think there was confusion. common core was developed by the states and not the federal government. >> there were strings attached. you can say it's not a federal program, but what happened was there was cash and the states got involved at the top to get the money. that's what states often do. >> if part of the goal -- do you
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believe there should be a floor of education standards? right now the united states, we are not a leading education light around the world when it comes to math and science scores in particular. do you believe there should be a floor of basic requirements of public schools in this country that they ought to make sure children have a base line for? >> i think that should be left to the states. i don't think the federal government should be involved in education and have a federal department of education. it should be fully left to the states and the parents and communities will give us the best product. we don't have competition and education is big business. if you had competition, it wasn't so monopolizationed and you will see better results. >> there is private schools. they have been around for a long time. how is that not competition. >> not everyone can afford to accepted their children to private schools.
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the public schools have a monopoly over the tax dollars. i don't think that's right. they fail to educate children in the state government. they all have competition. the competition always benefits the consumer. the consumer is our children and that's the way to go. >> i want to go back to the idea of a floor of education standards. you say it should be up to the states. you would be okay if one of the 50 states who said math is optional. to graduate high school, you don't need to know multiplication. if the state decided to do that, you would say that's the state's prerogative? >> i don't think you are going to see a state do this. >> i know it's absurd. >> that's not necessary. i think that so many of us think that the federal government is the answer. i think the federal government is the problem. >> i hear that, but the federal government is not involved in this. are you saying 45 governors were wrong to sign on?
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race to the top in the common core are connected. >> they were going for the money. it's $4.5 billion of federal money involved. that was what the race to the top was about. it's about the money. if you look at the states, much of the foolish decisions that states are going after federal dollars. the government is more successful know that and see that. people always say there strings attached to the federal money. i believe it's chains that put states in bondage and make foolish decisions because they are so reliant on the federal government that is bankrupt. >> this race to the top is up to a state governor whether they want to participate? isn't that exactly a choice? nobody is sitting there and the government is not telling all 50 states they have to participate and they are not involved in common core at all. i feel like all of your critiques, the government is saying you are right. we won't be involved.
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>> the federal government took money and the state supplied the money to federal government. they took the money and said all right, you join this race to the top and here's your cash for doing it. i do agree that the states need to push back now. this is an area where we can push back. i think that's what we need to do. that's why i'm fighting this fight. you concerned about american students and their lower math scores? don't you worry? the point of common core was to try to basically create a better educated american child to compete on the world stage against curriculum being taught in china and raise american standards. are you not for that? >> the problem is in the family. we raised standards and we raise children who can't read. you have seen that in states
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that had competition. once you start to have private schools and home schools being able to take tax credits and things of that nature, you see a better out come. you look at the private schools and the home schools and that's another problem. the gentlemen is now involved with the sat testing. what they are going to do is take the standards that common core is part of the group thing and they are going to take the standards and apply it to the private schoolers to deteriorate the test scores. >> that is one theory of the case. i have to leave it there. we will be following. this common core debate is very heated particularly on the local level. thanks for coming. >> thank you. >> our data bank is up next. we have special election results and your daily dose of mayor ford. first today's trivia question. when was the last time there was not a u.s. senator sitting or former on either the democratic
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the next number is mon billion. that's how much was raised in october compared to last. this was the best year in history. they raised $4.8 million. the democrats are $6.2 million in the hole. by october they were raising money on the shut down. i think it will come out in december and say look at what november gave us. our next number is 988%. that's the increase in nsa records requests since mr. snowden started leaking information earlier this year. the head of the nsa's freedom of information act office said they had more than 2,000 requests over the past few months. interesting to see how the requests will actually abide by. the last number is 12. that's the number on the toronto argo naughts jersey he was asked not to wear. he made crude comments last week
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and showed up at the game again and got heavily booed and security escorted him out. he admitted to smoking crack and having trouble with alcohol. they will vote on stripping away more of the mayor's power and slashing his budget to do anything they can to try to drive him from office. coming up, the miami doll phipps story has a lot of big pieces to it. whether there is a generational divide developing on the use of the n word. a deep dive into that and the reverent al sharpton. only on msnbc. s not bad for can, right? pfft! [ laughs ] you nearly had us there. canned soup. [ male announcer ] they just might think it's homemade. try campbell's homestyle soup. [ male announcer ] they just you get your coffee here.e. you get your hair cut here. you find that certain thing you were looking for here,
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rooms. should it be okay to use the n word and who gets to decide. miami dolphins guard was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team in the n word made for jonathan martin. he insists he is not a racist. he was fined $25,000 for tweeting the n word in the middle of a clippers game wednesday. he is defending his use of the word saying it is used in the court and amongst my friends. it's a regular word to me. i think i was using it in a social manner, but you guys have to get used to it. i'm a black man and i use the n word and will continue to use it among my black friends and white friends. randall hill said using the n word is a generational thing. >> that generation, they use those types of words. i'm not agreeing with it at all, but we have to say what type of
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relationship do they have with each other? what i am understanding is that that type of language was actually going both ways now. >> the n word debate is drawing more reaction from other former players like shannon sharpe. >> i hope i'm wrong and they don't allow him to say this racially charged word in an open locker room and go unchecked. that's unacceptable. i'm embarrassed for it because if he said that to martin, jonathan martin, he didn't only say t he was talking to you too. if you are black, you know what that word means. >> joined by al sharpton on politics nation, reverent, is it a generational thing? is this the children of the civil rights movement realizing that the history of the n word is a hateful word to so many african-americans and the grandchildren not having that
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same connection. what is it and where are you on this? >> i think what i have clearly been against the use of the n word. >> period? >> period. doesn't matter who you are or the circumstances, but there is generational debate. it always was. when i was a kid, richard pryor used to use the n word. this is not a new debate. what we have to look at though is we are talking about a locker room which is part of the workplace. no matter what generation you are in, does someone have the right to use racial language. the locker room is not owned by the players, but owned by the team who in many cases are subsidized by the taxpayers, you are telling me i have the right to say i'm just a big kid. i can do that at the workplace. what is locker room talk.
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is it cubicle talk. >> we would get suspended or fired. >> can we make allowances. they are using sexist terms and even the standard that includes blacks or it's no standards at all. that's the problem with this. >> sometimes when we get into the debate about the use of the n word. the first thing that people bring up is entertainment and music. >> right. >> he was doing it for the shock value. in many ways and sometimes you use it to remind people of it in a negative light. the jackie robinson movie is a classic example of using it historically appropriate to remind people what life was like. do you look at the industry and say you know what, where are you on the use of pop culturizing the word? >> i have been against it. i had endless debates with some
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of my friends and hop and some of them younger saying i don't agree with it. we had friends that fell out with me about it. do i not agree with it. the hypocrisy is they know better than to do that with other groups. if they really do it with free speech, why are they so careful not to offend others. if the n word is not a denigrating term for blacks, what is it? if it's not the n word, there is no word that does and works for everybody else. come on. they are taking the cheap way out. >> let's talk about matt barnes who made no apologies and said i will keep using it. what would you say to them? >> i would say if he wants to keep using it, fine. if he does it in the locker room, he should be fired. if he does it in any other workplace site, he should be fired like anyone would for
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sexis or homophobic terms. there has to be standards. >> do you worry that it gives a permission slip? i think one of his defenses, almost almost as if it was a permission slip. >> i think the danger, not only do i think it's dangerous to give a permission slip, but the danger is that we know who not to offend. it's really biassed to say it's already to offend blacks. if the n word is not the word, what is the word. can we be the only ones that you can say anything you want, but you can't do it about others? i'm not willing to live under those standards. >> when you see the debate going on in the sports world, do you think there needs to be more shannon sharps speaking up? are you surprised at how this is a lot of younger african-americans who grew up in a different time? have no memory of the civil
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rights movement and even being raised in the 70s, you have one memory. raised in the 90s is a different mind set. >> somewhat of an education campaign, but i also think a lot of them are conveniently. they were not in a time of the 60s. i was a kid in the 60s. they were in the time of trayvon martin and a lot of issues today. they are in a time of a supreme court dealing with affirmative action. they shouldn't just clean their hands of any involvement. they know who to call when they have a problem on their profile. i don't know that i accept that they are as oblivious as they try to pretend. >> reverend al sharpton, i thought it was important to get your take and you bring in perspective on this generational thing. that's what strikes meech.
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you won't always have people i went to high school with. he went right after i was there. i wouldn't as good of a football player. don't miss the reverent's special on gun violence. msnbc. it's part of our special coverage and anniversary of president kennedy's assassination. up next, it's msnbc week here on monday. joe scarborough here to talk about the book. 15 boone legume day and new pictures coming into msnbc as washington comes up in washington, illinois. horrible devastation there from the tornados that swept through the state. we'll be right back. [ coughs, sneezes ]
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look here. the dow for the first time ever has crosseded the 16,000 mark. the economy may be feeling uncertain, wall street feeling pretty good as christmas season starts to begin. speak of people feeling good, republicans seem to be feeling good these days, perhaps thinking that the mess surrounding health care reform is a cure all for the actual problems. the truth is that it's more of a temporary reprieve than a solution. joe scarborough has ideas on how to fix the problem for good. his new book is called the right path. how ike to reagan once mastered politics and can do it again. with me now is former congressman joe scarborough. >> and the guy who gets the show to me every morning. >> 9:02 or 9:03. define conservatism. >> i don't know about today.
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i always said conservatives, the reagan style that i grew up believing in was restraint at home. you didn't blow holes in the deficit. you showed restraint abroad by not engaging in a multitude of wars. in the third component that we have failed in miserably over the past 20 years is you show restraint in rhetoric and the way you connect with your voters. over the past 20 years, we have the opposite. it started with guys like me. we were moderate unfortunately and a lot of republicans spent us into debt. temperamentally, we were harsh. >> it's interesting that they were on the accelerator. democrats want to consider themselves to go forward. progress, progress.
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the other party should be tapping the brakes. that's what they want. they don't like it when someone slams the brakes and they don't like it when there is somebody speeding too fast. >> i have been saying this for years. i wrote a book about this in 2009. americans are conservative with a small c. they elect a new democrat because they think republicans went too far. he went too far left. they elected us in 94. we went too far right. we helped elect him. a new democrat in 2008. he darts too far left. the tea party takes over congress in 10 and too far right. in 12 they reelect him. there is a battle on which way the country will go. the republicans, we have to to start winning elections again. >> use ike and reagan.
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both benefitted from democratic fatigue. particularly ike. there was four straight terms of democratic presidents and it was time time. and yet, republicans had to find a moderate. they're version of the crazy tea parties with 1950 midterms. >> right. >> and so the party went and found a centrist. do the democrats need to go too far? >> they already have. they already have. the thing is right now, the republicans have to do more than try to beat something with nothing. we are going to excel as a nation, if we're conservative at home, if we're conservative abroad, we show constraint when it come to the military. we're conservative in rhetoric. >> what do you say when they say this is a new york view?
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>> i'm being a mocking -- you know we joke about this. >> the new york republican, the national establishment republican as i'm seeing is blow a hole in the deficit which they did under bush. engage in military adventurism it on four corners of the globe. what i say now is what i said in 1994. the fact is, it's the republican establishment that wrecked this party. but the answer to that is not simply elect a bunch of people that are going to go out there and engage in, you know, sort of political warfare that keeps offending the middle of america. we into got to reconnect with the middle of america like reagan did. like ike did. and not by moderating ideologic ideologically. but by electing people like louisiana did that is a conservative, but at the same time, he says, we're going to take care of obama care but we're not going to shut down the federal government. >> bobby jindal -- do you think the republican governors that have not taken medicaid have
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made a mistake? ed the medicaid funding. they're not pro-safety net? >> they're, they're pro-safety net, but they're concerned about since barack obama became president in 2008. starting in january 2009, a lot of these programs have just absolutely exploded. do thing that bobby jindal made a mistake? scott? >> well, scott's trying to make it. >> you snknow what, the preside of the senate in florida said the first two or three years are great. we're concerned about the out-years bought medicaid is taking up 25%, 30% of the budget. >> you're sympathetic? >> i'm sympathetic to the arguments but i'm where scott is on this. if you can figure out a way to make it viable and sustainable, they should probably take the medicaid money. i say is that only because this idea, this libertarian dream
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that we can do nothing on health care reform. and why people continue taking their children to the emergency room at 11:00 at night, if that's their primary -- that ends up costing us so much more than an organized, conservative program. >> joe scarborough with a logical book that it doesn't always work in america. my friend, thanks. trivia, 1936, the last time there was no senator on the presidential ballot thanks to today's winner jordan suddeth. we'll be right back. and... wow. this is your best ever. thank you. [ female announcer ] pillsbury pie crust. make the holidays pop.
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very quickly, my monday take-away. the cheney family feud over same-sex marriage with liz cheney and her sister mary married to a woman. liz who otherwise has been so careful about her wyoming senate bid was unable to get her sister and sister-in-law on board or apparently even talk to them in
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advance about her position on this issue. how did liz cheney blind side her own sister or get blind sided with her sister with this facebook back and forth? did they really not talk about this issue in advance? and with the last, this family spat made it seem like liz schaen w cheney was unprepared and voters could end up questioning her authenticity. while cheney is already battling skepticism that she's an outsider. coming up next, chris jansing, i'll see you next. bye-bye.
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