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>> brennan: welcome back to "face the nation" i'm margaret brennan. we continue our conversation with stoneman douglas high school students jaclyn corin, brian deirsch and da lena tarr plus cameron kasky and emma gonzales you guys are more than students you've become activists, you've had this incredible turn out not just here in washington but around the country. emma, how do you keep this momentum going? >> we're going to be pushing foe election. this is not the end. this is just the beginning. we're going to -- over the summer we're going to try to go around to colleges and stuff and communities, reach out to the kids locally around the country.
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we didn't just have support all over the country we have support all over the world. we had like 900 marchs. >> brennan: what does that feel like? do you go home watch the news coverage? >> we went to eat some food. we had a nice hang out at the hotel which is my voice is so hoarse. >> all about registering to vote, starting more of conversation so more people get politically involved because the youth of america needs to step up start voting you'll see the statistics it's an embarrassing turn out. one in five people in the last election showed up the 18-29 demographic. >> brennan: you think -- for you all at this table you have become single issue voters. you won't back someone or vote for them unless they sign on to the agenda that you laid out? >> we're not backing anybody in general. >> brennan: when you do get the chance to that some something -- you won't vote for someone -- >> at the forefront of the
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political conversation. more people a year than -- it's an epidemic that we need to face. >> brennan: specifically someone has to call for ban on ar-15s for to you vote for them? >> i would favor that candidate over another one that -- support some of our ideals more so than another person i would vote for them. >> this is an issue of compromise in the necessarily an every state we'll have politics who is asking for everything that we're asking for. but we want more than anything our voters to make educated votes. we want them to know what it is they're voting on that's what we've been pushing. even if they don't necessarily always agree with us our country needs to know what they're voting on. can't stand behind when there are issues that need to be at the forefront. this needs to be centralized issue in the next election. >> from what you've seen from very recent polls, we saw poll american people are starting to not be interested in putting anybody into office who is on the nra's payroll. >> brennan: we also have poll
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that i wanted to cite to you the cbs news poll shows two-thirds of those surveyed say they need to agree with their candidates for mid term elections on issue of gun control. what we see in november will be heavily influenced by where that candidate stands that's consistent among democrats, republicans and independents. >> as it should be. >> this is a nonparty issue, this is bipartisan. >> one of the issues at the forefront of our nation. as you've seen there have been shooting since stoneman douglas this violence isn't going to end. >> brennan: yet you didn't see the change that you were asking for immediately. this for you is a long time campaign. >> it's the government. the bureaucracy they will continually bog things down. the stop school violence act if you read the whole thing it doesn't really do much. most of it is already things that have been done especially in our school, a lot of those were already checked off. but these things still happened. it's just going to continue to happen unless we change something.
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>> that bill, the rhetoric is since government will never agree on anything we have to pass something very easy and simple that everyone can get behind. that's because it doesn't do anything. that bill does nothing to keep the students or people outside of schools outside the line of fire. >> brennan: that bill the -- stop school violence. this isn't just in schools. who have woken up to the sound of gunshots very frequently this is everywhere. this is an epidemic. to stop school violence act does almost nothing to stop it. doesn't say the word gun once or background checks once. 97% of the country sewed that they support universal background checks. anyone who doesn't i don't understand that. >> brennan: well all of you, as you say you're going to continue to work on this, we'll continue to track what you get done. thank you very much for coming here. congratulations. >> thank you. >> brennan: you're all very >> brennan: you're all very excited about that. we'll be right back. veir. get domo.
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>> brennan: turn is a student who has an opposing viewpoint in the debate over gun violence. since the shooting at his school last month, kyle saw schiff has met with president trump along with top law i can makers pushing proposals to improve school safety and voice his support for the second amendment. and kyle sa -- kashuv is here with us today. welcome to "face the nation."
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you don't necessarily support the martha just happened but tell me why you're here in washington. >> i'm here for one very simple reason. i don't want to see this ever happen again. what i saw at the march which was frustrating i have a different point of view what concerned me how come i wasn't invited to speak at the march as americans we all have different points of views. >> brennan: your point of view is what, you don't agree with the agenda that they're laying out there in terms of restrictions on assault weapons? >> yeah. i talked to senators, i looked at all the facts they point in the same direction that ban on assault weapons will notxdçó soe this issue, simply -- >> brennan: restrictions on high capacity magazines. >> what we've seen certain things such as having -- enforcing regulation that is currently in law we've seen on so many different levels that the fbi failed, sheriffs failed, so many different multi-layered
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levels failed in parkland, it's absolutely reprehensible that i didn't see one single poster that said, f the nra -- sorry that said,. >> brennan: you are survivor. you lived through this assault yourself. what do you think would have prevented another student like you from going through something similar? >> look, this kid was flagged. he was flagged by the child protective services. >> brennan: the shooter. >> i don't like to say his name. i prefer not. to he was flagged by the fbi. flagged so many different times and we need to see that we have to hold our government accountable. we have to. because this can happen again if our government does not do what it's supposed to do. i find it ironic that after all this, we've seen so many different government failures we want to trust the government even more. >> brennan: do you have any points of agreement with your classmates? >> i agree with them completely, this cannot happen ever again.
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but i differ with them in what policy needs to be made. >> brennan: you've been here in washington, you actually were walking to the white house, first lady invited you as well. do you think that you're going to stay politically involved? >> look, i'm going to do everything that i have to do to make sure that won't ever happen again to ensure american safety. >> brennan: have you consideree when you go back to parkland and you have to go to school and sit in the same classroom with some of the these people that you're disagreeing with, how many other fellow students support your way of thinking? >> there's a silent minority at stoneman douglas who agrees with me completely. something called the marshal program which was registered, implemented in florida in which would allow properly trained officers and veterans, unemployment veterans to acquire the training to protect our school because we've seen in maryland, only way to stop a bad
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guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. how come we did not see -- >> would you have liked more armed guards at the school? >> absolutely. you saw in maryland he stopped the shooter, he did his job, he had the cowards of broward done their job i think that count in parkland would have been much lower. we saw that in march land that good guy be a gun. the only way to have another person to eliminate him. >> brennan: in your meetings with people on cop tall hill at the white house did you get any promises to take action, did they tell you anything would be done to follow through on what you're laying out? >> every single senator that i have spoken with does not want to see this happen. i spoke with senator marco rubio. he cares so much about this. it pains me to see how he's being represented in the media. >> brennan: did they promise to do any of the things that you're asking for 1234. >> they promised to fight tooth and nail to make sure this won't happen again. we have to make sure that the laws that we're enacting don't hurt america on national scale. that's why i think that we have to sit down with all members of
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this issue, sit down with me and david hogg and find a common middle ground, that's the only way we're going to protect the american people. >> brennan: thank you for coming on, kyle. we'll be back in a moment with our political panel.
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>> brennan: now some political a analysis, jamelle bouie is the chief political and cbs news analyst, michael we'd leek to welcome to the program zeke miller a white house reporter for the associated press. and anne gearan is without correspondent for the "washington post." lots to talk about in the week that was. zeke, we saw some news this morning out of the white house the president had dismissed his legal counsel john dowd earlier in the week he said he was going to replace him now we're learning the president can't hire the person he wanted. what's going on? >> we're finding out that the trump legal team looks like the trump white house to a certain extent just not getting the is dotted and ts crossed. the legal team saying because his new attorneys represent
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others in that, that they are -- that's one of the things that they probably should have worked out before they got rid of john dowd. >> brennan: what happened. how did he get fired before there was new lawyer to replace him? >> it's not entirely clear like everything else around the trump legal team it is slap dash where they're not actually doing all the leg work, also it's the challenge of working for president trump where he does make some of the decisions, somewhat impulsively that doesn't always leave to the follow through and the leg work that needs to get those things in place. >> brennan: anne, we saw another cake up at the white house this week, h.r. mcmaster who has been rumored to be parting the white house for some time is now resigning. he's being replaced by john bolton. what does that signal about what is ahead for foreign policy. >> buckle up, john bolton is a very, very skilled tactician. he has been around washington
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for decades. he has held some of the most extreme views now representative in the white house in administration's past. and in between those administration. and he has been consistent. i do not expect him to change those views at all. he is interventionist in the classic sense. he was the original neoconservative. >> brennan: the president campaigned saying he didn't support those ideals. >> right. the president has said that the iraq war was one of the biggest blunders of american history not just foreign policy, history, period. john bolton was and remains a resolute supporter of the iraq war. i think it very much remains to be seen how they mesh on policy. trump appears to like bolton for his pithy, forthright opinions
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often expressed on fox news. also just that he's a guy who trump recognizes. he is very opinion eighted very firm. one of the things he didn't like about mcmaster he thought that he was too cerebral and staff yeted everything on this hand and that hand he didn't like that. >> one thing that is worth noting about president trump did he campaign against the iraq war but that wasn't necessarily sort of a -- president trump throughout the campaign in 2016 said that what the united states military should have done is taken the oil, should have more aggressive. imperial power in iraq, there's a degree to which bolton twist reflects this aggressiveness within trump's political message that was there at the same time trump was skeptical of the iraq war. >> i agree with that.
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he is not a neoconservative. does not believe -- >> brennan: the president is not. >> bolton isn't. owes much more in the category of dick cheney. a hard powered realist. interventionist, exactly right. but not with an idealistic bent. i think it does fit the president in a certain way, but i think sometimes we read a little bit too much into these, too. i'm not sure that this represents some kind of change in policy. i think it's just equally plausible that the president likes people who play loyalists on television. that's exactly what he was. i think that's what attracted the president to him not his views on foreign policy. >> brennan: it's interesting you say you don't necessarily view him as ideological in this sense. because there has been this narrative that the president surrounding himself with people who are more ideological on some of these issues. certainly on iran, bolton has been on the record that he wants fully pull out of the nuclear
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deal. he's been on the record urging some military intervention in north korea as well. >> i think deferring to people to defer to him. who are not disagreeing with him. he punished people that confront him that bring a different perspective. i don't think larry kudlow -- he's a supply cider. president is not. doesn't have any views on that topic as far as i can tell. but he's a loyalist. i think he's selected out people who have strong views but disagree with him. >> even all the factions early on in the administration the jared kushner wing, the reince priebus wing of republican has been weakened and steve bannon has been exiled out and replace that team with squad of cheerleaders who have that personal relationship with the president, that is what he values more than anything else. i think that's exactly right way to view both cuddly hire and
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bolton. >> i think we shouldn't under state that kudlow, bolton, they are television personalities as much as pundits or operators. there is something to the fact that the president who does watch tremendous amount of fox news, every morning tweets, live tweets fox news. >> he doesn't watch television very often. >> never seen a lick of it. but there's -- there has to be degree which this does reflect that president's comfort with these television personalities. that he likes what they say on tv he wants them in the white house. >> brennan: that idea is larry kudlow on his economic team replacing gary cohnment president doubled down this week on the tariff not just on aluminum but on chin. that how do you make sense of that, michael? did this start a trade war? >> i think could make logical sense ever it. he's not just surrounded by chaos, chaos is internal. he doesn't have consistent views
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on a number of things. tariffs may be actually an exception. this is one issue that he has talked about for dwight awhile. but certainly doesn't influence his personnel choices in this case. i think. >> brennan: anne, do you think that putting these tariffs on china, they're not detailed yet complicates the rest of the diplomacy with north korea because we need china's help? >> for sure. this is something that trump talked about aversion of this on the campaign and people expected to see early on in the administration the fact that he didn't move on it quickly was seen as, oh, he's actually serious about trying to do something about north korea then they did it. they spent a year applying very strict sanctions with china's cooperation and help at the united nations. and trump would occasionally smack it around saying he's not doing enough then almost in the
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same breath he would say but he's a good guy, he's trying to do something. trump really does appear to understand that a key to any solutionñr with north korea it goes through china. and so why he's doing this now is a mystery to me. it absolutely complicates things. we have not heard china say at this point that they will no longer cooperate or really make any definitive statements about north korea at all. but clearly it's a card they now have to play. >> brennan: what happened on friday? the president came out and tweeted he was going to veto this $1.3 trillion spending package that he had been suffer swayeded, white house said are you going to sign off on. four hours later he changes his mind again. >> it's been clear that did he not like this legislation, paul ryan had to go over to the white house to convince him earlier in the week to get behind it. he was watching television use. all comes -- he was watching fox
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news getting criticism from traditional conservatives over big spending legislation, that republicans ran against, talked a lot about certainly in the obama years, this is one the president was going to have to sit down and sign. it was $1.3 trillion price tag was also some of the other little sweeteners that democrats got as inducement to get their votes, all of those things got the president riled up that morning. it's not clear what he thought he was going to get, congress was out of town. a little bit of frustration. >> it was striking to watch that happen on twitter just remarkable statement of presidential weakness, this is republican president, republican congress this is republican spending bill fundamentally, the president has gone on his main platform to say, i hate this bill, i'm not going to let it happen again. which races the question how did it happen in the first place. i think that reflects the sense of what president trump is not a
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particularly engaged president with congress, does not have the strength and relationships that would get him to work his will in congress. i'm just shocked that he would express this, let the world know that this is the case. but i suppose that is how president trump does things. >> image ins himself a great negotiator, some is not a good negotiating approach. >> brennan: say you're going to do something then not do it. >> exactly. he wants high stakes negotiations with the north koreans with the chinese on tariffs. but it's really a self confidence without accomplishment. i don't see him as particularly good in negotiations, particularly with the congress. but in other areas. i think he images ins himself the great negotiator but i'm not sure reality shows it. >> michael, ask you about another tv moment yet to come on "60 minutes" on this network, stormi daniels is going to tell her story. that week we heard from playboy playmate who claims to have past
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affair with donald trump before he was president. are these stories credible? do they matter if. >> extraordinary culture moment that a porn star is more credible than the president of the united states when it comes to these matters. i don't think it's even close. i would take her word over his on any of these matters. this is a case where the president has been caught in a certain approach, which is he plays it close to the line, violates rules, he does unethical things and when he buys the silence of others, he buys legal threats and encourages non-disclosure agreements trying to cover what he does. she has called him on this. i think it's amazing cultural moment. >> brennan: a cultural moment. does it have a political cost? >> i think it does. one thing that is striking about the stormi daniels controversy, scandal. >> brennan: we don't know what
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to call it. >> daniels-gate? she's been able to keep it in the news. >> brennan: that's part of the legal strategy wait appear. >> so much -- unlike so much of the controversy around president trump she and her lawyers have been able to make this a continuing story that to me what i think this might actually have some political consequences down the road. it is putting him in a bind, putting him and his team in a bind they have to do something to address it without confirming it. that is something that is -- that is a line they haven't been able to -- >> they have been silent which is extraordinary. >> brennan: very quickly, ab, are we going to see the white house expel russian diplomat as they're indicating. >>ñi the white house is considering, trump appears to be ready to go along with it as we've discussed. but minimum of 20 is what is on the table according to people i've talked to in the last couple of days. and this would be insol dear. >> brennan: we'll watch and see thank you very much to all of you.
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we'll be back in a moment.
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>> brennan: that's it for us today thank you for watching. until next week fo r "face the nation" i'm margaret brennan. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh w, it's all new.
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