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the country's new rulers are promising that it will eventually lead to a peaceful democracy but how quickly egypt will be able to get martha teichner is among our cbs news colleagues who will be taking stock in our sunday morning cover story. >> reporter: it was one of those moments like the fall of the berlin wall. an event so stunning that even days later, egyptians just want to be in tahrir square to convince themselves it really happened. but will it turn out to be the revolution they've been waiting 5,000 years for? ahead this sunday morning, egypt. we look forward and backward as the great party winds down. >> osgood: tomorrow is saint valentine's day, the day where professions of love-- some of which have always led to proposals of marriage. that was once upon time but
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instead of rushing to say i do these days, more and more young lovers are saying i don't. tracy smith has been tracking the trend. ♪. >> reporter: marriage. it used to be a must.(rp> reporter: later on sunday morning, deciding not to tie the knot. >> osgood: the grammys will be handed out tonight here on cbs. this morning we salute a star whose horn of plenty has won him eight of the world's biggest awards. he's a man of many gifts, one of which is the gift of giving. russ mitchell will be visiting her alpert. ♪. >> reporter: it's been nearly 50 years since harp alpert introduced his smooth tijuana
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brass sound. ♪ he's been playing ever since. not to mention painting. sculpting and giving away millions to help others. herp alpert's donation saved the school.lá>k=ñ >> pretty magical. >> reporter: living the good life with herp alpert later on sunday morning. >> osgood: to live a good life you have to have heart not the symbolic heart you see on a valentine.aó[p dr. sanjay gupta will be telling us all about it. >> reporter: most of the time we take it for grant. ♪ you've got to have heart > the human÷há> the organ that i work on every day. the demystified org3xhxv4 then there's the÷o5nhbv more sue parhz4yut of us where our emotin and devotion and love exists. >> reporter: later on sunday morning secrets of the heart.
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>> osgood: david martin has questions for former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld. serena altschul takes us back to the era of the boom box. seth doane digs his way deep into the salt mine. but first the headlines for the 13th of february 2011. we begin with the latest from egypt. egypt's military leaders have dissolved parliament and suspended the nation's constitution. that as pressing the army to release political prisoners. the opposition also says it's at work on proposal for a transitional government. o:k mccarthy in cairo. >> reporter: this morning soldiers who to leave tahrir square and let life return to normal. only a few listened and forlorhv the first time drove through the square again. the protestors want former president mubarak to give back billions of dollars they say he stole. also they want an end to the three decade old state of
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>> we want to cancel immediately. >> reporter: the military is now firmly in control of the government. it promises to hand over power to civilian rule but has not said exactly when that happen. so far no obvious civilian leaders have emergeded. leaders ;qve emergeded. in some offices they began taking down the portraits of the only president they've known for 30 years. even as the protestors finish cleaning up this square, everyone knows that the process of political reform is only just beginning. mccarthy in tahrir square, cairo. >> osgood: here at home tomorrow president obama will unveil his proposed 2012 budget. there will be some cuts in federal spending we're told although nowhere near what some republicans say is needed. the conservative politicxsf9ó$); conference came to an end in washington yesterday with a straw poll of likely g.o.p. presidential candidates. texas congressman ron paul finished first. followed by former
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massachusetts governor mitt romney. the government of malaise a has labeled valentine's day a trap. officials there are warning g dinner dates, roses, saying that sort of thing can tempt young people into indecent behavior. now the weather. at long last something of a thaw is taking hold across the country. temperatures will be well above freezing today. the warming trends will continue for a few days although spring is still five weeks away. it's coming though. pitchers and catchers start reporting this week to spring training.z#p7o >> you are responsible for the occupation of iraq. >> supposedly. >> osgood: ahead, david martin talks with former defense secretary donald rumsfeld. but next, egypt.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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>> osgood: the road ahead in egypt is still an uncertain one. egyptian people could hardly have been more enthusiastic in their hope that will lead to democracy. we begin with martha teichner this morning. >> reporter: in tahrir square, they celebrated the victory handed to them when egypt's military took control on friday. >> finally we get our freedom. >> reporter: but are they really home free or is this just a lull before the next
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mubarak strong arms his way into power? is the military capable of steering the ship to a real democracy? >> that is the biggest question in egypt right now. >> reporter: steven cook is an expert on egypt's military at the council on foreign relations. >> history suggests otherwise. but there are millions of people in the streets of egypt demanding that. >> reporter: in its 5,000-year history from the pharaohs right up to the present, egypt has had one authoritarian ruler, conqueror, oppressor after another. the asyrians, the persians, alexander the great, the romans, napoleon. >> the ottomans, the french, the british. >> reporter: in 1919 the egyptians rose up in protest, even women. just as we've seen these last three weeks. and for the briefest of periods, the country inched toward democracy. >> it wasn't entirely as we
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would describe a western democracy. >> reporter: princeton professor daniel kurtzer is a former u.s. ambassador to egypt. >> but there were political parties and there was a debate. it was under the tutelage of a king. >> reporter: the experiment lasts 30 years. until king farouk, more interested in his lavish lifestyle than in governing, was overthrown in the military coups. >> in egypt the exiled king is open to the news reel camera revealing scenes of luxury and garishness. >> reporter: as the dynasty came to an end in 1952, the military took over and was seen in the first instance as a new form of legitimizing power in egypt, welcomed very hartley by the masses. >> reporter: sound familiar? nasser, one of the coups
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leaders, came to power in 1954. and established what became an autocratic military dynasty. all of egypt's presidents have been military officers. their legacy? stability but at a high price. when nasser died in 1970, his successor, anwer sadat won the nobel prize for making peace with israel but resorted to repression at home to crush political turmoil. >> sadat saluted as the various units passed in review. >> reporter: sadat he was assassinated in 1981. the man at his side that day was hosni mubarak. who immediately imposed a state of emergency which is still in effect. >> one would have thought that mubarak would have learned a lesson when he entered power he was seen as a modest man. but over time the same authoritarian tendencies grew
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within him. >> reporter: although the soldiers in tahrir square tended to sympathize with the demonstrators, members of egypt's military elite have a remarkable and lucrative interest in holding on to power. even as they say they'll relinquish it. >> they control an empire of firms and businesses that do everything from bottle springwater to build kitchen appliances, tourism. they operate resorts. this is a big conglomerate. >> reporter: clean-up is underway in tahrir square now. but, of course, it could become revolution square all over again if egyptians aren't satisfied that genuine democracy is coming. >> the die-hards in tahrir square, when everybody sobers up after this wild celebration with mubarak leaving power, will be very concerned and quite distrustful of a military establishment that has been in bed with mubarak
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and has a vested interest in the status quo and particularly the economic status quo. >> reporter: because these people have their own vested interest in the 18-day uprising that could turn out to be a true revolution. 5,000 years in the making. >> reporter: this is elizabeth palmer. it's spreading. fired up by egypt's revolution, protestors heavily outnumbered by riot police marched through algeria's capital on saturday to demand democratic reform. and in yemen too police beat demonstrators calling for the ouster of their president. >> what we want is to demand the rights of all the people and overthrow the regime. the president must leave just like hosni mubarak and the tunisian president. >> the middle east was the exception. nothing ever seemed to change there. change has now come to the
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middle east. it will never be the same again. >> reporter: that's the hope of reformers. and the fear of repressive governments all over the region according to martin indyk of the brookings institution. >> in places like yemen, jordan, algeria, there you have leaders who do not have the legitimacy that grows out of a free and fair election. and who have systematically in one way or another failed to meet the needs of their people. so that's the combination that has to be very worrying to them. >> reporter: not only to them but also to the leaders of western governments especially the united states allied with israel. hosni mubarak's police state was on the u.s. side too, keeping peace with israel for 30 years. but free and fair elections in egypt could change the whole equation says john alterman of the center for strategic and international studies. >> i think it is likely that a
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more democratic middle east will be a middle east where morris lambic voices are heard in politics. islamic voices in politics talk about be more hostile toward israel and cooperate less with the united states. >> reporter: i sat down with the deputy director of the muslim brotherhood which for the moment anyway says it does want to keep peace with all of egypt's neighbors. will you protect or work to protect peace with israel? >> yes, we will preserve the peace with israel. but only if they give up the tragedies that they are perpetrated against the palestinians. >> reporter: egypt's interim rulers too say they will respect the 1979 peace accord with israel. something that comes as a relief to israel's government. spokesman mark ragif. >> israel welcomes the statement from egypt that the government intends to honor the peace treaty. >> reporter: that's for now.
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but politics in egypt are going to move fast as factions battle for power in the political space wrenched open by these protests. >> the dust hasn't begun to settle. how that dust settles will partly determine whether this is an inspiration to people or a cautionary tale. >> reporter: this uprising was powered by the youth who had peaceful, even noble goals. >> everybody is so happy. >> reporter: but in the words of thomas jefferson, the generation that commences a revolution can rarely complete it. and that, in the case of egypt, is the danger. >> osgood: monkey business is just ahead. ♪ that's logistics ♪ ♪ a-di-os, cheerio, au revoir ♪ ♪ off it goes, that's logistics ♪
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>> osgood: and now a page from our sunday morning almanac. february 13, 1942, 69 years ago today. the day peter was born in washington d.c., better known by his age name peter tork, the young musician won a spot on the 1960s tv show the monkeys along with co-stars mickey, davey and michael. ♪ monkey around
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> the show followed the and ticks of a rock band with dreams of the big time. peter got his laughs by playing dumb. >> a pre-booklet to mr. peter tork from the hercules body building school. >> body building. what is that? >> osgood: the songs the monkeys performed on the show became big hits on the charts including "i'm a believer" written by neal diamond. ♪ then i saw her face ♪ now i'm a believer >. >> osgood: but not every rock critic was a believer. where the beatles were known as the fab four, the monkeys were dismissed by some as the pre-fab four. they weren't all musicians and hadn't even played together before being recruited for the show. fans never paid those critics much heed. in the 1993 cbs interview davey jones spoke up for what he and his band mates brought to the table. >> peter adapted in school and so did mike and mickey had been with bands and i had been
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on broadway in the theater. we weren't just sort of like four guys that couldn't sing and play or act. we could do a little bit each, you know. together we combined and made the monkeys, you know. >> osgood: more than 40 years after their tv show went off the air, their songs are still being played. monkey business, pretty good business. ahead, the heart of the matter. out of you. that can take so much i feel like i have to wind myself up just to get out of bed. then, well, i have to keep winding myself up to deal with the sadness, the loss of interest, trouble concentrating, the lack of energy. [ male announcer ] if depression is taking so much out of you, ask your doctor about pristiq. pristiq is a prescription medicine proven to treat depression. pristiq is thought to work
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how we've grown, from our nervous conversations to the one we two have become. valentine's day is for taking the time to say i love us. ♪ ♪ you've got to have heart >> osgood: you've got to have
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heart all right on valentine's day and every other day. here's our medical contributor cnn's dr. sanjay gupta. >> reporter: the giant heart exhibit at the franklin institute in philadelphia is a wonder to behold. >> look at this. >> reporter: for over 50 years children and adults alike have marveled over the inner workings of the heart. ou red blood cells carry oxygen throughout the body. that it beats more than 2.5 billion times during an average life span. and that it weighs less than a pound. but while technology and medicine have stripped away some of its mysteries, the heart as a symbol of love, passion and valentine's day continues to capture the imagination of man. >> even today when we know that things like thoughts and emotions take place in the brain, we still talk about the heart in ways that really
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haven't changed that much in thousands of years. >> reporter: for novelist steven amadon and his brother thomas, a cardiologist, the heart is far more than a muscle. their fascination with it, both medical and metaphorical, led them to pen a biography of the human heart they call the sub lime engine. >> when we were discussing the title of the book, i said well as a cardiologist i would probably call it the sophisticated pump. >> reporter: whether sub lime engine or sophisticated pump, what the amadons discovered is that since ancient times the human heart has held a very special place in the human mind. >> plato called it a knot of bloody veins and dangerous emotions and feelings. >> reporter: but those early artists, poets and philosophers so taken with the heart and its symbolism hardly knew what the organ looked like because autopsies were taboo, that is, until the 16th
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century when the church first allowed and atomical dissections of executed criminals. >> suddenly we were able to see the heart and really the greatest artists of the era including the greatest artist of them all leonardo da vinci begin drawing extremely accurate pictures of the heart. >> reporter: da vinci employed some unconventional methods to procure his subjects. >> there was quite a competition for corpses back then. >> reporter: grave robbing. >> one sculptor wanted it and another did. i think da vinci may have had very good men on the ground because his drawings were very extensive. >> reporter: still doctors remained in the dark ages about the true function of the heart for another century. >> one of the key facts about cardiology is that nobody understood the basic function of the heart until 1620. until then people did not know that blood circulated through the body which is a pretty big mistake. >> reporter: it wasn't until
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the 19th century that still more of the mysteries of the heart were finally revealed. >> people didn't know there was such a thing as heart disease until the late 18th early 19th century. once people understood that you could have a heart attack and there was heart disease the heart became probably the single most terrifying image in literature. >> reporter: consider the tale of murder and madness by edgar allen poe the tell tale heart written in 1843. >> first of all i dismembered the corpse. >> reporter: in it the heart of a murdered man continues to beat in the mind of his murderer ultimately driving the killer insane. >> louder, louder. >> reporter: these days what was once so mysterious at times can be almost mundane, even funny. we've reached the point where we tend to see our heart as an organ we can manage, even control. with heart healthy diets,
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exercise, and cholesterol- lowering drugs. >> from a medical standpoint you can really look at the last 100 years and see an explosion of information about heart disease. >> reporter: but with valentine's day tomorrow, it's a good time to remember that it's still the emotional heart that most of us spend a lot of our time thinking about. if you had to characterize the heart, how would you characterize it? what immediately springs to your mind? >> i really think of two different hearts. there's the organ that i work on every day, the demystified organ and then the more sub lime part of us where our emotions, our devotion and our love exists ♪ i'd be tender, i'd be gentle, and awful sentimental ♪ > and like the tin man in the wizard of oz it's the melding of these two views, a heart that beats, a heart that feels. that is the heart everyone
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most fondly desires ♪ if i only had a heart >> osgood: weddings on the wayne. coming up. ,,,,,,,, ,,,,
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>> osgood: when two lovers woo they still say i love you. the fundamental things apply but as time goes by it seems more and more young people instead of saying i do are saying they don't. as tracy smith reports, it's not the same old story. >> reporter: look at the faces of brides-to-be, and you get the sense that they all want the same thing. it's that moment, that split second on her wedding day when time stops and all eyes are on her as she stands before the world in a dress designed to stun. at this bridal shop in new york, the fantasy of the perfect wedding is alive but wond the sequines and chiffon, marriage itself is fading fast. for the past few decades the percentage of married adults
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in the u.s. has dropped steadily from 72% in 1970 to 54% last year. >> we're living longer outside marriage than ever before. >> reporter: stephanie is the author of a new book about the evolution of women in society. >> we're spending much more time getting education, establishing ourselves in jobs before we get married, and then when we get married, staying together until death to us part is a bigger challenge than it used to be. >> reporter: what's more, the perception of marriage has changed. in a poll for sunday morning, seven in ten americans say the institution of marriage is weaker now than it was 20 years ago. >> not everyone is going to stay married. >> reporter: chuck is chairman of the let's strengthen marriage campaign. is marriage obsolete? >> i'm a business guy. i look at research. the research shows here that people who are married live longer. they're healthier. they have a lot more wealth.
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and they're happier. i don't think that's obsolete. >> reporter: are married people happier? >> married people who are in good marriages are about as happy as you can get. followed by never married single women 50 years and older who have discovered that, in fact, there are lots of pleasures in singlehood. >> reporter: are you happy? >> absolutely. >> reporter: jane is one of them. a successful marketing executive, she owns her own home, has her own boat and a big circle of friends. everything, it would seem, except a husband. >> the reasons why people get married are no longer what they used to be. you used to get married to have sex. no one had sex before marriage. you didn't have kids unless you were married. now people are having kids outside of marriage. women used to get married for financial security because they didn't have any other way to sustain themselves. that's all gone. >> reporter: with no compelling reason to wed, she chose not to jump at the first proposal. >> i could have easily have gotten married.
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plenty of times. but i probably would have been a divorce statistic. i feel like i didn't make a mistake. >> reporter: it wasn't all that long ago that the prevailing wisdom was get married or else. >> and the pressures to marry and the prejudice against people who didn't marry were so great that a woman who reached age 24 or 25 was considered highly suspect. she was what the japanese called christmas cake, unlikely to be taken off the shelf. >> reporter: the expectations once you were married were different. >> it was a big gallup poll in 1962 just before "the feminine mystique" was published and they asked women what makes for a good marriage. women said, well, every marriage needs a boss. when sociologist interviewed people and asked, you know, do you have a good marriage, they would get answers like this. yes, we have a very good marriage. we hardly... he hardly ever
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hits me. >> reporter: of course as women's roles in society changed so did their view of marriage. in this country now, women outnumber men in college and nearly twice as many single women than single men own their own home. they're getting married later and at all different stages of life. mara is the president of kleinfeld bridal. do you have maternity wedding dresses. >> they don't start out to be that way. we can adjust them. our alterations department is filled with magicians. now a bump is a fashion item as well. >> reporter: a pregnancy bump is a fashion item even in a wedding dress. >> yes: go down with aisle with a bump and flowers and nobody thinks anything of it. they congratulate them twice. >> reporter: and the truth is even as the number of married people shrinks, poll numbers show the urge to tie the knot is still strong. among those who have never been married, a vast majority
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of them, 77%, say it's important to them to tie the knot some day. >> you're going to kill me. now that changes everything. >> reporter: just getting ready to marry has become a spectator sport. >> i like to be different from everybody else. >> reporter: with no fewer than half a dozen wedding-themed reality shows. >> are you saying yes to this dress? i'm saying yes to this dress. >> reporter: is it possible that we love weddings but we're not so crazy about marriage anymore? >> well, there is something to that because it's such an excitement of the preparation for the wedding. >> reporter: in fact while marriage may be faltering, the wedding business itself is paradoxically on a roll. >> it's very profitable right now. >> hey, thanks. >> reporter: 40 years ago actor wayne rogers was on the tv show mash. >> a little more veil please. i can still see your face. >> our revenue will probably in excess of $30 mill i don't
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remember. >> reporter: now investor wayne rogers is a partner at the bridal shop. >> if there are more unmarried people than married people that means many more people who need to get married. that just opens our opportunities. that gives us a bigger market because those people will some day want to get married it's a natural thing. >> reporter: even if they don't stay married. >> even if they don't. listen, as we well know sometimes people get married 2, 3, 4 times. wonderful for business. ♪ i have but one love > which is not to say that 'til death do us part is dead. the people in this 1951 wedding are still married happily. >> i don't feel like i really worked at our marriage to make it happy. it just came naturally. >> reporter: tom and olga will celebrate their 60th anniversary in may. they're also the parents of a single daughter, jane.
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>> jane? she's so happy. >> reporter: their fine with her status as a happily single woman. the topic of marriage never comes up. well, almost never. >> for every woman there's a man. so there has to be one out there. >> i don't know. he's hiding. >> reporter: would you like to be married? >> you know, i would love to be in a committed relationship but i'd also love to be rich and gorgeous and two inches taller but i'm not going to slit my wrists over that either. >> reporter: there's still hope on the marriage front. there might not be on the two inches taller. >> yeah. i hope so. i would love to. yeah. with the right guy. got to be the right guy. where is he? >> looking back on it, do you
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gotta get that bacon! dog: yummy. crunchy. bacon. bacon. bacon. there, in that bag! mom: who wants a beggin' strip? dog: me! i'd get it myself but i don't have thumbs! yum, yum, yum... it's beggin'! hm... i love you! beggin' strips! there's no time like beggin' time! former defense secretary donald rumsfeld has just published a memoir titled" known and unknown." that title comes from his famous remarks that in military intelligence already known knowns, unknown snichl knowns and. secretary rumsfeld sat down to talk about his long and controversial career with our national security correspondent david martin. >> reporter: as long ago as 1971 richard nixon was heard on the oval office tapes grousing about the rumsfeld problem.
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>> rumsfeld is a different cup of tea, you know. >> reporter: donald rumsfeld was a presidential aide and maybe too big for his britches. nearly three decades later the rumsfeld problem came to the pentagon with orders from president bush to shake the place up. >> change is hard for people. >> reporter: change is hard but did you make it harder than it had to be by alienating people? >> if you don't want to change and someone above you wants to, it's not fun. >> reporter: the former college wrestler grappled with the military establishment he viewed as unimaginative and cumbersome. what started as a bureaucratic battle over the size and speed of u.s. military forces became a matter of life and death after 9/11. rumsfeld wanted small commando teams on the ground in afghanistan to call in air strikes. but when the bombing started they still hadn't made it in. and his famous impatience boiled over. this is how you quote yourself in the book talking to tommy franks the commander.
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"we are sitting here like little birds in a nest waiting for someone to drop food in our mouths." >> sometimes i'm colorful. >> reporter: and he wrote what he called the goose egg memo to the chairman of the joint chiefs. "i am seeing next to nothing that is thoughtful, creative or actionable. how can that be?" >> that was a good memo. and what i wanted to do is to put some sense of urgency into this big department of defense, this bureaucracy. >> reporter: why did you call it the goose egg? >> because i think in the memo i said what are we coming up with a goog egg? we haven't got any new creative ideas that we... how this department can contribute to the global war on terror. >> every day the targeting and effectiveness has improved. >> reporter: in public the he relished the role special forces played in the swift ouster of the taliban. in private he was warning president bush afghanistan risks becoming a swamp for the
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united states. this is what keeps guys like me in business. you're urging patience in public. in private you're writing things like the goose egg memo. do you see the disconnect between the public and private statements? >> no. there's no disconnect at all. >> reporter: in private you're much more unhappy with what the system is doing. >> once you're satisfied and comfortable in a war, you lose. >> reporter: the bush administration certainly wasn't satisfied with just going after osama bin laden. even before the bombing of afghanistan began, it was secretly planning to take out saddam hussein. when did you first talk to president bush about going after saddam? >> oh, i think it was in september. >> reporter: before the first u.s. boot is on the ground in afghanistan. >> he called me into the oval office. he said do you have a war plan? for iraq?
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>> reporter: as he was gearing up for war the secretary of defense was engulfed by a personal crisis. his son nick was losing his own battle with drug addiction. >> tough. he was disappearing for weeks at a time. he had just shown up. is that how it was? >> i think that's right. it's a painful process. >> reporter: you know, this is the thing. i have to ask you this because this shows people something so different about you. nick made it to rehab but just as u.s. forces were storming back, rumsfeld's wife joyce nearly died. >> she ended up with a perforated apen diction.
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she was being poisoned. >> reporter: the way you write about her in the book you thought you might lose her. how does that work? 15 hours a day secretary of defense, war going on. >> people were risking their lives. you simply have to pay attention and i did. early in the morning i would see her. >> reporter: you would see her early in the morning. >> very early. >> reporter: how long did that go on? >> days. >> reporter: do you think it affected any of your decisions? >> i don't know. i don't know. look at the view. spectacular sight. >> reporter: the rumsfelds now spend much of their time on their ranch near taos new
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mexico. they began dating in high school but went their separate ways in college until he launched a pre-emptive strike. >> i just simpley didn't want to get married but i didn't want her to marry someone else. it was one of those things so i caved in and asked her to marry me. fortunately she said yes. that was 56 years ago. >> reporter: 56 years of high pressure, high profile jobs. as a congressman, white house chief of staff, and secretary of defense. not once but twice. are you consulted on big decisions, professional decisions? >> i'll give you an example. like should i go back to the pentagon again and be secretary of defense? >> reporter: for openers? >> he didn't have the nerve to even tell me about it for two hours. he's afraid of me basically. >> reporter: she's not taken with his celebrity. but there was a phase when he
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was a rock star. >> a rock star. then the minute... i mean, if you think that phased me, it didn't at all. because you know it will end. and then he'll.... >> reporter: which is what happened starting in the spring of 2003 after rumsfeld recruited former state department official paul bremer to run the occupation of iraq. he worked for you. >> he supposedly worked for me. he really never did. >> reporter: it seems like he almost just blew you off. >> we had given him written guidelines as to what to do and said let's get an iraqi face on this. let's get iraqi leadership going. bremer didn't want to go fast. he was highly critical in his book about the iraqi people suggesting they weren't capable of managing a three-car parade. >> reporter: on top of that the military commander sanchez was the most junior lieutenant general in the army and had a scandalously undermanned headquarters. >> i raised a dickens about
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it. he went through a long period with a seriously understaffed command. >> reporter: it was a set-up for failure, and rumsfeld was in charge. you are responsible for the occupation of iraq. >> supposedly. >> reporter: there's a presidential directive saying you are responsible. you have a command which is not up to the job. you have a civilian authority in iraq not really taking your guidance. >> and not working closely with the military which is unfortunate. >> reporter: why did you stand for that? >> you have to cut 'em some slack. you have to assume he knows what he's doing and work with him. he's there on the ground. >> reporter: then in april 2004 the abu ghraib scandal with its still shocking photos broke. rumsfeld offered to resign twice, but the president said no. do you think it would have
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been better if you had insisted on resigning? >> i think so. >> reporter: how would that have made things better? >> well, it would have been a stronger signal to the world that we didn't accept that kind of behavior. >> reporter: did you feel it was your fault? >> no. >> reporter: you were responsible but it wasn't your fault. >> sure, exactly, um-hum. >> reporter: finally in 2006 with iraq on the verge of all- out civil war, the president told rumsfeld he had to go. >> it was hard for him to do that, to come to that conclusion. of course i felt the same way when i had to fire someone. i didn't like it either. he said are you okay with this? i said absolutely. >> reporter: is he responsible for what went wrong? we all were responsible, he says. we all agreed. i love america,,,,
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remember these? boom boxes. jumbo size music makers from a time gone by. big as they were, they were portable. they had a handle. serena altschul now with a blast from the past. ♪ >> reporter: if you were listening to music in the '80s, you might have been hearing it out of a boom box. a very loud boom box. maybe too loud. can you turn that down a bit? thanks. that's better. big stereo speakers, a tape deck or two and lots of heavy-d batteries. boom boxes were first introduced in the late 1970s so instead of listening at home, you could take the beat to the street. >> it meant that you were like a walking juke box, if you
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will. so you had music and, you know, i guess in the i grew in brooklyn so it was a cool typical fun thing. everybody would gather around it to hear that cool music. >> reporter: artists and hip honest pioneer remembers the sound of the city. how important is the boom box? >> the bass was important to the boom. that's where the boom comes from because the popular music, as we came from, you know, funk, disco and then hip hop, that bass was important and getting a good clean boom boom base meant a lot. >> reporter: in the early '80s hip hop was still in its infancy. it wasn't on mtv, and you could hardly hear it on the radio. but through the boom box, you could listen to songs often dealing with urban decay and racial injustice. songs like "the message" but grand master flash and the furious five. ♪ ring my phone and scare my
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wife when i'm not home ♪ ♪ double digit inflation can't take the train to the job. there's a strike at the station ♪ >> those stories weren't be written or being published in poetry or mainstream publ dagss like that. what better way than to communicate a message through sound which has been done through the history of music. the boom box as an image represents community. it represents defiance. it represents an outgoing nature. it represents i need to be seen, paid attention to. and defined. >> reporter: photographer has his own collection of boom boxes. their images and stories are documented in his new book, the boom box project. >> you hear stories of back in the day like on the beach and all listening to their own boom boxes. they all tune them in together and like, you know, get that same song going so that it's like a whole democracy of
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sound. >> reporter: of course not everyone wanted to join the sonic community. >> we need a spot that we can sit back and enjoy something other than a lot of loud music. >> reporter: the boom box had its detractors, a sentiment popularized in the 1986 film star trek 4, the voyage home. but it was too late. sorry, mom and dad. the boom box was everywhere. >> the boom box is borderless. it wasn't just an inner city thing. it extended around globe. it was wherever people wanted to listen to music. whether it was a beach cafe, in a mechanics shop, in an artists' studio. >> reporter: today the boom box is regarded as a symbol of rebellious spirit and remains a pop culture icon. and though it is still seen, it's no longer heard. looks like the big bad boom
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box got drowned out by the little bitty walkman. the boom box was on the wrong side of history. getting bigger as people were plugging into smaller and smaller devices. so small nowadays they fit in the palm of your hand. >> and so this ability to be in your own little bubble and hear music, you know, still get great sonics but just right into your ear as opposed to everybody else's, it was good tore some people and bad for others. >> reporter: and though it might be gone, it's always important once in a while to hit pause. and then rewind. and pay respect. >> osgood: up next the salt from the earth. ,,,,,,,,
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>> osgood: this winter they may want to update that classic advertising slogan for salt: when it rains it pours. as our seth doane explains, when it snows it pours. >> reporter: it's a wintertime weapon against ice and snow. sodium chloride or salt is nature's foil to slips, falls, and skids. you know, the ones that sleed to lawsuits. the salt used to melt ice on the roads comes from a mine deep beneath them. >> this will give you illumination while you're underground. >> reporter: to see for ourselves the cargill company invited us to their cleveland mine. strap on safety equipment for the five-minute elevator ride. how far down are we going? >> about 1800 feet. >> reporter: that's about a third of a mile? >> yes. >> reporter: into a sprawling salt mine below the city of cleveland. light from our cart pierces the darkness as we wind our way through a labyrinth of
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salty corridors. this is considered a big salt mine. >> this would be one of your larger ones. >> reporter: bob is our guide. he's worked in salt mines for 20 years. and is cargill's cleveland mine manager. we traveled for more than 20 minutes until we're deep under lake erie. >> the walls, the floors everything is all salt. everything you see is salt here. >> reporter: it's estimated there are around 100 miles of roads and tunnels deep inside this mine. it's almost like an underground city but everything is covered in salt. when you look your lips you can even taste it. as many as 50 people per shift work in here. this giant equipment is assembled below ground and extracts salt by first drilling into it. this guy is pumping the walls here full of a thousand pounds of explosives. . it's blasted in the middle of the night. and then workers scrape salt
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from a 25020-foot high cavity. it's part of a 100-foot thick layer of salt formed 400 million years ago when an ancient sea dried up. is the this the same salt we would have on our dinner tables? >> yes it is. it's only processed differently. >> reporter: the salt is collected in front end loaders and carried on conveyor belts to be processed and hoisted to the surface. down here, this could be considered a good winter. they've added a sixth day to the workweek just to keep up. >> we're mining salt today to put in trucks and rail cars tomorrow. >> reporter: well over 600 trucks are filled each day in the winter. in a rough winter like this one, around 18 million tons of salt is scattered on u.s. roadways. that's enough to fill one million trucks. but that salt, which eats into paint jobs and keep car washes busy also winds up in sewers and streams.
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>> i think it's definitely something we want to keep an eye on. >> reporter: in connecticut scientist john morrison with the united states geo logical survey keeps track of salinity levels for the state highway department. >> they want to balance public safety with the environmental concerns. >> reporter: he worries that too much salt can harm or even kill fish in streams and rivers. which is why at the mchenry county illinois department of transportation, mark devries the maintenance superintendent uses an organic mixture that includes beat juice. that helps the salt adhere to the road so they can use less of it. >> what we've always been trying to do is really push sensible salting using only what is needed. >> reporter: this winter the need has been plenty. just imagine, there's still more than a month until spring.
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>> i'm 75 now. i think i finally figured it out. >> osgood: next trumpeter herp alpert, a life in harmony. it's all yours. e fro, kate: well, i'm shopping for my first car. gecko: nice! i do hope you'll choose geico and save a good bit of cash... curtis: what color is the car? i bet you'd look great in a blue car. kate: no...actually, i'm torn between a fuel-injected inline-6 and a higher torque turbo diesel. gecko: that's quite a quandary! umm, i mean of course you could save either way. curtis: yeah but is one of them blue? cause i'd go with the blue one. anncr: geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance.
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>> man: delivering a 200-pound ice sculpture means i don't have any margin for error. one wrong turn, and i could end up unloading a puddle of water. >> gps: turn right ahead. >> man: so i make sure i have the right guidance to get me exactly where i need to be. it's the same with taxes. turbotax has a unique gps feature that guides me step-by-step. automatically double-checks along the way and even lets me talk to a tax expert so i'm never alone. which helps me know it's done right and get to my maximum refund, guaranteed. >> try turbotax online now. you don't pay unless you're satisfied with the results. ♪ >> osgood: herp alpert's trumpet has been his horn of plenty for nearly half a century now. among other things it's won him eight grammys. with tonight as grammy
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ceremony just hours away herp alpert plays host to russ mitchell for the record. ♪ >> beautiful cloud formation there. >> it's like a picture. i mean it really is. >> reporter: if you've ever wondered what it means to be living the good life, consider herp alpert. >> it's pretty magical. i must admit. it's like an endless backyard. why, we can see russia from here. well not quite. >> reporter: since the early '70s the famed trumpeter's home has been six stunning acres on the beach in malibu, california. >> this one is not in bronze. most of the other ones are in bronze. >> reporter: he designed the house and gardens himself. he has his own recording studio. and all those beautiful scull-
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tours? herp alpert originals. >> i'm intrigued with what makes something engaging to look at? i'm looking for rhythm. i'm looking for motion. >> reporter: but let's put all that aside for a moment because any story about herp alpert has to begin with a horn. ♪ for a generation of listeners the sound is unmistakable. ♪ the latin flavored smooth jazz of herp alpert and the tijuana brass. miles davis said you hear three notes and you know it's you. where does that come from? >> it's just the way the sound comes out. one of my teachers used to tell me, hey, man, you're just playing a piece of plumbing. that's how he described a horn, a trumpet. ♪ >> reporter: that piece of plumbing, has served him well.
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six top ten hits. eight grammys. his unique south of the border sound selling more than 70 million albums. quite an accomplishment for a shy jewish kid from east l.a.. >> my father was born in russia from a little town outside of kiev. my mother was from the lower east side of new york. i'm not hispanic. i know a lot of people think that i am. >> reporter: you're not hispanic. herp alpert is not his pan you can. the tijuana brass? >> no. >> reporter: he picked up the trumpet at age 8 and never put it down. but he didn't discover the sound that would make him famous until his mid 20s while attending a bull fight in mexico. >> tijuana had world class mat a dores. and the trumpet section in the stands they would announce the different programs, the different events in the bull fight.
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i got kind of chill bumps from all that stuff. i tried to translate the feeling of those afternoons to a song. ♪ >> reporter: the lonely bull was a top ten hit in 1962 and with the money it brought him alpert and a friend jerry moss decided to produce the next album themselves. alpert and moss formed the now legendary a&m records. ♪ during the next three decades, a&m would release more than 30 herp alpert albums. ♪ one "whipped cream and other delights" was as popular for the cover art as for the music. >> she was covered in shaving cream. >> reporter: the fantasy. >> i know.
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♪ you say this guy, this guy's in love with you ♪ >> reporter: then in 1968 he had a number one hit as a singer. ♪ this guy's in love >> reporter: a popular tv show the dating game used his tunes as its theme music. >> what do your good friends call me? >> reporter: he even had his own prime time specials. meanwhile a&m records was growing into a powerhouse handling some of the biggest names of the era. cat stevens. ♪ ride on the peace train . >> reporter: peter fraferp ton and janet jackson among others. but there was one band herp alpert discovered that was closest to his heart. >> well i signed the carpenters in 1969 or 1970. ♪ you walk by > it was alpert who convinced
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karen and richard carpenter to record the song that would make them super stars. ♪ close to you >> when that song happened all of a sudden i turned into a genius. ♪ and decided to create a dream come true ♪ >> reporter: "close to you" was of course a smash. but the carpenters' career would end in tragedy with karen's death from anorexia at age 32. nearly 30 years later her memory still haunts him. >> i loved karen. she was a wonderful lady. she was... every time i think about her. it seems so unfair. she was great. >> reporter: do you remember the last time i saw her. >> yeah, i do remember the last time i saw her. the irony is she never realized how great she was. she never really accepted the fact that she really had it.
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>> reporter: by 1989, alpert had had it with the music industry. and when giant polly gram records made an offer he couldn't refuse, he didn't. alpert and moss sold a&m for a reported $460 million. it came out okay. >> it came out okay, yeah. >> reporter: what's the secret? >> the secret? the secret to a happy, long marriage? >> communication. >> reporter: since then alpert and his wife of 37 years, singer lani hall, have been doing, well, whatever they want. >> laughter. romance. >> reporter: that's where the magic happens. >> sometimes magic happens here. >> reporter: alpert paints. and sculpts seriously. he's had gallery shows. if you'd like to buy what you see? >> from like 200 to maybe 300,000. ♪ all the leaves on trees are
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falling ♪ >> reporter: herp and lani had it made and they knew it so they decided to start giving back. in 1988 they established the herp alpert foundation. so far they've given away more than $100 million promoting education in the arts. >> welcome to our home. our musical home in harlem. >> reporter: one of his most recent causes is new york's harlem school of the arts, a neighborhood fixture since 1964 last spring hard times forced the school to shut its doors. 3,000 miles away, alpert read about it in the newspaper. >> herp woke up one morning and saw the headline that the school was going to close. he said that can't happen. they wrote a check for a half million dollars. just out of the blue. >> reporter: charles hamilton is the school's chairman. >> without herp alpert, this school would be closed today. we owe a great debt of thanks to him for that.
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>> do you like jazz? oh, good. >> with your foot, that's hard to do. >> i am so blessed. and i just feel compelled to pass it on. this is what it's all about. it's just been very fulfilling. just walk through this facility and talk to the people involved it's chilling for me. i know this sounds a little corney, but i get it. i dig it. >> reporter: no matter where his interests take him, all roads lead back to the trumpet. herp and lani have just released a new cd and are heading out on a cross country tour. so if you want to know what herp alpert has been up to since his heyday so many years ago, he's been playing music, painting, sculpting and helping others fulfill their dreams. in other words, living the
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crave an iron-fisted strongman. and it's helping to topple media portrayals that per it yat those stereotypes. men like mubarak often use the stereotypes to ensure the silence of western allies. in tahrir square a blogger friend took me to my first protest in cairo in 2005. he returned to egypt for the revolution. also marching was an egyptian american friend i met here in new york. they all did me proud. from tech savvy young people to businessmen to scientists and farmers, thousands upon thousands joined pro democracy demonstrations that told mubarak and the entire world something americans... (no audio) yes, we can too. mubarak tried everything to push them back but they served him notice. we're not scared of you anymore. he sent thugs, water cannons,
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tear gas and still they came out. more than 300 died and hundreds more were injured. still they came and just as importantly the demonstrations were filled with chanting peaceful. by toppling mubarak they've shown fellow arabs that it's possible to bring about change through non-violence. now it's sexy and cool to be an arab revolutionary. what an intoxicating message for a part of the world where the majority is younger than 30. and now the entire region is captivated by our freedom rally. the baton started in tunisia which handed it to egypt which is now ready to hand it to the next candidate. who's next? ? this is from 1779. >> osgood: ahead for the love of valentines. the problem is, you could have plaque along your gumline
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>> osgood: roses are red, violets are blue. how many valentines are enough for you? one valentine is a treat. how about more than 10,000 of them? each a rare gem. a victorian era valentine in the shape of a fan. a lace paper cut with intricate details. a rotating valentine that changes colors. >> i started the collection in the early '70s. it just seemed like a fun thing to do. and i had no idea that it was going to take over my life and that valentine's day was going to be as major a part of my life as it is. >> reporter: nancy rosen a retired new jersey nurse is no ordinary valentine enthusiast. whether hand made or
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manufactured you might say every piece in her collection has been acquired with love. >> i think that you can't collect romantic things unless you're a bit of a romantic yourself. >> reporter: no matter how new or old it is each valentine is an expression of timeless affection. >> this is from 1797. miraculous. >> reporter:. >> osgood: like this hand made valentine that says. >> the ring is round and has no end. so is my love for you my dear wife and friend. >> osgood: this classic civil war era valentine is in a style known as the soldier's tent. >> when you lift the flaps of the tent you see the soldier at his desk writing a letter. and then in the background you see the woman that he must be thinking about. they would usually have a motto on the front pasted on. frequently that motto is love protects. >> osgood: this one appears to be a simple letter. don't be fooled. >> it's torn from the fly leaf of a book.
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and the gentleman three times he wrote a poem about valentine's day being tomorrow. and he signed it edward sangin power hill 1684. that's the earliest known piece in america anywhere. ♪ valentine >> osgood: for nancy rosen the value of her collection goes far beyond its physical beauty. >> i've become attached more to what surrounds these objects, the story, the fingerprints of love on every piece. the people who made them. something so important to these people that they save them and cherish them so that i could have them and i'm obligated to share it with other people. for the next generation as well. charles roses are red, violets are blue. tokens of love lasting and true. now we head to bob schieffer in washington for a look at what's ahead on face the nation.
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good morning, bob. >> schieffer: thank you for the sweet introduction, charles. we'll be all about cairo this morning. we'll go there for the latest. we'll also talk to egypt's ambassador to the united states and republican senator john mccain. >> osgood: thank you, bob schieffer. we'll be watching. next week here on sunday morning.... >> let the hacking begin. >> osgood: social studies. harry smith with the social network's jesse eisenberg.
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the crowds are getting smaller in cairo... as egypt's new military leaders make a sweeping new announcements overnight on the future of egypt. some signs that the crowds are getting smaller in cairo. we have the latest coming up. a body found in central valley canal may finally end the mystery behind a high profile kidnapping. and a very big night for the music industry and perhaps a bigger night for a veteran blues man from the bay area. it is 7:30 a.m. on sunday february 13th, thanks for joining us i am annak


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