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fascist, a demagogue. and a candidate who's becoming his top rival. >> what do you think of ted cruz. and the front-runner takes us behind the scenes of is the campaign headquarters only on "fox news sunday." then a new fox poll on who's leading in iowa, just 50 days before the caucuses. plus world leaders announce a climate deal. we'll ask secretary of state kerry whether it will hurt the u.s. u.s. economy. also rahm emanuel apologizes for how he handled the police shooting of a teenager. the protoasters are still calling for him to resign. our sunday group on whether the mayor can hold on to his job. and our power player of the week, finding new ways to treat terrible san diegos, all right now on "fox news sunday." we'll have our in-depth
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moment, but first a new fox poll which shows there's a tight battle for the lead in iowa. among likely caucus-goers, senator ted cruz stands at 28%, trump at 26%, with the the poll's margin of error. marco rubio and ben carson are the only other candidates in double digits. when the results are nair aroed t cruz's lead over trump expands to seven points, 32% to 25. still, when ilwhat reps are asked who is likely to beat hillary clinton, 32% say trump, far more than pick rubio or cruz. i sat down with donald trump to discusses his campaign and his explosive comments. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you. >> top reps met in washington
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possibility of a brokered convention to block you from being the gop nominee. your reaction to the idea that members of the establishment, some members are talking about trying to stop you? >> i think they're making a big mistake. i think i'm the one to beat hillary. your own poll said i beat her rather easily. i think they are rather kidding themselves. the "des moines register skgs i'm sure that poll will be negative. >> kidding themselves, what? >> i'm going to win. i'm not one of these other guys that go down. i don't go down. my whole life has been about winning. i'm going to win. >> you say you make break your pledge and run as an independent if the party doesn't treat you fairly. when you hear about leaders talking about a brokered convention, when you hear about the new york gop, some people saying let's throw him out, do you have a warning for gop
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>> look, i understand what they're going through. i wasn't supposed to be here. i was a member of the establishment seven months ago. i gave $350,000 to the republican governors association. i'm not supposed to be doing this. you see i'm supposed to be on the other side writing checks and having people do whatever i want, puppets. >> what do you say? >> i'm sorry i did this to you, but you've got to get used to it. it's one of the problems in life. now, i'll seal whether or not i'm being treated fairly. i want to run as a republican. i'm a conservative guy. i have great ideas. i'm going to make our country great again. right now our country is a mess, so i think they'll be very happy. i think if i win in two years after i win, i think we'll have the happiest people in the world, okay? but i understand -- chris, i understand where they're coming from. this wasn't supposed to happen. they were supposed to pick a
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puppet, where they control them 100%. this wasn't supposed to happen. >> some of the things as you said haven't made people happy. you say the muslim ban is about security, not about religion, but you would block all foreign muslims. that's 1.5 -- let me just finish. >> get. >> -- 1.5 billion people from coming into this country. are you saying all of them are potential security threats? >> we have people flying airplanes into world trade centers. we have people shooting people in california like last wean. we have big problems that we don't understand. the muslims have to help us figure out this tremendous hatred there. there's tremendous hatred. where it comes from, i don't know. >> i think here's the point -- i think people would understand it if you were basing it on countries saying don't let people in from syria or libya, war areas, but --
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>> but there are 200 million muslims in indonesia. >> i've done that also. >> there's a canadian businessman who is a muslim. >> there's a sickness. they're sick people. there's a sickness going on. there's a group of people who are very sick. we have to figure out the answer. the muslims can help us figure out the answer. >> here is what speaker of the house paul ryan said this we're -- >> this is not conservatism. what is probably today is not what this party stands for, and more importantly it's not what this country stands for. ryan says you would violate the constitutional guarantee of freedom of religion. >> look, i like paul ryan. very, very weak on illegal immigration, big on amnesty, very, very bad on our southern border, let people pour in. it's not the kind of thinking we need. we need stronger thinking than that. i like him, he's a nice person, but we need stronger thinking
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i want the muslims to help -- i'm a very smart person. i knew there would be a storm, but we need the muslims to help us figure it out. >> this week you've been called a bigot, a fascist, a demagogue. i looked up the word demagogue in the dictionary a.ened it says a public officials who speaks spore based on people's fear or prejudice. >> not me. it's the opposite. i want to make our country safe. in fact, i want to add to it, make america great again, make america safe again. it's not safe. we're living in fear. i'm not creating the fear. people are living in fear. i have friends who don't want to fly in airplanes anymore. okay? look, there's a problem. you don't have to admit it, you never will, because you always want to be politically correct. your father would have admitted it, but you're catching your
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we'll do it together. but look, look, there's a fear out there. >> let's talk practically about how your plan would work. how do you find out if they're muslim? do you ask them? >> no, you have a surveillance system and check things, papers, documents, and you go through a process, which we don't do well right now. do you know in syria i hear they're making false passports? i have heard that isis -- and i'm pretty good at this stuff, chris -- in syria right now they have people making false passports for the migrants and it's isis making the passports. we have people coming in through the migration, coming into this country with false passports. now, i'll tell you why. it's got to stop. we've got to get tough and we've got to get smart. you say this is temporary unless we figure out, yew quote, what the hell is going on. >> it's temporary.
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>> but you call on our leaders in washington losers. >> i didn't say losers. i said they're stupid. losers is not a strong enough term. >> okay. so under those circumstances won't this take donald trump years as president to sort out the good muslims from the bad muslims. >> i know the muslims. i'm partners, they're friends of mine, they're great people. they have to help us. you have -- everybody knew what these two were going to do. >> they have pipe bombs sitting on the floor, ultimate mother knew, the neighbor news, the one guy who bought the rifles. the run person said maybe racial profiling. he didn't want to be a racial profiler, so people are laying dead, good people, great people. i think it's disgraceful. we need help. we have to have other people turn people in. once they're radicalized, it's too late.
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we have many radicalized in the united states. we have to do something about that. let's turn to the campaign. you lead in almost all the polls, except for a couple in iowa where ted cruz is lightly ahead of you. this week ted cruz apparently told some supporters that he questions your judgment to be president. what do you think of ted cruz? >> well, do you know he said it behind my back, somebody taped that conversation. he said it behind my back. that's okay. i don't think he's qualified to be president. >> why not? >> because i don't think he has the right temperament, the right judgment. >> what's wrong with his temperament. >> the way he's dealt with the senate, where he goes in frankly like a bit of a maniac. you never get things done that way. i built a phenomenon business, i have some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world.
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and scream and call people liars and not be able to cajole and get along with people. he'll never get anything done. that's the problem with ted. >> most of the so-called experts are now saying maybe trump wins the nomination, but you'll still bet swamped by hillary clinton. among women, 21% have a favorable view of you, 62% unfavorable -- >> here's your problem. >> can i just read -- >> no, no, i think this. you're quoting one poll, because there are other polls where i'm very favorable -- >> but not among all women. >> excuse me. excuse me. we wanted to ask about a "usa today" poll which shows his hype -- >> you released a poll, donald trump against hillary clinton, and i win by four points.
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it's not a quinn pillipiac or whoever it is. on fox and roger ailes pays for a poll. in a -- >> trump is right. there was a fox poll showing him beating hillary clinton, it was a month old, not two or three days. are you too divisive? >> i think i'll win the hispanics, i employ many, and i think i'll do great with women. one, i'm a leader. i'm not hillary clinton. she has no strength, no stamina, everything she does is theatrical. oh, donald trump said this. he -- actually it was interesting. i watched her last night. it looks like she practices in front of a mirror, donald trump says i think he's dangerous. i'm dangerous. she's the one who caused all this problem with her stupid
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look a what she did with libya, syria. look at egypt. we don't back any of our allies. she was truly, if not the -- one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country. she's killed hundreds of thousands with her stupidity. >> what do you mean she's killed hundreds of thousands. >> she was secretary of state. obama was president. the team -- two -- of course, look at what happened. the middle east is a total disaster. she traveled back and forth. look at the problems. look -- as an example -- iraq, total disaster. they got us out badly. total we spent $2 trillion. wounded all over. look at libya. look an benghazi.
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she'll take her friends' call every time. she doesn't have the judgment. she doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be president. she will be a terrible president. i think -- finally let's talk money. should congressional republicans pull policy to keep the government funded? if so, what issues are worth risking a government shutdown. >> if you had leadership you wouldn't have to talk about a government shutdown. one of the things i'm so disappointed with the republicans, we have a budget and then they go to sleep for two years. they start talking about it just before the budget comes up. it doesn't work that way. >> are there policy issues you would shut the government down over? >> i don't want to say. there are certainly things to talk about, but i don't want to say. boehner said we will never, ever
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what happened, he gave away all his cards. he gave obama all of his cards. it's fine to say that, know obama sat back and got everything he wanted so i don't want to say what i'll do. it's called the art of the deal, in all fairness, nobody in our government understands the art of the deal. finally the federal reserve meets this week. should they raise interest rates and what do you think of fed chairman janet yellen? >> she's always been known i always like low interest, as somebody who loves our country, you have to start raising them. she should start racing them. >> why? >> look, i'm getting free money. this is a form of getting free money. i think she's fine, a very low interest rate person. i think she'll raise them. if she does, it will be small and i don't think it will have much of an impact. mr. trump. >> thank you.
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a look at trump tower and midtown manhattan where donald trump lives, manages his real estate empire, and now runs his presidential campaign. trump took us to the fifth floor for a surprising look at the nerve center in this campaign? >> we gutted it out and we have a great location, 57th and fifth. >> this is your campaign headquarters? >> it is. there is another space, but this is it. >> i've got to ask a question. headquarters are usually bustling with hundreds of people. >> this is or central headquarters. we have a number of people in offices. there's cory, but we have terrific people, but i'm looking at the money these people are spending. you don't have to spend so much money. i looked at hillary clinton's place in brooklyn. the money she's spending,
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i'm in first place, so here's the story. i spend less mon than anybody else and i'm in first. other person spend 30, 40, 50 million and they're not doing well. who do you want running the country? >> talking about doing more with less. it's time for aural sunday group. george will, syndicated columnist. neera tanden, center for american progress. gop strategist karl rove, author of the new book "triumph of william mckinley, and charles lane from "the washington post." george, how about it? your thoughts about what what donald trump had to stay. >> gene mccarthy, the late senator said anything said in washington three times is a fact. so he sis i'm not one of those others guys, i don't go down. my whole life has been winning. there's tli times, so it must be true.
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them loser. i want, no, no, no, i called them stupid. then he says that ted cruz is now ahead of him in iowa, a bit of a mannian. the gradation is interesting. it's a mannian, because he can't get along and cajole people the way presumably trump can, who calls them stupid. you didn't even have time to get to the latest trumpism that demonstrated his invincible ignorance. he said i will issue an executive order requires anyone who kills a police officer gets the death penalty. how does that work in our system? starting with the 19 states who have no death penalty. if you liked president obama's use of executive power, you're going to love president trump. neera, you have a top
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years. we want to play out in the fox poll clinton has moved out to a big lead among iowa democrats to 50% to 36% for bernie sanders, so i want to ask you about trump's charge that hillary clinton has killed hundreds of thousands of people with her policies. >> well, i think it's an outrageous thing. it's one of the million outrageous things he said. i look forward to a general election debate between the republican nominees, and hillary clinton on foreign policy or any other issues, actually. i mean, i think it's -- it's kind of irresponsible that he has, and as you went through the interview, he doesn't have much to back it up, but that's part of what he does. he attacks every group in america, and i think that's a losing strategy, but so far he's been gaining strength in the republican party.
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>> you concede you'd like to make the republican party the trump party. how much is he hurting the republican party? >> that depends on who the nominee ends up being, but i thought it was interesting when hi came out on a statement every other republican candidate said that's a really bad idea. we saw it in your interview. how do you keep the muslims out of the country? he said we'll use surveillance pap and documents. so the canadians businessman whose passport does not say he's a muslim, are we going to survey everybody in the world to figure it out? he grabs the angst of the american people about a situation and has a good sound bite, but the substance is completely devoid. doing these things, he creates damage to himself. he lives in a different world in which the good polls matter and every bad poll doesn't. if you look at, for example, since october 1st, he says i'm
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there being 12 polls by march 1st, he lose toss her in nine and ties her in one, and beats her in two. she has in the real clear politics average a lead. once you get into the internals, take the quinnipiac poll which he dismissed, if you go into the polls, it reps what you see in half a dozens other polls over the past couple months. -- he can't even get the white voters that mitt romney got to offset his loss in other voters. how serious is the talk among republican leaders that we heard about a brokered convention to stop him and what about ted cruz who in that des moines register poll, which he discredited before he had even seen it. he leads trump by ten points in iowa. >> look, cruz will win iowa. this is not -- this has been building for a while.
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with the fact he's based his entire campaign on i'm leading the polls, therefore i'm the winner. what happens when he loses iowa? here is the other thing going on. i wrote about this three, four weeks ago. what does a brokered convention mean? what it means is nobody arrives in cleveland with a majority of the delegates. that's likely to happen. 28 contests which are all proportional except one, and as a result, carol fiorina will get a delegate out of the iowa. all you have to do is good 3.3%, so you could -- >> a brokered convention is one in which the smoke-filled back room people will get together and cut a deal and something magical will appear. i bet you whoever goes into that convention in the lead, as long as they're close to a majority ends up being the nominee,
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we got this foible from facebook. they write qush why is it okay for jim,carters to stop iranians coming into the country? and why are they attacking trump for trying to keep our country safe? dhuk, how do you answer? >> i why say that's comparing appear also and oranges. it's true, the immigration law gives the president very broad authority. >> the immediate reaction from a lot of republicans and democrats, a lot of learned scholars said, maybe not. >> hold on a second. the law gives the president very broad authority to ban this or that category of people from coming into the country, but that power, like many others can be abused. what donald trump is proposing to do is abuse that power grocery. the contrast with carter is very stark. carter picked a nationality, a particular category of people who carry a certain passport, very easy to identify, and he
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exception, requiring people who were legitimate refugees from ha regime could still enter the united states. donald trump said total and complete ban. it would be as if carter in response to the hostage-taking in iran said i'm banning al shia muslims, because the ayatollah the two cases couldn't be more different. in fact the contrast illustrates how poorly thought out and how overbroad the trump proposal was. quickly? >> constitutionality, the question was when he initially announced that he said american more muslims abroad could not get back in the country. he made an exemption from the military, and then when all heck
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from -- i hate to say it -- being that stupid. the fact we're debating it still on sunday whyshows how much he's driving the republican party. >> it's the media of trump. >> in the monmouth poll, which is well regarded if if you look at the data on repeat likely caucus-goers, trump is fourth. we have to take a break here. up next the new global deal to fight climate change. secretary kerry, and then we'll break it down with the panel. did the agreement go too far or not far enough? what effect will it have? let us know on facebook or
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the #fns. coming up, president obama hails is the global accord to
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>> this agreements represents the best chance we've had to save the one planet we've got. what does it mean for the u.s. economy? will other countries keep their pledges? i'll ask secretary of state kerry next. heart disease. asthma. diabetes. 7 out of 10 americans take prescription drugs. but in the last 7 years drugs prices have doubled. hillary's going to take on the drug companies. require medicare to negotiate lower drug prices. let people buy their prescription drugs from countries like canada at half the price. and cap monthly prescription costs for every american. the drug companies have been over charging long enough. it's time to fight back. i'm hillary clinton
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the agreement is adopted. world leaders from almost 200 countries erupting in applause after adopting the first global agreement to fight climate change. among the deal's key points, countries commit to lowering, then eliminateing greenhouse gas emissions. the goal is to keep global temperatures from rising 1.8 fahrenheit between now and the
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we spoke to secretary kerry early this morning in paris. there are no sanctions. given that there are none, how can can we -- >> there's mandatory reporting, a universal system by which every country, all 186, each of whom have submitted an independent plan, have to report on what tier doing, on their emissions, on the total carbon print. that leg used by one ken to measures against another, and it would be a -- we'll all learn from each other's lessons. i think it sense a powerful message to the marketplace, but one of the reasons there's no enforcement mechanism is because the united states congress would never accept one. it has to be voluntary.
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but we have accepted that, because we believe it's going to move the marketplace, and you see countless new technologies, a lot of jobs being created. i think it's going to produce its own form of oversight. is there anything that's binding, sir, that would force a country like china, which is the world's biggest polluter, to make specific reductions in carbon emissions? >> the answer is, by virtue of the transparency mechanism, which is broadly based, president obama was determined to try to get an agreement that would move the world in the right drens, the president has taken enormous initiative to engage us with other countries, including china and bring them to the table. some countries, chris wouldn't accept the mandatory mechanism. the best thing we can do in an
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thinking, is to do this mandatory reporting requirement. the mandatory reporting requirement has to be updated every five year. every five years, it is mandatory that countries retool their reduction levels in order to meet the demands of meeting the curve of reduction to which they have committed. so that is a serious form of enforcement, if you will, compliance, but there is no penalty for it, obviously. if there had been a penalty, we wouldn't have been ability to get an agreement. we did the best we could to set the world on a new course towards energy independence, alternative renewable energy, towards lower carbon footprint. greater health, greater security, and frankly the president i think deserves enormous credit for his outreach to china, putting the two largest emitters, and two
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set an example to the world. i very much down we would have had an agreement at all if president obama hadn't initiated the effort with china and undertaken his own climate action plan in the united states, which has now seen the united states reduce our emissions more than any other country in the word. that gave us great credibility here. that part is what is driving people's commitment to make this work. a couple times, mr. secretary, you've talked about congress wouldn't accept it. the kyoto protocol in 1997 was a treaty, never ratified by congress, but in this case as with the iran deal, it's not a formally treaty, and you're cutting congress out. why? >> well, congress said today it doesn't have to be approved by the congress, because it doesn't
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doesn't have an enforcement/compliance mechanism. so we did exactly what congress said we had to do, but it's a plan that can work. everybody in the world feels it will start us down the road. will it get us to the final level? no, but what it will do is send the right message to the marketplace that 186 nations in the world came together to submit a plan, all of them reducing their emissions, most of them already engaged in the effort to do so. that will going to change the marketplace, and we've already seen the curve of emissions are begins to come down. if we can stay on that track, we have a chance to avoid the worst damage of climate changes. mr. secretary, thanks for your time. safe travels, sir. >> good, thank you, sir. good to be with you.
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karl, what's wrong with this agreement? is there anything in it that's useful? >> i was interested in the comment of dr. james hansen, sort of the high priest of global warning, who said it was b.s., because it didn't have targets. it calls no new net emissions, that's the target 2050 to 2080, we'll we'll all by dead and very few people in paris will all be -- the united states has reduced its greenhouse emissions not because of a treaty, but for more than a decade we're a market economy, a wealthy country that can afford to do this, and we have done it. what we are now doing is saying to emerging economies, keep your people poor and in poverty, because you cannot use cheap
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it's ridiculous. i think it made everything there feel good, but i think dr. jim hansen is right, absent compulsory targets, which nobody in the world would accept, emerging economies or the country like the united states, it's the best they can do and now they're trying to browbeat us into -- their economy. i want to talk about the lack of sanctions, a lot of pledges, and one of the concerns is that an open society like the united states will in effect have to keep its pledges, but a much more closed society will renege and there's nothing we can do about it. >> the agreement has -- the provisions are its accountability provisions, so everyone has to report what's happening. >> report, but there's no enforcement. >> right. i think that the issue there is that it's heart for international climate agreement, in part because as kerry said, our own congress to have that
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i think china's a great example. for years, years we heard from people like karl rove, saying that china would never agree to take any action. they're the world's biggest polluter. >> when did i say that? >> in 2008, 2009 -- >> right. okay. wait a minute, china has built about 100 coal-powered plants around the world in the last couple years. >> and china has actually also adopted a cap and trade program in china. >> but still building the power plants. >> that's why this 2k3wr5e789 is important so we can see what is happening around the world. end of the day, 197 countries are a party to this. 180 have come up with their own agreement. i that is something we should
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the rest of the world recognizes that climate change is a threat to the planet and is taking acts. george, you want to pick up on that. sometimes i hear it's 196, 197, anyway a lot of nations, rich and poor, open, democratic, some oppressive, have all agreed to something. does that in some way discredit the climate change deniers? >> no. first, any agreement about any subject involving 190-some nations will be necessarily at a high level of generality, and all voluntary. i don't know anyone who denies that the climate is changing. it's always changing. chris, i'm from illinois, 20,000 years ago, which is a geological blink, chicago was under a mile of ice.
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the question is, is the world sensibly obsessing about this subject with a billion people in this planet are off the grid, do don't have electricity, and hundreds of millions have an urgent problem, finding drinkable water. >> i'd like to bring you in, chuck, that repeatedly in that interview, at least three times, so it must be true according to the rule of trump, secretary kerry blamed the weaknesses in this agreement, the lack of enforcement on the senate-controlled -- republican-controlled senate, a result of which is once again as with the iran deal it's not a treaty and congress is cut out. >> you know, i think if they had tried to do a treaty something lie kyoto would have happened. there could have been massive republican objection, but some democrats from coal-burning
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spot, people like sherrod brown and so forth. but china and india would never have agreed to anything that committed then in an enforeverible wayenfofrs way. he said three times this gives a message to the markets. i think that's an interesting point, but there's another message going to the markets. that is that the price of oil is $36 a barrel. this thing will be determined based on which signal people out there in the real world actually listen to. this idea is the message for the market is the idea that all of the venture capitalists, all of the big companies will decide, you know what? our future and where we need to make the investments is not in fossil fuels, but rather in alternative energy. >> if i could say one point on that. it's largely through the
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which was done through fracking, which a lot of environmentalists are again. there's going to have to tradeoffs. angela merkel, the person of the year in "time," is also the same person who canceled germany's nuclear power program. that made her probably the biggest contributor to carbon emissions in recent years. if we're going to get these emissions down, we're going to have to embrace technologies that many environmentalists are not comfortable with -- >> companies like solyndra? >> well, i'm enjoying this. i hope you're picking up the subtexts between karl and neera. when we come back, mayor emanuel apologizes for how he handled the issue of the killing
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. no citizen a is heck of alaska class citizen in the city of chicago. in my children are treated one way, every child is treated the same way. >> chicago mayor rahm emanuel's emotional response failed to end protests over how he handled the police sheeting of a black teenager. so let's start with the timeline of events. on october 20th, laquan mcdonald is shot 16 times by a chicago police officers. the mayor is reelected. city attorneys agreed to a $5 million settlement. the city finally releases video and charges the police officers with first-degree murder. karl, that the mayor's office knew about the possibility of a
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the question i have, do you think that rahm emanuel slowed this case down, slow walked it to get past the election. >> i don't know who did it, but i yes, i think people said -- somebody, i suspect not the mayor, but somebody said let's slow roll it. now he's lost the moral authority to lead the. the question is, does he leave? i think it's unlikely. if somebody has will, it's rahm emanuel. chuck, city officials fought for more than a year to keep this video away from the public, even after they had paid a $a million settlement to the family. >> having seen the video, i can understand why they would want to keep it quiet. it shows that their story was untrue. police officers had basically
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that there was a vast cover-up of this obviously unwarranted shooting, and that there's a rot in the police department. you know, rahm emanuel, i kind of agree with karl. this wouldn't be one where necessarily we'll ever find a smoking gun that he ordered a cover-up, but he presided over a department that covered up this horrible event. i think the people of chicago have every right to be doing what they're doing, which is getting out in the streets, so far peacefully, but very rowdy way, showing they're unhappy. i don't know whether iran has to pay for it with his job or not, but the whole rest of his political career will be defined on how he makes this city better. it's got a lot of other problems. it's educational systems, debt, pensions, and he has a heavy load to lift. >> you're being more general about his involvement or lack of
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slow-walk the release of this video. affair it is last year he repeatedly said this video had to be withheld from the public view, because there was a criminal investigation going on. he may get choked up now, but is he getting choked up about the case or about his political future? >> look, i think people have a right to be suspicious of this. it's very damaging video. it was held for a very long time. i completely agree that the real issue here is not just the video itself or what happens on the video, but the number of police officers who agreed to a particular story that turned out to not be true. >> how about the mayor fought against releasing the video for a year coincidentally when he was running for reelection. >> absolutely i think it's totally proper for an investigation. and if the department you see of
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held it for his political campaign, then i think he should be held accountable, but i think that's why we have an investigation, because we actually want to know what the facts are. i think that's why it's important he's supporting this investigation, and i hope it is a speedy one. we should be able to determine this answer relatively quickly. >> george? mr. justice lane says the people of chicago are right to be upset. the people of chicago are the part of the problem, abuse of power and collapse of confidence in civic institutions is a natural consequence of prolonged one-party government. the last republican mayor of chicago was 1931, 84 years of one-party government, and this is what you get. >> what is the connection between police brutality case and -- >> a culture of cover-up, a
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culture of prolonged sense of fin vulnerability. >> much to my surprise, we found out this week there's no mechanism to remove the mayor of the city of chicago, maybe part of this one-partyculture, but one state representative, who happens to be a chicago democrat has now filed a bill that would create a recall system for the mayor, as somebody, lifelong illinois -- how do you pronounce it, illinoisan? >> i they he probably will. it's not clear that the legislature would pass it or that the republican governor of illinois would sign it, because he is counting on for an extraordinarily complicated structural reform, an alliance with his friend -- and he is a friend, rahm emanuel. >> and all the structural reforms have been cast into limbo on this. >> exactly. thank you, panel.
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>> the end point? >> creating products that will hopefully change or improve people's lives. talking about the langer lab, the world's largest boy laboratory on the campus of m.i.t. just think of it as an ideas factory. and langer as a modern-day thomas edison. >> how many biotech companies have you founded? >> 31. >> how many patents do you hold? >> about 1100 issued and pending. >> estimates are about 2 million people have been touched by technologies created by him and his team. >> we've figured out a way to deliver drugs for a long time. people didn't think you could do it. >> langer has been working on
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