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stand in his own defense. we will be at that trial like we are every day outside. give you the latest. thanks for inviting us in your home tonight. that's it for this "special report" fair balanced and still unafraid. "jesse watters primetime" is up next. jesse, do you ever get to a show where you just need a little bit more time? >> jesse: every time kellyanne is on the show. [laughter] thanks, bret. ♪ >> jesse: we begin tonight with a fox news alert. as more details are emerging about the horrific school shooting that happened yesterday in uvalde, texas. 19 children and two teachers were killed in the massacre. these kids were as young as 7 years old. our heart breaks for these families and the entire community. and as we struggle, the process this horrific situation, tonight we are also learning more about the demon who opened fire inside the school. 18-year-old salvador ramos. according to reports, just
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before he went on the kill spree, he had gotten into an argument with his grandmother. ramos reportedly shot her in the face. got in his car, wrecked near rob robb elementary school which where you can see here, grabbed his rifle and headed to the school. and he choreographed his despicable intentions online. just minutes before the massacre, here is governor greg abbott earlier today. >> the first was to the point of he said i'm going to shoot my grandmother. the second post was: i shot my grandmother. the third post maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school was i'm going to shoot an elementary school. >> jesse: we just learned today that an on campus officer did exchange gunfire with ramos before he went into the school. this is ramos caught on camera entering from a back door.
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when ramos got inside, officers say he barricaded himself in a classroom and opened fire. >> he just began shooting numerous children and teachers in that classroom having no regard for human life. just a complete evil person. anyone that is inside that classroom just begins shooting anyone that's in his way. at that point we had tactical law enforcement arrive made up of federal officers, local officers as well as state troopers that were able to make forcible entry into that classroom. they were met with gunfire as well. they were able to shoot and kill that suspect. >> jesse: the round that killed ramos was fired by a border patrol agent in that tactical force. and "primetime" salutes him. salvador ramos was disturbed that's clear. his father wasn't around. he didn't have a good relationship with his mother. she was a drug addict. so he lived with his grandparents and police were often called to the house because of domestic disputes.
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but ramos also had a hard time at school, a former classmate told cnn that he was a loner and bullied a lot because he had a stutter and he wore eye liner. eventually he dropped out. but no one seemed to notice. another teen who knew the gunman told "the washington post" that not long before the shooting ramos' behavior started to deteriorate. they said one day he showed up to the park with cuts all over his face. ramos reportedly said he slashed himself with knives just for fun. the writing was on the wall. this kid needed help. so why wasn't something done about this? his social media pages were littered with red flags. there are reports days before the shooting ramos posted pictures of his newly purchased rifles. according to the uvalde school district, for years they have used social media threat monitoring technology. so what happened? this kid was a student.
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why wasn't he monitored? why wasn't he flagged? we have a lot of questions. but going back to those rifles you he posted on social media. turns out ramos legally purchased them just days after his 18th birthday may 16th. his grandfather was interviewed by abc. >> did you know that he bought those weapons? >> no. like i said, i don't like weapons. i cannot be around weapons. >> jesse: the grandfather can't be around weapons because is he an ex-con. you are getting a sense of what the family dynamic was, aren't you? so ramos kept quiet about his gun purchase. but he did do it legally. so, of course, the left wasted no time politicizing this tragedy. they are using it to try to take away your guns. biden had an opportunity last night to comfort the nation to give us strength during this difficult time. but he completely missed the moment and lurched into partisan warfare. >> we have to act and don't tell
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me we can't have an impact on this carnage. i spent my career as a senator and vice president working to pass gun laws. we can't prevent every tragedy. but we know they work and have positive impact. when we passed the assault weapons ban, mass shootings went down. when the law expired, mass shootings tripled. >> jesse: biden is not telling you the truth obviously. according to a 2016 study, quote: assault weapons were involved in four of the 18 public mass murders before the assault weapons ban. four of the 16 public massacres during the assault weapons band, and nine of the 38 incidents since the assault weapons ban. so banning assault weapons had no impact on mass shooting. also, joe biden controls the house and the senate. there's no stopping him and
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chuck schumer from bringing an assault weapons ban up to a vote. they won't do that though because they know it's going to fail because not every democrat senator is for it. and, by the way, assault weapon is just a made up term. so this is the same old argument democrats make every time. in their minds, the only way to stop evil psycho paths from committing crimes, is to take away constitutional rights from law abiding americans. or, in other words, just do something. >> we're elected to do something. >> we can do something about it. >> if we do not do something. >> do something to stop these shootings. >> to do something, something. >> jesse: "primetime" has some ideas about what that something is because none of those people do. and it doesn't involve destroying the bill of rights. we need to start making changes that will actually make a difference. here's the "primetime" plan. first, we need to harden our schools. they are soft targets for
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killers like ramos. we have $100 billion in covid relief money that can be used to put up fencing, install security cameras. hire guards. active shooting drills need to happen on a regular basis. we need to do a better job of protecting these kids. andrew pollack, whose daughter meadow was killed in the parkland shooting, said it best last night. >> when you hear politicians, whether either side they are -- either side they voted to send 40 billion to ukraine and we can use it here in this country. americans are suffering you, know. look at what happened at this school. it really angers me because i don't want to hear that we don't have budget to protect our children. that's not right. >> jesse: we also need to get to the bottom of the mental health crisis in schools. there needs to be counselors in every school paying attention to students. flagging odd behavior. noting who is having a hard time at home and get the kids the help they need. we're spending all this money hiring critical race theory
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consultants. how about hiring some school therapists instead. they can i.d. a school shooter and maybe get them the help they need. but if we are really going to make a bit of difference on the inside of schools, we need to pay closer attention to what's happening on the outside of schools. i'm talking about social media. how many times have we heard that these crazy shooters left online footprints? tech companies need to come up with a system, an algorithm. they can easily detect and flag when somebody posts homicidal threats like i'm going to shoot up an elementary school. and the community has to get more involved. parents, friends, pastors, neighbors, if you see something, say something. some loaner is walking around wearing all black cutting his face and police are showing up at the house constantly, it's time to get involved. we also need to start institutionalizing people with psychiatric holds. because if people can't function be in society, they need to go
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somewhere else. these are common sense solutions that need to be considered. enough is enough, senator ted cruz represents texas and is on the judiciary committee. all right, senator. you heard the "primetime" plan. what are we going to do about this? >> well, jesse, listen, you are exactly right. i will say the entire state of texas, the entire country is grief-stricken. what we have seen the face of evil here in south texas. it is horrific. the kind of monster that walks into an elementary school and executes 19 little children, there are 19 families right now that are experiencing the most horrific and unimaginable agony there is. nightmare of every parent. two more families. >> the families of two teachers who heroically gave their lives. enough is enough. this is horrific. so, look, i agree with you, we need to do something. but the something is not the
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empty political posturing of people like, you know, beto o'rourke who shows up and tries to turn it into a political event instead of a briefing with the police about a horrific mass murder that just happened. there is something we can do is we can pass legislation. i was listening to what you were saying, jesse, i have introduced legislation that would do much of that. in 2013 i introduced legislation that would spend $300 million on federal grants to harden schools to make them safer to make them more protected. the democrats filibustered that legislation. i have introduced legislation to save schools like this elementary school behind me can get federal grants to harden their security to put in bullet proof doors. bullet proof glass. to say put in armed police officers to protect kids. $1.3 billion in federal funds that are available again the democrats blocked a vote on it. and i got to say this is frustrating here. this mass murderer came in
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through an unlocked door in the back of the school. the exact same way the mass murderer came in to the school in santa fe just outside of houston. i was there that horrible morning. i sat at round tables with the parents and families how to make schools safer. one of the things that earn agreed is don't have all of these unback doors. one door into and out of the school and have that one door armed police officers at that door. if that had happened. if those federal grants had gone to this school, when that psycho path arrived, the armed police officers could have taken him out and we would have 19 children and two teachers still alive. we need to do something but it's not empty political posturing it's acting and acting strongly to keep our kids safe. >> jesse: you mentioned beto o'rourke crashed the press conference today. a total disgrace. humiliated himself. i want to pray that for the audience and you can react. i know you were there. >> sit down.
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>> you are out of line and an embarrassment. >> after el paso. >> sit down. >> you are doing nothing. you -- this is totally predict. >> sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line. please leave this auditorium. >> jesse: so you were standing right behind that whole action. what was going down in the room when that went down? >> look, i was shocked. we were going through a briefing, listening to law enforcement about precisely what had happened about what the next steps were, and it was disgusting. he astrod to the front of the room and tried to turn it into a political rally. i guess his campaign is flailing. is he going to lose. but, you know, just after you ended that clip, the mayor of uvalde, he turned to beto and said you are a sick son of a bitch because to take something have you got grieving families. you have got a community that is broken to pieces and to try to
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politicize it and turn it into a rally the way beto did, it was really -- i have seen a lot of crass behavior, that was embarrassing and it was -- it was disgusting. >> jesse: you have to read the room better than that, beto. so, before we let you go. do you think there's any chance you can get any sort of legislation through the senate to harden these soft targets, these schools? is there any chance to put anything in action right now or you think it's just a lost cause with the senate the way it is? >> look, i hope. so i'm going to keep trying. i'm going to keep fighting. i can tell you every time i stood up to fight the democrats literally filibuster. they block a vote in 2013 i introduced legislation called grassley cruz. which targeted felons and fugitives and those with serious mental illness. it directed the department of justice to do an. >> audience: did it of federal convictions to make sure felons
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are in the database it corrected the department of justice to prosecute and put in jail felons and fugitives who try to illegally buy firearms. that vote in the harry reid democrat senate i got a majority of the senate voted in favor of grassley-cruz but the democrats filibustered. they demanded 60 vote. they defeated it because they wanted to go after law abiding citizens instead of stopping the bad guys. we need to stop the bad guys. >> jesse: senator ted cruz our hearts go out to you and everybody in the great state of texas. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> jesse: up next, senator marco rubio on what in american culture could be contributing to these mass shootings. right back. ♪ claritin provides non-drowsy symptom relief from over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens, day after day. feel the clarity— and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear.
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>> jesse: there is a crisis of disturbed young men in our country. they fall through the cracks of society and oftentimes land in the dark crevasses of the internet. instead of seeking love and acceptance or simple human interactions with people in their community, they seek approval from other lost souls online. sometimes rationalize and take their hatred out on the innocent people. the stark rise in mass school shootings is apparent. there have been 14 since columbine killing 169 people. many want to blame it on guns. but americans have been legally armed since 1776. it's important to note that over the last few decades, we have seen the collapse of the nuclear family, divorce rates have skyrocketed, if there was ever a marriage at all. and fathers have left the picture. out of the mass school shootings where 10 or more people were killed. most of the shooters didn't have a dad in their life.
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it's one of the few things that the shooters have in common. church attendance is down in america. and covid has forced young americans into isolation. and we don't even know what kind of damage social media is doing to the brains of young americans. but the media and the politicians don't want to talk about that. they are to object saysed with the how, the weapon used, instead of the why. what brought the person to a place where they wanted to kill children? and how our society is missing what is happening right before our own eyes. it's important we ask these questions and look into the cultural factors. marco rubio is a senator from florida who joins us now. senator, what do you think is in play here? it can't be all about guns? there has got to be something else? >> yeah, i mean i think the introactually touches upon it. it's not the how but the why in the sense that these are people
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who want to harm people in a mass scale and the instrument they use in many cases are guns. but that sentiment of wanting to hurt people is the one we need to really focus on. i don't know if there is a blanket for every single one of these. i'm certainly not schooling just or socialist but i have read a lot about these things because i want to become informed of the one thing i can tell you is we do have tools available for risk assessment. one of the ways secret service protects is presidents the no not so much about the physical protection alone they are able to profile and identify people that they believe pose a threat to a president or auto leader and are able to go to them and prevent them from acting. that same system that is able to identify that that risk assessment protocol exists for things like mass shooting the question becomes can have you tools in place to identify and intervene before people take that next step? and oftentimes that's difficult to do because in the case of a school, for example, we have built up a culture in many places where we don't want to criminalize 16 and 17-year-olds. we don't want law enforcement hanging around the school campus
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and stigmatize these people. many shootings las vegas being one of the exceptions guy still don't note too much about the motivation behind that terrible tragedy others are people that didn't just snap from one moment to the next. we will learn more about this murderer but we know about the one in florida. we know about the one in other places. and these are people that, for a period of time, are headed in this direction and there was nothing in place to catch it and stop it from happening before it got to that point. >> jesse: that's interesting your secret service analogy because you are right. they send these letters or they make these threats. and then the secret service will pay them a visit. and knock on the door and they will say hey, mike, what's going on? how are you feeling? and then even when the president goes into that city they have a whole list of people that they go check on. you are not going to go anywhere near the event, are you? you're not supposed -- who would that look in school? is this something that you have tried to bring up in legislation? and have the democrats agreed with that. >> well, we have and actually
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there are programs in place that fund that and we were able to do that and continue to fund it everywhere since. we led that earth effort after parkland. look it has to be multi disciplinary. input from all types of places might be law enforcement interaction combined with what a school counselor oar teacher is see organize family member or parent is reporting. all of these things come into a central location instead of being bifurcated it's a useful tool and one we should use more. unfortunately someone out there right now that will be the next school shooter because they are watching this stuff on tv and it's going to inspire them to act. a teenager thing. >> jesse: i think you are right. you create a little threat matrix for a school district that identifies people based on a number of factors and then you just -- you are more aware. i think that's really smart. i would like to see that thank you so much for coming on "primetime" and thanks for everything you are doing for the state of florida. and for the nation. >> thank you. >> jesse: let's turn to congressman tony gonzales who represents uvalde, texas.
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again, my -- our hearts break. we are so sorry that this happened. tell us what you're thinking and what you are feeling and what the community is feeling and is the community doing any better than they were doing yesterday? >> yeah. thank you for having me on, jesse. you know, i spent 20 years in the military. five years in iraq and afghanistan. and this moment reminds me a lot of war and there's a portion of war when you are always in the red zone, you are just go, go, go. it really hasn't sunk in yet. i think that's what the community is feeling. almost the sense of shock and i think this will happen for a few more days that the adrenaline will keep them going and then after that, then the traumatic experience will settle in. and that's when this community in particular need the resources. i grew up in a small town 38 miles from here. 500 people in this town. uvalde, everyone knows everyone.
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pro-law enforcement community and everybody is hurting extremely hurting in a couple days. >> jesse: all right. is there anything that we are learning that's new about this shooter the family dynamic? because it seems like a really dysfunctional situation. >> yeah, no, i think you see these -- a lot of times these shooters they act out well before they ultimately do the final and we need to get ahead of that you know, last year when i visited with the county judge here in uvalde, who is a democrat. and i visited with the mayor who is a republican, and i sat down with the sheriff they asked me for one thing, boy to if i can give you one thing would what would that be? tony, we need a mental health facility that's something that we have been working on the county set aside some land so the land is taken care of we appropriated $2 million towards that. so i think that's the area that we need to focus on. >> jesse: that would be amazing if you can get an institution up
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pretty soon. because god, do we need that thank you so much for joining us and, again, we're so sorry about what happened and we really appreciate your leadership down there. >> thank you, jesse. >> jesse: welcome to davos where the world's elites come up with the worst ideas ever. senator rand paul is next. ♪ ubrelvy helps u fight migraine attacks. u do it all. one dose of ubrelvy, quickly stops migraine in its tracks within 2 hours. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. ask about ubrelvy, the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine. ♪ with my hectic life, you'd think retirement would be the last thing on my mind. hey mom, can i go play video games? sure! ...after homework. thankfully, voya provides comprehensive solutions, and shows me how to get the most out of my workplace benefits. what's the wi-fi password again? here... you... go. cool, thanks.
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>> jesse: hundreds of gas guzzling private jess took off this week as billionaires from all over the world jetted off to davos switzerland for the ritzy and glamorous world economic forum. a week long event for the ruling class to talk down to the rest of us. and it's not for everybody. it's an invite only event. and once you do get in, they divide you by class. you get a white badge with a blue line if you are rich enough. you just get a white badge if you are married to someone
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important. or if you are just a part of someone's entourage you get an ugly green badge, you are not good enough. they keep elise together and they have their own little police state to make sure these people are focused on ruling the world. if you are not from cnn or the "new york times" and you show up uninvited they will probably arrest you. and it's all headed up by a guy name clawsh schwab who is pretty much running a one world government here. he kicked off the week by saying the future is theirs not yours. >> the future is not just happening, the future is built by us by a powerful community as you here in this room. we have the means to improve the states of the world. >> and the way they start is by tracking you. if you go deep in the weeds in what these people are saying at this place, they are openly scheming up some of the craziest plans you will ever hear of like tracking your carbon footprint.
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>> we're developing, through technology, an ability for consumers to measure their own carbon footprint. what does that mean? >> that's where they traveling? how are they traveling? what are they eating? what are they consuming on the platform? so, individual carbon footprint tracker. stay tuned. >> jesse: you heard it, the one world government wants to keep tabs on what you eat and where did you go all because john kerry is a little mad that your cheeseburger is wiping out part of the population. >> people forget greenhouse gases are pollution. and 15 million people a year die because of the quality of the air around the world. we are dealing with a crisis here, folks, that's a crisis made by human beings. >> jesse: maybe they should take their own advice before jetting off across the world on those private jets and emitting all that carbon but to them they have more important things to
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focus on like preventing the next pandemic since it worked out so well last time. >> if it comes 10 years from now, we should have far, far better diagnostic technology that is being able to scale up every country within a month to diagnose their entire population. we are a little distracted right now so getting the debate going is happening slowly. >> jesse: a lot of people are distracted by inflation, food shortages, you know, real problems. but the ruling class at davos says don't worry. it's all a part of the plan. >> we need to accept that there will be some pain in the process. the pace that we need will -- will open up for missteps. it will open up for shortages it will create inflationary pressures and they really need start talking about that that pain is actually worth it. >> jesse: if you have all the money in the world the last thing you have to worry about is inflation.
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it's our problem. not theirs. they are busy ruling the world. and shady george soros says if we don't make their ideas a reality, civilization is done for. >> pandemics and climate change avoiding nuclear war, maintaining global institutions have to take a backseat to the struggle. that's why i our civilization may not survive. >> jesse: believe it when i tell you these people don't care about any of us. they are just a bunch of globalists hanging out and coming up with too many bad ideas. rand paul, kentucky senator and he joins me now. should the american people be scared when the richest people in the entire world get together swanky conference and hatch ideas about how to make our
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lives better. >> if they really cared they could have ridden with me. i was on a plane this morning i was a category on southwest airlines and, you know, that's something. it wasn't a private jet but they could have saved, when you are on a private jet they are spending five times as much as a carbon footprint. if they really cared about that they could ride on commercial airlines but they aren't. they are elitists. but the other real danger here that's even more danger than all their phony caring about carbon footprint. the real danger is this look how bad your government is in a country where you get to vote for these people. this would be a government, a world government where you don't get to vote on anybody. this is everybody's worst nightmare. the bureaucracy that we have trouble in our united states because we don't get to vote on them we vote indirectly. can you imagine the one world bureaucracy of all these elitists and their private jets that would rule our country and we wouldn't get to vote? so i'm dead set against this and they used to call people that talked about one world government used to say it's a conspiracy. we would always say no, it's in
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their mission statement. they say it at every meeting. that's what they're for. but lack of sovereignty means lack of freedom, that means lack of responsiveness and it's completely antithetical to everything our country stands for. >> jesse: i don't want to put down bill gates and these guys they do a lot for charity. but when you hear them just kind of dismiss inflation or you know, you will have to go through some pain in order to kind goff with my idea. you know, the american people hear that and they think come on, man, you are not serious, are you? >> well, it's not only intensivity because they have never been to a grocery store and have no idea what things costs it's also now that we have a set of political spectrum out there saying it's caused by greed. if you were in a 3rd grade democrats, i would give you a failing grade if you told me inflation was caused by greed. is that true dumbest explanation, the most implausible and lacking all facts that someone would try to put forward.
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inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply. increases the demand, it's done because we spend too much money. the federal reserve printed up to borrow it. it floods the economy and drives prices up. if you don't understand that they will never get any better and my prediction is it's going to get a lot worse before november. >> jesse: what do you think about this tracking technology. these liberals are already stressed out enough, senator, imagine when they find out like everything they do is killing the ozone? they will go crazy. they will start yelling at us. >> yeah, privacy is not much of a concern for these kind of people. so not only do they want to track you for your carbon footprint. the w.h.o. has announced you know, they're forming a treaty. it's going to be for the next pandemic. in the next pandemic it's not going to be a washington based mandate on vaccines or a washington based social distancing or mask. it's going to be an international one. they actually want to track
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everybody with a qrs code. i think that goes beaten neath the surface right back here but i'm not sure how they get it in you. it's no laughing matter. it's very worrisome. wherever they talk about it they have absolutely no concern for privacy and you are exactly right. they don't care about the individuals. they don't people like us. they have never been on a bus. they have never been on southwest airlines. they have never driven a car. most of them have never even driven their own car. these are not the kind of people we want telling the rest of us what to do. >> jesse: senator rand paul from kentucky flies commercial. let it be known. thank you so much, senator. isis tried to kill george bush using the southern border. we'll explain how after the break. ♪ ♪
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♪ ohhh, ohh oh oh ♪ ♪ ahhh ah ♪ ♪ la la la la la la la ♪ ♪ la la la la ♪ ♪oh, i want to thank you show my gratitude♪ ♪ my love, and my respect for you ♪ ♪ i want to thank you ♪ >> jesse: illegal aliens across south america have gotten the president's message loud and clear. come on in, the border is always open my casa sue casa. they are not the only ones that got the message.
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isis from iraq named shah who are ashihab shihab. their mission was to assassinate former president george w. bush. think who are has been in the u.s. since september 2020 on auto visitor visa. isn't that nice? and he filed a claim for asylum in 2021. of course. think who are believed that bush was responsible for the death of iraqis during operation iraqi freedom and he wanted revenge. so he spied on bush and took video of the president's family home in dallas in february. as well as casing the grounds of the george w. bush institute. shihob needed help he schemed to bring in four fellow terrorists from mexico and smuggled them across the southern border. it apparently worked for him in the past. he claimed to have smuggled two members of the terrorist
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organization hezbollah into the u.s. in 2021. this is according to the fbi. he is now in custody and has been charged with aiding and abet ago plot to murder the former president and immigration crime. fbi director christopher ray was asked today about national security threats and suspected terrorists crossing at our borders. >> i have been down to all of our field offices that have border crossings as part of their area of responsibility. i have had cbp folks show me around to i can see firsthand what they're dealing with they have a heck of a challenge on their hands. and we, through our joint terrorism task forces in particular work very closely with our dhs partners to try to bring the counter-terrorism dimension to the threat. >> jesse: mike pompeo is the former secretary of state and former cia director. secretary, how serious of a plot
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was this and how far along was it? >> jesse, it's great to be with you. let me just take a second to express my condolences to the families down in texas who lost their loved ones, we are praying for them. we can see that if you have an open southern border, almost a million released into the country during the biden administration already. the greater risk that you have a national security threat come across that border. i don't know how many of those million who have already come in, may be plotting something like this man in ohio was plotting as well. it's a very real risk. it was something that we were concerned about in the trump administration. it's one of the many reasons we were diligent. we were serious about building the wall and securing our southern border. a porous open border like director wray said today presents an enormous risk. the fbi did a good job they stopped this one. i'm not only worried about presidents being killed or former presidents. i'm worried about every american's safety from illegal immigrants who come here with the intention to do harm whether they are terrorists or just violent criminals as well.
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>> jesse: when you were secretary of state under the trump administration, did you see evidence of suspected terrorists coming across the border? because that is the affidavit clearly says they have already smuggled hezbollah terrorists across. >> jesse, i can't say everything that i know, but i can tell you this: we saw that those plotting and planning to use the avenues of a approach into the united states. when we were tougher on the border they knew it would be tougher to get their team. in we saw that this fellow in ohio came in on a tourist visa. we made sure, too, that we were working as diligently as we could to vet anyone coming into our country from any place, right? there are multiple vectors come through, airports tourist visa. come as students but coming here unlawfully, coming here illegally across our southern border gives them clandestined way to get inside of our nation. >> jesse: do you think this is going to wake up joe biden into securing our southern border? this is an assassination plot against 43. i mean, that is about as serious as you can get.
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>> jesse, i doubt it i hope i'm wrong. i wish that i was wrong. i'm routing for a strong sovereign southern border but i haven't seen any evidence the progressive left wants open borders it appears that president biden is captured by them or at least not willing to exert any political capital inside his own party to actually secure our southern border. i don't think this will change their border policy at all. i hope that they allow now the cbp and the fbi to do the hard work they need to do to at the very least try to make sure we don't have terrorists coming across. with this many folks, this much drug activity. this many cartels, jesse, a very difficult task. >> jesse: yeah, it is. we just showed the picture of this plotter. i mean, he looks like a fool. hopefully this wasn't one of those things where the fbi kind of coaches this guy into making this thing. but, we'll just take it at face value. secretary pompeo, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. >> jesse, thanks for having me
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♪ ♪ >> jesse: comedians are under attack. first it was chris rock, we all know what happened there. >> data, i love you, g.i. jane 2, can't wait to see it. [laughter] that was a nice one, okay. i'm out here -- [laughs] oh, wow! wow! >> jesse: then dave chappelle got attacked onstage by some wacko with a knife. >> hip-hop history. >> jesse: the attacker claimed he did it because he is bisexual and was triggered by his comments about trans people.
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if comedian ricky gervais doesn't walk out, he could be next. he is the latest target of the woke mob after he made comments about trans women in his latest netflix special "super nature." >> women. [laughter] not all women. i mean, the old-fashioned ones. the old-fashioned women. you know, the ones with wounds. love the new women -- i know the new women, they are great, the new ones we've been seeing lately. the ones with [bleep]. as good as gold. why shouldn't they use your toilets? the latest, they are latest, look at the pronouns! what if you rapes >> jesse: joining me now is kyle man, editor in chief of the babylon big. so, kyle, do you think ricky should learn tae kwon do? someone might rush him on stage, he could be next. >> you absolutely have to be ready as a comedian these days.
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you not only have to be able to tell jokes, but you have to have your cobra car karate moves ready to go for sure. >> jesse: i mean, we are now like protecting comedians with more security than we are protecting our schoolchildren at schools. but in all seriousness, you know it's coming for them because the netflix employees are already walking out probably. >> yeah, absolutely. and what a sad commentary on the state of our society when you can get attacked for a joke. yes, jokes tell truth and yes, jokes are going to speak truth to culture that sometimes doesn't believe in truth any longer but at the same time, they are jokes, they are meant to point out absurdity, they are meant to make people laugh. they are meant to be enjoyed, and as a culture, cancel culture is going to come for comedy first because the people who control all the cultural power can't stand being mocked, and it's a really scary place. i was the we have been banned
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from twitter, we've been locked out from twitter for two months because we told a trans joke as well and it is certainly a scary place to be is a culture. >> jesse: if you were in an audience and some comedian was making fun of white guys with goatees, would you bum-rush the stage? i mean, what you think it is about a certain segment of the population -- it could be anybody, not just trans, but anybody that just flies off the handle if they get made fun of? >> it definitely exposes insecurity and it exposes something about your worldview where you aren't secure in what you believe. you know, i'm a christian and wreckage a base tells a lot of jokes about christians, pretty brutal ones sometimes in my first instinct isn't to get him canceled. it's you laugh about it, you grapple with it and you have to say ouch sometimes at some of the jokes that he tells, but we have to be able to laugh at ourselves and it's weird that so many different segments of the
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population can laugh at themselves but than that one time he tells a joke that comes after him -- comes after them, and they have to attack him. >> jesse: i laugh at myself constantly because i am a total idiot. but i am secure in being an idiot and that's what's good. thank you so much. tucker carlson is up next. always her member, i'm waters, and this is my world ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." in the past ten days, two separate teenage boys have committed horrifying massacres in public places. on may 14th, 18-year-old murdered ten shoppers in a grocery store in buffalo and then yesterday 18-year-old killed 19 small children and two teachers at an elementary school in texas. both were very obviously

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