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house. democrats now weighing in on tim scott's big bill. we expect a new conference at 3:00 p.m. in georgia on the rayshard brooks case. we'll have that live. a big day. >> sandra: we'll be watching all of it with continuing coverage on the fox news channel. >> fox news alert, a showdown brewing on capitol hill over police reform. senate republicans unveiling their proposal today with majority leader mitch mcconnell saying expect a vote next week. the bill seeks to boost federal reporting for police use of force and encourages choke hold bans and increased police transparency among other goals. senator tim scott leading the effort. >> too often we're having a discussion in this nation about are you supporting the law enforcement community or are you supporting communities of color?
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this is a false binary choice. the answer to the question of which side do you support, it's i support america. it's not a binary choice. this legislation encompasses that spirit. >> that bill is set to contrast with house democrat sleeping police proposal with a vote expected for that next week in the lower channel. chad is live on capitol hill with the latest. chad? >> hi, there. it will be a challenge to get democrats and republicans on the same page, as you mentioned the house of representatives is scheduled to vote on their bill on the 25th of june and as we speak right now they are riding that bill in the house judiciary committee to underscore the president's interest in this, mark meadow, white house chief-of-staff just showed up on capitol hill. he indicated the bill written by tim scott is a good foundation. karen bass is the lead sponsor of the bill in the house. she said this morning she thought there was some common
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ground between senator scott's bill and her piece of legislation but she does not like the executive order that was written by the president yesterday. listen. >> i'm not sure the people are there. when we have people crying out in every state in the country and countries around the world, we have to do something significant. we can't do anything symbolic. >> the bill by republican south carolina senator tim scott does not outright prohibit chokeholds. the house bill does. the senate legislation gives financial incentives to local law enforcement to follow federal law. house democrats also want to create a database to track rogue officers. senate republicans said they may not start the debate until mid-july. there is now an effort to begin that debate next week. johns hopkins university professor points out it's an election year and republicans are mindful of demonstrations in the streets. >> i think it's very likely, particularly for republicans in
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districts that are tight, in districts that tend to swing, in places where the margins tend to be pretty closed, i think they are probably paying attention. >> i'm going to give you a vocabulary term. there is a motion to proceed. mccoverage is doorbellly daring democrats to filibuster to block debate on the motion to proceed on senator scott's bill. they will put some parliamentary things into the motion and begin debate. the onus will be on democrats on whether or not they will let that bill start. they have to get 60 votes to break a filibuster. melissa? >> chad, thank you for that. this is outnumbered. here today is faulkner, fox business anchor, executive director of serve america pact and fox news contributor maria and joining us today former arkansas governor and fox news contributor mike huckabee and he's outnumbered.
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governor, i would like to start with you. i was heartened by the press conferences that i heard earlier today on television. lindsey graham stood up and said, you know, there is about 70% overlap between these two bills, and rather than making a lot of where they don't agree, that he's harkened by the idea there is a lot of common ground at the beginning of this conversation. what are your thoughts on that? mike: you never get everything you want in a piece of legislation, especially in a political year. it's a political year. nobody is going to get everything. so what they ought to do is sit down and look at the areas that are common ground and work on that and recognize they aren't going to get a hundred percent either side. i was a little taken by the congresswoman's attitude, karen bass, when she said the president's proposal didn't go very far. it shouldn't. it's an executive order. he can't legislate. that's congress's job. it's not his job to legislate. it's his job to execute.
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to carry out the legislation. so good. he did some things that are important and significant. even van jones, who is certainly no conservative, was very appreciative of the president, and outspoken in his praise for what was done but now it's time for congress to do something that they haven't done in a while. earn their stinking paychecks. sit down and work with each other. come up with ideas that they both can live with and don't play politics with this. if they do, american people are going toe incensed over it. >> isn't there a potential for coming together here, as governor huckabee said so well, it's not the president's job to write legislation but it's his job to lead and he did place a marker throughout and set the tone from the top by stepping forward with an executive order that set the tone for the conversation. now, legislators, you know, in their very title, need to come
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forward and come together on some common ground. do you think they can do that? >> let's hope so. what president trump did was lay out a blueprint of some ideas, and he also was trying to send a message to the american people that it is the government's job to protect you but also a message to assure black americans that we're moving in the right direction to prevent death at the hands of police officers. i was looking at the comments from senator chuck schumer. he said i'm glad republicans have finally joined the debate and put a proposal forward after much pressure from the public and he outlines the differences between the house democratic bill and the proposal from senator tim scott and the republicans in the senate but i just want to point out something in terms of senator scott. after the fatal 2015 shooting of walter scott, a black man in part in charleston, south
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carolina, he did step up and introduced legislation requiring that states that get federal law enforcement grants to report details of all officer related shootings. only 40% of jurisdictions do that now. that bill never went anywhere. it kind ofaway, so this is a man, a senator who has been working tirelessly for years trying to affect change, and to dismiss what people have tried to do is to absolve responsibility of the local and county and state leaders who ultimately bear the burden of really changing the way police forces work. >> maria, along those lines, you know, when chuck schumer or nancy pelosi for that matter criticize republicans on this it's hard to forget that they had eight years where president obama could have stepped forward and done anything on this and set the tone and tried to get
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this ball rolling and that did not happen. isn't there a lot of failure and blame to go around to everyone, that nothing has couple of this so far? >> the obama administration put into place a number of policies, many through executive action, consent agreements with local police departments to try and put some of these reforms in place. the trump administration has rolled back all of those so i don't think we need to relitigate what happened in the obama administration and what went in place two years ago. the extraordinary point is in the middle of an election year where tensions are as high as i have ever seen politically there is a lot of common ground in these two pieces of legislation and there is a lot of common ground in the way these two parties are talking about. we won't all the comments to agree, nor should we expect to but to governor huckabee's point there is a lot they actually agree on for the first time on this issue, and if congress is
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able to walk that very narrow path, and it's going to be hard, this is not a foregone conclusion, if they are able to walk that very narrow path and get something in the next month passed on this, i mean that would be extraordinary. think how little we've seen congress get done through both chambers in the past few years. that would be truly extraordinary. i hope they take this opportunity, but it is going to be very difficult and we shouldn't lose sight of the people on both sides working together to try and actually make it happen. >> i hope the political incentives are in the right place. i hope these lawmakers see it in their political best interest to get this over the finish line as opposed to, it's obvious, we're going to talk about it later but former vice president joe biden has to poke holes in anything that would go through because politically he has to say what's going on right now is unacceptable and i'll change everything.
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i hope he's the only one in that boat. what are your thoughts? >> for him, not that i need to give him advice on how to campaign but i highly suggest that he not be the only man standing on the issues to poke holes everything in. it's the season of sincerity. it's the season of sincerity and it's time for people to get real with each other. i mean, you saw, we referents about members of the house and the senate like we haven't learned about them today. as i thought they were speaking tim scott introducing the nation to a former police officer of 25 years who had been shot in the head, who is helping to lead the conversation among republicans and democrats, because, you know, i mean that would help if everybody could agree on the house, too. i didn't know all that rich detail and i've lived in that state and covered police in that state. but, you know, we're learning about our leaders even more, and
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if mitch mcconnell is right about this, that we have reached a point where now everybody is forced to look closer at these issues, maybe they will. and maybe it won't be about, well what does this give me in my district? i agree with you and marie. look, melissa, i'm not polily about this. boy, it's incredible where we can get to together. >> it's really needed. a seattle business owner says he's disappointed in city leadership after his repeated calls to 911 went unanswered. after someone broke into his auto shop near the capitol hill amidst organized protests. the job officers are doing in the city, that's next. >> they observed the location from a distance. they did not see any signs of smoke, fire, or anything else,
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unbelievable story. seattle's police chief is denying claims that her police department is not responding to 911 calls in the downtown zone seized by protestors. this coming after a call from a local business owner who said repeated calls for help fell on deaf ears. john mcdermott owns an auto shop just outside the so-called capitol hill organized program or chop and says he called 911 more than a dozen times. after the man was burglarized and they started a fire. >> i dialed 911, i'm asking for the police to come.
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the police didn't come. i'm very shaken up. i'm very disappointed in the city's leadership. i'm very disappointed in the lack of police protection. >> melissa: mcdermott says he and his son managed to detain the thief. however, an angry mob of protestors demanded that man's release. police chief says officers did respond to the call and observed from "a distance." and said they saw no signs of fire. >> there is no cop-free zone in the city of seattle. they will respond to other calls and have but they are not going directly into the area. we're following up but it's not to say we just don't show up. >> melissa: so governor, school me. what's the difference between showing up and socially distancing, i guess, is probably a good way to say it, right? >> and actually showing up and helping out. i mean, these cops' hands are tied now. >> harris is the most
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unbelievable thing i heard a police chief say. we got a within a couple of blocks. this, this isn't a protestor. let's establish. when you break and enter and you steal people's money from a cash register and you said fire, that's breaking and entering. it's grand theft and it's arson. those are all three felonies. this is not a protestor. this is a criminal, and this is a person who needs to be arrested by the police who can't do it from a few blocks away. i have never heard anything so bizarre in my entire life. and the man and his son are actually holding the guy for the cops and they said, you know, we don't see it, so i guess it's okay and in the meantime other people are going to let him go. would anyone want to open a business in seattle, anyone want to live in seattle right now if that's the response of the cops? i tell you, this is crazy stuff. this isn't political. this is just plain crazy. >> melissa: marie, when you watch this and the police chief says, it's not a zone that
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police don't go into. but they can't see inside that building. what if something were going on inside that auto shop. they couldn't see it from the outside. effect actively they aren't able to do their jobs. it is a zone where they are kept out. that potentially could be dangerous. what do you say about all of this? >> yeah, i think it's a complicated situation and clearly when it comes to this one auto shop, there is some information we don't know. the police said they did respond and didn't see a fire so there seems to be a little bit of confusion but the broader point is the seattle police have a tough challenge here trying to figure out how to deal with this autonomous zone. they had police officers in there sort of negotiating or talking to the leaders to figure out a way -- >> melissa: the police chief says the zone doesn't exist. >> yeah, i mean, this is why it's so challenging. the tone and tenor inside the zone at many points from press reports seems sort of like a festival, right? and so -- but sometimes it's
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been different so the police are trying to walk a fine line. services between providing essential services and trying to figure out how to move forward with many of these people who are peaceful. this is a challenge. i will say this is complicated. it's a challenge, the seattle police have a very tough job in front of them to try to figure out how to deal with it. >> you know, i tell you where my mind goes to if police are going to be told they can't breach a perimeter and just look for smoke. there could be anyone, in a domestic violence call, you can't see in the house. those are the most numerous types of calls that police say are the hardest to get into, because you can't see everything. so a whole lot can be going on beside, well this individual, this criminal, as governor huckabee correctly said, just set fire to the place. we don't know all that's going on in this because we can't get eyes on it. >> what we do know is the governor of that state is doing
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jack all about it. it's his constitutional right and duty to maintain public safety in this area and i look at this small business and i always think it's the small business that gets trampled, that gets no help. in the meantime the politicians are whistling trying to act like it's the summer of 1969, and where are the giant corporations in all of this that are headquartered there? why aren't they stepping up to put an end to it? i'm talking about some of the biggest companies in the nation, in the world, starbucks, amazon, microsoft is located nearby. and then they are always, the rich liberals. see, they are protected. they have professional people protecting them so they can like spout off from their heavily guarded towers. in the meantime it's the small business owner struggling to survive. >> it's interesting. marie, you're right. it is complicated.
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i get that. i just don't want anybody to get hurt in the process while they figure it out. joe biden's campaign criticizing trump's executive order on policing while facing backlash himself over how the presumptive nominee has responded to the police protest movement. plus, google. facing new accusations of censoring conservative websites. now some on capitol hill are taking action as the publisher of one of those outlets is speaking out. >> we're not intimidated by this. we have the ability as an organization, the connections, obviously, to senator cruz and others, we know who will stand up for us.
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. >> melissa: joe biden's campaign ripping president trump's executive order on policing as
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" "in suffolk." more than 50 progressive grassroots organizations signing a letter saying biden's proposal to spend $300 million on community policing is not the answer. the cop's program has directly contributed to the increased size and scope of policing in cities across the country and the subsequent stream of violence and killings perpetuated by law enforcement on black people in particular. in the organization, black votes matter, telling the "washington post," "it's a slap in the face of black folks. we're in the middle of the largest uprising and protest against policing, unfair and unjust policing and the biggest supporters to your campaign have been black people and you come out and say you're going to reward the police. what message does that send?" governor, i'll start with you, as a politician what advice would you give to joe biden? mike: he's got to be more honest
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about what the cops program was intended to do back in the early 1990s which was to deal with what was, at that time, an epidemic of gang violence. so it was a noble effort but there were some very stupid things built into the old get tough on crime that we saw in the 1990s. for example, one of the dumb things turned out to be really horrible, was three strikes you're out. great applause line at the rotary club if you went and told everybody you're going to be tough but here's the problem. as all of us governors found out, that meant you were going to fill up your prisons, it was going to get real expensive, and you were not going to be able to pay for it and you were going to put a lot of people in prison who didn't belong there. as my prison director used to say we're locking up a lot of people we're mad at instead of the ones we're actually afraid of. that's what has to happen and joe needs to be honest about it. >> what do you think he should do?
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there are a lot of groups that go by that name specifically saying you're not going to get our vote if you don't follow along on these police reforms, and that what he's doing isn't enough. >> well, black voters are the reason joe biden is the democratic nominee. they started the biden wave in south carolina and carried him over the finish line so i think these are important conversations inside my party to be having and joe bide opinion has supported a number of police reforms beyond this one issue related to the cops program and so i think he's trying to put together a holistic look at how we reform police. he's looking at people in the community. he's listening to these groups and he has a number of advisers who are helping him divide better policies. there is the policy side but then there is the tone side and i think many democrats will say to you and many independents actually by polling will say to you, when you look at the tonight vice president biden has set going to black churches, meeting with leaders, listening to them, versus the tone
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president trump has really put forward when it comes to these protests, that there is no contest. joe biden is one of empathy and understanding and trying to do better and president trump is very focused on safety and security, but not as enpathetic with the protestors. that's a fight we're willing to have as democrats. >> right. and harris, that's always the way that democrats pivot when they are struggling on an issue is to say, well, okay, so maybe our guy isn't very good on this but he's better than president trump and when you go that route -- >> that's not what i said. >> you're saying -- this is what you said, and that's what happens -- how do you build on that when the core of your voting is this group that's now dissatisfied. that's a big problem for him. >> i would take it further. that's exactly what you said. and it isn't just, you know -- >> that's not what i said. >> what aboutism, what aboutism, i totally agree with you, i
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totally agree but it's also democrats versus republicans, not just trump and painting with a broad brush the moral high ground from the liberal side but i would say this. joe biden is in danger of being manipulated on the basis of guilt over his crime legislation from when he was vice president and the manipulation isn't going to come from republicans. it's going to come from within his own party. and i agree with governor huckabee. he'll have to be transparent, sincere, there is that word again, season of sincerity, and honest about the black men that were incarcerated. those incarcerations still today continuing to be challenged, about how many. the numbers and why and the sorts of things that were in that crime bill, that piece of legislation, that's tied like an albatross to joe biden. he needs to come clean on that. he needs to say what he would do better and he doesn't have to go to a black church or black gathering or tout his black friends, he needs to tout america and say this is how i would do better and he'll
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probably have to get out of the basement to do it but that's a campaign choice, i guess. >> republican senators unveiling a new bill this morning that would allow americans to sue tech companies for censoring political speech. it comes amid outrage over google blocking right meaning financial blog 0-hedge from its advertising platform and warning conservative sites like the federalist it could get the same treatment because of viewer posts in its comments section. the publisher of the magazine speaking out. >> big tech has an agenda. they want to advance it. and they are going to lean on all of the folks like us who have any kind of agenda critical to them. they are an entity that we have to take a hard look at from a government standpoint and see whether they have been able to get away with things for far too long that no other company could get away with.
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>> so this all started when abc news initially reported that google demonetized both the financial blog and the federalist, which google later clarified was not true. also in that initial report, the news organization suggests it was the one influencing the search engine to punish the two sites, "google's ban on the website comes after the company was notified of research connected by a british nonprofit that combats online hate and misinformation. they found 10 u.s.-based websites have published what they say are racist articles about the protests, and projected that the websites would make millions of dollars through google ads. google blocked the federalist from its advertising platform after the nbc news verification unit brought the project to its attention. so i want to start with you, degan, this is nbc working as an
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advocate against sites that they are calling racist because they don't agree with what nbc thinks, and i would just say zero hedge is something we've been familiar with for a very long time because people who are in the financial journalism business, they follow it, texas reports record jump in covid-19 hospitalizations. we have a live update. that's what nbc news thinks is right leaning. >> well, to just lay it out, nbc news is working alongside a left wing foreign organization, and working with a monstrous technology monopoly to defund, demonetize, and ultimately put out of business, because that's what that does, it's a death nell did you take away the ad revenue. where do they stop? there are a couple of things legally going on. the justice department is trying to at least scale back the
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protections that large technology companies have. they get massive liability protections. essentially can't be sued under a 1996 communications desency act. that was written two years before google was even founded. number one. google gets the liabilities protection but for the commentary, i guess the federalist does not get that liabilities protection because that's why google was potentially going after them and went after zero hedge. but secondly, you've got people on the right and the left. hello, senator elizabeth warren, who wants to break up these large companies. google should tread very, very carefully. the mainstream media like nbc news, we already knew they weren't journalists even more. now they just proved it. >> yeah, i mean, that's the irony and the hypocrisy to me, governor, is they are proving where they stand, and what kind of journalists they are, while
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they are sitting there point at others and saying, you're spewing hate. what are your thoughts? mike: this is why the president calls some, not all, fake news. do they want to be common carriers like the telephone company and provide a platform where people can communicate and be free from the liability? like you're not going to be sued because somebody said something nasty about you on a telephone line because the telephone is a common carrier. but if you're a newspaper or a radio station, you can be sued if you allow things that libel or islander somebody, so if they want to get into this business where they get to decide what gets published, they get sued and they are going to get sued. they need to be sued, and somebody needs to sue the ever livid daylights out of them until they realize they would be better off not trying to dictate what people say and how they say
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it. >> harris? >> i want more governor huckabee. you know, governor. how do we hold them accountable? i guess that's the big question here what does that even look like going forward? or do we even have an option as consumers to try to do that? mike: i think it's ultimately going to be decided by law. the justice department can file antitrust. but at some point legislation would be written that would say, if you're a social media platform, would you like the be treated like a common carrier and provide the platform and other than maybe censoring criminal things, you don't get to decide what you just cut out because it doesn't agree with you. or if you want to do that, and you want to be heavy handed and pick a side and play it hard, then you're going to be subject to the election laws, because if they have to start reporting some of their content as an in kind contribution politically as it should be, they are out of business.
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they are out of business. >> marie, what are your thoughts? >> these are private companies and they have had longstanding policies in place that do not allow for racially discriminatory, racially violent, certainly, racially charged language on their platforms, and these are from comments on these websites that fit one of those categories of racially discriminatory or violent language and it's their choice not to have that language on their platforms and they are private companies and can respond appropriately. i don't want that kind of language on the interstate either. it's a tough like to mark. the line is a slippery slope and that's concerning but i don't want that language on the internet and neither, by the way, should the federalist or the other website either, zero hedge. they shouldn't want these comments on their websites either. >> i guess, i don't know how you sanitize the whole internet, i think you just don't go to the
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websites where they are saying things that you don't like. you just don't visit it. we're all adults. all right. the new york city police commissioner says officers will need to change how they do things in the wake of protests over police brutality. what is in mind and whether it's the right call for the city? i've got great news for veteran homeowners. if you have a va loan, now's the time to call newday usa. their va streamline refi helps you take advantage of some of the lowest mortgage rates we've ever seen. one call to newday can save you $2000 a year. one call can lower your payments by this time next month without verifying your income, without getting your home appraised, and without one dollar out of pocket. it's the quickest and easiest loan newday's ever offered. one call can save you $2000 a year, every year.
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it's powerful, fda-approved to relieve moderate pain, yet non-addictive and gentle on the body. salonpas. it's good medicine. hisamitsu. >> new york city police commissioner shea says changes are coming to the way police officers carry out their duties. in a letter to uniformed members yesterday, he told them police will have to fight crime differently in the current climate which may include performing less street stops while better utilizing data and technology. the commissioner defending the decision this morning. watch. >> we are an organization that adapts. we change. attitudes, laws change. law enforcement, in my opinion, is never static.
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it's always fluid and this is one more change. >> this comes as the nypd has moved to disband its elite anti-crime unit and reassign some 600 plainclothes officers to new roles. police union president patrick lynch sounding off on the decision as murders spike in the big apple. here's what he said, "our city leaders have clearly decided that proactive policing isn't a priority anymore. they chose this strategy. they will have to reckon with the consequences." melissa, i come to you, you live in new york city. i do think it's a little mind blowing to think about how you build community relationships from a distance with technology, but maybe they can school me, not to mention the fact that criminals are listening to this disbanding of the anti-crime unit. wow! >> i mean, i'm very concerned as a resident. a year ago, i began talking about the fact that we were seeing a spike in what they were calling nonviolent crimes or
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just crimes on the subway, attacks, this, that, and the other. is was it has progressed and amplified. stabbings are up, vehicle thefts are up. break-in are up. all of these kinds of things that they said would be the natural progression of letting down on the broken windows policing. i want to believe in commissioner shea and i want to believe that rather than having cops out there doing stops and out there on foot where they are putting themselves in harm's way they can do a good job using technology and using digital surveillance and the like but i have to tell you, you can really see the difference right now on our streets, as bad as things were last summer it's much worse now, and i feel like the trend is just going to continue. >> governor? mike: i think melissa is a hundred percent right. when you don't take care of little things they become big things. new york city has the best police force in the world. almost 35,000 officers.
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47% of which are minority. so you can't say that this is a group of white racist out there trying to crack skulls but over the course of the past couple of decades new york city went from a place you didn't want to go to a police you wanted to go and people felt safe. and it wasn't just the people in times square. it was the people in harlem as well. harlem became -- people wanted to go there and visit there and eat there. you know, now things are going back to the days of david dinkins. why would anyone in new york or ever visiting new york want to go back to a time when you were scared to death to walk the streets even in midtown much less some of the tougher neighborhoods. i don't understand what their thoughts are. bill deblasio makes no sense to me when it comes to protecting the people he's sworn to protect. >> i live in the heart of new york city and i come to work at
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3:00 in the morning every day and it's frightening on the streets. it was frightening today when i was trying to get to work and the problem -- one, mayor dinkins added thousands of police officers. that was the beginning of reducing crime in, what is a great city. the problem is, the bail reform law that was pushed by governor cuomo. there is no incentive for a police officer to arrest anybody because the vast majority of crimes people are just written talking about and put right back out on the street and i'll just remind people that a career criminal with 103 arrests since 2005 including sex offenses, who shoved that 92-year-old woman on to the sidewalk, these are the people who are being let out over and over and over again, with no bail, and it's because the governor and the mayor that this city is not safe. >> you're talking about that huge front "new york post" headline about that 92-year-old woman and 103 for those
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offenses. >> including sex crimes. >> yes. absolutely. marie, we're going to get you on the flip side. we're waiting for the beginning of the white house press briefing, minutes from now, we're told. we'll bring that you live plus the trump administration is now suing john bolton over his soon to be released book. will they be able the block the publication? [ sigh ] not gonna happen.
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>> the trump administration suing former and national excuse adviser john bolton to delay the publication of his book detailing his time in the trump white house. the legal papers filed by the doj say bolton's information contains classified informs and they have determined that information in the manuscript is classified at the confidential, secret and top secret levels. accusing the administration attempting to block a book it deems unflattering to the president. already topping the amazon best-seller list since the suit was announced. marie, i'll start with you. if there is top secret information in there, isn't that a concern? >> definitely. but john bolton has been going through a clarence process on the book for months now, and some of the accusations
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president trump has made about what might be classified just -- they do not hold legal water so clearly the trump administration is worried. reports are that this book paints a very damaging portrait of president trump and his behavior, particularly foreign policy. every time the trump administration fights a book all they do is guarantee more copies of it will be sold. they are the ones who got to it amazon's number one quite frankly because of their action towards it. he shouldn't put out classified information certainly but i think what they think is classified probably, much of it actually isn't. they just don't want the book out. >> so governor, the president got them to number one on amazon but abc is doing their best to help. they are basically doing what amounts to a barbara walteres special on sunday night. it's with martha but he's certainly getting the star treatment on this book and a lot of hype. what are your thoughts? mike: it won't be under oath. he had an opportunity to go to congress and testify under oath
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and he declined. so why isn't he interested in testifying under oath but he's more than willing to go and sit and sell his book? i think it's really sour grapes. he got fired. his policies did not reflect that of the president. though he said they did on tv, it will be interesting to see if they play juxtapose what he's said when he was hired and what he said when he got fired. two different stories, you can't have them both right. i'm disappointed in john bolton. >> yeah. david what about that, democrats wanted him to testify. now he comes out in the book with things that could have gotten the president impeached, won't they be furious that he saved it for profit rather than testifying to it during the impeachment trial? >> maybe they will get to that anger down the road but right now, he's anti-trump flavor of the month. it will be a few days after a few people read this book. this book, though, will get published. it did pass a security clearance
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within the white house and a national security team came in and were throwing up walls. but again, the white house is helping to promote the book. this is better than any book tour that bolton could go on which you can't really do because of the coronavirus across the country so if they really wanted to get people to not pay attention to it they should just be quiet and let it get published. >> yep. very true. all right. a white house press briefing is set to begin any moment now. we're going to bring that you and more on "outnumbered" in just a moment. ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo-hoo! great tasting ensure with 9 grams of protein, 27 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients to support immune health. and nutrients to vif you do, one call to newdayn? can save you $2000 a year. newday lets you refi at today's near rock bottom rates
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i was told to begin my safaspirin regimen, blem. ant to make sure we go home and i just didn't listen. until i almost lost my life. my doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. listen to the doctor. take it seriously. >> governor, real quick, is there an opportunity for america to come together right now and do you think that's even possible at this point? mike: oh, it's possible and we should. we need to. we've got to find the areas where we agree and focus on that
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rather than spending all of our time focusing on the places where we disagree if we do that, we can get back together. i hope there is enough leadership in d.c. to make that happen. >> thanks to everyone. we're back tomorrow. now here's harris. >> you're watching "outnumbered overtime." a lot of breaking news. we're awaiting a white house press briefing shortly set to begin at any moment with new reaction over the growing battle on capitol hill over police reform. republican senators unveiled their legislation a short time ago today requiring disclosure of police use of force and encouraging chokehold bans among other steps. white house democrats remarking up their reform bill which goes further, they say, banning chokeholds outright and overhauling immunity for police officers. gop senator tim scott calling on democrats to support his legislation. watch. >> the nation will allow us to
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