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believe this thing was a fraud. it's coming apart right now. what do you think? follow me @megyn kelly and include the hash tag, # kelly file so we see it. thanks for watching. here's hannity. welcome to "hannity" on this busy news night. the administration is in a complete panic mode tonight as the president's signature piece of domestic legislation crumbles before their very eyesment tonight the leader of the free world was forced to admit what was obvious to many of us. that's failure after years of making this promise. >> under the reform we are proposing if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. if you do have health insurance, we'll help make sure your insurance is more affordable and more secure. if you like your health care
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plan, you can keep your health care plan. >> if you've got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your health insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan. >> if you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. period. >> now we know that was a big fat lie which is why the president said this about people getting all the cancellation letters in the mail. here's what he said. >> i get how upsetting this can be for americans particularly after assurances they heard from me that if they had a plan they liked they could keep it. to those americans, i hear you loud and clear. i said we would do everything we can to fix the problem. today i'm offering an idea to help do it. already people who have plans that predate the affordable care act can keep the plans if they haven't changed. that was in the law. that's called a grandfather clause included in the law.
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today we'll extend that to people whose plans have changed since the law took effect and people who bought plans since the law took effect. so state insurance commissioners can decide what plans can be sold in their states but insurers can extend current plans that would be cancelled in 2014 and americans whose plans have been cancelled can re-enroll in the same kind of plan. >> the president's own so-called fix which is not a fix at all proves it. the insurance industry has they cannot reverse what was done. america's health insurance plans put out a blistering statement in terms of a trade organization that said, quote, changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the
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market and result in higher premiums for consumers, already set for next year based on an assumption of when they will be transitioning to the new marketplace. if you were younger and healthier people the premiums will increase and there will be fewer choices for consumers. additional steps could be taken to mitigate the adverse impact on consumers. now what? what will the hail mary pass do? help the democrats in the 2014 elections accomplish that. joining me now with reaction, steve king. minnesota congresswoman michele bachmann. first of all, we have to get it on the table. this jug just delays the madness. we'll be back here a year from now. >> we are in the same madness sooner. he can't fulfill the promise
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because the insurance companies have to opt in. and the insured need to also opt in. no way that becomes 100% of people get to keep their policy. his restatement of the gra grandfather clause, if premiums went up that disqualified the policies. this is a lot of rhetoric in a desperate president trying to react to democrat push back. the senators went to the white house. the democrats voted with the president on this. this is panic mode for the president of the united states. >> instead of saying, okay, i made the promise. i will keep my promise. the president has delayed the inevitable here. i think it's obvious, but why do you think he did it? >> this is a political problem for the president. this is the political solution to his political problem. it isn't about the people.
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it's about the political problems of the democratic party. people across the united states don't trust one thing the president says now. he told them if you like your health insurance plan you can keep it. the speech he gave today won't allow one american confidence to keep their plan. he told insurance companies you must send out another letter saying your health insurance policy isn't very good. the government has health insurance policies, why don't you look at theirs? if i'm an insurance company , just because the president does a press conference i'm supposed to change what i do because of a press conference? >> wait a minute. >> the president needs to understand congress needs to pass laws.
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not dictate to private businesses you have to do what i say in a press conference. >> they have been preparing for this for years. we have six, seven weeks left in the year and now they have to go back. they couldn't be more clear in terms of the impact. does this result in higher premiums for people? >> it might. the insurance companies looked a long ways into the future. they will dig in strongly on this. i want to reinforce what michelle said. the president has no constitutional authority to extend the individual mandate and no constitutional authority to extend the employer mandate either. the law says they shall take effect and be implemented
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each month after 2013. he has to come to congress on bended knee and ask if he would bail him out. part of what he's doing is accepting an extension of the individual mandate, writing it in by rule. he said he would veto that if it got to his desk. this is a high level of contradiction in his position. it's chaotic. >> so the over wewhelming promi he made, you can't keep your plan. can't keep your doctor. we get the rate shock we have talked about. the reason the president did this is because he doesn't want democrats that have been complaining to him signing onto legislation to vote on in the house which is if you like your plan you can keep your plan act. >> he wants to make sure they get the credit for keeping the
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promise. this is all about the president. his poll numbers are tanking. he wants to ride to the rescue but he won't. they will have a bigger problem because the plan won't be there for the people who already received cancellation notices. it will grow to 10, 15 million. they have a problem. the next problem about to hit is the other problem of the president when he gave a figure to the american people. you will see your premiums go down $2500. he put a number to -- >> per family, per year on average. >> that's right. per family, per year. we'll hold him to that promise, too. the sticker shock is going to be astounding. this is only the beginning. your viewers should have hope. i believe both steve and myself introduced repeal bills to obama care. i think the dream will be
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realized and there will be a parallel private system grow up because the american people aren't going to buy this plate of dog food put in front of them called obama care? >> we'll watch thosely how many democrats vote to fulfill the promise most of them made. tomorrow we'll watch closely. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, sean. >> coming up, not just the american president lied. who else should be held accountable? it's not just democrats. you have been voting all day at fox for the video of the day. this is option number one. >> you know you're in trouble when bill clinton is lecturing you about commitment. that's when it's testy. >> jay leno, always a fan favorite. did he make the cut? also tomorrow night in studio, 10:00 p.m. eastern, a live studio audience edition as we examine the evolution of the obama care era.
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welcome back to "hannity." although the president was the master mind behind obama care he's not the only one who should be held accountable for the crisis unfolding before your eyes. there were many democrats who lied to you, the american people, for years. take a look. >> you can keep the doctors you know and trust. you keep the insurance you have if you like it. if you like what you have that will be what you have when the legislation is passed. >> i'm not going to support a plan that will take away what you have or what you like.
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>> if you have your doctor and you like him or her, keep them as well. >> if you have a doctor now, you have a medical professional you want you get to keep that. if you have an insurance program or the health care policy you want, make sure you keep it. >> i like what i have. would you please leave me alone? the answer is yes. in fact, we guarantee it. >> one of the core principles. if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. >> people who like their insurance and doctors keep them. >> those individuals who like the coverage they already have will be able to keep their current plaps. >> if you like what you have, you can keep it. that's critically important. >> if you have a plan you like, an existing policy you can keep them. >> regurgitating the same lines. the obama care train wreck goes well beyond the democratic party and includes republicans who sat
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by while conservatives like mike lee, rand paul and others led the fight to defund the law. for example, john mccain said it was not rational to think they could repeal or replace it. the maverick senator has changed his tune. >> if they can get a better insurance policy in another state and remove this whole tax incentive for employers to provide employees -- >> that's repeal. >> exactly right. that's total repeal in every other way. what obama care is an experiment in social engineering. >> he said it wasn't rational. where were you then? here to respond from the american center for law and justice, former clinton special counsel lanny davis is with us.
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you're a man of your word. >> you're bad. b-a-a-a-d. >> why? >> whoever did that clip -- >> is a genius. >> clever. >> exactly. >> people can be wrong without lying. >> you democrats are great at regurgitating talking points. you like your plan, you can keep it. >> we believed it though. >> oh, you believed the lie? you're a man of your word. all the people made that promise and now tomorrow in the house of representatives they can keep their word f. you like your plan, you can keep your plan act. would you recommend democrat who is made the promise keep their pledge?
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>> the answer is almost yes, i do. >> almost. >> almost. >> almost yes. almost no. >> i'm not going to say i will vote for something i haven't read. let me give you the point. this is an unusual moment on your program. the democrats have to pull back, reduce the regulations and make sure nobody loses their plans -- >> lanny. >> and take a look at the situation. the requirements were too great. >> wait a minute. obama said today -- >> that's the -- >> wait, jay. obama said -- >> the entire thing. lanny, what you said is the whole thing has to be rolled back. remember when max baucus said it looks like a train wreck? the president announced it today. it's a disaster. the president cannot keep his word on the this. whether you want to argue they knowingly said it or just repeated it, 5 million americans have lost their plans.
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do you think the president said it can go another year so the state insurance companies can snap their fingers and go back? >> he didn't say through 2014. he said into 2014. all he's doing is kicking the can down the road until he breaks his promise. why? this is why people despise washington. he's doing it for the 2014 mid-terms, not because he believes it that's the truth. >> can i tell you the fix? >> keep your word. >> the requirement to increase the coverage levels causes people to lose their policies. the idea was excellent to have coverage for pre-existing coverage and other essential requirements. what we didn't take into account and we made mistakes that have to be corrected is we impose requirements and we have to
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withdraw them. >> 2300 pages of law that nancy employee see said we won't know what's in it until we pass it. now we know. a disaster for the american people. >> here's the deal. the sell was baseded on if you like your plan, you can keep it. like your doctor, keep it. per family per year annual savings of $2500. not true. it will cost $900 billion. not true. everything the president promised is not true. based on the fact that this is nothing like he said it would be, why shouldn't the american people to have the opportunity to put it up for the vote? >> that's what the 2014 elections will be about. the american people have to experience life like every other western democracy in the world but the united states where you
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have access -- >> that doesn't address my question. >> we can fix it. >> the legislation though. it's a disaster. we know it now. here is the other problem. the penalties that go into effect. if you don't have plans that qualify, he didn't say he's debating those. who gave him the authority to do any of this. that's the law. it's a disaster. it needs to be repealed. ted cruz was right. >> we can fix it. one thing the president can do and i have a client here called he can use the private sector website and let people sign up there while the website -- >> they are not. >> was fixed. >> they won't have it fixed by the end of november. won't happen. >> i have no idea. >> here's the long term. all the president has done is delay the inevitable. this is not a fix. it's an obscure term.
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he's obfuscating the issue. everyone was about to lose their plan will lose it in the next year. you and your party will live with your legislation that nobody in america wanted then or wants today. that's your political problem. >> actually, i still believe -- >> and the 5 million will be 12 million. >> access to quality health care. we have to fix the problem of losing policies and breaking our promise. >> just admit that you can't do it. >> sean, we have to fix the problem. the president created the problem. the president's legislation created the problem. the democrats that passed this created the problem. this was legislation that created the problem. >> if you're in a football game but not when it's 20% of the economy. >> jay, i have a legal question. if anyone in the private sector pulled a bait and switch like this -- >> no. >> what would happen?
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>> can you imagine the shareholder losses? >> what would happen? >> let me repeat -- what would happen is they would be asked to fix -- >> they would be asked to retire. they would be fired. >> fired. >> in the wise words of president obama -- >> or prosecuted or both. >> let people keep their policies. >> in the words of hillary, if you like your plan you can keep your plan. >> passed the affordable care act known as obama care. >> we can fix it. >> you can't fix what is unfixable. up next, poll panic for the left in the country. especially with the ratings plummeting. now the gop is surging ahead of democrats with the midterms approaching. we'll run through the numbers next. later at the end of the show we reveal a what you have selected as the video of the day. we'll also have the media mash segment. option two, a deer who apparently wanted to attend class. this young buck broke into an
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disapproving of how he's handling his job as president. other polls now have him in his 30s in terms of approval rating. the number should be no surprise because a brand new fox news poll reveals 50% of voters think president obama knowingly lied when he told the american people they could keep their health care plan. if the fox poll isn't proof enough there is a new poll that reveals the majority of independent voters also believe the president deceived the american people. to sum these up a new gallup poll reveals 47% of adults cannot trust their president. unbelievable. president obama is by no means alone in the obama care disaster. another fox poll shows republicans surged ahead of democrats on the gallup poll. just one mnt ago they were behind. pretty telling. here with reaction, fox news contributor katie pavlic and ebony williams.
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when a majority of americans think their president knowingly lied, knowingly deceived them, how do you recover from that? there is an issue about incompetence. that's the website rollout. when they think the president is a liar, untruthful, deceptive, what does it mean for a president that's still got three years left? >> right, sean. no questions about it. i'm not going to pretend like president obama doesn't have a serious credibility issue at this moment. deservedly so. he stood up and owned it today. this is on him. absolutely. the best thing the president can do, we have heard the term, stop the bleeding. i don't know if he can. he can take seriously the idea of letting people keep their policies -- >> he said if you like it, you can keep it, period. >> there is a new bill he has to
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consider. >> that bill will be voted on tomorrow in the house. >> right. >> the only reason he came out today is to preempt democrats from jumping on the bill. he needs people or the whole thing collapses. >> right. like president obama's apology was not an apology. his fix today also wasn't a fix. when you look at the poll numbers and dig deeper the most interesting thing to me was how young people feel. 35 and under. the people president obama needs to sign up for obama care for it not to collapse even further. 47% of people under 35 want obama care completely repealed and they want them to start over on capitol hill. 67% of people under the ablg of 35 knew millions would lose their health insurance and he said they could keep it. >> he knew. >> absolutely knew. february 25, 2010 with the health care summit in
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washington, told eric cantor, 7 to 8 million people may lose health insurance but it's okay. they will get a better plan. the truth is today he didn't offer anything new. he's setting it up to blame someone else for the problems of people losing health insurance. >> ebony, one of the things the president could have done, he could have supported the republican plan. >> i agree. >> that will be voted on tomorrow. he didn't. it seems to me the only reason he did this today was because democrats put pressure on him to do something. all he did was this was a political ploy. this is why people hate politics and don't trust him and don't trust politicians is because this is a cynical ploy to protect fellow democrats from the are a advantages of what will happen to them in november of next year. that ought to make every democrat mad. >> here's the thing. the democrats aren't lying to the very bad light in which the president is sitting in now. of course -- >> they are in the same boat.
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they voted for it. >> absolutely. many of them got out and spoke the same rhetoric. we see president clinton standing up, trying to allow a space for some democrats to show distance. again, really rebuild credibility among voters. >> if the president today said, you know, i made this promise to the american people. i see because of the way the language and structure has evolv evolved. >> and he said this. i am a man of my word. i keep the pledge. i urge my fellow democrats to vote for the provision if you like your plan you can keep it tomorrow. >> that's the only way to regain credibility. >> he didn't do it. >> i know, sean hannity. people like bill clinic toond other democrats can say it in a different way. >> katie? >> this is the problem.
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it doesn't matter of legislation republicans or democrats pass, what president obama does now saying people can keep their plans. the plans are gone. 5 million people no longer have health insurance thanks to obama care. president obama knew it would happen. now the people can't get the plans back no matter how much rhetoric is tossed around in washington, d.c. 58% of people thought president obama 's apology for people losing health insurance was insincere and that it was for political purposes. if 58% thought it then wait until the polling from his pathetic press conference today when he tried to reassure people that the government is better for them and they don't know the benefits. >> i agree, katie, but america can't afford three years of a lame duck president. >> we can. he should do less. the government should do less. we can afford for obama not to do much. absolutely. >> americans will hurt. >> we'll see. americans are hurt now and they
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are losing their plans, getting rate shock and they can't afford what the government is forcing on them that they don't want. unbelievable. talk about soft tyranny. up next, more on the president's so-called fix which is no fix at all. how it will impact the government and this pon zi scheme that is obama care. we'll get to the questions and answers next. we'll reveal your pick for video of the day. option three, my favorite show "duck dynasty." willy throwing his support behind a candidate. that and more straight ahead. . so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards!
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. there are tw routes to kilometres. the marinery is in motion for both of them. you have to have millions of young, healthy people sign up and pay into the insurance pool.
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you have to have healthy young people sign up and pay in. the government isn't telling us how many of the 26,000 people were young and healthy. if they don't sign up, the whole economics of obama care falls flat on its face because premiums will have to go up for everybody if the young don't pay up. second route, if you allow people to keep the policies they've got and which they like you are taking millions of people out of the exchanges. they will stick with the plan they've got. that destroys the economics of the exchanges. both of those two areas, both of oh those routes are in motion towards the collapse of obama care. it's happening right now. >> there you have it. that was fox business network and the explain of the inevitable collapse of obama care. here with with with much more, our studio panel. fox news legal analyst pete johnson, jr.. jacques degraaf and co-host of "the five" kimberly guilfoyle.
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thanks for being here. >> hi. >> there is a fundamental part of the discussion that there is a reason the president today could not say i am going to keep my promise i made to the american people. as soon as he opens the door, the infrastructure of which obama care is mpredicated on collapses. they need those people in the system. >> then there is no pole in the tent. the whole thing falls apart. it's been a house of cards to begin with. the sad and awful part is they knew it from the beginning and pushed it forward anyway because partisan politics matters more to them really than the health care of americans across the country. if you look now, even if people were to enroll we don't have the numbers to support it but the selection process and everything is flawed. if there is an ability to fix this, that's the problem. he wants to do it unilaterally. >> the president came out today,
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as i suggested earlier and said to the american people i made a mistake. i will keep my promise. it would have gone a long way. goodwill from the american peop people. he can't do it for the reasons kimberly mention spmd this is this is a difficult point. you can't make a bad situation good with good statements. it needs good actions. having said that, this is the latest calamity. we have had debt ceiling, sequestration, the government shutdown and now this, the biggest of all. i think the american people wants competence in government again. honest dialogue and partisanship. you're right. both parties need to stop the rhetoric. >> the president is not going to allow them to fix it. that's the problem. >> jacques is probably one of the most loyal democrats in the united states of america. for jacques not to summon any
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defense for this president, obama care indicates how poorly -- >> you're a democrat, too. >> i am. but i have been more critical than jacques of the administration over the past five years. what obama care has become is the disease rather than the cure. it's a poison in american politics. now we are seeing what happened as a result of it. the assumptions were wrong. it was based on a lie. based on a false premise that was never going to be met. so people were fraudulently induced to say, mr. president, thank you. i can keep my health care coverage. >> i will save money. >> now we find out it was a bald-faced lie. >> so that's a good point. >> i don't accept the premise. >> what premise don't you accept. >> i'm a loyal american. >> so am i.
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i can vouch for you and peter. >> that issue is not in dispute. i don't speak as a democrat. i speak out of concern for the uninsured. that was part of the intent. >> even the cbo said 30 million will be uninsured even with obama care. >> there was a huge number that would be insured under the original. >> kimberly, go ahead. >> this is a very sad day in america that we find ourselves in this situation. now the problem is so many more millions of people had been will be dis eenfranchised and not ha the health care they deserve. it's shameful what happened, it's criminal. the it was a fraud per pech yated against the american people. it's not fixable. >> there is something wrong in our country when you have a policy that says i will take insurance away from these people. it's been taken away. these people are going to get it instead. this has been a redistribution plan from day one.
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the fix isn't a fix. it need as legislative enactment. >> this is a help get democrats elected. >> and they are rebelled saying we won't do this. >> i have to cut you off. thank you for being with us. up next tonight on "hannity" -- >> on health care, how about you go after the republicans who have 40 million people they want to commit to the emergency room. >> mr. obamagasm himself can't help himself. later we reveal your choice for the video of the day. i'm vacillating between willy and jay, jay and willy. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough.
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welcome back.
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time for media mash, our weekly roundup of the ways the main stream immediate i can't put a liberal spin on the news. they have been twisting themselves into knots to cover for the obama care rollout. president of the media research center brent bozel. >> brother hannity. isn't this fun? i'm finally enjoying myself a little bit. >> you almost can't make this up. we pointed out for years that certain news outlets are are basically an extension of the obama press office. let's start with nbc saying conservatives -- they didn't make the problem if you like your plan, keep your plan. like your doctor, keep your doctor, $2500 per family per year savings, no, the president did. they say conservatives need to apologize. that's how blank backwards they have it. >> many of the same people that feel betrayed now will be
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thanking the president later. these are people in so-called junk plans that could bankrupt them or their families if they got sick. >> the apology should be coming from the conservatives. the conservatives should apologize for having no plan and no option for any of the people you have seen illustrated on this program. they should be apologizing to 50 million americans who have been without insurance because, damn it, they have been sick. >> on health care instead of playing freaking defense go after the republicans who have 40 million people they want to commit to the emergency room. they don't want to lift a finger for them and the so-called independent media never brings it up. >> mo, larry and curly never read the cbo report that says even with obama care 30 million americans won't have insurance. >> you know, close your eyes and listen. this is sheer panic coming from these people. also, sean, think about the kco
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desengs. when you find the insurance policy best for you, your wife, your children, they call it a junk plan if it doesn't fit their narrative. they make statements up that there are 50 million people that true. have insurance. they make up the statement that republicans want to put 40 million people into hospitals, into mremergency rooms. this is sheer panic. >> they are blaming the insurance companies, blame fox and when always else fails george bush will be responsible. let's watch nbc and cnn again. how they step over themselves, making excuses for the president's lies on the 5 million americans and cancellat >> this is a bit like someone saying i'm going sell you a $500 car then that pesky government says the car has to be road worthy. >> the number one cause of
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bankruptcy is medical bills, there are bad plans out there this is a little bit of a red herring. it's a small perkingidge of the population fitting into thchl they have plans and want to keep them because they're buying insurance already but we have regulations for cars that are unsafe, people saying i want to keep my pinto. i don't want to buy a ferrari. >> i -- this is been that this is the kind of spin making baghdad bombs blush. look. you know? and the insulting nature of it. insurance policy you bought for your family is a pinto. it's a piece of crap in their minds. >> i want to keep a pinto. let me keep the pinto. >> let's gochlt this bets gets
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more interesting. matt lauer really hopes american people are going to forgive obama for lying and broken promises >> he apologized and made it over and over again, said you get to keep your existing policy. 5% can't keep it because it doesn't meet the standards of the new health care law. if it turns out those 5% with a better policy, do you think they'll forgive him for the broken promise? >> it's not 5%. everybody is regurgitating 5% obama latest line. it's not true, either. >> our parents taught ends never justify means. if it were true it doesn't justify lie together american people. but what is getting better? premiums@n are going up in california and texas. 90% in
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illinois. there is nothing better about this monstrosity. everybody knows it. i invite people in the press continue defending indefensible. everybody now sees where you're coming from. chris majorities wants to fault right wingers. watch how he goes off here. >> the right wing in this country has a big part of the republican coalition, not once as boehner or mcconnell said those people are unacceptable in the way bill buckly said antisem stichl not allowed. no one stands up for middle right. look at the free ride the media has been given the republican party.
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they're treating to southern people. and the right wing of the party haters. haters. >> what are nancy pelosi and hairy reid going to go after him? all the time anyone dares to disagree with his beloved preside president? >> chris matthews lecturing american people on how to behave is like for him to evoke williams s buckly he's saying the republican party needs to throw out the beliefs of buckly. >> when we come back, i chose lenno we're going to reveal your choice for the video of the day right after the break. so
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welcome back to hannity. time to reveal what you have chosen as video of the day. you selected a clip from the king of late night television. nbc dumb enough to let go not once, but twice, how dumb are they? anyway, jay leno. >> looks like it's war again between bill clinton and president obama. this is kind of -- not sure what is going on there. bill clinton says the president needs to change obamacare commitment to the american people. >> that is when you know you're in trouble bill clinton is lecturing you about commitment. that is when it gets testy. yeah. >> why would nbc get rid of the number one rated guy in all demos? twice? dumb. that that is the time we have left this evening. thank
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