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nation's cities through this summer, but away from the convention something interesting seemed to be happening with democrats. their leaders for months haved stood by and defended the so-called peaceful protests and said hardly a word about the violence at their own convention suddenly changed tack. for example, the governor of oregon issued a strong e ea buick. let me be clear, it's time for the violence and vandalism to end, focus on the important work to be done to achieve real change for racial justice. those who have committed acts of violence will be held accountable. meanwhile, in the district of columbia with, the mayor issued a statement condemning a group of black lives matter activists who harassed and verbally assaulted diners. what i saw in those videos, she said, was highly inappropriate. i don't think it had anything to do with demands for social justice what's going on? for months, these leaders have happily cofived, and now --
connived, and now something is different in the messaging. we got a strong clue from an exchange on cnn. >> the rioting has to stop. chris, as you know and i know, it's showing up in the polling. it's showing up in focus groups. it is the only thing, it is the only thing right now that is sticking. gerry: so there it is, it's all about the polling and focus groups. it's a revealing admission. for months these democrats have been more than happy to watch and in some cases cheer as lawless anarchists took advantage of the unrest, but now that the polls might be suggesting that americans don't like this violence, the party's decided it's time to shut it down. republicans, of course, continue to condemn the violence with mike pence, vice president mike pence, issuing a stark warning about what a joe biden presidency would mean. the convention also heard an incredibly moving and powerful testimony from ann dorn whose ex-police officer husband was
killed by rioters while he was trying to protect a store in st. louis. >> i relive that horror in my mind every single day. my hope is that having you relive are it with me now will help shake this country from this nightmare we are witnessing in our cities and bring about positive, peaceful change. gerry: president trump pounded the issue of crime during his lengthy speech accepting the nomination. >> make no mistake, if you give power to the to joe biden, the radical left will defund police departments all across america. they will pass federal legislation to reduce law enforcement nationwide. they will make every city look like democrat-run portland, oregon. no one will be safe in biden's america. gerry: it was, on the whole, an effective convention for the republicans last week. forced to follow the democrats in staging a tv-only event, they
showcased president trump's record on tax cuts, deregulation, trade, etc. but also in a potential appeal to voters who have been turned off by some of mr. trump's words and behavior, they projected the image of an inclusive and tolerant party, speeches with by farmer, professional women, black and ethnic minority speakers and even a nun in full habit. most memorable was senator tim scott who spoke movingly of how his own life story belied the notion that the nation was racist. >> yet he lived long enough to see his grandson become the first african-american to be elected to both the united states house and the united states senate in the history of this country. our family went from cotton to congress in one lifetime. and that's why i believe the
next american century can be better than the last. gerri: the president, of course, defended his record on handling covid-19, but this may still be a vulnerability for mr. trump in november as polls suggest significant numbers of voters continue to be unhappy about his record on it. the president seems to be relying on an improving economy, rising alarm among voters about law and order and, of course, the democrats under joe biden's sharp turn to the left. he's relying on all of that to pull off what still looks like something of a come from behind win. here the talk about all about that is pollster john mcloughlin. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, gerry. gerry: quite often an election seems to be a referendum on the incumbent's record. is this election going to be a referendum on joe biden?
>> a referendum? it's definitely a choice because you saw their convention last week, and they were pessimistic, they were negative, their tone was -- it just, they didn't even like america at times, you thought. and it was boring too, and that's a a major sin in politics, to be boring. but the tone of it was very negative. and the republicans were uplifting this week, they were positive, they were hopeful, they talked about the future, they showed a diverse face, and these are all supporters of president trump. and the president's record is very good and is a real sharp contrast of his record as a businessman who came into government versus joe biden who's been in government for 47 years, and the results are underwhelming, so this is going to be a real contrast election, and we feel very good about the position that we're in right now in terms of contrasting the president's record of success versus joe biden's ideas about,
that really would dismantle america in a lot of ways; our economy, the coronavirus response, etc. it's just very negative. gerry: let me show you some polling, you won't be able to see it, but you'll be familiar with it. it's polling for americans were asked whether the country's going in the right direction or on the wrong track, and in the latest poll in august, 34% say it's the right direction,64% say it's on the wrong track. in a country where there is so much dissatisfaction with the way the nation's going, what is the republican -- what's president trump's overall message? >> well, first of all, this president is facing historic challenges. i mean, when you talk about what's, you know, he was on his way to re-election before the virus hit. and then all of a sudden you get this global pandemic, a once in a hundred-year event followed by depression-level points of unemployment, followed by political unrest and violence in
the cities, and he's trying to recover from these things all at once. and, you know, we met one time and i was saying it's amazing your base is rock solid, they're staying with you, you've got over 90% with the republicans, and the independents we can bring around. and at the same time, he saws, oh, by the way, you forgot impeachment. yeah. he's faced these historic challenges, and americans are saying, the country's not in the right direction because of these challenges, but they like his approach, they trust him to create the jobs that we need. he gave a goal of his second term agenda would be to create 10 million jobs in 10 months. americans like that, and they believe he can do it, not joe biden. they also are noting that this global pandemic, the coronavirus is receding in the united states, and that's -- and no one's come up with the solution to it other than president trump has moved to get a vaccine that he says we'll have by the end of
the year. and that's really what will solve the problem. gerry: when you say -- let's jump, sorry to interrupt, we need to take a short break. when we return, i want to talk further about what we can expect until the next nine weeks that we have until november 3rd. ♪ ♪ tara, did you know geico is now offering an extra 15% credit on car and motorcycle policies? >>wow...ok! that's 15% on top of what geico could already save you. so what are you waiting for? idina menzel to sing your own theme song? ♪ tara, tara, look at her go with a fresh cup of joe. ♪ gettin' down to work early! ♪ following her dreams into taxidermy! oh, it's...tax attorney. ♪ i read that wrong, oh yeeaaaah! geico. save an extra 15 percent when you switch by october 7th. ♪ give it up for tara!
♪ ♪ gerry: my guest is president trump's pollster, john mclock land. we saw a lot of african-american speakers, a lot of men in particular,s also some women at the convention in the last week to have republican convention. a lot of people were surprised by this. there is some suggestion that president trump, i think maybe won 7 or 8% of the african-american vote, that perhaps he could push that vote number up this time. do you think there's real inroads to be made there in the african-american vote? >> absolutely. that's what's freaking out the democrats.
and not just african-americans, but also with latinos and also with asian voters -- gerry: what's the message to them? what's going to persuade them? >> well, it's the results. i mean, prior to the pandemic hitting, you had record low levels of african-american unemployment, hispanic unemployment, you had a future. he also had given historic levels of support to historically black colleges and universities, charter schools. charter schools are a huge advantage for the republicans. they're pushing that. democrats have shut them down. i mean, school choice for people who are stuck in inner cities or places where their children need the opportunity to get a good education and get ahead, that's a powerful message for the republicans. plus what he's done in terms of criminal justice reform where he's given people like alice johnson who spoke at the convention a second chance. it's a really sharp contrast to joe biden's record and to what the democrats have done.
and now you're seeing our cities, when they talk about defunding the police, you're having record levels of crime across america in major cities, and the victims of those crimes are the minorities who live there. gerry: john, one group the president seems to have lost ground with since 2016, suburban voters, especially white, college-educated women. and he's lost a significant amount of ground there, and we saw in 2018 too. how is the president going to win those voters back? >> people were saying when they saw what the democrats wanted to do with the higher taxes, the idea of, you know, i mean, it's going to hit the suburbs the hardest, the idea of -- they're seeing that the president wants to cover pre-existing conditions on health care, plus the democrats have this plan where they're going to end local control of single-family zoning in the suburbs where you won't is have homes anymore, but you'll be forced by federal mandate to accept multi-density,
high-level housing. people don't want that during a pandemic. [laughter] it's -- so they don't like the democrat solutions. so the suburban voters, they're coming back to us. gerry: john, very quickly was we've got to wrap -- because we've got to wrap, we didn't see a bump for joe biden last week. are you expecting the president to get a bump and close that gap? >> e actually -- we actually closed versus biden. i would not isn't a traditional bump because of the historic challenges we're facing and how polarized it is right now. since 9/11, the last two presidents were reelected with only 51%. we are going to continue to run like underdogs, we'll continue to grind out, and the plan is to be ahead on election day. last time we were never ahead until actually the votes were counted, so that's the way we're going to run. we're going to run hard full-court press, keep challenging the democrats and have a strict contrast to joe biden's america versus the hope
and optimism of donald trump's vision for the country. gerry: you've got a very busy few weeks ahead, thanks very much, indeed, for joining us. >> thank you very much. gerry: are democratic leaders adding to the rise in violence in cities, and are they now getting concerned about it? we'll explore next. muck i. ♪ liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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pretty horrific attack on police officers, we had a mob descending on the east precinct police station, this was the one that was famous nationally because it was in the c. h. o.p. zone overtaken by the activists. they tried the seal the doors shut with cement while simultaneously trying to blame it down, and the council and the mayor's office said absolutely nothing. so it's pretty much status quo where we have total chaos and no one is actually leading. gerry: i think sealing police officers into a building and trying to burn it downfalls definitely into the category of peaceful protests, don't you? >> oh, totally. it was a redecorating of the east precinct. it was cold that night, it was a bonfire. gerry: what do you think, what effects this could be having on the way -- all of these cities, seattle, portland, kenosha, wisconsin, minneapolis, new york city, chicago, all controlled by can democrats, have been for a very long time. and in many ways those leaders
seem to actually, certainly haven't been very critical of the protesters. what effect is it having? >> i think the effect pretty clear because now all of a sudden joe biden and some democrats are starting to talk about it. for the longst time, you had some outlets pretending nub of this was happening, and if they would mention it, it would be blamed on donald trump. but people are looking at the images on twitter, on facebook, they're getting access to it, and they live in these neighborhoods. they live in these commitments. and they're saying to themselves, look, you can blame trump all you want, but our mayor is here, our council is here. they're doing absolutely nothing. and they're making the connections on their own. and there's only one party that's really been consistently talking about needing to get this under control and speaking in support of our police officers. and at some point the need for security in our own neighborhoods is going to trump all the talking points coming from the left, and i do think regardless of whether or not you vote as a democrat, an
independent or a republican, it is going to start to hurt the democratic party in these cities. there's only so much that a lot of people can take. again, regardless of their political position. gerry: as you say, the media's been, for the most part, suggesting that all this is overdone and the fact that you say denying it was even happening, but do you think people are now really changing the way they view this? i mean, there was some sympathy for the protesters, i think, early on. do you think now as we get into this, especially as we see more and more of this violence, do you think people are changing their views about the way, about these protests and what's going on? >> 100%, because it's no longer about protests. it's now about riots and mobs. everyone was on the same side. everyone was united after the culling, the murder of george floyd. i think from the left to the right to socialist to independent, everyone was rightfully outraged by the video that we saw. and then all of a sudden it turned to rioting and looting, and people can simultaneously be disgusted by what we saw in that
video while also holding the position that not all cops are the horrible things that people are saying, that it's inappropriate to burn down buildings, to attack people on city streets, to allow mob rule. you could hold those views, and i think most americans hold both views, but there's only one party right now that's taking that position. you've got the democrats that have decided over the course of last week and their platform is pretty much vilifying police officers. on the right you've had lots of folks say we can, we can subscribe to police reforms that make sense while also supporting police officers. and i think that's where most americans are. gerry: very quickly because we've got to wrap, you saw president trump's speech on thursday night. do you think that message resonates with voters, particularly on what kind of country the democrats might incident. >> i do. i think it needs to be just hammered home. i think they did a really good job, and now you've got to do this all the way into november because very clearly the activists on the left are not going to be happy with that message, so we just need to be
on top of it. gerry: jason, thank you very much, indeed. just ahead, it's not just the democrats, but the media who bear responsibility for what's happening in american cities. and i'll explain what they're up to next. ♪ ♪ looks like they picked the wrong getaway driver. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance. i just... when i... let's try again. everybody back to one. accident forgiveness from allstate. click or call for a quote today. accident forgiveness from allstate.
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number of american cities, or they were at it again. on monday cnn for a moment inadvertently told the truth about what's actually going on. watch this caption over their coverage. notice how on the left it refers to violent protests. but this departure from the network's approved naming didn't last long are. look at the right side. the caption was changed so that it conformed to the approved text and now simply protests. then on wednesday the same news organization produced this gem. in the background you see a city of flame, protesters burning, looting and causing terror. the contradictory views, cnn came up with the brilliant phrase fiery but mostly peaceful protests. mostly peaceful arson. mostly peaceful violence. you just can't make it up. we highlight these examples not to poke fun, but because it points out a very important and
troubling element of what's going on in the country. simply by many people -- [inaudible] the existing order. it is what time magazine called it this week glowingly a new american revolution. now, what all revolutionists know is in order to get your way, you need to take control of the narrative. when the facts don't fit, then you make them up. it's straight out of the playbook of the french, the wolfe shipping -- bolsheviks in russia, to maoists in china. of course, they don't really need to do that in today's america because the media are already there for them. well, that's it for us this week. for the latest show updates, be sure to follow me on twitter, facebook and instagram. and plan to join charles payne for a virtual town hall wednesday, september 2 end. take part by sending your questions to fox business on facebook and instagram or e-mailing them to invested in firstname.lastname@example.org. i'll be back next week with more
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