tv House Speaker Pelosi Senate Majority Leader Schumer on Gun Violence Bill CSPAN March 11, 2021 3:22pm-3:59pm EST
200,000 or 300,000. and it will become 200,000 or 349,000 because people around the world are watching the president. and if the president continues to make it clear he does not intend to enforce the border, people from all around the world will be coming here. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman yield back? mr. grothman: yes. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 5-a-1-b of house resolution 8, the house stappeds adjourned until 10:30 a.m. tomorrow.
protect lives. and at this time, i'd like to turn it over to our leader, speaker nancy pelosi. speaker pelosi: thank you very much, chairman thompson, for your leadership on this important legislation. it's an honor to be here with you, with our colleague, lucy mcbath, who has told her story as to why this is so important in a way that's so eloquent that challenges the conscience of the congress not to pass this legislation. thank you for your leadership on h.r. 8. and mr. clyburn, thank you, our distinguished whip, for your leadership on h.r. 1446. the case was made, i thought eloquently, on the floor with the facts you presented yesterday in the face of some misrepresentations on the other side. it's my honor to welcome back to the house side senator murphy who's been a champion on this issue. we thank you for your
leadership. and senator blumenthal, former attorney general of connecticut, a champion on this issue as well. we expect the distinguished leader to be joining us as well. who was a champion when he was in the house and now in the senate. mr. schumer was the leader when we passed this bill in 1994. and i was a relatively new member. we were his mignons to -- minions to get the bill passed at the time. it was hard. it did happen. so it is -- the representatives of the judiciary committee will speak about that, mr. nadler, and chair of the crime subcommittee, congresswoman sheila jackson lee. so you'll have a full array of what the bills contained. i just want to put it in this context. yesterday, when i spoke on the floor about the american rescue package, i said the most important facing our congress is our children, our children, our
children. their health, education, economic security of their family, a safe environment which they can thrive and a world of peace which they can fill their fulfillment. environment in which they can thrive safely is what we are talking about today. there is no -- nobody in congress whose political survivor is more important than the survival of our children. we think this should be bipartisan a congress as it is in the country. as it is in the country. overwhelmingly there's broad support for the background checks legislation. so i hope with the big strong bipartisan vote we have today to send it over to the senate and the drumbeat across america that the change will come. we have told the survivors when they have come here when they could and in our communications
since then that we are not giving up until the job is done. until we pass this legislation, which will save lives. mr. schumer, has he arrived? senator murray, thank you for your leadership. welcome back to the house side. we are proud of all of our members who have gone from the house and senate. chris murphy makes us so proud on so many issues and the leadership on this one is just so important to the cause. senator murphy of connecticut. senator murphy: thank you very much, madam speaker. thank you for joining us here today. madam speaker, i'm so glad you framed this through the prism of children. because we obviously think about the lives that have been lost in school shooting after school shooting. but what we often forget is that there are generations of kids who are experiencing mind-altering trauma every
single day growing up in incredibly violent neighborhoods. it's not a coincidence that the underperforming schools tend to be in the neighborhoods with high levels of gun violence. because even if you or your family member are not the immediate victim, fearing for your life every day of gun violence, it literally forces your brain to go through trauma that affect your ability to learn, to cope, to build relationships. that's why this issue is so vitally important. and what we know is that we need a federal solution. guns don't respect state borders. in new york state, 75% of the guns that are used in crimes in that state are bought outside of new york, in states with less strict gun laws, where criminals can buy a weapon without having to go through a background check. and so in order to protect all
of america's children, we need to pass universal background checks and close the charleston loophole. finally, it is hard to find a piece of legislation that's more popular than the american rescue plan. but background checks is supported by 90% of americans. this issue has a reputation of being controversial, but it is only controversial inside the beltway. outside of washington, republicans, democrats, gun owners, nongun owners, n.r.a. members, non-n.r.a. members agree we should tighten our gun laws to make sure that criminals and people with histories of serious mental illness cannot buy a gun. it's a universal issue. i'm so grateful to my house colleagues for bringing this bill to the floor early in this session, for bringing republicans and democrats behind it. we will work hard to achieve that same unity in the united states senate as soon as this bill clears the house and comes
over to our side. so with that, i think i'm going to turn this over to the champion for the charleston loophole, somebody who's been speaking truth to power on this issue his entire career, whip clyburn. mr. clyburn: thank you very much, madam speaker. thank you very much, chairman thompson. i get a little emotional when i think about the charleston loophole. because there's nothing most sacred in the lives of most people than their church. and i think when you see what happened at mother emanuel church, when people are really,
really vulnerable. i was talking with someone a couple days ago and reminded them that martin luther king jr.'s mother was shot in church. and when we have these symbols of hate, these white supremacists, they tend to go after our churches. burn down the churches. this gentleman researched history and went after the most historic african-american church. if people can't be safe in bible study, then they cannot be safe anywhere. and what we have here was a young man who had no business having a gun, was able to get a gun because the wrong
information was keyed in. now, i will always believe that he knew the law well enough to intentionally give wrong information. by the time they found the right information, he had the gun. that's all we're doing here is saying, give officials time to do the background check. and then if it passes muster, get the gun. i want to thank those who have been involved in bringing this bill to the floor, and i hope that once again, as we did before, we can have bipartisan support to get it done. and i'm so glad that on the other side of the aisle, senator blumenthal has agreed to sponsor this bill in the senate and he and i did a joint session with the widow of the pastor of emanuel church yesterday. i'm so pleased to present him to
you know, senator blumenthal. senator blumenthal: thank you, whip clyburn. i am really honored to be here, madam speaker. thank you for your leadership, to mike thompson and lucy mcbath, and sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your extraordinary courage and thanks as well to my great colleague, chris murphy. he and i have been a team on this issue since his election to the senate and sandy hook. you know, listening to jim clyburn on the floor yesterday, i was so moved because clearly nine people would be alive today, literally, nine people, members of that congregation would be almost certainly alive today if that killer had not taken advantage of the charleston loophole, a glaring gap in our law. there is no reason that people
should not wait a day or two or three to buy a gun so that a check can be done on them. and there is a principle at work here. the support for universal background checks is nearly universal. almost everybody in the country, including gun owners, n.r.a. members want it. and the principles should be no check, no sale. no check, no gun. that's the way to make america safer. and i think with the leadership of our great leader, senator schumer, we have a real opportunity to make history here. i'm asked often, what has changed since sandy hook? we have a growing grassroots political movement with leaders
at the local level changing history. and we have house members who have run on this issue, who have not just answered questions, they made it a priority. so i think the implosion of the n.r.a., the growing support among the american people and the inevitability of increased support gives us an opportunity we haven't had before. we need not only background checks and closing the charleston loophole but also emergency risk protection orders, safe storage, ethan's law, repeal of placa, a number of measures that provide a comprehensive solution. there's no single cure, but i think we can do it with the kind of support that we're seeing this morning. and i'm very pleased now and
honored to introduce one of the true champions of gun violence protection -- do you want to -- my mentor and model and leader, senator schumer of new york. [indiscernible] ms. jackson lee: go right ahead, chuck. senator schumer: thank god i didn't get ahead of clyburn. [laughter] ok. thank you, everybody, and it's great to be here. i want to thank our great speakers, speaker pelosi, all of my colleagues in the house and senate who have played an instrumental role in this so important an issue. and i particularly want to thank the survivors and the families of the victims and so many who have that horrible hole in their heart because they lost someone to gun violence. so many children -- children on
our streets gone, and yet, these advocates light a candle every day. that's what the bible tells us is a saintly and noble thing to do instead of just cursing the darkness. and i thank them as well. this issue is very important to me, as those of you have been around a while know. i was author of the brady law back in 1994 in the house of representatives, and we passed it. and there are literally so many -- you could probably say certainly hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people walking the streets today because we passed that law. who had' be -- who'd be dead, who'd be dead. but when we passed the law it had -- little did we know it had loopholes in it at the time. we didn't know there would be an internet so we didn't prohibit internet sales without a
background check. and to get the last few votes -- just a little history. a couple of our members from our moderate states just exclude gun shows. don't put them in. at the end gun shows were not much. it was when you showed off your 1939 daringer off. of course the n.r.a. and the gun merchants and merchants of death used the gun shows as a way to get around the law. so h.r. 8 closes these loopholes. a universal background check. it is desperately needed. and the house, of course, has had the good sense to pass this three times? twice. twice. mr. thompson: twice after today. senator schumer: twice after today. will have the good sense to pass this twice. and in the past when they sent it over last time, it went into mitch mcconnell's legislative graveyard. the legislative graveyard is over. h.r. 8 will be on the floor of
the senate, and we will see where everybody stands. no more hopes and prayers, thoughts and prayers. a vote is what we need. a vote. not thoughts and prayers. and we will see where people stand, and maybe we'll get the votes. and if we don't, we'll come together as a caucus and figure out how we're going to get this done, because we have to get it done. for the lives of the american people, for the safety of our streets and particularly for our young kids. so many of whom in my state and all the states, mine and jerry's states, and all the states represented here whose lives were taken at such a tender age because of gun violence and guns. senator durbin will be holding hearings. and we are shining the spotlight on this issue. we're going to win on this issue. the american people, i'm sure as
has been mentioned, are overwhelmingly -- like 90% -- on our side. so i thank the house for having this event, but more importantly for passing the bill today. and now we will focus on getting it through the senate. who am i supposed to call on? and now my dear, dear friend of -- since -- i knew him before he was an assembly man. he was a district leader. a powerful district leader on the west side of manhattan when he was about 19 years old and just got out of stiefrson high school -- stiverson high school, jerry nadler. mr. nadler: thank you very much, chuck. i want to begin by thanking representative mike thompson and the distinguished majority whip, jim clyburn, for their leadership in introducing these two important gun safety bills. i also want to thank the speaker and the rest of the democratic leadership for their support in bringing this legislation to the floor. more than once. since the house passed these
bills, more than two years ago, an estimated 80,000 people -- 80,000 people have lost their lives to gun violence. every day that we do not act is another day that families will mourn the loss of a loved one. every day that we do not act is another day that our homes, our streets, our schools, and even our houses of worship are at stake. because -- are less safe, rather, because dangerous weapons are in the hands of people who should not legally be permitted to acquire them. every day that we do not act is another day that america people, who overwhelmingly support background checks -- you've heard the statistics and closing loopholes in the law -- those lose faith in their government's ability to keep them safe. that's why the house is passing both h.r. 8 and 1446 and we will work until both these bills are signed into law.
senator schumer and president biden has been long champions of gun violence. i know they will be actively working to send these bills to the president's desk. the senate republicans will work with us to save lives instead of standing in the way of this important legislation. we cannot afford to lose another day. you know, we heard today about jim clyburn spoke eloquently about the mother a.m.e. church. there's also the tree of life synagogue. there's also parkland high school. there are all these mass shootings. that these two bills will greatly reduce. there are also individual shootings. not just mass shootings. individual shootings. in new york we have very good gun safety laws, but we cannot enforce them over the borders from states that do not have good gun safety laws. these two bills will stop that problem. so it will save -- these two bills will save thousands and
thousands and thousands of lives every year. and for that we have a moral duty to pass it. we have a political duty to pass it, given the polling. and if republicans stand in the way, they'll pay a price, both morally and politically. and now it's my privilege to introduce one of the leaders in this fight in the senate, senator chris murphy. sheila. somebody else. [laughter] sheila jackson lee, the chairperson of the crime subcommittee in our judiciary committee. ms. jackson lee: thank you so very much. the american people have spoken, and i'm so grateful they have spoken and our speaker, speaker pelosi has never stopped listening to the american
people. senator schumer has never stopped listening to the american people. and we have gathered together to benefit from the leadership of chairman thompson, whip clyburn, senator murphy, senator blumenthal, and our conscience, congresswoman mcbath, who i have the privilege of serving with on the house judiciary committee. the precious right of the bill of rights, embedded in the constitution, is love by all -- loved by all americans. and so as both speaker pelosi and chairman thompson and senator schumer said, we're getting a vote on the preciousness of the american people's rights embedded in the constitution. nothing in h.r. 8 or h.r. 1446 violates any part of the bill of rights. it does not violate the first amendment. it does not violate the right to due process, and it does not violate the second amendment. nothing in the second amendments
suggests you cannot regulate and provide safety for the american people. nothing in the supreme court cases like heller says that. so we are on the right side of the constitution and the right side of history and the right side of the american people who are pleading for their lives. in our time it cost $448,000 for every homicide incident that results in medical care or court cases. in addition, let me just say that i came here -- and some of you may have gone down memory lane -- just as columbine was taking place. what happened in columbine shocked america. right before the turn of the century, 2000. in that case, our friend of the boys that -- a friend of the boys that killed all of those students went to a gun show and bought a carbine and two
shotguns. i'll never forget it. madam speaker, there was a columbine task force and i was on it. we thought it was going to be the beginning and an end and never have an opportunity to see that again but it did occur over and over again. so i'm very grateful that h.r. 8 is four corners ready to go, and h.r. 1446 will say you can pray in your church and you should not have the violence of a killer like dylann roof come because the background check was not done. this is an important statement. let us celebrate a vote in the house today and, yes, a vote in the senate, and a signature by the president of the united states. mr. thompson: thank you all very much. are there any questions? reporter: [indiscernible] how are you planning, or i guess it's more for the senator, to overcome the filibuster?
mr. thompson: you heard what senator schumer said. they'll take it up. it will have its day. if the republicans do -- can you imagine the republicans standing in opposition to 90% of the american people? but if they do, as senator schumer said, there's other options that they will -- that they will pursue. does anybody want to speak specifically on that? senator schumer: this is an idea which time has come. we had a majority of votes for a background check measure -- senator blumenthal: sandy hook, the cry from the gallery was shame on you. if the republicans vote against it -- and there will be a vote -- they will pay a price politically. because as the house members have shown very courageously by running on this issue, people are not only supportive, they're
willing to vote based on this issue. so this is going to be front and center. and, you know, i think what's also changed, we now have a president who can put pressure on our colleagues. and i'm hoping that we'll see that. >> mitch mcconnell spent the last four years avoiding background checks because he chose the n.r.a. his members expressed to me over several years they want to get right on this issue. senator murphy: so i don't think we should expect there aren't 60 votes in the senate for universal background checks. so much has changed. the political power of the anti-gun violence movement is infinitely stronger. the n.r.a. is a shell of itself. and so i've had a lot of republican members come to me
and express their willingness to take a new look. if this bill's on the floor with 90% public support, with the power of the anti-gun violence movement behind it, i don't think we should -- we should be confident in the fact there won't be republicans who don't want to litigate this issue election after election. mr. thompson: yes. reporter: just to put a finer point on that, senator schumer said -- i know he's not here -- there will be a vote on the house bill and see where everyone stands. if it fails, then figure something out. so are any sort of -- this is for the senators, i suppose -- any sort of bipartisan discussions happening? because manchin and thumy got two votes -- thume got two votes previously. only two of those remain in the senate. are manchin and thume on board? senator murphy: i think we're living in a different world than 2013. so much has changed.
the politics around us are fundamentally different. i think senator blumenthal, i should leave it to senator schumer about the floor schedule. you can't compare 2013 to 2021. i think there are a lot of republican senators that are thinking about voting for a proposal that allows them to get right on this issue. mr. thompson: i'm going to ask our colleague, congresswoman mcbath, to close us out, please. mrs. mcbath: i am just completely grateful for the -- all of the hard work and for all of the effort that has been placed in to making this happen today. and i would just like to take my hat off for a moment, the hat i wear as a member of the united states house of representatives and to thank each and every one of my colleagues and leadership.
as a mother who lost her child to the very gun violence that every one of us has been fighting for so hard to eradicate, madam speaker, i want to thank you. rep thompson, thank you for allowing me to be a part of championing this lifesaving legislation. rep clyburn, i spent time with you, i came down to charleston after emanuel, and i am more grateful to be able to help you pass this legislation because no one deserves the kind of pain and anguish that people are suffering, especially those that have come to god and sat in church and lost their lives. senator blumenthal, senator murphy, chairman nadler, sheila, thank you. you have championed this
legislation long before i got here. and all of the times that i sat in committee hearings waiting for this legislation to pass and watching you time and time and time again put forth amendments that were shot down, for this moment to be able to be here with you, thank you for that. and as a mother, as a survivor, we thank you. there are so many of us survivors and family members that have lost loved ones that have been waiting and waiting and waiting, and today, we have the real possibility to make a difference and save lives. so i thank you on behalf of all the organizations, all the leaders, all of the frontline volunteers that have been championing for this moment, thank you. mr. thompson: thank you, all, very much. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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