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turned the corner and saw me. he froze. mr. kelly bumped into his back because the guy stopped short. they stumbled and regained their balance and looked around the room. i knew what they were thinking. is that they got the run route number or this was a setup. i would like this. to display my hands. nothing in them. hi,proached him and said mr. kelly, my name is darrell davis. come in. >> sunday night, at 8:00 eastern on q and day on c-span. >> now, democratic presidential candidate senator bernie sanders of vermont joins the political party live podcast in iowa for another one of their series of interviews with 20 democratic presidential candidates. this is under one hour. [applause]
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>> this is a party crowd. >> this is a party crowd indeed. senator sanders, thank you so much for joining us. i will kick us off and asked the question here, you have entered the field, one of the largest and most diverse fields of candidates ever to run for president on the democratic side. what sets you apart from the rest of the field, or asked another way, why do you believe you are best suited to defeat donald trump? sen. sanders: why don't you get to the point? [laughter] sen. sanders: i will tell you why i believe i am best suited to defeat donald trump. in order to defeat trump, and i
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know all of the polls say he will be beaten and they have me ahead of them in michigan and pennsylvania and wisconsin, battleground states, but i think he will be a very tough opponent because i think he is a pathological liar, i think he will say anything and do anything. it will not be an easy campaign and i hope everybody understands this. i think there are a couple of reasons why i think i am the strongest candidate. in order to beat trump, we are going to need a campaign of enthusiasm, excitement, and a campaign which brings out an enormously large voter turnout. i think our campaign is the kind of campaign that does that. we are a campaign that speaks to the needs of working people, and we are a campaign that i think can energize young people. let me be very honest, the future of america rests with our younger generations.
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[applause] sen. sanders: the good news is that the younger generation today is the most progressive young generation in the history of our country. [applause] sen. sanders: it is a generation that is antiracist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobia, anti-religious bigotry, anti-xenophobia, all of the things that trump espouses. that is the good news. the bad news is that historically, young people in this country vote in very low numbers. if young people voted at the same type of level as older people, we could transform this country. we made progress in 2018, you may recall, the voter return among young people was the highest in something like 70 years.
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quite good, but not good enough. what this campaign is about right now in the primary, and if i am the nominee, i will do everything i can to bring young people into the political process. that is very important if we are going to defeat trump. second of all, there are many parts of this country where i won big in the democratic primary and trump ended up winning as well.
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i think we can speak to some of trump's supporters who now understand that he lied to them and he is a fraud. there are a lot of people out there who listen to trump because they are hurting. remember he said he was going to provide health care to everybody. i am going to have a trade policy that represents workers and farmers. not quite the way it happened and he's going to have a tax plan that will not help the wealthy, remember that? he lied on all of those things, but i don't lie. i will speak to those working people and i think we can win some of those. that's why i think i'm the strongest candidate. [applause] lauren: speaking of those working people, you recently spoke at a walmart shareholders meeting and demanded they pay workers a minimum of $15 per hour. [applause] lauren: yeah. can you tell us more about that speech and what else you would like to do to improve the quality for workers in america? sen. sanders: what i like to do is talk about issues that most people in america know to be true but you don't see much on tv, and a lot of people and politics don't talk about.
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what is the issue? in my view, the major economic crisis facing the american people right now is that you have over half of our people working in jobs that force them to live paycheck to paycheck. i grew up in a family that lived paycheck to paycheck, so i know a little bit about what that is about. some people don't know this, if you have money you may not know this. it means that if your car breaks down and you need a $500 repair, you might not have that $500. what happens if you don't have that $500? you can get to work. if you can't get work, you get fired. you can't put food on the table for your kids. half of american workers are living under that kind of stress. that is one of the reasons why life expectancy in the u.s. is actually in decline. to my mind, raising the minimum
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wage to a living wage is certainly not a radical idea. our view should be that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, if you work 40 hours a week, you should not be living in poverty. that is not a radical idea. [applause] sen. sanders: and furthermore, you know, we have -- i was asked by workers to go there, i did not just pop in there. the other issues we raised, the fact -- and this is amazing, it is kind of endemic in terms of american society. you know who owns walmart, it is the walton family. we don't talk about these issues too much, but the walton family happens to be the wealthiest family in america, they are worth $175 billion.
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that is real money. you would think that a family worth $175 billion to pay their workers a living wage, instead, and this is what is so crazy, many of the walmart workers making $11 and $12 an hour are forced to go on food stamps, medicaid, or into public housing. who do you think pays for that? taxpayers. you have the absurdity of ordinary working people subsidizing the wealthiest family in this country because they are paying workers starvation wages. that was my message to the board of directors of walmart. and by the way, i'm not sure if it is tomorrow or sunday, i will be marching with workers who are fighting -- [applause]
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sen. sanders: it is the same issue. they have been real heroes and heroines all over the country. seven states in the country have already raised the minimum wage to $15 per hour and that is pretty good. simeon: you talked about how the younger generation is the most progressive generation that has ever existed. a lot of folks, when they look the democratic field, they think it is time for a different generation of political leadership, especially a younger generation. sen. sanders: i thought they wanted an older generation. [laughter] simeon: how do you respond to people who say it is time for younger readers to step up? -- leaders to step up. sen. sanders: that is a sad question and a good question. maybe it is a little self-serving, i admit that, but i think it is not just the age of a person or the color of a
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person's skin or the gender, it is what a person believes in, right? [applause] sen. sanders: you know? there is, i believe, a woman governor in alabama. a woman governor. she just assigned the most horrific anti-choice legislation in the history of the country. are we proud she is a woman? i don't think so. what we want is our government and business community to reflect the realities and demographics of american life. we want half of the people or more elected office to be women, we want african-american presentation, latino representation, asian-american representation, native american representation. that is what we strive for, it is not good enough -- i get into trouble and probably people are tweeting out right now -- but it is not good enough.
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it is important what you believe in, what kind of society you are fighting for. [applause] sen. sanders: if you look at my age, fine, also look at my experience. i was a mayor, member of congress, 13 years in the senate. look at a record that's one of the most progressive records in congress -- [applause] sen. sanders: and look at somebody who kind of opened up a debate that did not previously exist. we were not talking about medicare for all five years ago or raising the minimum wage to $15. many of the ideas that i brought forth, the american people, here in iowa, new hampshire, all over the country, people said those ideas are right. they have become the ideas that democrats from the school board to president of the united states are talking about. all i ask is to take a look of the whole person in the whole
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record, i think you'll find something pretty good here. [applause] simeon: a lively crowd. that is a beautiful segue into my next question. it seems like presidential candidates are finally starting to have a conversation about issues progressives have cared about for a long time. stacey: i think in large part we owe you another progressive a thank you for moving the democratic party in that direction. [applause] stacey: i have three issues i will let you go point by point on the issues, but we are just now finally having a conversation in the democratic party about the legalization of marijuana and the thousands of individuals behind bars, you know, have been arrested and prosecuted for petty marijuana crimes, when you go to some states here and walk into these stores selling marijuana products and it looks like an apple store.
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a lot of people are making big money off of the stuff that we have been locking up like a -- black and brown people for for generations in this country. next issue, the most compelling case i have read for reparations in the modern era. i would like your thoughts on this. i have heard a few candidates talk about the case for reparations. the last issue we will talk about is universal health care. and universal education. marijuana, reparations, health care and education. what are your thoughts on those issues? [laughter] stacey: you have a couple of minutes. sen. sanders: i have 12 seconds to answer, right? first of all, i am proud that
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four years ago when i talked about the need to bring fundamental reform to a very broken criminal justice system, that we said, if we are going to do that, we need to end the so-called war on drugs. [applause] sen. sanders: and i talked about the absurdity, the insanity of having a controlled substance act that says that heroin is the same level of marijuana, and if we are going to really deal with criminal justice, we have to end the so-called war on drugs, and i called for the legalization or decriminalization at least of marijuana. i am happy to say that in my state and states all over the country, we are seeing not only real progress in that direction, but we are also seeing some communities now expunging the records of people who were arrested for possession of marijuana, what a thing as a major step toward.
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[applause] sen. sanders: now, your point on this issue is, i think, a very valid point. we are seeing now, unbelievable you might say, 10 years ago legalization of marijuana would not happen, and now wall street and corporate america is taking over the industry. your point is maybe, just maybe, we should look to the people who suffered the most, the black and brown people. the irony there, as i'm sure you know, is the white community does marijuana about the same level as the black community, but blacks are six times more likely to be arrested. and your point, which i agree with, is that we cannot allow corporate america to take over hemp and marijuana. the people who were arrested deserve to make money on what is now legal. i agree with you. there are things we can do about that. let me say a word about reparations.
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what i support is congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, he has an idea he has had for a long time, which i think it is perhaps in the best way forward. what he says, his legislation is called 10, 20, 30, it says 10% of federal funding should be going to those communities in america which has seen long-term poverty, distressed communities in america. in other words, right now, what we have got to do is pour federal funding into the most distressed communities in america, which are very often black or brown communities, to make sure the kids get the education they need, that people get the health care they need, that we deal with the housing crisis, we create the jobs people need.
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we have enough for a variety of reasons, not the least of which going back to slavery, we have got to do everything we can to address the incredible racial inequities that exist in this country. the racial disparities that exist. right now, as many of you know, in the midst of massive income wealth inequality as a whole, we have a great deal of racial disparity, meaning white families own 10 times more wealth than the black families, who got really devastated during the wall street crash. you're seeing unbelievably high rates of maternal debt in the black community, infant mortality higher, black is this is cannot get the loans they need. -- black businesses cannot get the loans they need. i will never forget visiting a small business and milwaukee, the guy who owns it is black, he says i can't get the loans i need to expand. that happens all over the
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country. i think we need to pay special attention and i will do that as president, it ties into social justice. kids don't have jobs, education, shock of all shocks, they will end up in jail. the last point you raised with the issue of -- [applause] sen. sanders: look, i have said this a million times. we have more people in jail than any other country on earth, we are spending $80 billion a year at the local, state, and federal level locking people up it costs more money to lock a person up here in iowa than to send them to the university of iowa. i would rather send our young people to college than lock them up. [applause] sen. sanders: on the issue i'm working with people all over this country, shawn king and others, for real criminal justice reform where we invest in young people rather than in more jails and incarceration.
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as president, i will significantly reduce the number of people who are in jail today. we will end mass incarceration. the last issue impacts every man, woman, and child in this country. it is an issue about health care, and it raises a couple of basic points. do we believe that health care is a human right or not? i believe health care is a human right. [applause] sen. sanders: and that the united states should join every other major country on earth and guarantee health care to all people as a right. many americans do not know that. many americans do not know that we are the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people. i lived 50 miles away from canada, you know how much it costs, if you have a heart transplant in canada, you know what your bill is when you leave the hospital?
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anybody know? zero. you go to any doctor you want to, you don't have to take out your wallet, unless you park in the parking lot, which can be expensive. [laughter] sen. sanders: that is a civilized health care system. i am proud i have introduced the major medicare for all legislation, we have 16 cosponsors. poll after poll shows that the majority of americans support medicare for all. when we talk about our current dysfunctional health-care system, i want people to know -- people say, how can you afford health care for all? how many americans know that we are spending twice as much per person on health care as do the people of any other country? twice as much, about $11,000 per person, canada is half that. why is that? the answer is obvious. what is the function of the health care system?
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it is to make enormous profit for the insurance industry and pharmaceutical industry. in terms of the drug companies, who are probably the most greedy entities in this country right now, they are charging us the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. last year, top 10 drug companies made $69 billion in profits. if you are a senior citizen in iowa or a senior citizen in vermont or anyplace else in this country and you are cutting your pills in half because you can't afford the medicine, or you are one in five americans that cannot fill prescriptions that doctors write, understand that as president, we will take on the drug companies, we will cut prescription drug costs in half. [applause] sen. sanders: you got me going on that issue but you probably have some other questions.
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lauren: i have one that is kind of related, not to be a bummer. i think some democrats and republicans alike are concerned about how you might get the budget passed for a lot of these basic ideas, how do you get the budget passed with a republican-controlled senate? sen. sanders: that is a great question. look, i am a different kind of candidate. my history and politics is different from many other people -- in fact, everybody else, to be honest. [laughter] [applause] sen. sanders: this is what i believe, and it is kind of a radical idea, but this is what i believe. i believe and have always believed that real change, real change never comes from the top down, it doesn't come from the senate or house or president of the united states. real change always comes from the bottom up, when millions of people stand up and look around them and say that the status quo is unacceptable, we are going to
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change. that is the history of the labor movement, it is the history of the civil rights movement, it is the history of the women's movement, it is the history of the gay movement, a history of the environmental movement, and many other movements. it is when millions of people finally say it is unacceptable, women will have the right to vote, african-americans have the right to vote and not exist in a segregated society, gay people can marry whoever they want regardless of their gender. when people begin to stand up and fight for those human rights, change takes place. to answer your question, as the president, i would do things a little bit differently than other presidents.
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it is not just the agenda i would be fighting for. it is that i would be going to the american people, coming back here to iowa and saying to the people of iowa, we have got to raise the minimum wage to a living wage, you want to do it, and -- i hope this is not the case and we can change this in the senate -- but you have senators not prepared to do that. i need your help to raise the wage. i need your help to guarantee health care to all people, i need your help to take on the fossil fuel industry so we can transform our energy system and combat climate change. [applause] sen. sanders: in other words -- i know i have talked to republicans, passed major legislation working with republicans, but we have to change the dynamics of american politics today. that means we need an unprecedented grassroots
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movement that demands government represents all of us and not just the 1%. the way you bring about change as president is go to the people and demand they stand up and fight for the ideas they actually believe in. [applause] simeon: you mentioned in 2016 you want states like michigan and pennsylvania in the primary -- sen. sanders: not pennsylvania. simeon: michigan, and hillary clinton lost the general election. a lot of folks think what contributed to the loss were things like sexism, trump's appeal to xenophobia, racism, scapegoating other folks in our society. do you think there is an argument to be made that that type of voter, the voter, the animosity of racism or stoking
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fear of immigration, that appeals to them, is there an argument to be made to that type of voter, and if so, what is it? sen. sanders: it is an excellent question. no question that some of the people who voted for trump are sexist, absolutely, are racist, xenophobes, homophobes. but i believe there are a lot of people who are not, and a lot of people who voted for obama ended up voting for trump. let me say something that is controversial, more tweets will go out, that i think that for a too long, the democratic party has ignored the pain that working-class people, white and black and latino and asian american and native american, are experiencing. [applause]
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sen. sanders: as i said earlier, trump comes along. you are unhappy with the status quo, you are working guy and your job went to china, you are making $9 an hour. you can't afford to send your kid to college, you can't afford health care or prescription and drugs. will drugs. will donald trump comes along you donald trump comes along and -- donald trump comes along and says i hear you and i'm going to help you, i'm going to do health care for all, i'm going to create all kinds of jobs, i'm going to do all this and all that. and some people voted for him on that basis. so i do not accept that all of trump's supporters are racist or sexist or homophobes. some of them definitely are, but i believe you have a lot of people who are in pain, all right? they are working. i have been to iowa many times and talked to people here who
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make $9 an hour trying to raise a family. you cannot do that. iowa went to trump, by the way. i've talked to people who can't afford their medicine, talks to old people who cannot afford their health care. trump appealed to some of those people. i don't think you're going to get all of them, but i think you can get some of them. stacey: it seems like we've taken a giant step backward on issues of race. what would you do to improve progress on race in america? sen. sanders: i didn't quite hear -- stacey: we've taken a step back on race, what will you do about that? sen. sanders: it is really hard for me to believe i have to say this, but you have a president of the u.s. that is a racist. you can't push that under the rug, he is a racist.
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he was one of the leaders of the so-called birther movement, a disgusting movement trying to delegitimize -- it wasn't that he opposed obama, that is one thing. he was trying to delegitimize the first african-american president we ever had. it was a grotesque thing to do. we have a president who was a racist. let's be clear, trump is not smart enough -- he is not stupid, but he is not smart enough to of come up with this whole political theory himself. it has been around for years. it is the southern strategy, the theory that you blame minorities that don't have a lot of political pull on all the problems. if you're not getting up the ladder, it is their fault. that is what demagogues always do.
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to answer your question, absolutely. what trump's political strategy is to divide us based on the color of our skin, based on where we were born, if we are an immigrant, based on our religion if we are a muslim, based on our sexual orientation, and even based on our gender. that is what he thinks will win him reelection. i have got to tell you, our campaign is doing exactly the opposite. we are bringing people together around a progressive agenda. [applause] stacey: i want to leave some time for you to take questions from the audience. if we can, i want to go rapidfire on these last few questions. sen. sanders: rapid is a relative term. [laughter]
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stacey: if we don't do it quickly, misty will be upset with me and we don't want that. do you believe russia meddled in our elections? sen. sanders: do i believe that? it is a fact. absolutely, of course. stacey: do you believe the u.s. congress should begin the process of impeaching the president? sen. sanders: i believe the house should begin impeachment inquiries, absolutely. at the same time, and this is an important point, while we have to expose trump as somebody who does not believe in being held accountable to the law, on the other hand, we cannot lose sight of the needs of the american people. what we have got to do, and i think democrats in the house -- nancy pelosi does not have an easy job. it is dealing with the issues that working people desperately want to have dealt with while at the same time holding this lawless president accountable.
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[applause] stacey: larry david does a good impersonation of you. how would you grade his performance? sen. sanders: you did not know that i am larry david? [laughter] lauren: i told you. sen. sanders: he is hard to impersonate but i have been trying. [laughter] stacey: the green new deal, do you support it? sen. sanders: absolutely. it is an outline and we have to fill in a lot of details, but here is the issue. the issue is despite the dangerous views of donald trump, the reality is that scientists have made it clear that not only is climate change real, it is already causing devastating problems, it is caused by human activity.
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all of you know that the scientific community has told us, we have left in 12 years to -- less than 12 years to act boldly and transform our energy system away from fossil fuel or else there will be irreparable damage to this country and the entire world. there is no middle ground on this one. no middle ground. we have to be bold, we have to take on the fossil fuel industry. [applause] sen. sanders: iowa has done a commendable job in wind, i think about 35% of your electricity is from wind, and that is good, but we have to do more all over the country. i have seven very beautiful grandchildren, and it is unthinkable that we could leave this planet to future generations in a way that is unhealthy and uninhabitable. this is a moral imperative and
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we have to be extremely bold in taking on the fossil fuel industry. [applause] lauren: there has been a surge of laws that restrict women's reproductive rights, missouri just passed a particularly egregious one. what would you do to protect reproductive autonomy for women? sen. sanders: i will do everything i humanly can. this to me is a fundamental right. it is incomprehensible that you have politicians who think they have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her own body. that is an outrage. [applause] sen. sanders: i will do everything i can from federal legislation to making it very clear -- i was asked recently whether i have a litmus test for
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supreme court nominees and i do. i will never nominate anyone who is not 100% in favor of roe v. wade. [applause] sen. sanders: and as we engage in the struggle in alabama, georgia, missouri, and other states, i want the men to understand this is not just a women's issue, this is an issue that impacts all of us and now is the time for men to stand with women in this important struggle. [applause] stacey: as our volunteers come to the front to help sort of operate the question and answers, mr. senator, you're going to have people who line up in the aisles to ask questions. one of the questions i like to ask all of the folks who come on this show, if you could have a direct line into all of the
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young people in this country and you could give them a piece of advice, what advice would you give to them? what would you say to them? sen. sanders: what i would say to them is that you are far more powerful than the establishment allows you to think you are. if any of your friends say i am busy, i don't want to get involved in politics, tell them that you are tired of hearing them complain about the high cost of college and student debt, that you are tired of hearing them complain about they can afford health care or that they are worried about climate change. tell them to think big and not small. tell them that they can't imagine the kind of world they want to live in, and don't
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believe what is on tv or in the newspapers, that we have to think small. we can think big. health care is a human right, we can do it. we can, in fact, bring countries around the world together to fight climate change. we can end racism and sexism and homophobia. we can do those things, don't think small, think big. and get involved in creating the kind of world we deserve as human beings. [applause] stacey: ladies and gentlemen, senator bernie sanders. [cheering and applause] stacey: we will start here on
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the right. >> i am meredith, and i am an aclu rights for all voter. thank you for already talking about women's reproductive rights. i have a follow-up question. the hyde amendment blocks access to abortion for low income women who can't pay out of pocket. will you commit to abolishing the hyde amendment so that everyone who needs abortion can access one? sen. sanders: yes. that's how i have voted my entire life. your point is well taken. if we believe that woman has the right to control her own body, that means all women, including women who are low income. [applause]
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>> senator sanders, my name is adam. i have a question for you regarding mental health. i lost my best friend to suicide by firearm five years ago. he battled schizophrenia, was an up-and-coming political activist who fell through the cracks. what are your thoughts on mental health and what to do about going forward? sen. sanders: think you very much for raising that issue. we have a terrible mental health crisis in this country. it is terrible. and nobody believes that we now have the capability of addressing it. i will to you a story that took place in my office that i think probably senator has gone the same call. a woman said to my staff, i am terribly worried about what my brother will do to himself or to
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somebody else, but we cannot find the counseling we need. when i talk about a medicare for all single-payer program, we're talking about making mental health counseling and care available to all people who need it without any out-of-pocket expense. [applause] >> hello, i'm a first-generation american citizen. with trump's trade war and economic patriotism becoming mainstream, do you support a trade system where most of the profits don't go to corporations and empower labor as a whole regardless of if you are american or mexican or chinese? sen. sanders: i certainly do. i helped lead the effort against
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nafta. i helped lead the effort against permanent global trade relations with china but your point is well taken. we need a policy not based on tomorrow's tweets, but it has to be competence of and working but it has to be comprehensive and has to be made working closely with other countries. it should not be a race to the bottom. we should not allow american workers to be thrown out on the streets for low wage workers. we need to protect the low income workers of other countries as well. we need to talk about environmental protections, labor protections. i agree with your analysis. we need comprehensive trade overhauls. we need to protect not just the ceos of large corporations who historically have written the
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trade bills, but protect workers in all countries around the world. thank you for that question. [applause] >> thank you. my name is mike and i am a professional environmental and sustainable agricultural advocate. not only is iowa number one in wind, but we are number one in corn, soybeans, eggs, and hogs, but our farmers have lost money the last five years and we are moving into a farm crisis that is just as bad as the 1980's. yet we use industrial agricultural that is destroying our water and soil. how would you address these concerns? [applause] sen. sanders: thank you very much. one of the issues that is just not discussed, just what you talked about, and i come from one of the most rural states in america. in vermont, it is mostly dairy. our dairy farms are getting destroyed. the prices they are getting
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are below the cost of production and we are losing farmers every week. the first thing we have to do is recognize that rural america is in crisis, and farmers are going out of business. secondly, we have to make sure can we talk about agriculture, is that farmers get a fair price, and they will not get a fair price when commodity after commodity, you have a handful of huge companies that are buying their products. they don't really have the competition they should have out there to sell their product. i will appoint an attorney general who knows something about monopolies and will break up the large monopolies. [applause] sen. sanders: and you are right, factory farming is an environmental disaster. and i have seen the pictures about how those animals are treated, i'm sure you are more
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familiar, they are kept locked up, human beings have to treat other living things with at least a minimal amount of respect, and that is not the case right now. [applause] >> i'm sam and my question is about watching the dnc cheat you out of the nomination and then you extend an olive branch was a hard pill to swallow. senator sanders: i'm having a hard time hearing. >> seeing the dnc cheat you out of the nomination and then you extend an olive branch was a hard pill to swallow. why don't you think you can't win off ballot? i'm pretty sure i can spell your name. senator sanders: the question is that i should not run as a democrat? >> yes, and then get cheated out of the nomination.
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i would hate to see you endorse joe biden. [applause] senator sanders: number one, i don't intend to get cheated and number two, i intend to win this thing. [applause] sen. sanders: and one of the things that happened last time where we are making some progress is, last time before the first caucus took place here in iowa, my opponent already had some 500 superdelegates lined up. that doesn't sound too much like democracy to me. that is before the first caucus took place before the first vote was cast in new hampshire. i was down by 500 superdelegates. as a result of a lot of work on the part of people in this room and elsewhere we have changed that rule. not as far as i would want to
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go, but right now, superdelegates will not be voting on the first ballot. that is significant. [applause] sen. sanders: second of all, in states like new york, you had an insane situation, a very undemocratic situation, where if you were an independent, you weren't a democrat or republican and you wanted to vote in the primary, you had to change your registration six months before the primary six months. that has been changed as well, in new york state. so i think we are making progress in making the democratic party more democratic. and we are going to do everything that we can to create a democratic democratic party, and i think in that process, we are going to win this thing with your help. thank you. [applause] >> senator sanders, thanks for being here.
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i want to ask a question that gets at your leadership style. the presidency is an executive job. can you tell me about a situation where you got angry or disagreed with a subordinate and how you handled it? and can you say which avenger is your favorite? senator sanders: no comment on the avengers. i was a mayor for eight years and that is my executive experience. i ran a city of a few hundred million dollars and we had a lot of employees. and my style of leadership is the following. i believe that anybody who has a good idea should get that idea up the totem pole. and very often i tell my staff, look, if you've got 10 ideas and
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nine of them are not good ideas, that's great, but bring them up. and that is one of the reasons, one of the other things we wanted more of is to put workers on the board of directors, because i think workers can have good ideas about how companies can run better. so i am not into top-down leadership. i want to hear what people have to say, and this is a promise i make. that my administration will look like america and all of its diversity, and its age and so forth. but i take a good leader, and i hope that i am, takes the best idea and says, it's not a good idea because i didn't think of it. [applause] >> thank you for coming to iowa, senator.
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in the middle east, israel and palestine is an issue that has been there since 1949 or before. i would like to know what you intend to do if you are president for equanimity in one standard of justice for all in this conflict and what you would do to ensure palestinian human rights are recognized and their absolute right to have the same rights as anybody else anywhere in the world, which is not the case right now. senator sanders: it is interesting that you ask that question. because i think i was one of the first national leaders to say, you know what, i think the united states should have an evenhanded approach toward the middle east. you cannot be 100% pro-israel.
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100% that israel must have the right to exist in peace and security, no debate about that. but we cannot ignore the suffering of the palestinian people. if you think if there is going to be peace in the middle east when unemployment in gaza is 60% or 70%, when people cannot leave the community, you've got another thing coming. states is the wealthiest and most powerful nation on earth. we should use our resources and strength to bring these people together. i should also tell you that the leadership in israel is not the leadership i would like to see. nor is it in the palestinian community. this has gone on for decades
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after decade after decade. the people ofast, the world have got to know that the united states is evenhanded. palestiniansat the with dignity and bring them to the table with the israeli leadership. [applause] >> [indiscernible] senator sanders: [indiscernible] >> we will take this question here and then we will and back here. sanders, my question is about the living minimum wage. approach aexpect to moreinimum living wage than double the federal minimum. checkout.s self
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how do you approach it without the lowest communities losing their jobs? people disagree on the issue, but a number of studies would suggest that does not take place. the other side of the coin is that if somebody is now making , that person makes $15 per hour, that person now has more spending money to go to a restaurant, buy products, that creates more jobs. here is what i think. this is the bottom line. the bottom line is that in the richest country in the history of the world, people should not have to spend 50% of their income on housing. people should be able to afford to buy the food. people should be able to go on a vacation now and then. $15 per hour is not a lot of money, but you've got to have that.
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we are not saying it is $15 per hour tomorrow. we are saying it is a period of four or five years. at the end of the day, if you work full-time in america, you should have at least a minimum level of security. that is my answer. [applause] >> thank you, senator. i would like to ask a question about the mueller report. reportrcentage of that have you personally read and are you looking to read more of that? if you had to cite one thing that provides you the greatest level of concern, what is that? >> as you know, mueller left in doubt the issue of obstruction of justice. he did not say that the president did not obstruct justice. he thought that was something congress should take a look at. that would be the major concern
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and i hope that the congress will do that. that is what the judiciary committee i hope and expect will do as they and as of also indicated, i think the house should begin impeachment inquiries right now. [applause] >> thank you. >> [indiscernible] it, but not read all of i read the essential parts of it, summaries of it. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. senator sanders, thank you so much for making time. i know how crazy busy you are. we appreciate you coming on the show. >> let me just say this. i understand one of your goals is to get young people involved in the political process. i congratulate you because you are doing some of the most important work that can be done. >> thank you. [applause] [cheers and applause]
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>> watch live coverage of the 2020 democratic presidential candidates in iowa on seized man. saturday -- c-span. saturday night, we are with cory booker in iowa city. democraticday, presidential candidates at the iowa to my credit party hall of fame celebration in cedar rapids. pete buttigieg, kirsten gillibrand, amy klobuchar,, let harris, beto o'rourke, and elizabeth warren.
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tv on c-span2. now, senator mazie hirono of hawaii talks about the current confirmation process to select a judge for a federal courts he and its impact on women's reproductive rights and the current health care law. she spoke at this year's convention of the american constitution society for law and policy. this is about two hours. [applause]

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