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strengthening it in the months and years to come. we do not just need more investment from china, want to do more to attract investors from the golf. -- gulf. we will introduce a visa waiver system to make it easier for companies to come here and do business. this will be up and running in the new year. doing something to drive up that investment. that sir michael newagreed to generate a investment organization as part of trade investment. majors from an investment. these projects will not just mean new jobs in london. they will mean it across the country. the first deal is just days away
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with regeneration in places like liverpool. afford, ant we can economy where everyone can take part and is equipped for the future, based on enterprise at home and abroad, that is how we build something better. by doing this, we need not look at the global race with fear, but with confidence that britain can come through stronger and, with the right decisions, our children can look forward to a better future. london is thehat great innovator and has led the way for centuries. can support innovation and creativity and leave the world for generations to come. thank you. [applause]
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>> you can watch david cameron live on wednesday when he addresses members of the house of commons during question time. that is live on c-span-two at 7:00 a.m. eastern. there is another chance to watch it on c-span. >> if you are a middle or high school student, the c-span competition wants to know what is the most important issue that congress should address next year. make a 5-7 minute video and you could win $5,000 with $100,000 in total prizes. info at student >> there are some serious .cholars and women's study
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levin. first ladies continues tomorrow night with a look at the life and legacy of lady bird johnson. that, a conversation with the former first lady's daughter. she shared some of the personal memories of her mother. >> your mom is a bigger than life character to a lot of people who have written about her. when they do rankings of first ladies, she is in the first five or 10 in terms of influence. can you tell me what she was like as a mom? >> mother was so organized. she did not show a lot of emotion. that was so unlike my father.
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my father was always on. she was a calming influence to all of us. she was my best friend. we had a special relationship, so i would say, i'm telling you this, not as my mother but as my best friend. when your mother, and i am an expert now that i have three almost perfect daughter's, a mother has to say "eat your spinach." you need to go to bed and clean your room. where is a best friend, you can say, i am so madly in love with joe. next week, when it's no longer joe, the best friend doesn't say, wait a minute, you tell me you were in love with him. now you think that hank is the man of your life. it is those kind of things that allow us to have that special relationship with my mother. that was a very important factor in my life, to have somebody
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that i could talk to. someone who was full of love and not necessarily about what you should be doing all the time. i think mother gave daddy so much grounding. he knew always that she was going to tell him what she really thought. she was going to be able to be his eyes and ears. she would help him with what other people thought. he was not isolated. he got every kind of opinion. she was going to tell him when he was wrong, not publicly, but privately. she thought he should do something different or how she felt about it.
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she would often wait for him to ask her. he thought she was the smartest person that he ever knew, regardless of male or female. she had the best judgment. he would tell us that all the time. your mother has the best judgment. talk to your mother about that. i thought she had pretty good judgment. but she was not perfect. she had too much puritan ethic. you must be working all the time. she always had a desk full of letters. a bag, even to her dying day, a big tote bag that would be full of male and projects, things to do. she had an assistant, and one of her job was to get the bag back and go through it and see what she had written on it. then she had to get the bag back to her. she was always feeling like, i
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must be doing things. so sometimes in the white house, i would say, mother i'm going to kidnap you. we are going to this exhibit at the national gallery. we will go out for lunch somewhere. because a lot of people do not invite you out to lunch for fun. they invite you to come to a luncheon where they're going to raise money. they invite you to come to a democratic dinner or whatever. it is a working dinner for you. just to be able to go out and order what you want to eat.
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to go to a museum. i would do that. the truth of the matters that i think she did it because she thought she was doing something for me. she could justify leaving her desk because she was doing something with lynda. lynda wants to go to the art gallery. i will go and it is something for her. of course, i would justify doing it by the fact that it was -- i was getting mother out of the house. i was giving her some time to do something for fun. she was always so -- she always had work to do. she was a wonderfully fun person to be around. >> did that change when she became first lady? >> oh no. that probably gave me more if they need to get her out. we like being together. we enjoyed the company. my father once said, your mother never gossip.
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i would laugh and listen to what he said. i knew that she did not talk gossip, but she did not mind hearing it sometimes. he just thought that she was perfect. i did too. i thought she was a pretty wonderful person. except that she did not play enough. that would be about my only criticism of my mother. >> she was obviously the wife of a politician. you are the wife of a politician. >> i swore i would never marry anybody in politics because i did not want my life invaded. i had other plans. then a married chuck 45 years ago and he decided to go into politics. we had two children. there we are. now we have three children. >> would did you learn about your mom? was your style in politics similar to hers? was a different or the same?
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>> i asked mother and i said what advice would you give me to be a good political wife? what did you do for daddy? she said she went around thanking everybody. i think that is true. there is a lot of that. there are a lot of people that were good to check. a lot of people that needed to have that connection. they knew they could call me and i would get a message to chuck. they knew that i was aware of how much they were doing. mother did a lot of the same. she kept up with a lot of his friends. he was a wonderful friend though, daddy was. he had so many friends and he loved to call them and talk to them. democrats or republicans. mother spent a lot of time
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feeding all those people. on the senate days, particularly, there were a lot of bachelors. either they never married or their wives were back home. i remember one time a man came over because he was going to a white tie event and he needed someone to fix this type for him. -- his tie for him. mother helped him get dressed. daddy would bring lots of people home. mother offered that house with a lot of friendship and she made a lot of friends and would bring them into his life. the speaker was also interested
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in history just like mother was. mother and the speaker would go off to see some old house in virginia on the weekends. daddy would sometimes go grudgingly along. he wanted to be of the speaker and the speaker wanted to be a mother. it all worked out. i learned a lot about what to do in politics from my mother. i was raised with it. i knew when she walked into a room and introduced herself to everybody, she did not necessarily stand back in a corner and wait. she went out and establish that friendship on behalf of her husband.
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i hope in the future that you can be a very helpful person. that is what mother did for daddy. particularly in things like the lady bird special. >> talk about the lady bird special. it seems like a unique jumping off my. do you go out on any of those? >> i did. our parents told us they really needed us to help them win this election. you and i know that they didn't really need us. but i think people like the family members. if they could not get daddy and they couldn't get mother, maybe at least they could get lynda or lucy. we took turns. one weekend lucy would go, the next weekend i would go. in the 1964 campaign, we both went to half the states. i went to half the states and lucy went to half the states. i went from virginia,
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alexandria, to south carolina. lucy went from south carolina to new orleans. we took turns. we were both in school. i could only take off so much and she can only take off so much. it was a fascinating experience. >> from your mom's perspective, what was your role in the lady bird special? >> i think she enjoyed it. daddy love to go out and speak to people. mother was a little more regal. she loved the south. she had grown up and spent a lot
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of time in alabama. her paternal family were from alabama. so she had lots and lots of cousins. she would go there in the summer. her mother died when she was five. her mother sister would take her to alabama to visit cousins in the summer. mother did not want these out to think that we did not want their votes. just because we knew that there were a lot of people who did not like the civil rights bill for instance. she hoped that she could appeal to them to recognize that the
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time is coming and change had to be made. we were moving forward. there were also a lot of african-americans who were there and we wanted to reassure them. there were a lot of people who love the south like she did. first she very formally called members of the senate, the state where she was going, and the governors, and asked him to ride on the train. i do not want to come into your state without talking to you about it. she was not going to be invading. she was coming down to talk to them. that she did. we ran into some people that didn't like us. they were very vocal. we heard the threats that they
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were going to blow to train up. they ran a car through before hours. if it were on the track, they would block the sidecar. and not get us. there were threats all along the way. it was a wonderful success and mother would stand on the back of the train like she had seen harry truman do, and she would tell them how proud and how happy she was to be there. she hoped that they would vote for her husband. he cared about them and there were many causes that we all shared. she was the daughter of the south. it was wonderful. it was wonderful for me to see the bravery, not just of mother, but a lot of the other people who got on the train with her.
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they were risking their political lives, even if it were not their physical lives, they were risking their political lives to associate with lyndon johnson and lady bird in full -- lady bird johnson. some of their constituents were not in favor of the full rights bills that had been passed. some of the things that daddy was supporting. they love mother. i asked one person, your father how did he feel about you riding on the train? you have a senator from a southern state. she said, oh my daddy loves your mama so much. he does not care. i just thought, those people do not get enough attention to. when you look at the people who are willing to ride on the
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train, having said that, when i became a first lady of virginia, a lieutenant governor told me that his governor sent him out to greet mother. the governor was not ready to go himself. but he wanted to be hospitable. when we came to his capital, he came out to greet us and he said, if i had not done that i would not have been elected governor myself. because he felt that he would have been poached by people in his own democratic party. this way, there were some who were more liberal than he was. it was an interesting revelation to me. hearing the story in the 1980s
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from someone who was there in the 1960s. >> you talk about your special bond with your mother. that trip must've meant a lot. >> he did. you would go to a stop, and there would be people who had signed up and down. there were a lot of things that were not nice. but there were a lot of wonderful people who would be there cheering. mother was always calm and she would let them all scream and do then she would say, you have had your say, now let me have mine. i think her gentlelady -- gentility took them back a little bit.
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they did not know they wanted to be seen as these evil people. sometimes they would let her be. i rose to her defense. fortunately i did not say too many bad things. >> what i first did she make of having some semblance of a normal life in the white house? >> mother always told us that this is just for a little while. you are not important, it is the job that is important. i had read about how when the romans would come back from winning a great battle and they had their triumphal march, they had a slave who was on the back of the chariot who said, "remember you are mortal." because sometimes when all those
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people were cheering, people would really begin to think that they were immortal. it wasn't the president who was important. you as an individual were not important. she would always say, don't do anything to you do not want to see on the front page of the new york times. that was something that was hard to do. that was limiting because there are lots of things that young people do. it is just part of the times. >> did you ever have a time
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where she said, now lynda? >> i was very shy. still am, believe it or not. i was studious and bookish and boring. luci was the exciting one. she got more press until i had the wedding. i had a wonderful wedding. that's a lot of press. i did not get my parents into much trouble. >> at the beginning of your time in the white house, a difficult time for the nation with the assassination and then at the end, vietnam, did you see
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anything, especially to the end, protesters were outside the white house, you must've heard some of that? did that have an impact on your mother? >> mother was a very even keel person. daddy had his highs and lows. mother did not cry. she didn't shout or scream. that was not my mother. i know she was affected by it. i know that it hurt her very much to hear people saying those things. i was pregnant and then i had a baby. my husband was in vietnam. nobody wanted the war to be over more than i did. more than daddy did. he was trying to find a way. we thought we had it in the cease-fire talks. but then for reasons that you know, they got in touch with the south vietnamese and said you will get a better deal under nixon. it was very hard to hear people shouting outside our window and saying, "hey, hey, how many did you kill today?"
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it was hard on daddy and it was hard on mother. she did everything she could to give daddy some piece and solace and to be there by his side. she was very supportive of his march 31 speech. we hoped that when people could focus not on daddy, they could then be willing to come to the peace table. sometimes these things get so focused on individuals, for instance, you look at the release of the prisoners that the iranians held on until reagan took his hand off the bible.
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they were not going to let jimmy carter have that success. it was personalized. sometimes in politics that happens. it is not just between democrats and republicans. it is international too. sadly that happened to us. we try. daddy was willing to make a lot of old decisions that he felt were right for the country. even if it was not be best for the democratic party. or even if it meant he personally would suffer from it in popularity. but he thought it was the best thing for the country.
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and he did -- i tried to tell people, you can criticize the choices that somebody makes, but do not question why they did it. let's believe it that they did it with the best of intentions. they were trying to do what they felt was best for the country. it does not matter if it was lyndon johnson or george bush. i think everybody who is president thinks they're trying to do what is right. daddy used to say, it is not hard to do what is right. it is hard to know what is right. we were facing a situation where we had a lot of people on the other side who wanted to bomb -- go into vietnam with the bombs of corrosion the i get rid of -- hiroshima and get rid of the problem.
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i hope that history will talk about a lot of the things that he did and i will hear some of that clapping in my lifetime. >> i think history and historians are constantly reassessing your father. there was published something about the presidency. one of the newsmagazines, daddy was in the top four with the two roosevelt's and i believe wilson, i cannot remember. >> just a couple of more questions.
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just as people have reassessed your father's presidency, your mother does rank very high on historian polls, why do you think it is? >> she recognized like teddy roosevelt it is a bully pulpit. there were things she cared about. she cared about head start. she was cognizant that there were children who do not get the food they needed and do not get the kind of school and they needed and they needed that head start. because of the poverty in their homes. she wanted to go out and publicize this wonderful program. she also grew up surrounded by nature and she knew what the natural beauty could do for your
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soul and spirit. that kind of thing. she wanted to introduce us all to what we could do to make our own surroundings look better with planting and to clean up our junkyard and to the wonderful, wonderful national parks that we have it that people come from all over the world to see. she was a publicist for some of these inks. she cared about them and her heart. she always been interested and what came to be known as beautification. she carried that on until her death. the wildflower center here. she was probably most valuable as a counselor to my father. something that you do not get credit for. she knew that he needed somebody he could talk to, who would tell him the truth, or how they saw it.
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so biden did not need or want something from him. daddy would say why is it that everybody is always looking for something for me to do. that is true when you are in that job. people are coming to you even your staff with a project that they think or they want to be the person who brings him in the information from such and such. mother, she did not have a bone in that fight. daddy was one she cared about. she offered him the solace that allowed him to be able to go out to do great things like civil rights bill and like medicare and all of the education bills. she was his strength. i am so glad she was there. but she had her own interests. that was important.
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daddy promoted her, too. sometimes she would hold back and say i should probably be here with you. he would say, no, you have two degrees from the university of texas, you can do anything. he was a promoter of women. >> the last question or two. those reminisces that were taken place as it happened are invaluable to historians. what was it that made her do things like that? did she have an idle board the future? did she know that we are living in the moment that was important in american history? whatever the presence of mind? >> i came to the white house and i was at
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the university of texas would assassination took place. she say you need to keep a diary. is a good discipline. they have people in mental institutions to do that. [laughter] it is a stabilizing saying. i did in fact the but not spirit. mine is november 15, studied latin for two hours, had a date, washed my hair. mine is so boring. every once in a while i have something interesting. mother, she would collect the newspapers from an event to help remind her. she would write notes to herself as she was going along. in the olden days and i use that term like she's to use it in that way.
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people had date books and you wrote and they're what you were going to do. she would go back and write what happened in her data book. back in the 1930's and in 1940's, she will go back to the data book and it was same, the senate ladies lunch, mrs. roosevelt talked about or she would -- tell about what she wore and the other people who were there. every once a while she would say, i met lady astor. i said, you did? she had put in her date book from 1948 or 1952 or whenever it was. she was a very disciplined person. she knew those were special things even if nobody else would
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cherish it home and she would cherish those words to look back. she knew things were going by so fast that if she did not prevent down, she would not remember. she taped her thoughts. she would have a little sign on the door, do not come in, i am busy or go away. she did not want to be interrupted when she was doing her taping. she kept a lot of nodes along the way to be able to do it. she knew today might be very busy. tomorrow, she could talk and to her machine as she called it about what happened today. sadly, she did not do the lady bird special the customer so many days that she cannot --
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special, there was so many days that she cannot find the time. >> i promise this the last question. is there something you want people to know about term that they would not think of? she had in this image but this is how she really was. or a final story that he remember about her that you think people would want to hear? they could be in the white house it could be in the white house or anything at all. >> no. i cannot think of any particular thing about mother. she was very well read.
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growing up, she said, her first boyfriend, her he rose -- heroes were some of the -- and that seemed a very exciting to her. she lived through books. she did not have a lot of intellectual stimulation accepted through books. she continued that through the white house. one funny thing is she loved to watch "gunsmoke." when they had stated dinners, the staff would tape it for her. that was the first time i had ever heard of being able to take a television show. i do not know how they did it. you are talking about 1966 and 1967 before tivo or any other taping programs came up.
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she loved that. one of the ironic things -- they all laughed about it. daddy would say, here is my competition. >> lynda, thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> good luck.
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