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activities. and can fund anonymous reporting systems. tip lines to help people report to the proper authorities someone who they think may pose a threat to the school community. >> so this will be a federal initiative with federal money? >> yes, the house bill will authorize $50 million a year. which is not a lot and could help so many districts with the training programs. >> so who will lead the efforts? what government entity will be doing the work? >> the department of justice not the department of education will oversee the grants. a lot of the training would be undertaken by local groups. sandy hook promise founded by parents in 2012. they do training around the country to helpen communities prevent gun violence and it involves training with mental
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health professionals who can be involved and working with the grant programs. they do a lot of work in this area and there are a lot of community groups that can help. >> it would create a coordinated reporting system. a lot was made about parkland, florida, teachers, neighbors being worried about this shooter there. what would this do, how would a coordinate the reporting system work? >> this part of the bill which has bipartisan support, it does address concerns from a republican lawmakers in particular after the parkland shoot that not enough was done to share information about the parkland shooting nikolas cruz based on his behavior at school. that is not an uncontroversial position, the broward county school district didn't see gaps or mistakes on how they handled
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nikolas cruz. there's a broad desire for schools and law enforcement to work together to identify potential threats early and to help crisis intervention teams work with those students and get them the mental health and other supports they need. >> talking about school safety. parents and students dial in at 202-748-000. and educators, and all others 202-748-0001 the how does this legislation compare to what the senate is thinking about doing? >> it is roughly similar. how much federal aide is going to be available and providing $100 million a year instead of the $50 million. one key detail, it would allow grants to go to physical
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infrastructure improvements like surveillance cameras and door locking systems. so a lot of the things that parents think about when they think about security measures. it is important to point out that the infrastructure improvements for school safety can be very expensive. estimates run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars for an individual school. depending on the type. and security provisions that might be popular with the public might not work for a particular school depending if it has a campus lay outlike marjory stoneman douglas or locate in a sin sin gal building. >> so what afrts are being made at state levels to, at the state level to deal with the nation's schoolss and how they are going to try to make them staff to
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thwart guns in the school. >> in the state of florida, through a new law that governor rick scott signed. a result of a lot of compromise and i think rick scott might not have signed the bill under other circumstances but given the pressure thrown on him by parents and family of the parkland vik tips a parkland victims and others, i think he felt he had to sign it. it raises the age limit to purchase firearms and allows districts to arm school employees and give them training in firearms. that's a controversial position, something that donald trump talked about and said he supports. districts would not be mandated to do it. they would have the omption to arm or not. that is interesting to see how it plays out in florida. and additional money for mental health services and provide more
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police officers at florida's schools. >> as we go to our viewers this morning. i want to show you this stop school violence act that the house passed, earlier in year. the question for all of you is, is this a good first step? do you think that congress should do more, and if so, what? what else would you like to see congress do, and states do to keep schools safe? that is the kconversation this morning. let's go to harold who is a parent, who is on the parent student line in east a alton, illinois, and good morning to you, harold. >> good morning. yeah, i disagree. i don't think that the answer is putting more guns in our schools. i think that the security guy that was there, he got a bum rap, because he hid behind the wall. i think that it is human instinct that you either fight or flight and at that moment, he had to flight instead of the
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fight, and that can come with any of us. that is our human instinct. i had an idea that maybe we could send dogs in like they do on the cop show that chase after a guy. train them to go after the guy with the gun. i have a english mastiff that would be awesome for that job. we could train the dogs and have two security guys that are actually trained that are young guys that are probably going to be able to help. send the dog in with the vest on, and have him tackle the thing and the kids would love it. >> okay. harold, let's just take the first part of the comment, and he disagrees with having the guns in schools, and does this stop school violence act put the guns in the schools? >> no, two main things to know about the bills in that respect. no additional gun control in the bills, which even though the bills have a lot of the bipartisan support, the democrats don't like it.
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they have said that the bills are nice for what they are, but they don't go far enough. and the other thing to note is that there is visions in both bills that explicitly are bar the grant funds in them to use them to arm people in schools, and train them in firearms, and again, it is taking both of the positions into account about the guns in schools. i would point out, also, that the association around the country that represents the school police officers does not support educator, and school employees in general being armed. i think that too many things can go wrong to put it bluntly. and also, it is important to keep in mind that there are several states that allow school staff and some districts under certain circumstances to be armed, and so this is not a new idea. >> to new york with tyrone. >> caller: yes. hello. good morning. i think that the law enforcement is put in a difficult situation, because the young man did not actually break the law in
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florida. he didn't do anything that warranted them to actually lock him up. because if we don't have a system when the child is showing this dangerous potential to kill or to say that he wanted to kill kids in school that we don't have nothing to snatch him up and put him in to a program to actually deal with that ainge er that the person have, and if we put them out of the school, and wait for them to do something illegal to lock them up, and we don't know that it is going to es calate to this type of reaction whether the kid is going to come back to shoot up the school. if we don't deal with talking to each other, and in dealingt with it, because i worked for the school safety for like 17 years, we have to know what is coming in conjunction with working with each other, and different aspects of working with the students that we will see and we recognize that the challenge is not aware of the situations that
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the child has -- >> okay. i will leave it there. anthony. >> well, the caller is touching on a good point. the republicans have made the argument in public that based on what they say are his actions when he was at marjory stillman douglas, they believe that nikolas cruz should have had an arrest record and referred directly to the law enforcement, and therefore possible to keep him from buying weapons. now, that is again a controversial position, and lot of people don't agree with it. and a lot of what they are citing is not officially confirmed by the district. i think that there is a broad desire to improve the communication between the law enforcement and school officials, and others to spot potential threats. there is a study done over the past several decades about the school shooting incidents, and they looked at 37 incidents, and found that in 31 of them, the shooter told at least one person
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of their intentions, and so obviously, when you have situations like that, the people look back and they say, why wasn't more done to alert the proper authorities? so there is room for schools and law are enforcement and others to work together to try and get these students the help they need and to step in and defuse potential crises. >> caller: hello. i think that the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about is the second amendment, and it has outlive ared the use. the unintended consequences of arming the citizenry in order to overthrow the radical government is absurd, because it would require the citizenry to be armed with all sorts of incredibly dangerous weapons. i think that the second amendment needs to be repealed. >> okay. greg in warren, ohio. hi, greg.
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>> caller: hello. how's it going? i believe that you could have, and what is happening is -- >> greg, you have to listen through the phone now, greg, and not through the tv. listen through the phone. go ahead. >> caller: okay. i'm sorry. what i have is something that i put on youtube called don't bully nobody by greg are ory jo and people look at that, because a lot of times the kids are being bullied and lot of times they say they heard these voice s telling them to do these things, and just like a spiritual type thing going on. >> greg, let's take up that point of bullying, because there have been education initiatives to deal with the bullying in schools, and where does that stand? >> well, at the federal level, i this think stop school violence act, and although a lot of the
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attention around it has been preventing school shootings and school violence, part of the idea is to catch these things early, and the caller indicated that a lot of times the student s are feeling isolated inle school when they are being bullied, and i think that, that can lead to a lot of trouble and a lot of warning signs that people sometimes miss. so these bills do help to spur the conversation and i know that the first lady melania trump is planning to meet with the executives from the social media companies to discuss the issue as well. and nikolas cruz's activity on the social media platforms such as youtube that the caller said, which is also leading to a tip to the fbi which was not followed up on. so it is a difficult issue to deal with in a comprehensive way. but as you say, there are
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various initiatives inside and outside of government to try to address the issue. >> we will go clover, wisconsin, and bob is watching there. bob, question or comment? >> caller: comment. i'm a veteran, ma'am. i'm all for guns in the school. no law has stopped a killing. no president has stopped a killing. no walkout is going to stop a killing. we arm our courthouses. we arm our government buildings, and we arm our airplane, and our children are important. i am retired military and in the sense if a teacher is properly trained like we were, they will save lives, and it is not the gun's fault and i am tired of hearing that it is about the weapon. like everybody says, the mental condition of the person, and he could be bullied. look at how young students don't talk to each other like we did as a kid. we were very open to each other and nowadays, stick their nose,
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and take them off of all of the drugs, and my boy was called adf, and whatever you call it. no he was active. and we got him out and off of those drugs, and he became violent, so take the kids off of the drug, and give them more mental help in schools. and we had gun safety in schools, and why can't they do that? i am all for the guns in the schools. thank you very, very much. >> we will hear from mark next who is in pennsylvania. mark, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i want to touch on what the caller touched on, because that is my issue, too. my son was put on an antipsychotic med, and it made him worse. i did research that 90% of the shooters were prescribed these medications, and as a direct correlation to the that, and suicide rates have gone up, and in the 1990s that is when all of the medications came into fad
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when they were prescribing them like candy for children, and these medications are not for children and psychiatrists say they can't diagnose the mental disorders until they are adults, so why are they prescribing them no the children. and if they would look at them more carefully and the school shootings would drop dramatically. i feel that they have trouble, and they go to the psychiatrists for bullying and then they are prescribed the drugs, and then we have a school shooting. what you say? >> and so we have a task force led by secretary of education betsy devoeshgs and one of the things that the task force could look at is the types of drugs that the callers are talking about on the task force and the task force could look at many things, including the impact of violent video games and

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