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tv   Book Party for Shall We Wake the President  CSPAN  November 11, 2016 11:15pm-12:01am EST

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disaster. [inaudible conversations] thanks for coming. [inaudible] thank you. i did lot of work.
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[inaudible] cnn was calling me today class mother was the flooding is in louisiana. in. >> that is crazy. and those that go way forever? >> i adrienne after 20 years
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and. >> ids seen the movie die-hard? he thinks he can negotiate with the terrorist. vote in hillary clinton and
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donald trump. but at one point and he says hoodie thank you are? hillary clinton? the shockingly that is effective battle they she has driven a car in 30 years but with that governmental credibility especially if there is a fear they said don't get her involved with donald trump. [inaudible]
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[inaudible] because but he was talking about parts for of the movie and. >> [inaudible conversations] [inaudible]
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and his did then is the first conversation that i had. and we have seen that but in all reality. >> and those older couples
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and with that american flag day hill grandma and grandpa. [laughter] >> but thanks for coming. i look forward to hearing from you.
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[laughter] >> but one of my oldest friends was uh detail person . where did being you can only -- >> but tomorrow i want to talk. >> here? >> the get the name. [inaudible]
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[inaudible] >> the walter cronkite made himself. so those are some of those details. >> right. >> the assault. >> but i do remember been
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the mba graphic novel landmine nine year-old read the entire graphic novel. i had the picture of him. [inaudible]
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>> but what was he reading? spinet can hillary clinton. >> okay. [laughter] >> i am the hillary clinton fan. there are some great people out here. thank-you. also to arafat audience should'' -- so lineup performed what to say one but then after that was a disastrous choice and then
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to measure. >> there is certainly that but some people are better at handling that in which campaign would be better. >> but how could they? to have that more dedicated of an impact but i was heartened by how many product -- much progress that we've made been even
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today. [inaudible] my grandmother came to america in their use to be the list that was prepared in then died nine days later [inaudible]
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>> but i could expect to save 38 or 40? >> if you want to see the full population steady. [inaudible] i cannot explain it but around the world there is of blast of different cities
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the. [inaudible conversations] >> but is carved up. but it has been done so well. [inaudible conversations] . .
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and everything that we are supposed to watch and admire in a presidential individual candidate, a president himself. he is really one of the most brilliant individuals, charming moral great dad.
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please tell us about the book and we will do a little q&a. thank you so much wrote you for coming in giuliana for hosting. giuliana is right we have known each other for two decades. we used to be in the same party circuit in d.c. in the 90s before she became the super party hostess that she is now and i remember in the 1990s we knew each other mainly from his party at and she was working for senator ashcroft and i heard senator ashcroft had positions available so i center my resume. i center facts because we didn't have e-mail yet. she called mammals to mediate after she said something to the effect of that i may paraphrase holy you have a ph.d. in based on that reaction i got the job and started working there and
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ended up in the bush administration and it was that combination of having a ph.d. but also working in politics that led me to write this book. while i was in the bush administration i was there during 9/11 at the department of labor. i was at the white house during katrina. i worked on the plan that the bush administrator worked on throughout the 2000 ended up being deployed by the obama administration 2000 nights i have a lot of experience at how government deals with but also prepares for disasters but i also have a lot of knowledge about presidential history that i was an intellectual and also my book about pop culture. i have a good friend who said well write about disasters come you know a lot about disasters. i did that intend to marry with the presidential history book so i came up with a concept for the book and decided to look back in
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time and see what presidents have done over time to deal with disasters. i found out something very interesting that it was not always the case that we expected the president should have to deal with disasters. it wasn't seen as their constitutional role or responsibility and moreover because of non-modern medication or the lack of modern communication president's money and -- not even know about disasters when they happened so i tell the story in the book of 1811 and earthquake in missouri and president madison is in the white house and doesn't know about it for six weeks. [laughter] i pick about it in a couple of years i was watching and there was an earthquake in washington d.c. over here. some of you probably remember this earthquake did i happen to be on twitter. i don't want to say i might all the time but i guess maybe i am and i knew within 30 seconds and earthquake happened in my hometown of washington d.c. so
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it struck me how different the immediacy of communications today. even once you start to have a development of communications technology that move information around a little bit faster to the telegraph he still won't have the sense of the president needs to get involved in everything. i tell the story in 18,892,000 people died in this terrible flood and it was the largest loss of life on american soil until 9/11. president harrison benjamin harrison gets the telegraphic message from the elders of jonestown and they set a terrible disasters happening please help us. president harrison responds with a telegraph back to them in the message says and i'm paraphrasing but you can get the exact text of the book which is by the way for sale in the front. the message says that affect
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them sorry about your tragedy. up to the governor to deal with it. imagine today if the president had said something in response, the denunciation, the lawsuits in the protest. would be outrageous so just a very different time. president harrison to be fair does do something in response to this disaster. he sends a 300-dollar personal $7500 in today's dollars. a significant donation but still he's not giving up billions of federal dollars. he's giving out his own personal money and just starting the red cross. that is harrison's approach and some of you might say he was a republican. the democrats would have been different that no, grover cleveland who was the president who both preceded and succeeded harris and dylan timon presidential history that happened he is president during
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a drought in texas. congress appropriated funds to deal with this drought and cleveland vetoes the funding. why? the right to veto message and veto messages were frowned upon in the bush years. in the veto message he says it is not the constitutional role the federal government to be dealing with these disasters. again a very different mindset. over the course of 20 century one i've suggested which is modern instantaneous communication but also the growth of government. in 1918 there's another disaster, the 1918 flu and this is a terrible tragedy. 675,000 americans died. woodrow wilson as is the white house in response to the tragedy wilson does nothing. , really nothing.
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more americans died in world war ii when there were 160,000 americans died in the military during this and almost six times as many are dying as a result of this flu and would resurrection a strangely silent. one thing he does is he considers having his personal doctor thinking about stocking the transports taking american servicemen across to europe and spreading the disease amongst themselves in the process but also spreading across europe. it was called the spanish flu but it actually started almost certainly in america. these transports are spreading the disease and he is asked to stop the many meets with the head of the army at the time and ahead of the army said that's not possible. it's essential to our operations in europe. one month before hostilities ended in world war i and wilson goes along with this and does not stop the troop transport the
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more americans with a ghastly death and more europeans do. here we have a sense that presidential noninvolvement is a turbo thing. in 1927 it's really the watermark the time when we start to see this change. the terrible mississippi flood, between 250,000 americans died and president coolidge is in the white house. he does have this perception of limited government and federal government shouldn't be too involved in the worst the constitutional precedent of getting involved with these also under outside pressure and in fact will rogers the comedian tell this joke that coolidge's low response to this disaster is in hopes of most of the people would die in the meantime so we won't have to do anything about it. not exactly quite as sharp as her late -- today but not that this farmer -- dissembler from a
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joke that jay leno made about the katrina disaster bush is finally sending troops to the gulf because he found out there's oil in louisiana. so again the same kind of sense of the joke although i think it has a sharper comedy in them on air. there's an outside pressure and there's pressure in the form of the secretary of commerce herbert hoover who is nicknamed the secretary of commerce and the undersecretary of anything else because he liked to get in everybody's business so much so that coolidge found uber annoying. in fact he said he has given me nothing but unsolicited advice for six years, all of it bad. so you have pressure on the white house plus an annoying cabinet secretary chomping at the bit to get involved and he said go down to the gulf. he sent them down to the mississippi area and by all accounts who were does a great job. he helps direct resources and he brings in rescuers and get people rescue. he helps develop supply lines
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and get supplies to people and hoover was actually well practiced in this. he helps bring food to the starving people in europe in the aftermath of world war i and he was known as the master of emergency. it is a guy who really knew how to deal with death or any tasteless reputation in the sense of being a national hero to the white house himself. he was elected in 1922 plays coolidge and he becomes a president that we all know how the story ends because he doesn't get to keep that great reputation. he is not known as the master room urgency today. that is known as the great depression and not to do anything about it in part because franklin delano roosevelt who succeeds and does a brilliant job of making sure that all of this is tagged on hoover said. when he becomes president he doesn't discuss matters with hoover. hoover reached out to him and said can we talk about various policy initiatives and work together and from november to
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march and in the transition roosevelt will have nothing to do with hoover. when he comes into office roosevelt is not only active in terms of building the response to the depression in the form of the new deal please also good in communicating and he has this famous fireside chat which he thinks about carefully. doesn't just go on willy-nilly. erc went on the radio two or three times a year in these fireside chats of peak carefully marshaled the source. he was careful about how he gave the talk. he even used a special paper that did russell when he switched pages so it wouldn't make noise. roosevelt as a model about how to communicate with people my time of the disaster and giving the appropriate tools for appearance of upper sides over
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an expansion of federal responsibilities in response to two crises. one is the great depression and the other's world war ii. the end of world war ii we have a federal government who is much more ball than many other things and a view of what the president should the doing changes the 1950s we have the beginning of what are known as disaster declarations. interestingly i found the number of presidential declarations has steadily increased over time making you wonder if there's a political -- it's got much more dangerous would have also found a number of presidential disaster declaration spiked in years to coincide with the summer olympics or some other event in terms of the presidential election. you see a spike of disaster declarations. in 1969 during hurricane camille richard nixon their public and white house says he sent the
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secretary down by the sense of vice president spiro agnew down to go down report. it agnew comes back and he says one of the problems of hurricane camille is people couldn't gauge how big a problem the hurricane was. they didn't know whether to shelter in place or evacuate. nixon directs the bureaucracy to look into this and asked how we today know that matthew is a category 3 storm. i will just mention two other quickly. equity think based on your studies and what you have to what you have looked at love with either prototypical best response. >> let me answer by mentioning the 1992 hurricane andrew. george h.w. bush is in the white
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house and has a slow response. now it's seen as the presidential response ability and if a president doesn't involve that's a problem. presidential noninvolvement is not an option anymore but his son president george w. bush becomes president after the 2000 election and he takes his lesson from his father. in his first term the gets great credit from the media for being good at dealing with whether born disasters in effect they are cynical reporters who write that he's only going to deal with these whether born disasters because of the lessons from his father and that's why he's so locust. obviously we saw after his re-election in 2005 katrina happened in it no longer has the reputation in dealing with whether born disasters. one thing that he did that didn't work out so well was the flyover. he was flying back to washington and they have veered around new orleans and he looks down and that infamous picture taken of him was really a disastrous
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picture from a pr perspective. >> i never understood why comes didn't they want the plane to land in to see everything? >> it's a good question. the problem with the president going to a disaster area if they can take up resources that a first responder should be using on dealing with the disaster so when the president comes to an area that everyone in this area knows if you have set up a security and you motorcade including running the motorcades are the first responders, the police and the fired all those people are supposed to be dealing with the disasters so there are good reasons for a president not to visit but in flying over it appears he didn't care about it and he he was in is air force one are protected in all these people were suffering below. my book i have a couple here you can show the picture in 1968 lyndon johnson is dealing with the riots in the aftermath of martin luther king's
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assassination and johnson is in marine one flying over the riot-torn areas of washington d.c.. there's a picture taken of him at that moment that looks eerily like bush flying over the katrina airport. though lesson is, that's less than one but the other lesson is sometimes if they send for president to go to disaster areas sometimes it makes sense not to go to a disaster area but you should never ever be photographed in a flyover. >> how do you prepare for the disaster that is unforeseeable, the unknown known? i know you have spoken about seeing it advance but it's quite possible it may be in for c-net how do you back? >> you may not know if the crisis is going to be but they are going to look at the crisis.
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in facing a crisis they can bring certain skills match of houston preparations and preparation is really important. one thing about the government as we were much better at dealing with disasters after we had tabletop exercises. one thing i would say is that the federal officials show up in a disaster area and handout is no scars to other business official favortie fail. they don't don't know they are as responsibilities and they don't know what people are supposed to do. it's not a good way to work things but if you have tabletop exercises and tabletop exercises and this is a this is the biggest that the senior officials participate in them they differ them to their deputies that they actually participate in them than they are much better at dealing with them. tell the story in the book of what happened in the 2009 -- i told gipra. work on preparing the bush influence a plan. in 2009 the swine flu outbreak happened.
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already the function -- the plan is for some other type of disaster. scavetta all hazards approach to disaster and prepare for it there when it comes you have to use the same building blocks even if the disasters of a different nature. if what happened in 2009 and not a single senior official at obama's hhs has been confirmed. smarts or 2009 and the national denomination blew up so they are behind with the nominations and not a single senior official is there. what they did is they took the avian flu plan that we had prepared and they adapted it to the swine flu and they did a good job with it. there is someone like richard besser who is the head of the cdc chief medical officer at the cdc did such a good job that he parlayed it into a job as chief medical correspondent and does a good job there too but he had prepared, not that it is i was
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in the government and i knew he had tabletop exercises. there was one federal official that did a terrible job and that was joe biden. he had legislative experience but not executive experience preview on tv and said exactly what you are not supposed to say for an epidemic which is i don't think anyone should go in enclosed spaces right now which was transportation system, airlines and robert gibbs had to walk it back. the press secretary at the wacha back and not very subtly. he just walked it back it was like he was protecting joe. he just threw joe under the bus and joe can take it but i thought about it vice president biden had real government experience in the legislative side. the executive site is different and you need to prepare from the executive perspective. >> the twitter in the modern age how does that change disasters because with the flyover now the president pleaded what i'm
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seeing in what i expect we will see out of obama the tweets about matthew in the next few days or you can feel that come and from hillary and from trump. send us a check president obama's tour guid at 60 million followers. i do don't want to peg it to a specific number but it matters in part the great resource but it matters that form the prison uses the poor. one of things i talked about book is the need to have some kind of bipartisanship or neutrality when it comes to dealing with disasters through the flu doesn't care if you are republican or demo that in the white house. i think whoever's president needs to maintain a certain level of credibility in to watch mobile partisanship. twitter is a good tool but you have to make sure to use that twitter account wisely not just
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for disaster. >> thank you to juleanna. satellites take the time is everybody should buy a book. by a book for your friends. they are great christmas gifts. >> thank you to my wife tammy you could not be here tonight. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations]
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was incorruptible, single-minded in his counseling calm considering the pressure is on him. it was tremendous, the streets of washington were lined with thousands of folks who waited for the casket to be removed and brought by the honor guard down pennsylvania avenue and then
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across the bridge into virginia. i think what i've read is it's one of the largest turnouts for a parade in the city. >> a beautiful building and from the moment it opened it was already too small for what is about to face. constructed to to handle a half a million people a year it ended up handling in 1907 alone 1,200,000 people. >> rand dies is trying to limit
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the court to a specific role, one that is defined by the constitution network in which all governments operate in which limits or should limit any one branch from exercising power beyond its prescribed --. >> the problem with the phrase all lives matter is that in many ways it's an assumption that many of us begin with. the point of saying black lives matter is to really highlight the extent to which black lives have not mattered in the united states and most recently concerning the issue with police abuse and violence. i think the reluctance to embrace that really shows the depth and the lack of understanding about what the conditions of african-americans in this country actually is and
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to some extent i think we can understand that. we live in a deeply segregated country where white people have no idea what black people's lives are like in this country. it's not the same necessarily for african-americans who see the lives of white people on television all the time and it does speak to an additional problem which is there is a more general issue with the absence of seeing poor white people and ordinary white people and so there are a whole number of ways that our lives are distorted in this country. talking about black lives matter is really about ringing attention to the conditions of lack people which i think for most americans are shrouded and they have absolutely no understanding of.
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radio talkshow host mark levin provides a list of books that he deems required reading. here are some of those he recommends.
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>> i tell a story about being out campaigning and the senate and now i was campaigning for congress. no one in tennessee have on their own put their name in the ballot and won the race.
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i was the first woman to lead it in their own right. we have had four women who had followed a spouse and i was in a county that had a little of what we call a little café. her plate is one made in three veggies. we call them meet and threes. i've gone in and in this county they didn't have many women that served in elective office so i was passing out my campaign material and i went over to this gentleman you could tell that the now farming and handed him my card and i said hi times date senator oren and i'm running for congress. i sure would appreciate having your vote. he looked at me and he said little lady, what qualifies you to expect to give away you are
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going to get the vote when you're called little lady. what qualifies you for the u.s. house of representatives? i thought, well you know i've been a room mother, a room mother chairman and a girl scout cookie mom so i think i can probably handle the u.s. house of representatives that handled those jobs. bear in mind he didn't want to talk about that as a state senator and just about a four-year fight to keep a state income tax-free. that didn't go so i threw that at him. those jobs of being the three or a choir director in the room mother and grandmother chairman and the girls got cookie mom are art to life skills that do prepare you for working with people and working with diverse groups of people. and being elbow to help lead groups and entities and
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organizations, transferable skills. people will undersell a woman when it comes to the job that she can do. >> did that impress them? >> e i think it did because he called me back over the table and he motioned to me like this and he looked at me and he said little lady if he won this thing what are we going to call you, congress girl, congress lady pics i said you know what congressman seems to be just fine. he kind of chuckled and i hope i got his vote.


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