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we are all things to all people. >> now joining us here is archivist beth lock. your partner mentioned chester, gore. >> hhe's on display right here s a chicago defender exhibit. we have quite a bit about him because he was integral to the newspaper. he drew the cartoon for them almost 50 years and was nominated the pulitzer prize great. he joined the paper and became an editorial cartoonist in 1954. this is the first cartoon he drew for the chicago defender in a very famous important case.
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this was published june 12, 1954 and 8 designated the civil rights social justice issues would be what he would bring to the chicago defenders. they had this idea that they were going to be a newspaper that would help african-americans, civil rights and voting, the victory in world war ii and civil rights and you can see that in his cartoons for the supreme court decision marks the beginning of that. another important cartoon he did this was done in september 1955. you can see hanging from the tree it's a little bit of graphic that he wanted to shock his readers you have reverend george lee, lamar smith and nfl, three black men murdered in the south during a campaign of lynching in mississippi and so
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you can see them hanging from the tree and then coming up behind them you have civil rights activists. the doctor tr and ho how were te parts of his papers he was working in the sout south on the emmett till case and invited a journalist to stay at his house and he would advise him on people they should interview. this was published the week before the trial started. >> i know this is in the description because this immediately went through my head fobut the last line says cheste, gore was never over the pulitzer prize for his work. >> he was nominated place and we actually have both of the proposals he put forth to have
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to pulitzer prize but the pulitzer prize but unfortunately and unfavorably he lost both times. >> what is the importance of the chicago defender to pluck journalism and chicago itself? >> it was a local paper and what's important about the chicago tribune is the national printing and local printing. local you can see here it was important because they had local news and what was happening all over the city. it was something businesses could go in and have their names printed, the local ladies club and organizations they were working with and then you have the national edition that came out once a week and that's the paper that was smuggled down into the south in the civil rights era on the unofficial
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contract the publishers had. >> did to defend or promote these items? >> absolutely. we pulled over six different collections and each of them contain writers. he encouraged local authors so that is where gwendolyn brooks was published for the first time wawho was the first african-american woman to win the prize. you can see he was the editor and this is a column that contributes to say you have people writing short stories,
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long stories and it became like a club. he encouraged this idea of inclusiveness so it felt like it was your paper you were writing to bed at a national audience. he left the chicago defender and went to work at the house he worked at in 1939. >> is that located close to where we are now? >> at the beaumont north. >> i wanted to ask about this 2008 cover of the defender. you have all of the copies here on display? >> microfilm or online because everyone loves to look at them. we've been talking about the the chicago defender's early history with civil rights and publishing and the local and national
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writers. here's something recent in terms of historical context we have barack obama in 2008 as it appears hthecompany was he was d of illinois -- senator of illinois before he went there. he talks about the defender and the important work they do so we have the transcript. >> why do you have excerpts from dreams from my father in the display case? >> people come to an archive and think it is all dusty old mix real. a big collection is reference books you can read here and this is a few of them from the collection that it speaks not only to the chicago defender and what he did as a senator that his lifelong work.
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>> how did you get here? >> it was a long trip. i'm from minnesota but i came down from chicago because it is the second largest city museums and historical centers. then my background and monitors the civil rights of african-americans and couldn't fall in love with the south side of chicago history. >> one thing you can show us from the collection? >> absolutely. >> architects of a number of projects they are working on committee put together exhibits like the chicago defender and researcher for scanned documents at one of my favorites is processing for the collections come in. we can go to somebody's house and pick them up.
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>> complains bitterly old to us by individuals themselves and sometimes it is family members that drop them off for organizations that care about the work we do and want to be part of the collection. this collection i'm working on processing are th the ravens pas in this collection is unusual because it is broken into parts. we have the manuscript collection including selma alabama which is a speech in 1965 after visiting alabama shortly after martin luther king junior's march from selma to montgomery so she went there and spoke to the locals and then came back to chicago and shared what she learned that there so this first processed. what ibut as unprocessed as the photograph collection that she and her family and husband left
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us. >> who are the reverend eddie" wide with? >> they were pastors on the south side located over on stony island and 90th. the church is still going. she was a meatcutting packer in the 1940s and this was just one of her causes. she was a cofounder of an organization in this photograph you can see she was a speaker and cofounder of the first coalition that had their first convention in chicago in 1974 and over 3,000 women attended and spoke for a few days and she's here in this photograph giving the opening address. >> when do you see yourself
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finishing her papers? >> as soon as possible. we would like to have her photograph collection fully processed. it starts in the 1940s and goes all the way up to the early thousands. there's the work she did to help pass the equal rights amendment. >> once again if people want to come and see the collections here at the library hell do they do with? >> just walk in the front door and go to your left. it's open seven days a week you can view the exhibit then. if you want to view an archival collection, five days a week monday through thursday and saturday. the only thing you need is a photo id or a library card.
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>> looking at fathering is trying to capture the complexity of human beings and as a way
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into character and we tend to think this is a good guy or a bad guy bu but a lot of these mn who have been president have different parts. many of them could do amazing things and others could be disappointing. >> eight eastern and pacific on q-and-a. >> booktv spoke to oscar goodman in las vegas this year. once known as the mouthpiece for the mob he explains his journey from the defense attorney to the mayor of las vegas. >> how did you become a lawyer for the mob? >> by accident. i came to las vegas with my
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beautiful wife in 1964 and basically i would take anything go with walk in the door. i had a motto where there is a fee, there is a remedy. we couldn't use it for rent. they had to be for pleasure. so we went to a place called the charcoal room. we would take whatever was left over and sit down and play a blackjack. i would stand behind her and do all the talking like we are conversing with each other. one day he called me up at my office and said you know, i'm in financial difficulty.
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difficulty. if yowould you file bankruptcy r me. >> i didn't know bankruptcy from a speed bump at the time but i did learn how to fill out the petition and did it by hand. i did it in the church to $250, so i was happy. a couple weeks later a phone call comes in and it's from a reputed mobster. his brother had been arrested and nothing changes over the years. they called oscar and that's how it all started. i can try the case a thousand times and i would lose but i got lucky and taiwan and from that point on whenever somebody got arrested who was connected with the alleged mob it was called oscar.
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>> i didn't know how to pick a jury and i went to the clerk the morning of the trial and i said i don't want a jury because this is the legal case for the judge to decide. i got so nervous i walked down the stairs of the federal courthouse and i parked and said we are all set to pick the jury so they went out to deliberate after all the evidence was in and my clients brother two blocks away from the federal courthouse says is editor of the jury takes a long time? we walk in and the jury has a verdict.
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you can imagine how i felt. i think they felt so sorry for me they came back. >> after the first case what was some of the crazier cases that you were given? >> i became an expert because it went into effect and i was involved in the first one at the miami international airport the wiretap was set up of those that were bookmakers and they would get the line information, the sports information. they were all indicted and i was hired to represent them. i asked for severance. they were not mentioned in my client's name. finally, after two weeks they said go home, take your client with you. you're right i should give you severance because they haven't
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mentioned the name. the other lawyer said go ahead and help us with this case. so, i stayed there and they were all found guilty but the word went out and oscar won the case. it had nothing to do with winning the case but after that on december 12, 1970, 26 cities were raided and they were mobsters and i was hired because i had more than one case. i had all of my papers strewn around the office. one of the clients to look at this. don't bother me, i'm working. he said you're going to want to see this. i said okay. i picked up two different authorizations and it has to be authorized by the attorney general himself or the assistant attorney general's and even
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though it's the same name, they are different. so they took the deposition in my law office and he really was smug smoking his pipe he finally said okay you're right we didn't authorize this properly. so therefore i was the expert for the united states. >> how familiar were you with the mob before coming to the united states? >> i had no idea. i was raised in a very conservative environment. the only way i stepped out of bounds was some lowlife came around the school grounds and if you gave them a dime you picked the three baseball players and
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got a dollar back or something like that. >> is there any case that came to you -- >> [inaudible] you have to understand it's hard work. when i became the mayor people said this has to be so tough. i said compared to what i did to make a living making criminal law this is cakewalk. my client would go away forever and as a mayor if i made a mistake although isolated and to make many i would put it back on the agenda so instead of sweating all that long and having a went to bed, i slept like a baby. >> do you think in the midst of defending the mobsters that --
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>> they were being targeted by the federal government. >> in my opinion -- and i don't know, today i haven't really been practicing law. for a lot of different reasons i'm not actively in the courtroom. i felt that many of the federal prosecutors -- the state wasn't that bad but the federal prosecutors played the game with the ends justified the means. they wanted my clients so bad that they would do anything to get them and i can't think of a case where everybody is saying he's always saying the same thing where i didn't catch an fbi agent and a lie. i rarely had a client takes the witness stand unless they insisted they wanted to do it because i could talk a lot better than they could.
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i do this as a profession. so i think the government overstepped its bounds in the way that i defend my case is making sure they adhere to the constitution and the prohibition against unreasonable searches and seizures and do not engage in prosecutorial misconduct. in just about every case they violated those. >> an example of a case that you thought was particularly egregious. >> talking about all these big shots there was a fellow that was a big shot and i'm going to give you his name because he became a friend of mine. his name was manny baker and he was an african-american fellow that was a stereotypical. if you trade to characterize him
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he was back but he was a decent person aside from the allegations of care when dealing. he went down to the airport to meet a fellow coming in and was supposed to be getting money to this fellow. he had $162,000 with him sitting by the curb in a cadillac and he was ultimately arrested. we had a hearing in federal court where there were three law-enforcement people bought bt into the courtroom and i invoked the exclusionary rule that they don't hear each other's testimony so the first one gets on the stand and raises his hand and says i swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth so help me god. that is a pretty serious about.

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