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bolinas don't want big cars. they want to others, protecting by become live in urban areas and bike and walk. let's go to teresa in atlanta in the 46-60 age bracket. >> caller: good morning. i have a comment regarding the presidential elections right now. it ties in for me in my age group with the millennials and so forth. the american people need too understand and remember how goos the clintons were to us back in my time when president bill clinton was elected asdent president. and now president obama has done a great job in presenting what needs to be in order to help the biggest class of people in this country with java middle-class. a lot of people are move -- losing sight of that. i think putting hillary clinton
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back into the white house now as the leader would help with our social security and everything else because they did a lot of things to help us. they brought in a lot ofht programs that a lot of people are thinking that isn't going to work anymore. of course, if we choose the republican candidate got it's not going to work anymore because they are looking out for each other. the 1%. of middle-class is steadily falling behind. i appreciate what this gentleman is saying that you have as your guest today but i think we can get our country back to where we want it to be and what it needs to be if we elect someone like hillary clinton for president. >> host: paul taylor? >> guest: it's not going to make any partisan comment. i did watch the debate last night and the '90s came up several times and hillary clinton i think was on the
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defensive on each of mass incarceration, perhaps on welfare reform, entrée packs and the rest. bernie sanders i think was very effective in raising those issues to a democratic audience. i think hillary was effective same look i really want to talk about the future but if you want to talk about the 1990s we did create 23 million jobs and thene middle-class in the '90s was still expanding. and i think the economic record supports the. the middle-class has been shrinking since about the year 2000.n the whole issue of income and wealth inequality was a global phenomena voters were in the lead among the advanced economic questions around the world in seeing this phenomena point out. it is really no that candidates in both parties are talking about. they have different solutions to it but it is continued, and ithe think part of the reason why the public is so frustrated with politics as usual, the sense that the standard of living has
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flatlined, wages are stagnant, we are not moving forward. somehow the idea the american dream always gets better for the next generation. to go back to a generation analysis. this generation of young adults of millennials ra downwardly mobile generation. every conventional measure you u would use, median wealth, beating income, employment, unemployment, et cetera, you caa for this generation versus older adults back window the age of millennials are now and they are doing less well. this doesn't comport with our idea of the american dream which is the idea of perpetual forward motion.kly, anoth and, frankly, there's another part of this that is veryna disturbing which is the notion of intergenerational mobility. again the american dream is the american dream is you can do from all over the world. you start at the bottom, work hard, have the right values, he go as far and assess azure talent will take you and we are
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a classless society. that's really statistically not the case but if you start at the bottom of the lower end of the socioeconomic scale you have avt better chance of advancing to the middle of the top. so a more accurate statement of the american dream in terms of intergenerational mobility is choose your parents wisely. the wealthy they are theyo wealthier you are likely to be. that's not a story we like telling ourselves and to think part of the frustration, the anger with politics today stems from that story. we are having a debate between republicans and democrats about what we have to do, what we need to do about it. >> host: 25 minutes left with our guest paul taylor. >> caller: good i want to make my comment about people asking why black people vote for democrats.
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when johnson signed the civil rights -- he was a prophet. u he said he was giving out republicans. so black people have to choose just ask the white people choose. what's wrong with america today? the republican party founded the tea party. they are talking about jobs, jobs. [inaudible] where are the jobs in your state? everybody means if you keep reading the fields, you will have no you will not have a right, an obligation to create job in your state. don't blame obama. all these christian evangelical people in america, if they can't stand obama, take back this country. when he took it they should not be living in america.
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i heard marco rubio say that the president don't have no class. what kind of environment he was lucky to grow up in an america. and i say, underline the word -- [inaudible] and citizen by birth. ted cruz should not be running in america. i would like to put what the constitution says about that. put it up, let everybody see. citizen by birth. the word that and birth, this is what we play out. we are tired. if he was running as a democrats -- [inaudible] >> host: thank you. mr. taylor? >> guest: let me start with what the caller to start with,t
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which is noting correctly that for at least 50 years, really more, the democratic party has enjoyed overwhelming support from the african-american community in this country, 85, 95% of the vote. and reflect on if this pattern goes forward in a multiracimultiraci al and multicultural society, the challenge is a republican party faces. african-americans today are about 13% of the u.s. population and that has been fairly constant for the last half century. what's changed in the last half-century is african-americans are no longer the largest minority group. that is not hispanic. we are now in a world where the nonwhite vote will be close to the majority by the middle of this century. republicans could be competitive in a world where they got the majority of white votes. very few black vote so they could still be competitive in campaigns going forward. but in 2012 mitt romney got just
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17% of the nonwhite vote. obama got more than 70% of the hispanic vote. he got more than 70% of the asian-american vote. these are rising shares of the american electorate. the republican party itself did an autopsy after the 2012 race with many leading republicans thought they were going to winey because her number, between 2008-2012 we have an opponent rates at eight, nine, topped off at 10% of the economy was still in very, very bad shape. and yet obama bond of winning and winning easily because electorate had changed and have become more nonwhite and more dominated by young adults. the republican party has not solved this many people thought after the 2012 election that they needed to moderate their positions on immigration reform so they
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wouldn't be seen as the enemy of these new immigrant groups. that didn't happen legislatively and if you listen to the rhetoric, led by donald trump and the building of the wall and the characterization of mexican-americans as criminals and rapists, et cetera, in the view that muslims need to be kept out of this country, you have a party that is once again portraying itself as unwelcoming to a mode diverse country. that may work in low turnout elections, but again it seems to me that remains a long-term. problem for the republican party. that's frankly why the debate within the republican party has gotten so difficult. it's frankly i think it's one of the reasons that that you last presidential nominees for the republican party just in the last week, mitt romney and johna mccain, have come out and said no, we cannot as a party and as a country about donald trump to be our standard bearer. the republican party is really the one that is facing these
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demographic challenges. we will see how it plays out in the coming months but this is a long-term challenge. at some point it needs to address aspect passage from the book about hydro partisanship towards the beginning to arguably the most powerful force l force in the 21st century american politics, republicans democrats >> hostforce.e. >> guest: i'm not the first to observe this has been a very, very rancorous debate, that discourse has gotten bolder but beyond the bubble dirty it's very, very rancorous. i'm old enough to remember a
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political era where there was such a political creature as a conservative democrat and ali liberal republican. not only can't find those on capitol hill, you find fewer and fewer of those within the body politic. it is because the demographic changes in the country have made our political tribes more identity-based.ti as i was discussing earlier, increasingly if the people are likely to be democrats are a certain kind and they are younger and more likely to be nonwhite. republicans older and more likely to be conservative, more likely to be religious, democrats more likely to be secular. so it does take on a tribal aspect of you throw in a news media that increasingly has a red truth and a bluetooth and each side appeals to the version of reality that each tribe wants to see and that is reinforced. you have in these presidential debates they seem to be talking
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past each other. they are talking to different segment of america. we won't get to the polls and we'll stay on those two conversations are joined. >> host: spike, welcome to the program.m. 41- >> caller: thank you. i'd like to take the opportunity to disagree completely with mr. taylor. if i had to guess what side of the equation mr. taylor is on, i would say he is on the left side. now, if we have to go back to basics here, you have the left and you have the right. what are the definitions of the left? the left our people that take. the people are the right of the people that give. so what are you going to do? you cannot continue to take, take, take. it is not a country of free stuff. is it a capital coach because i spent a capitalist country and it's been a capitalist country
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from the beginning. that is why people came to to begin with, to pursue the happiness. there's no guarantee they will get the happiness and they kneww that when they came here. and they know that now. there's no guarantee. the guarantee is only for free stuff that's why people are coming across the border. they come across the border to get free stuff. >> guest: well, let's say, let the react to do things you saidi one, we are a democratic capitalist is country, absolutely. the public supports the notion of a free enterprise system,m, free markets, capitalist system, entrepreneurial system. you see support for that across the board. my own sense is that that is what attracts people from all over the world and asked for 200 plus years. the notion that this is an
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opportunity, and not when will society. dividing the world by givers and takers and suggesting that democrats are one and republicans are the other, that was something you will recall four years ago that mitt romney was caught on tape saying, and it didn't go over well because it certainly offended people who consider themselves democrats. it seems to me that is not an accurate characterization of how the country is divided. it's divided but a lot of ideological views, but a lot of policy views and certainly by changing demographics. but in my view, dividing people by givers and takers mistakes the reality. >> host: dd wants to know the difference between cuban and mexican south american hispanic voting tendencies. s >> guest: very interesting.
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of our hispanic population, about 57 million people are hispanics by far the largest group are mexican origin, about 60% are making origin but i can only on the order of magnitude of about 3% are cuban origin. hispanics overwhelmingly have been voting democratic for decades now. the one exception to that rule has been cuban americans who came, many of them came as political refugees in gaza after castro took over 60 years ago. and were very republican. that was the political profile of the cuban-american community based in miami and south florida for decades. even that has begun to change and the second generation cuban americans are less conservative and less republican than the first generation. to stay in florida a minute, the profile of the latino population in that state is changing in very interesting ways with the cuban-american population is no
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longer the largest latino population. p there's been a strong migration in the last few decades of puerto ricans to con people into the puerto rican migration from the island coming to new york and new jersey, pennsylvaniaom area. that was the first wave but a second wife is going into florida, particularly some of the cities in the middle of florida. overwhelmingly democratic, cuba and the exception, unless an exception then the used to be. >> host: market, florida, fort lauderdale. 61 over. welcome. >> caller: good morning and thank you for this very interesting discussion. sitting on the phone listening to some of the comments from the callers since i got on almost made me forget and change my mind about what i originally called him about. you just had a caller that the gentleman there answered very well who a moment ago talked about givers and takers or
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makers versus takers and the answered them very well. when you are talking about takers and receivers, whatever, i'll focus on that. why they didn't mention is the fact that he was complaining about immigrants coming here to get free stuff. mexican immigrants coming here were not coming to get free stuff. they were coming to work and they were being lured i businesses and corporations that wanted cheap labor that got rid of good old-fashioned american workers, meatpackers which is to be a great way to make a living but they replaced them all with mexicans at super low wages. those people who are working on not coming here for free stuff. the guy that called and was complaining about that. he's worried about is lower costs of things like welfare and food stamp and that kind of thing. what about the corporate welfare that there's so much of in this
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world, or in our country i should say?rld -- or the bailouts, wall street bailouts, t.a.r.p. and that sort of thing. so it's amazing how they complained about a few dollars going to poor people to help them live, all christian should want people to be able to live, have a small living, but it's okay to throw billions and billions and billions of dollars at corporations and banks. which for my tone of voice and what i've been talking about you might guess that even though i've been able to retire pretty well off, i lean towardssuppor supporting bernie sanders. >> guest: it's interesting, corporate welfare has been a subject discussed in this presidential campaign and it's probably bernie sanders was taught to it more than anyone else but on the republican side you donald trump and others sang too much crony capitalism.ngs.
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i think this is a concern, again in an era where the middle class is shrinking worst standards of living for most americans have flatlined, where the memory of economic collapse of seven, eight years ago is still fresh and the view that it was wall street that was at the center os this is still out there. it's not surprising to me that these issues are being discussed and perhaps will be addressed. >> host: started calling from brooklyn, new york, 18-29. good morning. >> caller: thank you for having me on. >> host: how old are you? >> caller: i'm 23. what i don't understand is why everyone is so mystified with what's happening to the gop andd how they lost control of their party. when i seen the stats, seeing that the average told supporters
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have only reached the highest level of education, and i was wondering if mr. taylor might comment on how the educational background might have changed and who is voting as a republican, and why is it that the average come supporter has only reached the high schoolol level of education? who are college educated republicans voting for at this time? i mean, as the millennial who is, you know, i'm facing the struggle of paying for college as a transfer student. for me, i think the reason i'm d supporting bernie sanders is because he realizes that the struggle for millennials at this time is an economic one.s he understands that blaming others, blaming immigrants, all of these very basic i guess
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instincts, and that will allow us to get out of this economic place that we are in in the u.s. right now. my question -- i was just going to say what encarta get across i would like to know more about how the educational background has changed in the republican party and if he thinks that might be the issue that the gop: is facing. >> host: are you still in school or are you working now?k? >> caller: i'm still in school but i actually lost a full ridep scholarship and i'm a transfer student and it's been very difficult to get into, took want acquire a nova scotia. i am not in debt like i didn't expect to be posting something we hear a lot about. started, let me ask you, in
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earlier caller basic suggested folks in your age range just want to take things. there's a tweak here from sea of tranquility which ask what is the core goal of the millennial generation, easy to create and innovate or survive by government support? what do you make of those two comments?call >> caller: well, it's not, i think it's a very unfair to say that we are looking for a handout. because the fact is that there are certain set of factors that have made it difficult for us to continue in school, even if we've done well in the past. i no, i personally worked very hard to acquire the scholarship that i received in the beginning, i realized that at this moment the way that the college system is structured in the u.s., it basically is justbs centered on a business model.
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so this is not me looking for any sort of handout. this is just me trying to get an education and trying to understand why the u.s. is happening, why the average voter is not realizing what's really at stake him what the issues are, and not realizing how we are being taken advantage of. w the average american voter is being taken advantage of wheng they are paying more taxes than host people in an upper income bracket post a thank you for calling. there's a lot there, but to her original point about folks and educational levels. she asked why they seem to be going for donald trump or can you elaborate? >> guest: a couple quick points on education level. if you look at the voters who have gone so far for donald trump, it's notable that he has done well across most demographics within the republican party.
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but he skews a little bit old and he skews a little bit lower income and lower education, but that's not to say he isn't also doing well on other groups. if you look more broadly at education and outplays out in terms of people's parts identification, there's one factoid that is in my book. if you look at adults with a graduate degree, to more than just college, some form of graduate degree and have been identified, republican, democrat or independent. democra democrats of something like a 20 percentage advantage of republicans for people with postgraduate degrees. 20 years ago there was no difference. there is something that has happened there among highly educated individuals who go into the professions come to go into the sciences who are now much more comfortable in the democratic party. the democratic party, in terms of its base, if you look at
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education, to put it in masterpiece theater terms, it's a little bit of an upstairs downstairs coalition. it has highly educated peopleir who are part of its core base and it has less educated people, including some of the minority groups. so it's a bit of a mix, but there has been no change at thee upper end time when she talked a lot about debt. >> guest: clearly that is a huge issue for young americans and give is one of the reasons why they are slow again into some of the milestones we ask young adults who are not married in her '20s and early '30sve they want to get married? yes. what's holding you back? i don't have a job. i don't have a terrific i cannot be a good provider and delicate those things lined up in my own life, i'm not ready think aboutd that next step. that plays out and lots of other sorts of behavior. it's a very tough, this is new in the country.
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however back to education i will tell you one more thing about college it as bad as it is kind of average college debt has doubled and more young adults have college debt than was the case. c it is also the case that in the america of 2016 the only thing more expensive than going to college is not going to collegeg if you look at 18-35 year olds who have only a high school degree or maybe some college but didn't get a degree, and if you look at their economic circumstances would you see is what in the holy no generation a growing gap in education. there is more of a distance between millennials with a college degree and millennialsco with a college degree or millennials without than was the case 30 or 40 years ago when you could just get your high school diploma, you could be in line for a good job at general motors or a factory near you. you could have the prospect of lifetime middle-class employment. we all know how the world has changed.
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there are fewer of those sorts of jobs. is more of a premium of getting that degree. unfortunately, our system is burning through these young adults and it's hard for them to get started economically in lifo than 11 last call. good morning to you, joseph. >> caller: i went to college and i studied this in statistics but i never studied anything about millennials, generation x., generation y., traditional. i've read it on my own, but the truth is this is government data and use of stereotyping it. i don't think any other race would like to be stereotyped if you're hispanic or black but you wouldn't want to be stereotyped. i think it's a form of gerrymandering. i mean, i would liken it to the fans tragedy it's a fair criticism and i'm not sure if the great what i will say is the statements i've made are generalizations, it is stupidge
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and not every millennial is likely the portrait that i've described obviously there aree many differences within age groups as they are in cross age groups. however, there is a lot of data and we have a lot of ways to describe these cohorts by the racial characteristics, by the economic circumstances, either core political and social and economic values because we take a lot of service. so it is on that basis that i make some of these generalizations, or fair enough, stereotypes. lendor of creation, for the wonder of life and for the mystery of love. thank you for family and friends and for the love that surrounds us on every side. thank you for your work that demands our best efforts


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